Re: Looking for Pesach LANGSAM connection to my LANGSAM branch #galicia #dna #names

Adam Cherson

Dear Moishe,

I appreciate this fine tuning of the analysis.

Since R' Langsam lived circa 1748-1820, and my estimated formation time of FGC56704 is between 715 CE and 952 CE, it is likely that any yDNA descendants of R' Langsam would be in the FGC65704 group, or some as of yet UNKNOWN SUB-GROUP of FGC65704. A terminal reading of FGC65704 would be a strong indicator of a common yDNA ancestor, while a TERMINAL BY80 (and above), impyling a finding of FGC65704(-), would suggest non-descent from R' Langsam. Non-terminal readings of BY80 or above would require additional testing to confirm FGC657074(+) status.

As you say, additional Y700 testing of any confirmed or suspected R' Langsam patriline descendants would be useful in verifying the signature.

For the sake of public awareness I add that using the GENI platform it is theoretically possible to find and then contact current yDNA descendants of any person on the tree (I have not specifically examined the R' Langsam possibilities in this regard). This would be a way for anyone to pursue verification of the signature.

Adam Cherson

Re: Help finding out the given name of my aunt's brother in Argentina #names #latinamerica #austria-czech

Janis and Joe Datz

Have you searched online
They have specific documents for this area I believe.

Janis Datz

This week's Yizkorbook excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #lithuania

Bruce Drake

I suspect that much of what is described in “Jewish Foods in Lithuania,” from the Yizkor book of Lite, could be said about the many other Jewish communities of eastern Europe. This account starts with a celebration of “sours” — beets (borscht), cabbage and sorrel. Yes, there was kreplekh, tzimmes, latkes, a never-ending list of ways to use potatoes which were eaten two or three times a day, herring, and all manner of breads from challah to dark rye. But as one husband answered when his wife asked him if he was satisfied with the food she had prepared, he answered: “Of course, but unless I have even a little bit of sours, I am not a person.”
This thorough account of Jewish foods moves far beyond “sours” to all the foods common to Jewish households, the poor ones and those better off, and some of the descriptions almost amount to recipes.
I have to admit one of my favorites was the passage about herring, which the writer called “a national dish.” “A herring was eaten raw ‘from the barrel’ … tearing off only the outer skin, in certain cases only the laske (scales). Others dipped the potatoes in ljok (the liquid found in the herring barrel) and maintained that this was the ‘true taste.” The herring was also baked, often baked in sweet, sweet-sour, fried, as well as being chopped with onions…” You, no doubt, will find your own favorites.

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD

Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel

Re: Large LEVY family (Simon and Lena arrived NYC ca. 1890) #usa #general

Sam Glaser

My great aunt Jean Glaser married a Louis Levy in New York. Louis was born around 1873.

Sam Glaser
Fairfax, VA

Riga Ghetto Museum saved #russia #latvia #courland

Arlene Beare

I am happy to report that the Riga Ghetto and Latvia Holocaust Museum is saved.


The Riga City Council unanimously supported further development of the Riga Ghetto Museum

Shamir Association

13 NOV 2020 — 

On Thursday, November 12, the Riga City Council unanimously adopted a decision to re-transfer the municipal property in the area between Moscow Street, Turgeneva Street and General Radzina Krastmala for free usage of the charity organization - the association “Shamir”. This will ensure support for activities of the association, including contributing to the preservation of the commemorations of victims of the Holocaust tragedy, as well as the further development of the Riga Ghetto and the Latvian Holocaust Museum.
We are very grateful to all deputies of the Riga Council, to all the supporters and voters, to all friends and visitors, to all who have written, called, and expressed their emotional, informational, and even financial support to us and our activities! Thank you very much!
The question on the next 10 years of existence of the Riga Ghetto and Latvian Holocaust museum was firstly raised in May 2020. It was half of the year of work, worries, and hopes. Thanks to all and especially deputies, the question is finally solved!



Arlene Beare

Co-director Latvia Research Division

Great Great Grandfather Aaron COHNREICH born ANKLAM 1842 #general




I am looking at my paternal family tree and have found that my Great Great Grandfather was Aaron COHNREICH born Anklam 1842, his parents were Elias Cohnreich (1816-1872) and Taubchen Werthiem (1818 - 1892) I saw a post on your thread from Nick Landau who is related to Aaron Cohnreich's sister Cecelia COHNREICH born circa 1855 also in Anklam. The family moved to London in the late 1800's and the post mentioned the 1881 census. I think it was an old post, so this may be a long shot.


Thank you for any help or advise you can give me.


Liz Thomas

Translation from German (I think) #translation


Shalom friends,

Some years ago, my grandfather gave me the attached letter. I have scanned it. All I know is that it was written in 1938. I would very much appreciate a translation and/or an explanation of some of the content.

I am very grateful.

Shabbat Shalom,
Yoav Aran

Free JewishGen Webinar: The History of the Geography of New York City #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll

We invite you to attend another free presentation in our series of JewishGen Talks webinars, with our speaker, Dr. Stephen Morse.
The History of the Geography of New York City
Wednesday, November 18, 2020
2:00 PM Eastern Time (New York)
New York City has undergone numerous changes in its geographical boundaries over the years. An understanding of these boundaries is important in order to know what archive to search in when looking for vital records. This talk shows the changes to New York City's geography, and describes the difference between New York City and the City of New York. The origin of the counties and their changing boundaries, along with the early geographies of Brooklyn and Queens, are presented. And finally, the consolidation of 1898 that created the City of New York and defined the five boroughs is discussed.
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Re: Kreplach and regions, etc. #general

Sharona Zaret

Hi Courtney,
I have an old recipe that my Bubbe made for us which she said was one from her Mother (early 1800's)  but not sure it would be one you are looking for. I think also David that it wasn't talked about much where the recipe originated as you state as it was "only that it tasted marvelous!"  : )  Bubbe had Western European in her background as well but she pointed out that the ones from Russia resembled the Russian pelmeni. In Western Europe these little dumplings were filled with meat during the early days but the Slavic part of Europe filled them with Farmer Cheese or Ricotta cheese only. From what I understand there was a meat shortage in Western Europe during those early years so then they were filled with fruit which were called "Varenikes".

Serves Four                                                                                                     Meat Filling
2 cups plain all purpose flour                                                                   1 large or 2 small onions chopped small or finely according to your own preference                                                                                                                                              remembering you only have so much room per square.
salt (use your best judgment according to Bubbe)                                    about 14 oz of pot roast meat or can also use minced ground meat
2 eggs                                                                                                        6-8 tablespoons of chicken fat or vegetable oil
chicken fat or vegetable oil optional                                                           ground black pepper and salt
Whole chives plus some chopped chives for garnish                                2-3 chopped garlic cloves
                                                                                                                    mashed potatoes optional
1. To make the meat filling: Mince or finely chop or even grind the meat. Fry the onions in the chicken fat or vegetable oil for about 5- 9 or 10 minutes. Add the minced meat to the onions/garlic and add the salt and pepper. Bubbe would pour salt in her hand and throw it in and say that was THAT then would throw some over her shoulder.  LOL! Be sure to stir. If adding mashed potatoes mix in the meat filling a scant amount of mashed potatoes using your judgment as to how many servings you plan to serve. This recipe is for four servings so pay attention to how much you would use if making more servings. I would say if you like them starchier use more potatoes if you like meatier use less potatoes. (Bubbe's recipe again)
2. Put the flour, then eggs and a pinch of salt in a bowl and mix. Gradually add 1-2 tablespoons of water until the dough sticks together or looks like it will hold shape. Continue to mix until it forms a non-sticky ball. If you need a little more flour that is okay but don't overdo. Place in a covered bowl and leave for 30 minutes. 
3.. After 30 minutes break off a piece of dough about the size of a walnut and roll out (as thinly as you can without tearing the dough) on a lightly floured surface. Then cut the dough into 3 inch squares. Some make semi squares but my Bubbe made squares saying it was to honor the 3 patriarchs. Take a square at the time and dampen the edge of the square then put a spoonful of the filling in the center of the square but be careful not to overfill . Fold the edges of the dough to form a triangular shape then press the edges together. 
4. Add a little flour to a bowl and dust the squares in the flour then put on a non stick baking sheet. Let them rest for 30 minutes. (Bubbe's recipe)
5. Meanwhile boil a pan of salted water then gently put the squares in the boiling water for about 5 minutes just until tender. Drain. Garnish with chives. 
6. If you prefer you can fry the dumplings until brown in a little chicken fat or vegetable oil in a frying pan. Then garnish with the chives. 

High Holy days the kreplach are traditionally served in Chicken Soup; other holidays (depending on which) have dried fruit filled ones for Purim then cheese filled for Shavuot.
You might already have one similar but this one is an old one coming from my Bubbe. Well wishes on finding the recipe you are searching for. Will look out to see if anyone responds as if they were so good I would like that recipe also.  : ) 

Sharona Zaret via Linda_Z 

Re: Hungary Ancestor location Help needed #hungary

Rodney Eisfelder

Perhaps it is Jevíčko in the Czech Republic, previously known as Gewitsch in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Gewitsch is a German spelling, Gevitz is a reasonable English rendering.

I hope this helps,
Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia

Re: Identify military uniform and medals #photographs #general #germany

Jx. Gx.

Hi Lorraine.

You got some excellent information from Robert and Corinne. Let me add a few bits of info. Your relative is wearing the Iron Cross First Class and I believe these were issued by the national government as opposed to state medals. That is why it is pinned above the other medal. I agree with Robert that the lower medal is almost certainly the "Friedrich August Cross 2nd Class from the Grand Duchy of Oldenburg."  Incidentally, the Iron Cross Second Class had a ring at the top and was suspended by a ribbon. When worn on the uniform, the ribbon was partially tucked into a button hole on the uniform. As the numbering implies, the Iron Cross First Class was of a higher order. During WWI, about 218,000 Iron Cross First Class medals were awarded. Upwards of 5 million Iron Cross Second Class medals were awarded. I can't make out the rank on the uniform or which regiment he belonged to because all that information would be indicated on the shoulder straps that are obscured and is photographed in black & white. He is definitely an officer and given his age I would guess anywhere from a major, lieutenant colonel to a full colonel. 

Jeffrey Gee

Re: Identify military uniform and medals #photographs #general #germany

Fig, Lorraine

Hello Corinne and others, 
Thank you for your replies.  Unfortunately, I don't know any details about the person in the photo and can only guess that he would have come from East Prussia or Berlin based on family history.  The names I am researching there are Sladowsky/i and Ludwinowsky/i. 

I did find a few Sladowskis in the "List of Losses" and one Sladowski in the POW list but they did not seem to be the right persons.  I saw the word "Ort" but do not know if that referred to the home towns or to the place where the army was stationed.

I looked at the Wurttemberg archive website and there was some information though I did not find a searchable database. 

On I found the "Germany & Austria, Directories of Military and Marine Officers, 1600-1918".  There was a "Dr. Sladowsky" listed in the years 1900-1908, but no first name was listed.  There was a Dr. Max Sladowsky in our family (a dentist).  Dr. Sladowsky was listed in the Landwehrbezirf III Berlin.  In the later years he had "LD2" written after his name which I think is the Landwehr Division Reserves (men between 35-45 years).  However, in 1908 Max would have been only 28 years of age, so that doesn't really make sense.  Also, there were no medals listed beside his name (some other people on the list did have medals listed).  If I have misunderstood these military details, please advise.

Kind regards,
Lorraine Fig Shapiro
Ann Arbor, MI 

Re: Hungary Ancestor location Help needed #hungary


It could be Nagygejőc, today in Transcarpathia region of Ukraine. 
Try contacting mr. Baruch Huber, I believe he can help you. 
His email : huberbelay@...

All the best 
Mark Friedman

"Invisible Years, A Family's Collected Account of Separation and Survival during the Holocaust in the Netherlands" #holocaust

Patricia Klindienst <epk13@...>

I write to introduce the Jewish Genealogy community to an extraordinarily beautiful and important book:  Invisible Years, the story of a Dutch family in hiding during the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands was published in May 2020. The pandemic has meant that the author and distinguished book designer, Daphne Geismar, has had to cancel all public appearances. The only way to get word out about her astonishing achievement in reconstructing her family's story from materials her mother had kept hidden in a drawer for more than sixty years (“the Holocaust drawer”) is through the Internet.  


My hope is that you will be moved by the story and images in this email to visit the books’ web site, then find and share a copy of the book as soon as you can.  


The Book Described:

"The book 
Invisible Years is an intimate portrait of an extended Jewish family living in the Nazi-occupied Netherlands who, when faced with imminent deportation, refused to comply. As the Nazis tightened their grip on the Jewish population, Daphne Geismar’s family was slowly restricted from public life. Sensing the murderous consequences of deportation, they decided to separate and go into hiding. Through interwoven letters, diaries, and interviews, Geismar presents the story of nine family members—her parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles—in their own words, alongside a trove of photographs and artifacts. A foreword and historical contributions by Robert Jan van Pelt, Holocaust scholar and leading authority on Auschwitz, provide historical context. This family’s detailed account of one of history’s most horrific chapters challenges us to follow their example of resistance to inhumanity."  


 (See photograph, “Invisible Years cover.jpg”)


The Origin of the Book:

Daphne’s describes the moment of discovery that led, over seven years, to the painstaking recreation of her family’s story:  


“In 2006, I visited the church in Rotterdam where my grandparents, Chaim and Fifi de Zoete, had been hidden in the attic during the Holocaust. When I returned to Connecticut, I asked my mother if she had anything that would tell me more about the particulars of her and my father’s experiences under German occupation, and also the experiences of other family members. She surprised me by leading me to an antique desk and sliding open a bottom drawer packed with journals and papers. Inside this drawer, she had put everything Holocaust related (subsequently referred to as the Holocaust drawer). The quantity of material that survived is remarkable.”


(See attached photographs, “The Holocaust Drawer.jpg,” “3 sisters.jpg,” “Judith’s hidden star.jpg”)


Among the treasures in the drawer was her grandfather Erwin Geismar’s diary. Invisible Years opens with an image of the first page, with a translation of Erwin’s words.  


 (See photograph, “Invisible Years p.1”)


From A Review by Peter Antony, Chief Production Manager, The Metropolitan Museum of Art: 

"Calibrating your family memoir to the historical context in which individual lives unfolded (and ended) is a brilliant approach to telling this story, and the beauty of your design provides equally brilliant architecture. I also think the publication of the book is well-timed, given the persistence of deniers and the world’s current and tragic drift to the right. I think your book will stand as a poignant, erudite, and handsome addition to the literature and will become and remain as indispensable as Anne’s diary." 


From a Review by Roberta Silman, who calls Invisible Years “a book for the ages”: 


Invisible Years is simultaneously an indispensable source and a distinguished work of art.”


The Last Words of Erwin Geismar’s Diary:


In the end, I hope that my lines will be read by people who will see how we struggled under terrible circumstances, and that the reader will want to take up this struggle that we have fought and experienced from the front lines for the construction of a worthwhile human society.

Daphne Geismar's bio:

Daphne Geismar designs books on art and history for museums and publishers including the Metropolitan Museum of Art; Museum of Modern Art, NY; Museum of Fine Arts, Boston; and Yale University Press.  Her designs have won numerous awards. Her involvement in publications that use art and literature to educate began with her thesis at Yale on DIRECTION magazine (1937–1945), in which artists and writers spoke out against fascism. As an educator, Geismar developed a photography and writing program for teenage mothers at Middlesex Hospital; she teaches book design at the University of Connecticut; and she has lectured and been a visiting critic in graphic design at a number of colleges and universities.


For more information on the book, please visit the website:


Patricia Klindienst


Guilford, CT


SPIWAK /SPIVAK of Orgeyev & Kishinev, Bessarabia; Mendoza, Argentina; and Queens.



Re: Australia - Renee Ruby of the Kapper-Roubitschek Family #austria-czech #records


Hi Carol 
 Have you tried looking at the records of the NSW Births, Deaths & Marriages?  I had a quick look and found a death entry for "Ernst Raubitschek" in 1971. I'm not sure if it's the same person, without ordering a copy of the Certificate. But looking at the Electoral roll in 1980 it only shows Fredericke at the address you mentioned in Pymble.  There is also an entry for "Gertrude Raubitschek" in the BDM records for 1987 but I'm not sure if that's any relation since she is shown as being 84 at the time of her death (so born approximately 1903). I also came across a video recording relating to a lady "Fritzi Raubitschek" from the Shoah Foundation:   There are others mentioned in the recording (including the family Pracht), but I'm unsure if there is any relation. They are shown as living in Pymble.  If you are aware of whether they practised their faith, one of the local shuls may have a Book of Remembrance. All the best with your research.

Bronwyn Van Dam

Documentary Film Festival from the National Library of Israel. #announcements

Phil Goldfarb

Documentary Film Festival at the National Library of Israel. From November 15-25 some outstanding films available in English for viewing: in the event anyone is interested.

Phil Goldfarb
President JGS of Tulsa

Reminder: JGSNY Sun. Nov. 15 Zoom Webinar, 2PM EST #events #jgs-iajgs

Phyllis Rosner

Jewish Genealogical Society NY Meeting
Sunday November 15, 2020 at 2 p.m.
Zoom Webinar

Researching Your Litvak Roots…with LitvakSIG and More

Speaker: Judy Baston

Do you want to know more about your Litvak heritage? LitvakSIG’s searchable All Lithuania Database (ALD) provides the primary foundation for Litvak genealogical research, with translations of over 2.2 million Jewish records, census and vital records key among them.  Also in the ALD database are data from records in Lithuanian archives for a number of towns in Belarus and Poland. This presentation will survey the LitvakSIG database and website, as well as other major resources for Litvak research, such as JewishGen, Yad Vashem and district research groups. Learn how to determine what records are available and how to read and analyze your findings to achieve an optimal outcome. 

Judy Baston is a member of the Executive Committee and Board of Directors of Jewish Records Indexing–Poland (JRI-Poland). She is on the Board of LitvakSIG, currently serving as Secretary. She has filled leadership positions and moderated discussion groups at both organizations and others, including BialyGen, for many years. Judy has been involved with the Jewish Community Library in San Francisco for nearly thirty years and coordinates its monthly genealogy clinic. She was the recipient of the 2015 International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) Lifetime Achievement Award.

All are welcome; attendance is free, but registration is required:

Submitted by:
Phyllis Rosner
JGSNY VP Communications
New York, NY

Jews in Brittany in the Middle Ages #france #records

Sue Nusbaum

I am descended from Les Juiffs in Saint Malo in the 1400 and 1500s. 

Olive LeJuiff, 1520-1570

Guyonne Derrien, 1503- ? who married Jehan LeJuiff, Sieur de Champedavoine, an attorney, ordinary judge of the court of Saint Malo and lieutenant of M. the constable of Saint Malo, 1500-1555.

Gilles (William) Le Juif, 1480-1522, who married Joan Seaman, 1475-1507.

Jean LeJuif, a farmer in 1462 who paid taxes mentioned in the Archives des Cotes du Norde, 568. 

Guilaume Le Juif, age 40 in 1467 (William Bibye Bibte, 1420-1502?)

I am trying to trace this family line further back, and to find more information about them. 

At some point, the Le Juiff family converted from Judaism to Catholicism. When? Where? Why?

How long had the family lived in the Saint Malo area? Was there a synagogue? Jewish burial ground? Were they hidden Jews, Marranos from Portugal?

I hope you can help me answer these questions.

Suzanne King Nusbaum

Re: Looking for Pesach LANGSAM connection to my LANGSAM branch #galicia #dna #names

Moishe Miller


While it is true that this MIGHT be the DNA for all Langsam's, this
terminal SNP is very specific to a small subset of Pesach's descendants.
GENI does not have more than two yDNA tests for this entire line. Part
of the request I believe is to find and test more male yDNA descendants.

The current yDNA testers trace back to Haplogroup J1, as follows:
J-FGC65704 > J-BY80 > J-ZS2736 > J-ZS2728 > J-L816 (back to J1)

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
JGFF# 3391

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
JGFF #3391

seeking genealogist/researcher in Germany #germany


I am looking for a genealogist or researcher in Germany who can help me investigate the possible Jewish ancestry of my late German mother. 

Thank you.
Roberto D'Angelo

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