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Re: Minsk Jewish names, #names #belarus

bobmalakoff@...
 

Lev Girschov Malachosky(1884-1915) the husband of my 2nd great-aunt would have disagreed with him.  His father's name was Girsch.

Bob Malakoff
Pittsburgh, PA


Re: This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #poland

harveyrw@...
 

Once we clicked on the url it used to bring up the Yizkor book page. For example, the Yizkor book of Wyszkow.. Now clicking k brings up a general information page on Yizkor books. How do i read the Wyszkow book extract?

Harvey Weisthal
harveyrw@...
Stoughton M


Re: Potok Zloty cemetery project-link correction #ukraine

janllb@...
 

Link does not appear to be correct. 404, page not found etc. Please repost so we can try again. Thanks!! 
--
Jan Lastman, Toronto ON CANADA  janllb@...

Researching: LASTMAN/N HOLLAND=>Lublin early 1700s; mid-1800s=>POLAND: Łódź, Radom, Warsaw, Szydlowiec, Ostrowiec; GERMANY: Leipzig, Breslau. Married KLAJMAN, KAUFMAN, LEDERMAN, KAC, CUKIER, MANDELSBERG (to DAVIDSON), STROSBERG, WAJCHANDLER, KUTNER/KUTCHINSKY=> Toronto, Philadelphia, Rio de Janeiro pre/post WWI. Survivors=> France, Israel, Australia, Sweden, USA
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Also researching: SINGER/ZYNGIER POLAND: Janow Poldaski=>Toronto, ?Columbus OH? pre WW1 married SCHAFER/SHAFIR UKRAINE: Linitz/Illinits=>Toronto, Detroit, NYC 
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See also: Rapoport-Quint Tree
 https://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-69044942/rapoport-quint


Lower East Side, 1902 #usa #general

Scott D. Seligman
 

If you have female ancestors from Russia or Eastern Europe who were living on the Lower East Side of Manhattan in 1902, there’s a good chance they participated in the community-wide kosher meat boycott in that year. When the price of kosher meat went up 50% in a matter of weeks, many Jewish women took to the streets and stopped buying meat entirely as a means to get prices down. The boycott lasted for weeks and was effective, although there was attendant violence. Scholars have known about this uprising for many years; it marked the dawn of female Jewish activism in America. But I have just published what I believe is the first book-length account of the events and their causes. 

 

What I have learned about Jewish genealogical research over the years was immeasurably helpful in my research; in addition to searching English and Yiddish newspapers and immigration, census and vital records, I traced and contacted descendants of several of the leaders, including Sarah Zimmerman Edelson, Catherine Zeisler Schatzberg, Sara Zucker Cohn and Paulina Wachs Finkel, for stories and photographs. I’ll be giving virtual talks about the book beginning December 1. If you’d like to learn more about the boycott and see the schedule of book talks, please visit www.greatkoshermeatwar.com


Re: King David Cemetery, Queens #usa

Renee Steinig
 

Unfortunately, Beth David does not have an online database. 

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...


On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 3:05 PM Diane Jacobs <geniediane@...> wrote:
Beth David like other cemetery databases is not always correct. I found a grave there and when I checked the online database this person was not there. I called their office and they did a card check, found him and added him into their database.

Diane Jacobs
PS: You can do an online search by name and also by society. By society, all those listed will come up. 

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From: goldnerjeff <goldner_jeff@...>
Date: 11/21/20 10:23 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] King David Cemetery, Queens #usa

Did you call the cemetery office at Beth David? We found a number of relatives buried in NY cemeteries who did not show up in online searches.


Re: King David Cemetery, Queens #usa

Gary Gershfield
 

There is also a King David(s) Benevolent Society at the Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn. I am familiar with this burial society. It was formerly the David Lodge #5, which was part of defunct fraternal organization, called Kesher Shel Barzel.

There is a small file, on the Davids Benevolent Society, on microfilm at the Center for Jewish History.

Gary Gershfield

Forest Hills, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Turner <adam.d.turner@...>
To: main@...
Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2020 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] King David Cemetery, Queens #usa

It it possible that they confused the name of the cemetery with the name of the burial society in whose section they are buried within a larger cemetery? My ancestors are buried in the Crown of David Sick and Benevolent Association section of Mount Zion Cemetery in Queens; it appears this burial society also purchased sections of other Queens cemeteries (Montefiore, Mount Carmel, etc.).

Adam Turner 


Re: Can anyone help me identify this couple from FERRAMONTI INTERNMENT CAMP ITALY 1943? #austria-czech #germany #hungary #israel #slovakia

Sherri Bobish
 


Yolanda,

Perhaps this database of Ferramonti di Tarsia internees will be helpful in your search.
https://collections.arolsen-archives.org/en/archive/1-1-14-1_30000/?p=1&doc_id=459167

Also, this database of Ferramonti di Tarsia internees.
https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?SourceId=22412

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: King David Cemetery, Queens #usa

elcookie@...
 

Perhaps you are looking for  a Society that is called The King David Abe Koser Benevolent Society, That society is located at both Mt Lebanon Cemetery in Queens, and at Old Montifiore Cemetery in Queens, The Old Montifiore Cemetery has a few different locations for the King David Society.  Mt. Lebanon Cemetery has one location for that society. 

Both have cemeteries have on line locators/finders to find burials.

Hope this helps.

Elayne Block


Re: King David Cemetery, Queens #usa

Diane Jacobs
 

Beth David like other cemetery databases is not always correct. I found a grave there and when I checked the online database this person was not there. I called their office and they did a card check, found him and added him into their database.

Diane Jacobs
PS: You can do an online search by name and also by society. By society, all those listed will come up. 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: goldnerjeff <goldner_jeff@...>
Date: 11/21/20 10:23 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] King David Cemetery, Queens #usa

Did you call the cemetery office at Beth David? We found a number of relatives buried in NY cemeteries who did not show up in online searches.
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Jeff Goldner
Researching Goldner, Singer, Neuman, Braun, Schwartz, Gluck, Reichfeld (Hungary/Slovakia); Adler, Roth, Ader (Galicia); Soltz/Shultz/Zuckerman/Zicherman (Vitebsk, maybe Lithuania)
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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: King David Cemetery, Queens #usa

Peter Cohen
 

Another possibility is King Solomon Memorial Park in Clifton, New Jersey. Not in Queens, but over time, people's memories become faulty.
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Peter Cohen
California


Re: King David Cemetery, Queens #usa

Sherri Bobish
 


Gail,

If he confused the name of the society with the name of the cemetery, here are a few possibilities found at: 
https://jgsny.org/searchable-databases/burial-society-databases/burialsoc-joodb

Beth Moses King David Lodge #26 FSI New York NY US  
Montefiore King David Abe Koser Benevolent Society Inc.        
Montefiore King David Abe Koser Inc.        
Mt. Hebron King David Association       Kaydee Association;Inc (guess same)
Mt. Hebron King David Lodge #26 FSI New York NY US  
Mt. Judah King David Abe Koser Benevolent Society Inc.        
Mt. Lebanon/New Mt. Lebanon (NJ) King David Lodge #431 IOOF (post)        
Riverside (Saddle Brook) King David Lodge #26 FSI New York NY US  
Washington (B'klyn) King David Lodge #26 FSI New York NY US

You can search some NYC area cemetery databases on-line at:
http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/erc-scdb.htm
Some cemeteries allow search by name and/or society, and some by name only.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Connecting The Dots-My Jewish Ancestry #israel #records #names #france

ccelaynarose3@...
 

Let me start by saying that I have lots of questions about Jewish ancestry. My basic questions are how do I fit in and how do I "connect the dots" on those missing years between immigration and conversion (or Crypto Jewish culture)? I was brought "knowing" that I was a Sicilian (Mother) and French (Father) 2nd generation female. As an adult, I wanted to know more about my family so I started doing genealogy about 30 yrs ago. I focused on my husbands side until just recently. That's when it started to get interesting.

I found that my mother's Sicilian family had a hug falling out at the beginning of the 20th century which is why I don't know much about them.  I decided that it would be best to get a DNA test to see if that would help fill in the gaps. Well, it did yield some surprises. Apparently, besides being predominantly Sicilian and French, there is another small percentage being listed as other, which some sites list as Belgium while others list as Iberian peninsula area. Since I am still researching my Sicilian ancestors, i have not found the point of immigration but I have found that there are Jewish/Sicilian surnames/culture in our family. We have names like Catalano, Rubbino, Amato...which I am still researching. I have found  Crypto Jewish families with those surnames but have not yet "connected the dots". 

Additionally, on my father's side, I found that my 10th g grandmother has a surname of David. The David lineage can be traced back to King David, BCE. I have verification back to 1150 AD and then 590 AD-King David. The reason there are records from 590 was that Hanani David was an Exilarch of the Jews in Babylon that year. Being the big guy meant that he got his name in the annals of Jewish history I guess. Also, on my father's side, my 8th g grandmother is said to have come from Israel but I cannot find any verificattion. Perhaps the family was CryptoJewish...

In a nutshell, these are my questions:

  • How do I fit in-on both sides of my parentage, it appears that I have Jewish roots. Since I am at least 4 generations out on my mother's side and 8-10 generations out on my fathers, how does that affect my Jewish ancestry? I realize that there are different ways to look at "Jewishness".  I'm speaking purely ethnically/culturally. 
  • How do I "connect the dots"- What do I look for and what types of records do I look for to fill in the gaps in my research? For example. My 4th g grandmother on my mother's side was a Rubbino. She is no one's daughter in Sicily or Italy. I'm trying to expand my search but I don't know where to start. I only know her as someones wife and can prove that. No birth record or death record as of yet.

Well, any leads or suggestions are welcome. I am hoping that my Jewish ancestry can also become part of my heritage as well.

--
Connie Derosier Carter
Kissimmee, FL, Leominster, MA


Re: Hebrew translation request #translation

kassells@...
 

I'd like to bring two corrections to what was already translated. 

The second name of the groom is Tzvi. 
The date mentioned is on the back of the document  relating maybe to when a copy of the original document was done. This does not seem to be an original ketubah, since it is lacking signatures. 

Inside the document, the date of the wedding is written as Wednesday 2nd Kislev 5662= November 13 1901 . 
Additionally the ketubah has the name of the place of the wedding, that I read as Harkhov, maybe referring to a place in Ukraine. 
Does this fit in the family story?

At the end of the ketuba, the names of the two witnesses are mentioned :
Abraham followed by a name I am not sure of and by the position of the witness as cantor of the local community. 
Abraham son of the deceased rabbi Aharon. 

Best regards  

Laurent Kassel 
Moreshet, Israel 


Re: Young Galician boys forced labor for Russian army during FIRST World War #galicia

Andrea Tzadik
 

ubject: Re: Young Galician boys forced labor for Russian army during FIRST World War #galicia
My Grandfather was 16 when the Russians came through and destroyed his Shtetle of Knyhnicze Ukraine.
They took all the men and boys from their Shtetle as well as those of the surrounding towns to Russia
to workcamps. They took his Grandfather, a Rabbi, 61 years old, and his cousin who was 6 years old.
They made them all walk to Kiev and from there they put them on trains to the workcamps.
In 1917 they came back to Tarnow where they stayed until 1918 when they were allowed to return to their
Shtetle.
Andrea Tzadik


Re: Margolioth/Margulies rabbinic family from Galicia #rabbinic #galicia

Marion Bank
 

I don't know if this is helpful but there is a rabbinic family tree that can be found at JewishEncyclopedia.com and goes back to Posen in the 1500's. It does not go beyond the mid 1800's.
In my mother's family tree I have Rabbi Samuel Hirsch Margulis (1858-1922). He was chief Rabbi in Florence, Italy, and there is a lot of information about him. My mother actually met him on a number of occasions in Berlin, where she lived.
I would be interested in finding out if there is any relationship between him and the people that you are researching. Apparently the name of Rabbi Samuel's ancestors was spelled Margolioth, but I have no names other than his wife, Recha Rosenthal Margulies, my mother's aunt.
Marion Bank
Corte Madera, CA
mbank15@...


Re: King David Cemetery, Queens #usa

 

Did you call the cemetery office at Beth David? We found a number of relatives buried in NY cemeteries who did not show up in online searches.
--
Jeff Goldner
Researching Goldner, Singer, Neuman, Braun, Schwartz, Gluck, Reichfeld (Hungary/Slovakia); Adler, Roth, Ader (Galicia); Soltz/Shultz/Zuckerman/Zicherman (Vitebsk, maybe Lithuania)


Re: King David Cemetery, Queens #usa

mpipik
 

It might be Beth David which is just over the city line in Elmont, Nassau County.

Jessica Schein
NY, NY


looking for information regarding a French cousin - Frédérique ( or Frédéric ) Sternberg #france #records

Aline Petzold
 

Hello All:
 I am looking for information about my father's oldest brother's child, Frédérique, or Frédéric Sternberg.  I know that my father's oldest brother, Daniel ( aka Nilou) Sternberg was born in Stefanesti or Botosani Romania in1898.  I know that he emigrated to France  and was naturalized in 1947.  I also know that he married a French girl, Denise Gratienne Levallois.  I know that they had a son or daughter Frédéric/que  in the mid or late 1950s.  I would love to find more details about this family, i.e. the date of Daniel and Gratienne's marriage,  if Daniel and Gratienne died in France ( and if so where and when) and lastly, whether their child was a son or daughter and when the child was born.  I have tried to find this information in the French Archives, but they are difficult to navigate ( even with my fluent knowledge of French) since I have no idea of the arrondissment they lived in.  I am hoping to be able to contact my French cousin if he/she is still living.
Thanks for your help.
Aline Petzold
St. Paul MN


Tombstone photo request #romania

Daniel Horowitz
 

Hi, 
I am in need of a tombstone picture from the New Jewish Cemetery in Bucharest, Romania (Giurgiuli Cemetery, Giurgiuli St. 162)
I have the exact location of the burial. Contact me privately.

Many thanks in advance
Daniel Horowitz
Daniel@...


Stanley Diamonds lecture of DNA assisted genealogy #dna

Rosalind
 

It would be wonderful if Stanley would allow us to read  a transcript of his lecture.

It is very difficult to catch anything in real time from USA to Israel, because it means being up at strange brain free hours of our night.

As one of his many admirers I would really love to learn some more from him.

Ros Romem

Jerusalem


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