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(US) TLC Announces New Season for Who Do You Think You Are Starting March 5 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Learning Channel (TLC) announced the celebrities to be featured on the
new season of Who Do You Think You Are (US). Eight new one-hour episodes
will premiere on Sunday March 5th at 10 /9PM.

The celebrities include Jennifer Grey and Jessica Biel, whose Jewish
ancestry will be explored.

The TLC website for Who Do You Think You Are for the new season is:
http://tinyurl.com/jg5ncxc
Original url:
https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/who-do-you-think-you-are/videos/get-a-first-look-at-the-seventh-season-of-who-do-you-think-you-are

To read more see: http://tinyurl.com/h6o9g4b
Original url:
http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/article/TLC-Reveals-New-Celebrity-Contributors-for-WHO-DO-YOU-THINK-YOU-ARE-20170215#

I have no affiliation with either TLC or Ancestry.com, the program sponsor,
and am posting this solely for the interest of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US) TLC Announces New Season for Who Do You Think You Are Starting March 5 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Learning Channel (TLC) announced the celebrities to be featured on the
new season of Who Do You Think You Are (US). Eight new one-hour episodes
will premiere on Sunday March 5th at 10 /9PM.

The celebrities include Jennifer Grey and Jessica Biel, whose Jewish
ancestry will be explored.

The TLC website for Who Do You Think You Are for the new season is:
http://tinyurl.com/jg5ncxc
Original url:
https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/who-do-you-think-you-are/videos/get-a-first-look-at-the-seventh-season-of-who-do-you-think-you-are

To read more see: http://tinyurl.com/h6o9g4b
Original url:
http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/article/TLC-Reveals-New-Celebrity-Contributors-for-WHO-DO-YOU-THINK-YOU-ARE-20170215#

I have no affiliation with either TLC or Ancestry.com, the program sponsor,
and am posting this solely for the interest of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Photography studios in the Pale of Settlement #general

Lewis, Megan
 

As it happens the latest issue of the Belarusian Review, which just
came out, has an article on the Jewish photographers of the Mahiliou
region, which includes Mogilev. This issue is a special issue
focusing on Belarusian Jews. Other articles of possible interest to
this group include an article on Jewish agricultural colonies in
Belarus and Ukraine in the 19th and 20th centuries and an article on
"Mobility as a phenomenon of Jewish culture n the Belarusian part of
Jewish Pale of Settlement >from the end of the 18th to the beginning
of the 20th century"

The journal is freely available at
http://thepointjournal.com/fa/library/breview-sji.pdf

Megan Lewis
Reference Librarian
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
www.ushmm.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Photography studios in the Pale of Settlement #general

Lewis, Megan
 

As it happens the latest issue of the Belarusian Review, which just
came out, has an article on the Jewish photographers of the Mahiliou
region, which includes Mogilev. This issue is a special issue
focusing on Belarusian Jews. Other articles of possible interest to
this group include an article on Jewish agricultural colonies in
Belarus and Ukraine in the 19th and 20th centuries and an article on
"Mobility as a phenomenon of Jewish culture n the Belarusian part of
Jewish Pale of Settlement >from the end of the 18th to the beginning
of the 20th century"

The journal is freely available at
http://thepointjournal.com/fa/library/breview-sji.pdf

Megan Lewis
Reference Librarian
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
www.ushmm.org


Pavlovo, Czechoslovakia - US Holocaust Memorial Museum #general

Lande
 

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum has posted the names of 167 Jews
resident in Pavlovo, Czechoslovakia who perished in the Holocaust. The
names and information can be found at the Museum's website under Holocaust
Survivors and Victims Database.

Peter Lande
Washington, D.C.

MODERATOR NOTE: Access the USHMM website at https://www.ushmm.org/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pavlovo, Czechoslovakia - US Holocaust Memorial Museum #general

Lande
 

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum has posted the names of 167 Jews
resident in Pavlovo, Czechoslovakia who perished in the Holocaust. The
names and information can be found at the Museum's website under Holocaust
Survivors and Victims Database.

Peter Lande
Washington, D.C.

MODERATOR NOTE: Access the USHMM website at https://www.ushmm.org/


Viewmate VM53460 - Polish Translation #galicia

Sarah Silberston <sarahsilb@...>
 

Hello,

I'd be grateful for a translation of my grandmother, Sara Rubinstein's
birth record. It's in Polish. It's the bottom entry on the page. The link is

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM53460

Thanking you in advance,

Sarah Silberston

Researching SILBERSTON/SHAKHNOVICH (Kletsk, Belarus);
LENZ, MORGENTHAL (Buchach, Ukraine); RUBINSTEIN, BAUMWALD
(Zadworze, Zloczow, Poland); FREY (Nowy Targ, Poland);
BLASENSTEIN (Tarnobrzeg, Poland).


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Viewmate VM53460 - Polish Translation #galicia

Sarah Silberston <sarahsilb@...>
 

Hello,

I'd be grateful for a translation of my grandmother, Sara Rubinstein's
birth record. It's in Polish. It's the bottom entry on the page. The link is

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM53460

Thanking you in advance,

Sarah Silberston

Researching SILBERSTON/SHAKHNOVICH (Kletsk, Belarus);
LENZ, MORGENTHAL (Buchach, Ukraine); RUBINSTEIN, BAUMWALD
(Zadworze, Zloczow, Poland); FREY (Nowy Targ, Poland);
BLASENSTEIN (Tarnobrzeg, Poland).


Fradel MESSINGER'S birth record #galicia

Shelley Mitchell
 

Katie Sobol questioned where her grandmother was born: Sokal or Brody?

In JRI, there is a Fradel born to Isaac Messinger and Malka Biber in 1877 in
Sokal but it also shows that Malka was >from Brody. Two other children are
listed as born to them: Feige and Wolf. Both are listed in the Sokal records
showing the mother's hometown of Brody. So while she was technically
born in Sokal, she associated herself with her mother's hometown of Brody.

Shelley Mitchell

searching for TERNER, KONIGSBERG, MOLDAUER, GOLDSCHEIN,
SCHONFELD - Kolomyja/Kolomea area. TOPF - Radautz area.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Fradel MESSINGER'S birth record #galicia

Shelley Mitchell
 

Katie Sobol questioned where her grandmother was born: Sokal or Brody?

In JRI, there is a Fradel born to Isaac Messinger and Malka Biber in 1877 in
Sokal but it also shows that Malka was >from Brody. Two other children are
listed as born to them: Feige and Wolf. Both are listed in the Sokal records
showing the mother's hometown of Brody. So while she was technically
born in Sokal, she associated herself with her mother's hometown of Brody.

Shelley Mitchell

searching for TERNER, KONIGSBERG, MOLDAUER, GOLDSCHEIN,
SCHONFELD - Kolomyja/Kolomea area. TOPF - Radautz area.


Re: Fradel MESSINGER'S birth record #galicia

Odeda Zlotnick
 

I am responding to the list since I often learn >from record
interpretations, and hope to learn >from other's responses.

According to the document submitted in ViewMate #53426:
a) Fradel was born on 21 May 1877 (not as Katie writes)
b) Her father was Isaac Messinger - see his signature (I see no David
in his name.)
c) Her mother's parents were Mirel and David - and the word Brody
appears after their name - it looks like David was a children's teacher
in Brody.

Given all the differences between the readings of this document, it
may be worthwhile to take another look at your grandmother's
Canadian document.

That said, It is not unheard of for people to report another year of
birth - and furthermore, our ancestors sometimes only knew the
Hebrew date of their birthday and estimated the Gregorian date.
Perhaps Fradel didn't know her exact year of birth - or wanted to
seem a younger.

21 May in 1877 was a few days after Shavuot - which can be
considered the beginning of summer. So can June 20.

This couple had other children, and their documents too state that
the father is Isaac Messinger, the mother's parents are Mirel and
David (Hersch) >from Brody. One of the other children, a boy born in
1882 is called Wolf. In all three birth registrations, the father signs
his declaration of paternity as "Isaac Messinger".

Using JRI Poland to search for the [starts with] Messing / Biber
combination shows only those three records in the database.

In order to accept Fradel's birth registration as your grandmother's,
you would have to accept her siblings, and explain satisfactorily the
discrepancy in her father's name, as well as the discrepancy in the
date of birth.

Odeda Zlotnick

Searching for: ZLOTNICK, FEIGIN in Lapich Belarus;
MENDELOWITSCH in Tomaszow Mazowietski, Poland; KULKOWER,
BLASS, BOTWIN, MELER n Lwow and Vienna; LEISEROWITZ in
Vienna and LEISEROWITZ and ZIGLER in Iassi and Cosula Romania

Katie Sobol <katies2727@gmail.com> wrote:

<<Recently I submitted a document on ViewMate #53426 >from Sokal
birth records of a Fradel, born in Sokal November of 1887, whose
parents mentioned were Isaak David MESSINGER and mother Malke
BIBER. I have a Canadian document >from 1946 that Fradel (Freda), my
maternal grandmother stated she was born in Brody June 20, 1880
and that her parents' names were Isaak David MESSINGER and...
Malke BIBER. What are the chances that what I found in birth records
from Sokal is not my grandmother? Can it be that there were other
people with the same names in other areas?>>


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: Fradel MESSINGER'S birth record #galicia

Odeda Zlotnick
 

I am responding to the list since I often learn >from record
interpretations, and hope to learn >from other's responses.

According to the document submitted in ViewMate #53426:
a) Fradel was born on 21 May 1877 (not as Katie writes)
b) Her father was Isaac Messinger - see his signature (I see no David
in his name.)
c) Her mother's parents were Mirel and David - and the word Brody
appears after their name - it looks like David was a children's teacher
in Brody.

Given all the differences between the readings of this document, it
may be worthwhile to take another look at your grandmother's
Canadian document.

That said, It is not unheard of for people to report another year of
birth - and furthermore, our ancestors sometimes only knew the
Hebrew date of their birthday and estimated the Gregorian date.
Perhaps Fradel didn't know her exact year of birth - or wanted to
seem a younger.

21 May in 1877 was a few days after Shavuot - which can be
considered the beginning of summer. So can June 20.

This couple had other children, and their documents too state that
the father is Isaac Messinger, the mother's parents are Mirel and
David (Hersch) >from Brody. One of the other children, a boy born in
1882 is called Wolf. In all three birth registrations, the father signs
his declaration of paternity as "Isaac Messinger".

Using JRI Poland to search for the [starts with] Messing / Biber
combination shows only those three records in the database.

In order to accept Fradel's birth registration as your grandmother's,
you would have to accept her siblings, and explain satisfactorily the
discrepancy in her father's name, as well as the discrepancy in the
date of birth.

Odeda Zlotnick

Searching for: ZLOTNICK, FEIGIN in Lapich Belarus;
MENDELOWITSCH in Tomaszow Mazowietski, Poland; KULKOWER,
BLASS, BOTWIN, MELER n Lwow and Vienna; LEISEROWITZ in
Vienna and LEISEROWITZ and ZIGLER in Iassi and Cosula Romania

Katie Sobol <katies2727@gmail.com> wrote:

<<Recently I submitted a document on ViewMate #53426 >from Sokal
birth records of a Fradel, born in Sokal November of 1887, whose
parents mentioned were Isaak David MESSINGER and mother Malke
BIBER. I have a Canadian document >from 1946 that Fradel (Freda), my
maternal grandmother stated she was born in Brody June 20, 1880
and that her parents' names were Isaak David MESSINGER and...
Malke BIBER. What are the chances that what I found in birth records
from Sokal is not my grandmother? Can it be that there were other
people with the same names in other areas?>>


Immigration routes from Brody #galicia

Katie Sobol <katies2727@...>
 

Does anyone know of specific routes >from Brody, Austria, now in
Ukraine, for those who immigrated to the USA or Canada before the
first World War? And is there any way I can find out other places of
immigration to other countries >from Brody? Looking for a paper trail
of ancestors, if at all possible.

I thank you in advance,

Sincerely,

Katie Sobol
researcher #9386

searching: MESSINGER, BIBER, ZOLLER and BRONSTEIN


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Immigration routes from Brody #galicia

Katie Sobol <katies2727@...>
 

Does anyone know of specific routes >from Brody, Austria, now in
Ukraine, for those who immigrated to the USA or Canada before the
first World War? And is there any way I can find out other places of
immigration to other countries >from Brody? Looking for a paper trail
of ancestors, if at all possible.

I thank you in advance,

Sincerely,

Katie Sobol
researcher #9386

searching: MESSINGER, BIBER, ZOLLER and BRONSTEIN


Re: Information on Sontai ship arriving in Haifa port from Poland in 1948 #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Thomas Klein tomk@ecologicaltech.com) wrote on 16 Feb 2017 in
soc.genealogy.jewish:

charles goldenzon <charlesgoldenzon@hotmail.com> wrote:

I obtained the passengers list of a ship that brought my great uncle
from Poland to Israel, having arrived on the Haifa port on 19th December
1948. The list indicates the ship's name as SONTAI, or perhaps SONATI.
Does anyone have information to share on this ship and what the correct
name is?
The Stephen Morse One-Step web page,
http://stevemorse.org/swiggum/fleets.html , is the easiest way to find
information about ships. If you search for ships' names beginning with
"son", you will find the Sontay, which might have been the right one.
Quote:

"From: "Moira Edge" <moira.edge@clear.net.nz>
Subject: Re: [Mariners] S.S. Sontay
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:56:42 +1200

Dennis,
The "Sontay" was built by Bremer Vulkan at Vegesack. 8,917 gross tons, 466
x 58 x 32.6 feet. Triple expansion, single screww, 10 knots. 16 passengers
plus 750 troops. 13 September 1921 completed as "Bayern" for Hamburg
America Line, one voyage to New York then Far East cargo service. 1930
Exhaust turbine added, speed 12 knots. 1936 Acquired by affiliate of
Messageries Maritimes (French) to carry Foreign Legion troops to Indo China,
renamed "Sontay".
25 February 1941, en route Tamatave - Dakar, boarded by British and taken to
Durban. Handed to Ministry of War Transport with Union Castle as managers.
1946 returned to French, used in 1947 to carry Jewish emigrants to
Palestine. 1949 Acquired by Messageries Maritimes again, resumed as Foreign
legion troopship.
1955 Sold Panamanian owners with Wheelock Marden of Hong Kong as managers,
renamed "Sunlock". 28 May 1958 arrived at Kudumatsu and broken up there in
1959 by Miyachi & Co. (Source, "Messageries Maritimes" by Duncan Haws).
Regards,
Dave Edge."

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
exjxwxhannivoortATinterxnlxnet
(Please change the x'es to dots)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Information on Sontai ship arriving in Haifa port from Poland in 1948 #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Thomas Klein tomk@ecologicaltech.com) wrote on 16 Feb 2017 in
soc.genealogy.jewish:

charles goldenzon <charlesgoldenzon@hotmail.com> wrote:

I obtained the passengers list of a ship that brought my great uncle
from Poland to Israel, having arrived on the Haifa port on 19th December
1948. The list indicates the ship's name as SONTAI, or perhaps SONATI.
Does anyone have information to share on this ship and what the correct
name is?
The Stephen Morse One-Step web page,
http://stevemorse.org/swiggum/fleets.html , is the easiest way to find
information about ships. If you search for ships' names beginning with
"son", you will find the Sontay, which might have been the right one.
Quote:

"From: "Moira Edge" <moira.edge@clear.net.nz>
Subject: Re: [Mariners] S.S. Sontay
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:56:42 +1200

Dennis,
The "Sontay" was built by Bremer Vulkan at Vegesack. 8,917 gross tons, 466
x 58 x 32.6 feet. Triple expansion, single screww, 10 knots. 16 passengers
plus 750 troops. 13 September 1921 completed as "Bayern" for Hamburg
America Line, one voyage to New York then Far East cargo service. 1930
Exhaust turbine added, speed 12 knots. 1936 Acquired by affiliate of
Messageries Maritimes (French) to carry Foreign Legion troops to Indo China,
renamed "Sontay".
25 February 1941, en route Tamatave - Dakar, boarded by British and taken to
Durban. Handed to Ministry of War Transport with Union Castle as managers.
1946 returned to French, used in 1947 to carry Jewish emigrants to
Palestine. 1949 Acquired by Messageries Maritimes again, resumed as Foreign
legion troopship.
1955 Sold Panamanian owners with Wheelock Marden of Hong Kong as managers,
renamed "Sunlock". 28 May 1958 arrived at Kudumatsu and broken up there in
1959 by Miyachi & Co. (Source, "Messageries Maritimes" by Duncan Haws).
Regards,
Dave Edge."

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
exjxwxhannivoortATinterxnlxnet
(Please change the x'es to dots)


Re: h-sig digest: February 16, 2017 #hungary

smartlines@...
 

Moderator: Once again, I must remind everyone to PLEASE make sure to include a substantive
subject line.
----------------------------------------------------------------

My guess is also one of the Homorod villages in Transylvania. I shall =
send a
tabel with possible options >from the excellent Transindex site to Laura
directly (text format does not support tables).
Andras Hirschler

-----Original Message-----


1. Re: challenge researching Hungarian town name

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Subject: Re: challenge researching Hungarian town name
From: ethnoca@yahoo.ca
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:27:20 +0000 (UTC)
X-Message-Number: 1


=20
"Man's mind stretched to a new idea never goes back to its original
dimensions."
- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Could it possibly be Homorod Remete? =20

https://www.google.ca/#q=3Dhomorodremete

Sarah Feuerstein
Troronto, Canada


Subject: challenge researching Hungarian town name
From: lpennycuff@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:22:05 +0000 (UTC)
X-Message-Number: 1

I am researching relatives who are known to be >from the area that was
Hungary in the mid/late 1800s. The problem is the town name I've found =
in
American documents (Homoro Brenner) don't seem to match with town names =
I
can find on the RadixHub Hungarian Gazetteers or other places such as =
the
JewishGen website. The closest I can seem to find to something that =
looks
like Homoro Brenner is Hommona, Hungary (now Humenne, Slovakia). Yet I =
have
not found any evidence >from the 1869 Hungarian Census to indicate that
anyone with the family name lived there. Does anyone have any ideas on =
other
resources I could use to look for a similar sounding town name, or =
better
yet, has anyone heard of Homoro Brenner itself as a town in pre-1900
Hungary? Fine to email me privately with information.=20

Laura Pennycuff, lpennycuff@yahoo.com=20


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: h-sig digest: February 16, 2017 #hungary

smartlines@...
 

Moderator: Once again, I must remind everyone to PLEASE make sure to include a substantive
subject line.
----------------------------------------------------------------

My guess is also one of the Homorod villages in Transylvania. I shall =
send a
tabel with possible options >from the excellent Transindex site to Laura
directly (text format does not support tables).
Andras Hirschler

-----Original Message-----


1. Re: challenge researching Hungarian town name

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Subject: Re: challenge researching Hungarian town name
From: ethnoca@yahoo.ca
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:27:20 +0000 (UTC)
X-Message-Number: 1


=20
"Man's mind stretched to a new idea never goes back to its original
dimensions."
- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Could it possibly be Homorod Remete? =20

https://www.google.ca/#q=3Dhomorodremete

Sarah Feuerstein
Troronto, Canada


Subject: challenge researching Hungarian town name
From: lpennycuff@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:22:05 +0000 (UTC)
X-Message-Number: 1

I am researching relatives who are known to be >from the area that was
Hungary in the mid/late 1800s. The problem is the town name I've found =
in
American documents (Homoro Brenner) don't seem to match with town names =
I
can find on the RadixHub Hungarian Gazetteers or other places such as =
the
JewishGen website. The closest I can seem to find to something that =
looks
like Homoro Brenner is Hommona, Hungary (now Humenne, Slovakia). Yet I =
have
not found any evidence >from the 1869 Hungarian Census to indicate that
anyone with the family name lived there. Does anyone have any ideas on =
other
resources I could use to look for a similar sounding town name, or =
better
yet, has anyone heard of Homoro Brenner itself as a town in pre-1900
Hungary? Fine to email me privately with information.=20

Laura Pennycuff, lpennycuff@yahoo.com=20


Re: challenge researching Hungarian town name #hungary

annmajor@...
 

Moderator: Once again, I must remind everyone to PLEASE make sure to include a substantive
subject line.

Sounds very much like Homorodremete, today Calugereni in Romania.



1. Re: challenge researching Hungarian town name

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Subject: Re: challenge researching Hungarian town name
From: ethnoca@yahoo.ca
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:27:20 +0000 (UTC)
X-Message-Number: 1


=20
"Man's mind stretched to a new idea never goes back to its original
dimensions."
- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Could it possibly be Homorod Remete? =20

https://www.google.ca/#q=3Dhomorodremete

Sarah Feuerstein
Troronto, Canada


Subject: challenge researching Hungarian town name
From: lpennycuff@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:22:05 +0000 (UTC)
X-Message-Number: 1

I am researching relatives who are known to be >from the area that was
Hungary in the
mid/late 1800s. The problem is the town name I've found in American
documents=20
(Homoro Brenner) don't seem to match with town names I can find on the
RadixHub=20
Hungarian Gazetteers or other places such as the JewishGen website. The
closest I=20
can seem to find to something that looks like Homoro Brenner is Hommona,
Hungary =20
(now Humenne, Slovakia). Yet I have not found any evidence >from the 1869
Hungarian=20
Census to indicate that anyone with the family name lived there. Does =
anyone
have=20
any ideas on other resources I could use to look for a similar sounding =
town
name,=20
or better yet, has anyone heard of Homoro Brenner itself as a town in
pre-1900=20
Hungary? Fine to email me privately with information.=20

Laura Pennycuff, lpennycuff@yahoo.com=20


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: challenge researching Hungarian town name #hungary

annmajor@...
 

Moderator: Once again, I must remind everyone to PLEASE make sure to include a substantive
subject line.

Sounds very much like Homorodremete, today Calugereni in Romania.



1. Re: challenge researching Hungarian town name

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Subject: Re: challenge researching Hungarian town name
From: ethnoca@yahoo.ca
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:27:20 +0000 (UTC)
X-Message-Number: 1


=20
"Man's mind stretched to a new idea never goes back to its original
dimensions."
- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Could it possibly be Homorod Remete? =20

https://www.google.ca/#q=3Dhomorodremete

Sarah Feuerstein
Troronto, Canada


Subject: challenge researching Hungarian town name
From: lpennycuff@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:22:05 +0000 (UTC)
X-Message-Number: 1

I am researching relatives who are known to be >from the area that was
Hungary in the
mid/late 1800s. The problem is the town name I've found in American
documents=20
(Homoro Brenner) don't seem to match with town names I can find on the
RadixHub=20
Hungarian Gazetteers or other places such as the JewishGen website. The
closest I=20
can seem to find to something that looks like Homoro Brenner is Hommona,
Hungary =20
(now Humenne, Slovakia). Yet I have not found any evidence >from the 1869
Hungarian=20
Census to indicate that anyone with the family name lived there. Does =
anyone
have=20
any ideas on other resources I could use to look for a similar sounding =
town
name,=20
or better yet, has anyone heard of Homoro Brenner itself as a town in
pre-1900=20
Hungary? Fine to email me privately with information.=20

Laura Pennycuff, lpennycuff@yahoo.com=20

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