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New Korolowka house mapping project #galicia

Max Heffler
 

I have not had any response to my request for volunteers for this new project. Please consider it. One task should take no more than about 10 minutes:

 

Racheli Kreisberg has been developing an amazing house number mapping project for 15 years. Towns she has worked one include Skala Podoskaya:

 

https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/skalapodol/Skala%20House%20Number%20paper%20published%20in%20Galizianer%20Nov%202010.pdf

 

& Nadworna. We are embarking on a Korolowka (Oliyevo-Koralivka, Ukraine - 13 miles from Skala-Podilska, Ukraine; 12 miles from Melnytsya-Podilska, Ukraine - a number of families moved back and forth - as noted in the index) house mapping project since we have the cadastral and land-owner records and a school student index. We are requesting one or two volunteers for this.

 

On the cadastral map is a listing of 130 plots with surnames filled in for approximately 100 of them. This simple indexing would just create a simple spreadsheet with those house numbers and those surnamed. We have a template and it would likely take about 10 minutes.

 

The next step would be to attempt to connect the student index, which contains student and their parents and a sequence number to a house number from the first index above and adding that house number column and filling it in, where possible.

 

Thanks,

Max Heffler

Houston, TX


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HEFFLER(Ukraine)/TIRAS(Poland)/WASSEMAN(Lithuania)/MOORE(Poland)/ZLOT(Lithuania)
GORENSTEIN(Ukraine)/FLEISCHMAN(Latvia)/GOLDEN(Lithuania)


Re: Research based on address - Kolomyja, Lviv, Zolkiew #galicia

Daniella Alyagon
 

Allow me to clarify

 

I have the address already

 

I am interested in understanding what archival records are relevant for a specific address (for example: mortgage, list of owners, ownership changes…) and where are these records located (which archive)

 

Thank you

 

Daniella Alyagon

11 Rav Ashi St, Tel Aviv 6939545, Israel

alyagon.genealogy@...

 

Researching: ALYAGON (Israel), SHOCHETMAN (Kishinev / Letychev / Derazhnya), AGINSKY (Kishinev / Minsk), FAJNZYLBER (Siennica, Poland / Warsaw, Poland), JELEN (Minsk Mazowiecki, Poland), KIEJZMAN (Garwolin, Poland),  SLIWKA (Garwolin, Poland), MANDELBAUM (Janowiec, Poland / Zwolen, Poland / Kozienice, Poland), CUKIER (Janowiec, Poland), RECHTANT (Kozienice, Poland), FALENBOGEN (Lublin, Poland), ROTENSTREICH (Galicia), SELINGER (Galicia), BITTER (Galicia / Bukowina), HISLER (Galicia / Bukowina ), EIFERMAN (Galicia / Bukowina), FROSTIG (Zolkiew, Galicia / Lviv, Galicia), GRANZBAUER (Zolkiew, Galicia), HERMAN (Zolkiew, Galicia), MESSER (Lviv, Galicia / Vienna, Austria), PROJEKT (Lviv, Galicia), STIERER (Lviv, Galicia), ALTMAN (Lviv, Galicia), FRIEDELS (Lviv, Galicia)

 


Re: Rothenberg family tree #general

rebasolomon
 

My grandchildren are direct descendants of Rabbi Yitzchak Meir Rotenberg/Alter, the first Gerer Rebbe. I have documented my grandchildren’s lineage and I would be interested in seeing your work from Rabbi Meir of Rothenburg to him, the Chiddushei HaRim. Thank you.

Reba Harris Solomon
theShviger@...


Soviet Army Databases #russia #records

Carl Kaplan
 

I found my great-uncle listed in the Yad Vashem database as serving in the Soviet Army, killed in action, shown below. Where can I look for more information about him, based on his service in the Soviet Army? Thanks in advance.

Isaak Kaplan was born in Minsk, Belorussia (USSR) in 1900 to Osher and Feiga. He was a manager and married to Ana. Prior to WWII he lived in Minsk, Belorussia (USSR). During the war he was in the Soviet armed forces.
 
Isaak was killed in military service.
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KAPLAN Minsk, Belarus
EDELSON, EDINBURG Kovno, Lithuania
HOFFERT, BIENSTOCK< BIENENSTOCK Kolbuszowa, Galicia
STEINBERG, KLINGER, WEISSBERG, APPELBERG Bukaczowce, Galicia


Re: Research based on address - Kolomyja, Lviv, Zolkiew #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Daniella,

On  JewishGen in the Poland Section you have the Poland 1929  Business Directory. In some cases the address of the business is mentioned. If your relatives were in business there is fair chance

to find their business address. Here is the link to Kolomiya pages  https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/poland/1929/P1489.pdf

Good luck

Jacob Rosen

Jerusalem


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #poland

Bruce Drake
 

“The Weekday Krinik,” from the Yizkor book of that town in Poland, could probably also be titled “A Day in the Life of a Shtetl” since it resembles so many scenes described in other books. “Dark gray smoke, in the early morning, rising from the houses into the still half-dark sky, announces that in Krinik a new workday has begun.” The streets grow lively as the husbands are dispatched to work and the children to school. Perhaps no one is busier than the wives: “They clean house, do the laundry, mend shirts and clothes. They go to the food store, the baker and butcher…Loaded with baskets and bags, the wives return home to cook lunch. The fire is started in the oven. In cast iron pots they cook meat or dairy lunches.”
Then there is market day. “Jews walk around among the densely placed wagons. They rummage in the sacks, look at the peasants' packs and they haggle. They slap the gentiles' hands, a sign that they have come to an agreement… Jewish butchers buy a cow, calves and sheep. Horse dealers try out the horses. They look at the horses' teeth. Their neighing and the mooing of the cows mix with the shouts of the buyers and sellers… Peasants sit with companions, treating themselves to vodka. They snack on herring and sausage. They talk loudly. With each glass emptied, their voices rise. Their faces are already red, their eyes half closed from drunkenness. Some embrace and kiss. One of them starts humming a melody, and half-drunk voices join in.”


Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


Re: Research based on address - Kolomyja, Lviv, Zolkiew #galicia

Daniella Alyagon
 

I am a member of Gesher Galicia.

 

I have always found comparing the maps fairly problematic.

 

In addition, I am trying to prepare a list of records to be researched based on house numbers / address in addition to vital records.

 

Daniella Alyagon

11 Rav Ashi St, Tel Aviv 6939545, Israel

alyagon.genealogy@...

 

Researching: ALYAGON (Israel), SHOCHETMAN (Kishinev / Letychev / Derazhnya), AGINSKY (Kishinev / Minsk), FAJNZYLBER (Siennica, Poland / Warsaw, Poland), JELEN (Minsk Mazowiecki, Poland), KIEJZMAN (Garwolin, Poland),  SLIWKA (Garwolin, Poland), MANDELBAUM (Janowiec, Poland / Zwolen, Poland / Kozienice, Poland), CUKIER (Janowiec, Poland), RECHTANT (Kozienice, Poland), FALENBOGEN (Lublin, Poland), ROTENSTREICH (Galicia), SELINGER (Galicia), BITTER (Galicia / Bukowina), HISLER (Galicia / Bukowina ), EIFERMAN (Galicia / Bukowina), FROSTIG (Zolkiew, Galicia / Lviv, Galicia), GRANZBAUER (Zolkiew, Galicia), HERMAN (Zolkiew, Galicia), MESSER (Lviv, Galicia / Vienna, Austria), PROJEKT (Lviv, Galicia), STIERER (Lviv, Galicia), ALTMAN (Lviv, Galicia), FRIEDELS (Lviv, Galicia)

 

From: main@... <main@...> On Behalf Of Steven Turner
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Research based on address - Kolomyja, Lviv, Zolkiew #galicia

 

Are you a member of Gesher Galicia? You should check the cadastral maps there of Kolomya and there you can view where a particular house number is compared to a city map. Any questions write info@....

Good luck,
Steven Turner


Re: Need translation for "Gothic" German #translation #poland #warsaw

kesspark@...
 

No it’s probably two. Wife writes in Gothic. Husband writes the other. 

thanks for letting me know!
Rachel


Re: Lithuania SIG Vilnius household registers - 5,000 lines of new data available #lithuania

Russ Maurer
 

I am responding publicly as Amir's questions are of general interest.

Question 2 is simpler, so I'll do that first. To find the batch for a particular record, note the address (street and number). We have posted an alphabetical list of completed addresses with the corresponding batch number. It can be accessed from the VHR home page (https://tinyurl.com/vhr-home), link is towards the bottom of the page. This list will be updated when each new batch is released. For your convenience, I am attaching the current list to this message.

For the first question, I am always happy to assist with understanding household register data. Please email me at vhrproject@.... As general advice, if one is trying to determine if people with the same (or similar) common name are related, it is a good idea to look at every possible source, not just the household registers. For Vilnius in the interwar period, there are passport applications, marriage and death records, and a birth index (the full birth records are still under privacy protection). All but the birth index are already in the ALD.

If you make a qualifying contribution to the VHR project, you can obtain a batch of your choosing in the form of a spreadsheet. You may then be able to discover further information such as the names of other people in the same apartment as your relatives, which can also help in your research. If you are not already familiar with the (free) batch previews document, definitely look at that to find which batches include your surnames (including batches not yet added to the ALD). This link will immediately download the previews document to your computer: https://tinyurl.com/vhr-previews.

Russ Maurer
VHR project coordinator


Re: Research based on address - Kolomyja, Lviv, Zolkiew #galicia

Steven Turner
 

Are you a member of Gesher Galicia? You should check the cadastral maps there of Kolomya and there you can view where a particular house number is compared to a city map. Any questions write info@....

Good luck,
Steven Turner


Re: Need translation for "Gothic" German #translation #poland #warsaw

Reuven Mohr
 

are you sure both letters are written by the same author?
88359 is regular German script. 
88358 is probably what you call 'Gothic' (a term used for special old fashioned print letters).
usually older people would write in older style. If it is the same author, it is weird.

Reuven Mohr


Death records and burial place in Switzerland (maybe Lugano) and France (maybe Paris) 1940~ #france

דוד לחמי
 

I'm looking for death records and\or burial place of two siblings - Moshe and Lea Ginzburg (or Ginsburg).
They were born in Königsberg Germany (now Kaliningrad Russia) in 1913 and 1919 (respectively) and immigrated to Palestine in the 1930~
Moshe w
ent out to fight the Civil War in Spain and there became ill with tuberculosis. He went on to recover in France (probably in Paris) but died there of the disease. Not sure when, I guess around 1937-1940.
Lea
became ill with tuberculosis in Palestine and went to a hospital in Lugano Switzerland, where she died in 1940-41.

David Lahmi
Israel


Re: Salzburg DP camps #austria-czech #holocaust #records

Bernard Flam
 

Hi Israel,
I reply from Paris.
Numerous posts have given the best answer when searching Displaced Persons : you must fill a inquiry on Arolsen web site :
https://arolsen-archives.org/en/search-explore/inquiries/submit-inquiry/
They reply always, but delay could be 2 or 3 months.
Khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives & history of Medem Center -Arbeter Ring (French Bund - Workmen Circle)


Kolomyja house numbers to address #galicia

Daniella Alyagon
 

Is there a list of conversions from house numbers to address for Kolomyja?

attached is a link to an example from Lviv https://www.sbc.org.pl/dlibra/publication/edition/13343?id=13343

thank you,

Daniella Alyagon

11 Rav Ashi St, Tel Aviv 6939545, Israel

alyagon.genealogy@...

 

Researching: ALYAGON (Israel), SHOCHETMAN (Kishinev / Letychev / Derazhnya), AGINSKY (Kishinev / Minsk), FAJNZYLBER (Siennica, Poland / Warsaw, Poland), JELEN (Minsk Mazowiecki, Poland), KIEJZMAN (Garwolin, Poland),  SLIWKA (Garwolin, Poland), MANDELBAUM (Janowiec, Poland / Zwolen, Poland / Kozienice, Poland), CUKIER (Janowiec, Poland), RECHTANT (Kozienice, Poland), FALENBOGEN (Lublin, Poland), ROTENSTREICH (Galicia), SELINGER (Galicia), BITTER (Galicia / Bukowina), HISLER (Galicia / Bukowina ), EIFERMAN (Galicia / Bukowina), FROSTIG (Zolkiew, Galicia / Lviv, Galicia), GRANZBAUER (Zolkiew, Galicia), HERMAN (Zolkiew, Galicia), MESSER (Lviv, Galicia / Vienna, Austria), PROJEKT (Lviv, Galicia), STIERER (Lviv, Galicia), ALTMAN (Lviv, Galicia), FRIEDELS (Lviv, Galicia)


Research based on address - Kolomyja, Lviv, Zolkiew #galicia

Daniella Alyagon
 

I have a list of addresses in Kolomjya \ Lviv \ Zolkiew used by my family.

I am wondering what possible records I can search based on the address in addition to Tabula records and where are these records located. I am starting to plan a research trip to the Lviv area.

Thank you

 

Daniella Alyagon

11 Rav Ashi St, Tel Aviv 6939545, Israel

alyagon.genealogy@...

 

Researching: ALYAGON (Israel), SHOCHETMAN (Kishinev / Letychev / Derazhnya), AGINSKY (Kishinev / Minsk), FAJNZYLBER (Siennica, Poland / Warsaw, Poland), JELEN (Minsk Mazowiecki, Poland), KIEJZMAN (Garwolin, Poland),  SLIWKA (Garwolin, Poland), MANDELBAUM (Janowiec, Poland / Zwolen, Poland / Kozienice, Poland), CUKIER (Janowiec, Poland), RECHTANT (Kozienice, Poland), FALENBOGEN (Lublin, Poland), ROTENSTREICH (Galicia), SELINGER (Galicia), BITTER (Galicia / Bukowina), HISLER (Galicia / Bukowina ), EIFERMAN (Galicia / Bukowina), FROSTIG (Zolkiew, Galicia / Lviv, Galicia), GRANZBAUER (Zolkiew, Galicia), HERMAN (Zolkiew, Galicia), MESSER (Lviv, Galicia / Vienna, Austria), PROJEKT (Lviv, Galicia), STIERER (Lviv, Galicia), ALTMAN (Lviv, Galicia), FRIEDELS (Lviv, Galicia)

 


Holocaust Survivor Sues Oklahoma University to Retain Stolen Nazi Artwork in France #france #usa #holocaust

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

Bergère rentrant des moutons (Shepherdess Bringing in Sheep)”

by French impressionist Camille Pissarro

 

Léone Meyer is suing Oklahoma University (OU) for the painting “Bergère rentrant des moutons (Shepherdess Bringing in Sheep)” by French impressionist Camille Pissarro. Before World War II, Meyer’s family owned the painting. The only survivor of her family due to the Holocaust, had a summons issued to OU wanting to revisit a 2016 settlement in OU and the Musée d'Orsay in Paris agreed to display the art on a rotating basis.  Meyer has expressed concern for the potential damage that could befall the piece during travel between Europe and the U.S.

 

Meyer’s adoptive family was previously in possession of a 19th-century painting, "La Bergere rentrant des moutons," which was removed from France during the war and was eventually possessed by the Weitzenhoffer family, according to the summons documents.

 

Meyers’ adoptive father attempted to reclaim the painting after discovering it had been moved to Switzerland in 1951, but a 1953 decision by a Swiss judge dismissed her father’s attempt to recover the art due to the “five-year statute of limitations” which had elapsed, according to the summons documents. The painting was next spotted in the U.S. in 1956, where it came into the possession of the Weitzenhoffer family and was later donated to OU in 2000.

 

According to the summons documents, Meyers’ legal representatives said OU had not “(carried) out any provenance research” on the painting, which had previously been listed in the Register of Looted Goods.

 

The Washington Conference Principles on Nazi-Confiscated Art of 1998 states “If the pre-War owners of art that is found to have been confiscated by the Nazis and not subsequently restituted, or their heirs, can be identified, steps should be taken expeditiously to achieve a just and fair solution,” though it does not necessitate outright return of the piece.

 

in 2016, the U.S. Congress passed the Holocaust Expropriated Art Recovery Act, which seeks to “ensure that claims to artwork and other property stolen or misappropriated by the Nazis are not unfairly barred by statutes of limitations but are resolved in a just and fair manner.”

 

OU legal representatives argued under the principle of res judicata and collateral estoppel, as well as “international law,” the university was the rightful owner of the painting, according to the 2016 summons documents. The university also argued Meyer “failed to make a claim for breach of contract” and the action was “time-barred under the two-year statute of limitations” in Oklahoma, according to the 2016 summons documents.

 

A hearing in Paris District Court is scheduled for December 8.

 

To read more see: https://tinyurl.com/y2wmsljs

 

Jan Meisels Allen 

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: Jocelyne Dumay from Paris #hungary #france

Family and DNA
 

As David knows, in France/French, "Jocelyn" will be a man, & "Jocelyne" will be a woman, so this cannot be the correct person unfortunately.

Without knowing a husband's (last) name, it might be hard to find her, but there are not too many male Dumays in Paris in the "pages blanches" (https://www.pagesjaunes.fr/pagesblanches). There's a 2004 post on Filae from Jocelyne asking about the Munz name, but it shows a last log-in in 2006. Google has just 1 person with that name often mentioned, a farmer not in Paris but worth a look. Since this is a living person I won't add more details here.

Good luck!

Juliana Berland
Rennes, France

On 11/6/2020 00:52, David Choukroun wrote:
Dear Georges,

can it be her : Jocelyn Dumay (1968-1993)



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FRANCE

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/// Russia/Ukraine: BENIN / BERLAND Czernigow; Romny, Poltava > (Paris>) Chicago AMBURG / BERKOWITZ / EPSTEIN Odessa, Kherson, Poltava > (Paris >) Buffalo NY; Chicago GELBURD / GAYLBURD / GOLDBERG / GILBERT Vinnitsya; Nemyriv; Priluki Staraya; Podolia gub. > Philadelphia; Atlantic City; Milwaukee /// Galicia/Poland/Ukraine: BADER Felsztyn (Skelivka) > Philadelphia BADIAN Komarno? FELDMA(N)N Wolanka / Boryslaw > Philadelphia FREIDENHEIM Stryj, Drohobycz, etc. GERTLER Komarno, Wolanka, Stryj, Drohobycz, etc. WEINER/WIENER ? /// Germany: ADELSDORFER  BÄR / BAER Buttenhausen > mid-W US, esp. near Vandenburgh Co, IN. EPSTEI(N)N Röhrenfurth/Melsungen, Sachsenhausen, Guxhagen > Luxembourg; Amsterdam; MW US, esp. near Vandenburgh Co, IN HAUSSMAN Heidenheim? ISAAK Fellheim? MEYER Hannover > Aurora, IN. MOSES Gotte(rs?n?)heim, Sachsenhausen, Röhrenfurth. ROSENSTEIN Stuttgart; Elberfeld? > Philadelphia, Lancaster, PA.

 


Re: Jocelyne Dumay from Paris #hungary #france

David Choukroun
 

Dear Georges,

can it be her : Jocelyn Dumay (1968-1993)



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Re: SSDI opinions #general

Diane Jacobs
 

Census records were also used to describe a person's age for social security

Diane Jacobs 



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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] SSDI opinions #general

My mother worked as a legal secretary for a lawyer in a small town in Louisiana for a couple of years, right out of high school. This would have been in the mid-1930s. In later years, she recalled the legal problems of people who had no birth registration, which was not unusual among older people in that state signing up for social security. She remembered calling on a few residents of the town who "knew everybody" and having them sign affidavits that so-and-so was born in such-and-such a year. That date would then find its way into Social Security records. Of course, if it was off a bit....

George Friedman
Champaign, IL
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Re: Lithuania SIG Vilnius household registers - 5,000 lines of new data available #lithuania

Amir Gur
 

Thanks sounds good.

Qs:

1.  What's a good process to figure out more on the data we already see on our family?  We got specific questions on the history of our family members.  Questions on some data we're already seeing, if there are ways to clarify it.  And also we got some members we can't find at all. 
Is there a specific person you recommend to ask?  Or place all details on a work-ticket, or just a message on this board?

Our family is mostly have been in Vilnius and small towns around it.  One common the Soly shtetl. 

Our family name in the listing shows most commonly on jewishgen is Gordonovich.  But few variations exist.  One is Gordonowicz which seems like the Polish version.  Other variations include Gordonovitch, Gordonovitz. 
Some variations went further, to an extent it's not clear if they are at all related.  They could be still related since after searching a bit, it seems name-variations are very common.  One such further example is: Gardenvitz

2.  Is there a way to tell which data came from which Batch into the ALD?

Thanks,
Amir Gur (Gordonowicz)

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