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Re: Records for Ellis Island deportations #records

Susan&David
 

The Board of Special Inquiry (BSI) page , Ancestry.com image 164 of 165 shows the sisters held for Doctors Certificate on Dec 11, 1907,  with the hold withdrawn on Dec 17, but reinstated, and the deportation order executed on Jan 8 of 1908   The went back aboard the Statendam.  Only a few  BSI hearing records survived.    https://www.uscis.gov/records/genealogy/genealogy-notebook/researching-deportation-records

There is a Holland America Line website  https://stadsarchief.rotterdam.nl/zoek-en-ontdek/passagierslijsten/zoeken-op-passagiers/?mizig=231
that includes both incoming and outgoing passenger lists.   At the bottom of the page you can find a translate button to enable reading  it in English.
You may be able to find them on the return voyage.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 11/15/2020 4:49 PM, Mary Henderson wrote:
Hi, all!

Are there resources to find information regarding the detention and
deportation of people trying to immigrate through Ellis Island in the
early 1900s?

There is a passenger list for sisters Ettel and Riwke Rand, arriving
in New York, Ellis Island, on Dec. 9, 1907 on the SS Ryndam from
Rotterdam. To the left of their names on the passenger list is
stamped "deported". I'm hoping to find out more about their
deportation. On the second page of the document is a handwritten note
that appears to say "Dr holds" so they may have been ill, but I'd like
to find out any details.

Mary Henderson


Which is the town of "Zanzire, Poland"? #belarus #poland

Roy Ogus
 

On the Ellis Island passenger list for a relative arriving in New York in 1920, he listed his former residence as "Zanzire, Poland."
 
Does anyone have any idea to which town this may refer?  I had believed that this person had come from one of the towns in western Belarus, likely Dyatlovo/Zhetel or Novogorodok, but the ShtetlSeeker couldn't find anything nearby for the town of "Zanzire".
 
Thanks for any help.
 
Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA
roy.ogus at outlook.com


Re: Meaning of surname “Moshchennik” #translation #names #lithuania #russia

mvayser@...
 

Alexander,
it seems unlikely that a last name would be formed from that specific village deep in Northern Russia.  There shouldn't have been any Jews in that part of Russia during the late 1700s.  A quick Google search brings up at least 2 villages with the same name in Poland, just like Fred indicated in his original post.

There is a simple solution to this question - Alexander Beider can provide the answer, but it's seems that the easiest way to ask the question if we knew what the original text looked like.  So I would like to ask if original source can be provided.

Mike Vayser


ViewMate translation request - Russian #russia #translation #poland

Greg Tuckman
 

Hello everyone,
I've posted 5 vital records in Russian for which I need a translations. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ...

1.  Marriage record of GUTERMAN - WAJSBROT:  https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM88452&data=04%7C01%7C%7C34a19f9fba1d47a6c5db08d889b40af7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637410753647096755%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=gIqgG%2FF3T%2BjkDiPJuGb8IHSDp%2FqUbfz5RmDJnmfW8EE%3D&reserved=0

2.  Death record of Szyja LAKS:  https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM88448&data=04%7C01%7C%7C83b16b5c6f9a4ff4689f08d889b4070a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637410753583004346%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YtkQUSdXHDl%2F%2Bsu%2B%2BGspNptyorAgNDRtiH359DG%2BQJI%3D&reserved=0

3.  Death record of Cypa Ita LAKS: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM88447&data=04%7C01%7C%7C915676c094a44f9e49f008d889b40386%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637410753522607411%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=D81Gm%2B%2F%2FfY5Vu2NAWfQncq%2BjK5PR4t0CE0lkvCmb9Lo%3D&reserved=0

4.  Death record of Symcha Beniamin GUTERMAN:  https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM88341&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb4cf73bf1fa34473756708d884498e27%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637404798729409570%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2BDybEXbHDqJ7ZSrp4Jy3LcDD5Qv5LavAHTfyaJWXGrE%3D&reserved=0

5.  Death record of Izrael Hersz GUTERMAN:  https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM88340&data=04%7C01%7C%7C80e1a777d5fa473a142008d884498a07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637404798659625253%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2BG4qC%2FIJ8e7MHsxvf6gkT%2FcFwnb3Ubqp2aANohhJxys%3D&reserved=0

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.

Greg Tuckman
Phoenix, Arizona USA


Records for Ellis Island deportations #records

Mary Henderson
 

Hi, all!

Are there resources to find information regarding the detention and
deportation of people trying to immigrate through Ellis Island in the
early 1900s?

There is a passenger list for sisters Ettel and Riwke Rand, arriving
in New York, Ellis Island, on Dec. 9, 1907 on the SS Ryndam from
Rotterdam. To the left of their names on the passenger list is
stamped "deported". I'm hoping to find out more about their
deportation. On the second page of the document is a handwritten note
that appears to say "Dr holds" so they may have been ill, but I'd like
to find out any details.

Mary Henderson


Re: Meaning of surname “Moshchennik” #translation #names #lithuania #russia

Alexander Sharon
 

Village and stream Moshchenik аrе located in Russia proper:

Moshchenik

populated place

58°29' N 33°54' E

G

Russia

235.1 miles NW of Moskva 55°45' N 37°37' E

 

In addition, there is village description in Russian Wiki at :

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


Re: Advanced question on family name adoption lists in Baden #germany #records

David Seldner
 

Yes, the original source is in the Generallandesarchiv Karlsruhe. It is all based on the "Judenedikt" of Grossherzig Carl Friedrich, dated Jan 13, 1809 in which he requested that all Jews in Baden have to adopt a "vererbbarer Zuname". I took a look at the collection when I was at LBI in New York many years ago. As mentioned, the original tables with "old name", "new name" is in the Generallandesarchiv Karlsruhe. I only checked the list for Hainstadt in Baden which was written in Wallduern and is contained in the list of the "Landvogtei Mosbach". GLA Abt. (department) 313, Nr. 1262 - but I guess that this number is not valid for the whole collection. It was more than 20 years ago that I was in those archives. Unfortunately, no family members were listed.
--
David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany
seldner@...


Translation Help Need for Russian document #records #russia #translation #announcements

amitch1066@...
 

Hi,

This document has been in family for decades, and its origins and content are a mystery.  Additionally, my Russian is rough at best!  Would anyone be able to translate and/or identify what this document is?

Thanks in advance!
Amy Mitchell


Re: How far back can one go? #general

Barbara Stack
 

Digest #1408
 
Hello all,

I've attached 12 pages of the document Ilya referenced listing of numbers of Volyn Jews in 175--a much more manageable file. Perhaps someone can transcribe it?
 
Best regards,
Barbara Stack
Berkeley, CA
 
ALTSTEIN                       Mlawa, Poland
ALTSZTEJN                    Nowy Dwor, Mazowiecki, Poland
CHRZADOWSKI            Brzeziny, Poland
CHSHUNSTOFSKY       Brzeziny, Kikol, Lipno Poland
DROZDOWCIZ              Nowy Dwor, Mazowiecki, Poland
OLDSTEIN                      England, US, Australia
RESNICK                        Volhynia, Ukraine
SCHLEGER                     Lokachi, Ukraine
STACHOWITZ                USA
STASIOWICH                 Nowy Dwor, Mazowiecki, Poland
THORNER                       Plock, Poland
TORUNCZYK                 Warszawa, Poland
YECHT                             Lokachi, Ukraine
ZLOTNICK                      Nowy Dwor, Mazowiecki, Poland


Re: Migration Eastward from Germanic countries #germany #lithuania

Michele Lock
 

Is Reissen a town in Germany, or are you referring to a town in Lithuania? 

I tried Jewishgen's town finder, and couldn't locate the name in either country.

for what it's worth - Steinberg is German for 'Stone Mountain' and in German is pronounced 'Shteinberg'. In Yiddish, Stone Mountain is Shteynbarg, but of course written in Hebrew letters. The two names are similar because Yiddish is a Germanic language, with Slavic and Hebrew influences.
--
Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Minsk gub., Belarus


Re: How far back can one go? #general

Marilyn Robinson
 

I have also seen/skimmed the 1765 Census of the Jews, handwritten in Polish ( with some Russian). Of course, this census does include first & patronymic names, with labels of wife, daughter, son, widow, etc., but not fixed last names, which were not yet required. It also appears to include addresses.
Marilyn Robinson


Re: Volunteer cememtery project from home #records

Leya Aronson
 

Hi, I would be happy to log and translate. I use Irfanview for photos, and have excel.
Looking forward to hearing from you,

Leya Aronson
Toronto, Canada


Latest additions to JGFF towns database #JewishGenUpdates

Alexander Sharon
 

Below is a list of localities submitted and approved as additions to JGFF towns database:

Alberovice,
Czech Republic

Andreyevo-Ivanovka (ex Chernove), Ukraine

Atkar, Hungary

 

Balaceana, Romania

Baikalo-Kudara, Russia

Birkenwald, France

Bohata, Slovakia

Borsodgeszt, Hungary

Borynichi, Ukraine

Brynica, Poland

 

Chernitsa, Ukraine

Chepele, Ukraine

Cieszymowo Wielkie, Poland (ex Gross Teschendorf, Pomerania)

Chrast, Czech Republic

Czersk Pomorski, Poland

Dabrowica, (Lezajsk), Poland

Dehova, Ukraine

 

Ebsdorfergrund, Germany

El Kelaa des Sraghna, Morocco

Eschbach, Germany

 

Frydman, Poland

 

Gagybator, Hungary

Gargenville, France

Gasawa, Poland

 

Halenkov, Czech Republic

Hulice, Czech Republic

 

Isep, Poland

Jedlova, Czech Republic

 

Kamienica, Slovakia

Kamienica Dolna, Poland

Kolyudy, Russia  

Kostiantynivka, Ukraine

Kozhukhov, Ukraine

 

Lyakhodov, Ukraine

Lautenthal, Germany

Lazy pod Makytou, Slovakia

Leingarten, Germany

Liptovske Sliace, Slovakia

 

Magyarcsanad, Hungary

McPherson, KS, USA

Medford, OR, USA

Menton, France

Mondolfo, Italy

Monor, Romania

Morino, Belarus

Murrhardt, Germany

Myatyn, Ukraine

 

Nagysimonyi, Hungary

Nagyszekely, Hungary

Nagytotfalu, Hungary

Nitrianske Rudno, Slovakia

Nova Vyzhva, Ukraine

 

 

Obisovce, Slovakia

Olkhovets, (near Bobrka), Ukraine

Oleksandrivka, (SubCarpathia), Ukraine

Orpa, Belarus

Osmoloda, Ukraine

Oszko, Hungary

 

Podedworze, Poland

Podbrezi, Czech Republic

Ponikwa, Ukraine

Przytoczno, Poland

 

Rakobovty, Ukraine

Rathsweiler, Germany

 

Sajohidveg, Hungary

Sarmellek, Hungary

Schirmeck, France

Selkirk, MB, Canada

Smidyn, Ukraine

Smolinske, Slovakia

Smrzovka, Czech Republic

Sofiyevka, Ukraine

Solopysky, Czech Republic

Spassk-Ryazanskiy, Russia

Stara Huta, Ukraine

Stara Vyzhivka, Ukraine

Sudzha, Russia

Tatranska Javorina, Slovakia

Tukhlya, Ukraine

Tishovka, Belarus

Tiszaeszlar, Hungary

Tiszavid, Hungary

Trhovy Stepanov, Czech Republic

 

Ullnitz, Germany

Uelversheim, Germany

Viciunai, Lithuania

Viesite, Latvia

Villeneuve-sur-Lot, France

Vlasim, Czech Republic

Vlcany, Slovakia

Vonyarcvashegy, Hungary

 

Yarchevtsy, Ukraine (ex Jarczowce, Poland)

Alexander Sharon
JGFF coordinator


Re: How far back can one go? #general

luc.radu@...
 

There is a particular challenge for people looking for ancestors which came from the Old Kingdom of Romania (mostly Moldova). While the vast majority of Jews living in that area in  1850 +/ - decades, came from places  where Jews did acquire surnames (Austrian Galicia and Bukovina and Russian Podolia and Bessarabia), in many if not most cases such surnames were not used in the civil records which started in 1865-66.  Many Jews used occupational surnames, patronymics or surnames unrelated to the original one. In the same family and even for the same person there is a surname variability which I do not think is found in Russian or Austrian lands.

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY


Re: Identify military uniform and medals #photographs #general #germany

Gerald and Margaret
 

Attached is a 1918 painting of my grandfather, Ernst RACHWALSKY in the German army.  Very similar uniform.  

Margaret LEVIN nee STEIN
London UK


BRUHA BRUNKA MEDNIC MEDNICK wife JOINOVICI #bessarabia #general

Lemberski Evelyne
 

Good evening 

I am looking for the date of death of BRUHA BRUNKA MEDNIC MEDNICK wife JOINOVICI or JOANOVICI born in Kichineff (Chisniau) on  03/27/1901 as well as the cemetery where she is buried. She got married on 05/28/1922  Kichineff (Chisniau)  and lived in Paris with her husband.

Thanking you for your help.


Evelyne LEMBERSKI
evelynelemberski@...
Saint Maurice
France


Re: Advanced question on family name adoption lists in Baden #germany #records

Irwin Keller
 

I never knew this resource. Very exciting – found my ancestors in the lists. Thank you, Jeff. I'll watch the conversation closely to see what answers people to your question.


Re: Advanced question on family name adoption lists in Baden #germany #records

geo_lamb@...
 

Bade was politically very close to Franceand was dependant after 1806 from French Empire (Napoléeon 1st).
It should have follwed the law edicted the 20 of July requiring that all jews take a family name and be identified by First name -Family name and more with XXX ben (or bath) YYY. That leeds to funny things (greek names like Aristide, all the jews from a village taking the same family name etc.)
For more infos in French, look at http://judaisme.sdv.fr/genealog/memoire/memoir3.htm
Truly yours
Jean-Pierre Lambert, president of the jewish society for historical studies, Alsace and Lorraine.


Re: Hungary Ancestor location Help needed #hungary

Scott
 

I think you are right. Another member emailed me the following:

The place that Herman Fabian identified  as his birthplace is, beyond any doubt, 
Velyki Heivtsi/Nagygejōc/Gevitz present-day Ukraine. Have in mind that in ukrainian H is pronounced as G.  
Gross (german)  = Nagy (hungarian) = Velyki (russian)  =Great (english). 

This all makes sense, as my great grandfather came from TiszaSalamon now Solomonove which is 14 miles from there. 

I wish I could find some matching records. It is great to finally have a location. Another brick wall knocked down. 

Thanks to all who responded, either by email. or to the forum. 

Scott P. Dann 216/470-0195


Re: Seeking Romanian Birth Certificate / Researcher #romania

luc.radu@...
 

I assume you have tried with the Iasi  National Archives. The reason it may not have worked is that that Archive  (for the largest - except Bucuresti --  Jewish community in the Old KIngdom) is not set up to do research — there are no index files and in my experience even when some office has an index Jews may have been entered using first names, and not the surname (which may not have even existed). So unless the exact DOB and the “real” surname (or patronymic) was used in the post emigration records, the Archive may not find any trace. A researcher may have to go over thousands of records with no guarantee anything will be found (as sometimes people indicate Iasi but the actual place may be a nearby place like Podu Iloaei or Targu Frumos). One suggestion is to ask the JG Romania admins — they do have the pictures of the civil records of  Iasi for the 1890s and possibly could help…

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY

9641 - 9660 of 662108