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Re: Looking for Gussie Deutsch #usa

Michele Lock
 

You could request the death certificate for Gussie Deutsch from the NY City department of Health, but i believe that a person needs to be a direct descendent of the deceased to do so.

You might have better luck requesting the marriage license for the couple, and the 1901 birth certificate for the first child Helen, from the Luzerne PA county courthouse/Register of Wills-Clerk of the Orphan Court. Though with the pandemic going on, that might take longer to be processed. Those would have the maiden name of Gussie Deutsch, and possibly her birthplace:

https://www.luzernecounty.org/614/Register-of-Wills


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Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Minsk gub., Belarus


Re: Looking for Gussie Deutsch #usa

Michele Lock
 

From FamilySearch (via SteveMorse.org), here is the record extract for the marriage of daughter Thelma Deutsch in 1931, which gives Gussie's maiden name as Thirman:

Name: Charles Friedberg
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Jun 1931
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Event Place (Original): Manhattan, New York, New York
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1903
Birthplace: New York City
Father's Name: Harris Friedberg
Mother's Name: Celia Neuwirth
Spouse's Name: Thelma Deutsch
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 25
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1906
Spouse's Birthplace: Hazelton, Penn.
Spouse's Father's Name: Daniel Deutsch
Spouse's Mother's Name: Gussie Thirman

Reference ID: cn 15014
GS Film Number: 1684265

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24D4-38D

 

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Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Minsk gub., Belarus


SCHWARZSCHILD family of Kassel Germany--fate of children? #germany #holocaust

Melody Schloss
 

I am attempting to find what happened to the siblings of my husband’s great grandmother during/after the War. My husband’s great grandmother was Johanne SCHWARZSCHILD SEEMANN (15 Sep 1872 Kassel GER-31 Mar 1943). She was married to Moritz SEEMANN and they both perished in Theresienstadt Ghetto. One sister, Terese Sophie, survived after the War. I do not know about any of the others. I have some information on the family. I am hoping that someone has information I have not found.

The family is as follows:
Parents:
Moritz SCHWARZSCHILD (6Jan1837 Hanau GER-27Nov1892 Kassel GER) and Hedwig BACHARACH(23Aug1843 Mansbach GER-27Nov1892 Kassel GER) married 7Jun1864 (Bad)Nauheim GER
Children:
Fanny SCHWARZSCHILD (f) b1867 Kassel
Sally/Salomon SCHWARZSCHILD (m) b 9Jan1870 Kassel married Bettina Pauline SICHEL 1901 Würzburg GER
Hugo SCHWARZSCHILD (m) b 1871 Kassel
Johanne SCHWARZSCHILD (f) 15Sep1872 Kassel-31Mar1943 Thereseienstadt Ghetto married Moritz SEEMANN 21Mar1894 Kassel GERM
Mathilde SCHWARZSCHILD (f) b 1873 Kassel
Teresa Sophie SCHWARZSCHILD (f) 1875 Kassel-9Mar1960 London married Julius CORNELIUS 11Sep1899 Rotenburg an der Fulda Hessen GERM children: Ellen and Ott Heinz/Henry
Rosa SCHWARZSCHILD (f) married Adalbert STEFFTER child:Edith

Regards
Melody Bredbenner Schloss
California USA


Re: Samuel Unger Family from Bielsko-Biala and Kamesznica,Zywiec, Poland #poland #galicia

Sam G.
 

Highly recommend Jacek Proszyk as a resource.   He was able to dig up my grandfather's 1894 school records from the Skotschau Volksschule.
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-Amnon Gronner, USA
Researching GRONNER SANDLER


Re: Atlantic City, New Jersey - Looking for Ann and Bertha Friedman #records #usa #events

Lee Jaffe
 

My Atlantic City family is buried in Rodef Sholem cemetery in Cardiff County.  I searched via FindAGrave; there  are a lot of Friedmans but no Bertha or Ann.

Lee Jaffe


Sharon E Siegel
 

I am pretty new to posting here and hoping I have hastags and format correct.
A promise made to my late mother-in-law has taken me on an eye-opening and so inspiring, but heartbreaking, heart-wrenching journey of understanding and desire to know all we can about the experiences that brought Anna Iglicka Rzezak Siegel and Israel Rzezak Siegel together and able to survive unimaginable horrs that took the lives of dozens of their loved ones -- nearly their entire families murdered by the time they made it back to their pre-war hometowns.

We have videos of both Izzy and Annie, and notes and some documents. We are retracing their lives and doing extensive research.

We are looking for any tips for direction in reaching out for the following:

Anna Iglicka Rzezak Siegel's family in Lodz or Zdunska Wola.  Her father Shlomo Iglicki was a rabbi.  Her mother Rosa Pakentregger Iglicka  was a housewife.  Anna was the youngest of six children.  Her father told her she was young and could run as Nazi's invaded. She reluctantly did, still as a teen and alone.  She eventually boarded a train to Siberia and was put to work in a logging camp.   When the pact was signed releasing work camp detainees, she made her way by boat to Russian farms and contacted diseases, lost a baby, and learned that all but a brother had been killed while she was away.

Israel Rzezak Siegel was drafted to the Polish and then Russian Armies.  He left his hometown of Lodz, a wife and two young children.  He unknowingly was on the same train that his future wife was on to Siberian logging camp, and then the boat through Russia. They never met until they were off the boat and on the farms and towns in Russia.  Izzy learned that his wife and first two children were murdered, just like Annie's family.

Both managed to get to America on the Marine Perch, where my husband and two younger sons were born.

I have documents and some facts, not enough.

Can anyone advise how to get birth certificates, death certificates, and records from military and work camp detention in Siberian logging camp, and anything else that could help?

Thank you so much for anything you can do to help us. Stanley B. and Sharon E. Siegel, Port Jervis, NY USA


Re: Looking for Gussie Deutsch #usa

Sherri Bobish
 


David,

Gussie DEUTSCH passed on in 1970.  Both Gussie & Daniel are at Mt. Zion with a society named Auerbach.  The Mt. Zion databases is searchable by surname alone, by surname & society name, and by society name alone.
http://www.mountzioncemetery.com/search.asp?type=interment

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Finding Prague marriage record #austria-czech

LarryBassist@...
 

A relative said their ancestors were married in Prague in the "Embassy" shortly after the formation of the Czech Republic after WWI. Their child was born in Feb 1922 so that would make the marriage between October 1918 and about June 1921. She stated that the marriage certificate was numbered 1. That caused some trouble later in Romania when they went there because the officials did not believe there was a certificate numbered 1. Bride: Gertrud (also called Trude) Herrnheiser from Prague. Groom: Adolf Barta from Arad, Romania.

How can I find the marriage record? And, what could the "Embassy" have been?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Larry Bassist
Springville, Utah, USA


Partial Family Emigration #lithuania

Sheldon Clare
 

From: Sheldon Clare <clare15905@...>
To: "main@..." <main@...>
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 09:46:01 -0700
Subject: Re: When only part of the family emigrates to the US
My father was the oldest of 7. He arrived in the US from Lithuania in 1912. When the rest of the family wanted to emigrate, the US said NO!! They went to Argentina and my father never saw them again.
 
Sheldon Clare


Re: Looking for Gussie Deutsch #usa

Sherri Bobish
 


David,

Daniel DEUTSCH passed on 14 Nov 1936.  Some info from his death cert is transcribed at FamilySearch.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WPF-9G9

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Seeking KAVARSKY Descendants #lithuania #unitedkingdom

Jeffrey Gandz
 

 

I’d like to make contact with any descendants of Morris and Fanny KAVARSKY who emigrated from Vilna to Leeds, UK around 1880.  They subsequently moved to Prestwich, Lancashire and lived on Bury New Rd for many years.

 

Fanny KAVARSKY

was my grandmother’s sister.

 

Morris snd Fanny had a two sons, Joe(l) - who was killed in action in WW1 -and Jacob as well as daughters, Gerty (m. KAPLAN) and Annie.  

 

Fanny KAVARSKY

was my grandmother’s sister.

 

If you know of any living descendants of Morris and Fanny - or are one yourself - please contact me at jgandz@...

 

Thank you,

 

Jeffrey GANDZ


Re: Atlantic City, New Jersey - Looking for Ann and Bertha Friedman #records #usa #events

Cheryl Durham
 

Where is he buried? I am 45 min. North of AD. I might be able to find out more about him.
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Cheryl A. Durham

drcdurham@...


Ezekiel in Poland #poland #records

relly800@...
 

My aunt Hinda(?) FELD born in Dobrzyn nad Wisla in 1899(?) married a Zekiel.  In post war documents from the UK her birth year is given as 1910 and name as Nina.  I have no information about her husband besides the last name, from her UK documents.  He may have been her second husband and every indication is that he died in the war.  

Anyone searching Zekiel that can shed light on the connection? 

Thanks
Relly Coleman
FELD Dobrzyn nad Wisla, Zakroczym


Re: Looking for Louis Rutledge and Anna nee Goldstein West Virginia and Ohio and New York #general #usa

Renee Steinig
 

Searching the Mount Zion website (mountzioncemetery.com) for "R" name in the Zabludower section brings up Louis Rotkowitz and Anna Rutledge:

Louis Rotkowitz - buried 9 Apr 1933
(Death record: Louis Rutkovege, age 65. Died 8 April 1933 Brooklyn. Wife Anna.)

Anna Rutledge - buried 17 Oct 1954
(Death record: Anna Rutledge, age 83. Died 16 Oct 1954 ?Richmond ?Brooklyn -- index is unclear.)

Their double grave, pictured on FindaGrave, says Louis and Anna Rutledge.

And this must be Arthur:

1910 census - Henry St., Manhattan - Abe Rotkovege, age 12, born NJ (jives with Paterson NJ on marriage record)

1915 census - Howard Ave, Brooklyn - Abraham Rutkovege, age 17, born US
    (Index has the wrong parents, because census pages are out of order.)

He's not with his parents (Ruthovege) in 1920.
  
In 1925, Louis and Anna "Roatleich," were living at 1424 Eastern Pkwy., close to the address on Arthur's death record. By 1930, they're Rutledge.  (All spellings mentioned are as indexed on Ancestry.)

Arthur's siblings: Rose, Ida, Sarah/Shirley, Sam, Lillie/Lillian, Alex.

Renee

Renee Steinig
Dix Hills, NY, USA

Sharon Dror <sadror@...> wrote:

Looking for Louis Rutledge and Anna nee Goldstein - both from Russia. They had a son Arthur Rutledge. He married to Rebecca nee Friedman of West Virginia on January 4, 1921 in Hamilton, Ohio. They moved to New York living at 1420 Eastern Parkway, Brooklyn. He died on August 28, 1925 and buried at Mount Zion Cemetery, Maspeth, Queens, NY - Plot Zablodower Path 11L Gate 4. Don’t know if Arthur had any siblings.


Re: Al Lederer #announcements #germany

Lmeyer8090@...
 

This is sad news.  Al and I had corresponded about our shared heritage in Muhlhausen, Bavaria and worked together on researching the Reizenstein family history.  In addition to being a talented researcher, Al was a kind and generous soul.  May his memory be a blessing.

Larry Meyer
Kensington, MD


Sinko, Shinke, Sinka from Lithuania #lithuania

Diane Jacobs
 

I prefer my husband's quote when describing me as a genealogist. She is more interested in the dead than the living.
 
Just in case this resonates with others from
 Lithuania, after 20 years of searching for my maternal grandfather's family, I have learned that Singman in NYC and Wash. DC were not Schimkov as stated in there 1888
passenger manifest from Vilna, but Sinko
or Shinke from Gelvonai, Sirvintos and Jonava. 
 
Anyone with similar names, please contact me.  Thanks. 
 
Diane Jacobs
Somerset NJ
 
 
 
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 

-------- Original message --------
From: David Lewin <david@...>
Date: 11/28/20 1:48 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Barbara Hershey <bwhpdx@...>, main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Hadassah Magazine article re genealogy #general
 
At 18:09 27/11/2020, Barbara Hershey wrote:

 

I was just alerted to this story by a friend.  I haven’t read it yet but thought someone might be interested.

https://www.hadassahmagazine.org/2020/11/02/genealogy-became-great-jewish-pastime/

The wife of my cousin in Switzerland, whom I visited at their home in Switzerland years ago commented  "You are all so busy with genealogy because you are all orphans".

David Lewin
London
--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Looking for Louis Rutledge and Anna nee Goldstein West Virginia and Ohio and New York #general #usa

sadror@...
 

Looking for Louis Rutledge and Anna nee Goldstein - both from Russia. They had a son Arthur Rutledge. He married to Rebecca nee Friedman of West Virginia on January 4, 1921 in Hamilton, Ohio. They moved to New York living at 1420 Eastern Parkway, Brooklyn. He died on August 28, 1925 and buried at Mount Zion Cemetery, Maspeth, Queens, NY - Plot Zablodower Path 11L Gate 4. Don’t know if Arthur had any siblings.

Email SADror@...
Sharon Ann Dror


Re: Hadassah Magazine article re genealogy #general

David Lewin
 

At 18:09 27/11/2020, Barbara Hershey wrote:

 

I was just alerted to this story by a friend.  I haven’t read it yet but thought someone might be interested.

https://www.hadassahmagazine.org/2020/11/02/genealogy-became-great-jewish-pastime/

The wife of my cousin in Switzerland, whom I visited at their home in Switzerland years ago commented  "You are all so busy with genealogy because you are all orphans".

David Lewin
London


18th c record from Glogow/Glogau #germany #poland #records

Frank Bond
 

While searching in the Polish archives for 18th c  information from Glogow/Glogau (JRI-Poland does not list any), I found a notebook entitled "Repertorium der Grund-Acten von der vormaligen Glogauer Juden-Stadt".  The date is given as 1821-1858, but it is clearly older than that. I can't figure out what this notebook is, but it includes lots of names.  It also has maps of the Jewish quarter and who lived where, but I'm not sure when. There is writing in several hands from different time periods.
 
 I'm hoping someone with expertise in this area might be able to figure out what this notebook is.  Its physical location is the Archiwum Państwowe w Zielonej Górze, and the URL is https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/jednostka/-/jednostka/6642846

I could read enough to tell that it does not include the name I was looking for, but it could be very useful for others.

Frank Bond
 


Re: Samuel Unger Family from Bielsko-Biala and Kamesznica,Zywiec, Poland #poland #galicia

carrieungertx2020@...
 

I believe Samuel Unger was my great great grandfather. He left Poland in 1912 under the Russian pograms. My father is Stephen Robert Unger. His father, one son of Samuel, was Irving. His brother is Arthur Unger still alive at 91 in Boca Raton. Then there was Herbert. Irving passed away in the late 1970s from prostate cancer. Herbert, I am not sure. His mom are still alive. Carol Unger Rubin lives in Georgia. Please let me know if this is the same Samuel. I think he had a brother Jacob and another one John. I heard a story about one of them starting a community in the forests of Austria-Hungary. 

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