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Re: Hebrew translation request
#translation
yitschok@...
The groom is Dan Kalbo son of Avraham Yaakov
The date on the back is Wednesday, week of Reah 5664 (August 3 1904) -- Yitschok Margareten
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Re: Hebrew translation request
#translation
David Shapiro
That is correct, and the name of the groom is Dan Eliyahu (the second name is not clear) son of Avraham Yaakov. David Shapiro Jerusalem
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Re: Gesher Galicia SIG Yizkor Book Project, October 2013
#yizkorbooks
#galicia
It lookls like JewishGen is working on it. https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/kuty/kuty.html I see the Table of Contents and the Martyr page are done but the rest is not clickable. The NYPL does not have a translated copy. Maybe write JewishGen and find out the status.
Steve
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mvayser@...
Efraim,
That is not correct. You are thinking of modern Russian patronymics. However, if you examine 18-19th century records, you will see both types being used. Source: I've transcribed and examined tens of thousands of 18th through early 20th century records. Mike Vayser
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Re: meaning of the word "molitor"
#names
Aline,
Molitor in Latin means organizer, builder, originator. Best regards Friedrich Lehmkühler
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Yohanan
Re surname MARGULIS / MARGALIOT, I wonder if any of the researchers encountered change of name to PERLMUTTER?
My grandmother maiden name was Perlmutter, from Bukowina / Galicia, and her cousin once told me that it originated from MARGULIS. We have no family legend about being connected to a Rabbinic dynasty though. Yohanan Loeffler Melbourne Australia
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ViewMate translation request - Russian
#latvia
#translation
left twist
I request a translation of the Russian text of a Marriage record. It is on ViewMate at the following address
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM88603 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Howard Presser
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Potok Zloty cemetery project-link correction
#ukraine
Milton Koch
The previous email had an incorrect link to the photographs. The correct link is posted below.
I am undertaking an attempt to save and restore parts of this small
cemetery in Potok Zloty-now Zolityi Potik (Ukraine). There is a website from the Center for Jewish Art, in Jerusalem, with many pictures (pages) of matzevot from the old cemetery. The pictures are thumbnails, so asking for help with interpreting postings via Viewmate is not likely to be helpful due to poor quality of uploads. I am attaching the link to the site with the entire collection of
matzevot and some of them also have Hebrew translations. https://cja.huji.ac.il/browser.phpmode=set&id=7516&sort=DESC&many=20&start=0 Please reply privately to me if you can help, advise, make any suggestions, etc. Thank you very much. Milton Koch Bethesda, MD, USA mjk1944@...
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JewishGen Talks: New Recordings Available
#JewishGenUpdates
Avraham Groll
Dear Friends,
We hope you will join us for our next JewishGen Talk on Wednesday, December 2nd @ 2:00 PM EST, when Adam Brown discusses The Genetic Origins of the Jewish People - Hanukkah 2020 Edition.
Register now at www.JewishGen.org/Live. Wishing you all good health, and success with your research.
Avraham
Avraham Groll
Executive Director
JewishGen.org
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Re: Records for Ellis Island deportations
#records
Mary Henderson
Hi, Susan!
This Rand family is from Dabrowa Tarnowska, Austria, now part of Poland. The earliest I've traced the line to is a Szulim Rand born about 1860 who married Basche Roth. Mary Henderson
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Debbie Terman
Hello all, I am trying to connect 3 branches of ZILBERMAN/ZYLBERMAN ancestors who were all from Wyszkow & surrounding area in Russia/Poland in mid to late 1800s. My theory is that these 3 people were siblings: Abram Josek (Yosev) ZILBERMAN Chawa Zylberman DYBNER Leiba Rejza Zilberman RUBIN but I haven't been able to prove or disprove it. Here is what I know: Leiba was born early in 1860, calculated from her age as listed in her children's birth records. Her parents were Ajzyk ZILBERMAN & Chaja Sura SOKOL. Leiba had a twin brother Lejzor Litman and an older brother Zelek, born c. 1858 as calculated from his marriage record. (There are also 2 younger siblings who I found, with a 6 year gap between the twins & the next one.) By using parent ages in the marriage records, I estimate that Ajzyk was born in 1816 & Chaja Sura in 1824. This would mean that their oldest child I've found (Zelek) was born when Ajzyk was 41 and Chaja Sura was 33. That would have been very old to start having children during that time (and very old for my family). Chawa was born between 1850 & 1854, calculated from her age as listed in her children's birth records. There are discrepancies in her age listings, which is why a range. She was my gg-grandmother. Because she was born and married before the earliest Wyszkow records posted on JRI-Poland (which start 1874), I cannot locate her records and do not know her parents' names. She would fit in as an older sibling to Zelek and Leiba based on the timing. Abram Josek was born between 1861 & 1864, again calculated from children's birth records with age discrepancies. I don't know his parents' names, though he would fit in the 6-year gap mentioned above. As far as I know, none of these people came to the US, but they all had at least one child who did, and I am able to find information on the US side about those who immigrated. My uncle z"l, who passed away last summer, had a vague recollection that Leiba's children & Abram Josek's children were first cousins to Chawa's daughter (my great-grandmother & his grandmother), which would fit with the 3 ancestors above being siblings. However, a vague recollection is not a proof. Can anyone guide me to where I can look for information from the 1850-1865 period in Wyszkow to help me figure this out? Thanks in advance. Debbie Cohn Terman Newton MA, USA
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Orange County Jewish Genealogy Society Meeting on Sunday
#announcements
#events
Michelle Sandler
The Orange County California Jewish Genealogy Society is having their monthly meeting on Sunday at 10:00 am Pacific time. The speaker is Judy Baston speaking on doing Jewish Genealogy in Lithuania using Litvak SIG. Register at www.OCJGS.org. Free to members and $5.00 to non members.
Michelle Sandler
Vice President of Programming OCJGS
President OCJGS
Librarian OCJGS
Publicity OCJGS
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Re: 1910 Manhattan census - Seward Park Strollers
#usa
Mary Henderson
Hi, all!
Thank you for all the great responses! Based on the reply from JewishGenner Sharon Frank, who observed - it seems that the term "stroller" had at some point in time connoted a "vagabond" or "loiterer" - I searched just on the term stroller and see that the Merriam-Webster online dictionary shows one definition as vagrant, tramp, so it would seem that these probably were men living in the park. From Sherri Bobish's post it sounds like there were lots of amenities in the park, so I can see how it would have been an attractive place for a homeless man. I'll post if I find any new information. Mary Henderson
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Not to be contrarian, but the statement "patronyms in Russian are always "ovitch" never "ov" is not consistent with my extensive experience. I have records of Russian family (from throughout the Pale)....with patronymics ending in ovich, ovitch, ovitz, ovic/s, owitch, owic/s, owich, ov, ova, ovna and ovka. There may be a tendency to prefer certain versions in certain time period or in certain types of records. But there is no "always" for name endings or their spelling in transliteration---at least not in the past.
-- Deb aka Debra Katz Pacific Beach CA USA dnadeb@...
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Vital records from Bessarabia.
#bessarabia
#records
Steven
Does anyone know why whenever I search JewishGen for birth, marriage or death records from Bessarabia, only records from Kishinev are found? Where are those records for the smaller towns? I’m mainly looking for records from Soroki and Ataki. I find revision lists and voters lists but not birth, marriage and death records. Do those records even exist but are not uploaded on JewishGen? Does anyone know?
Thank you, Steve Buzil researching:BUZILA and KILYAN from present day Moldova GRUBER and FEINGOLD from present day Ukraine SEIDLER/ZEIDLER, GROSSBARD, BERLIN, WICZYNSKY, PTAKEWICZ, GOODMAN, DOBROSZKA and BROWN/BRAUN from present day Poland. PORTNOY, GERSHON and OFSAIOF/OVSAIOVICH from present day Lithuania MNUSHKIN and KOLVARACHIK from present day Belarus EISENSTEIN and ZALIO from present day Romania
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December 13 Meeting of the Minnesota Jewish Genealogical Society (MNJGS)
#announcements
#jgs-iajgs
WALTER ELIAS
MNJGS is pleased to present a panel discussion of the film The Flat on Sunday December 13 at 1:00 Central Time.
Summary: As the film maker cleans out the apartment that belonged to his grandparents, who immigrated from Nazi Germany, he uncovers clues pointing to a complicated and shocking story.
Panelists are Rodney Martel, documentary film maker, Bradley Prager, Professor Univ. of Missouri, Sheer Ganor, Visiting Professor Univ. of Minnesota. Details of the program can be found at MNJGS.org under Events. Walter Elias
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Sherri Bobish
Jay, Do you know Simon and Lena's original first names? That may help you to find their passenger manifests. I have a LEVY branch, and I know how tough it can be to search a common surname. Please keep us posted. Regards, Sherri Bobish
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Re: Family of Jenny Rosenstein, Neustadt am Rübenberge
#germany
Sherri Bobish
Christiane Try searching this way at Ancestry.com Put ROSENSTEIN in the surname box. Put Neutstadt in the keyword box. You will get 106 hits. If you do not have an Ancestry subscription than check if your local public library offers it. Regards, Sherri Bobish
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Re: Resources for Jewish Refugees who went to Uruguay
#lodz
Adam Turner
Hello Leon,
A question for you - where does this document come from? The same passenger list is indexed at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ZXSF-K8T2 , but the color of the document is very different than what you've uploaded, suggesting that you might have found it somewhere other than the FamilySearch index. I am mainly curious because I am trying to find possible arrival manifests for my family that went to Uruguay (surname TURNIANSKY - brothers Israel and Menachem, and possibly their parents Beila Henia and Hersch Leib). While I found what I think is likely a departure manifest for Beila Henia from 1931 in FamilySearch, I couldn't find any of their arrivals (almost certainly from before 1930). Is there another source that shows Montevideo passenger lists from the 1910s and 1920s online besides FamilySearch? Adam Turner
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Re: Minsk gubernia town - Chuty, Huta or Choota
#belarus
There is also the town of Kuty in Galicia.
http://jgaliciabukovina.net/110749/community/kuty Jack Nathanson Montreal
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