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Re: Family GELFAND in SAINT PETERSBOURG #russia

Joel Ratner
 

Sophie,
 
You can find many resources for SPB in my library at the Internet Archive. The URL is https://archive.org/details/russianempiregenealogyresources . There you will find issues of Ves Petersburg and Ves Leningrad through 1940. Go to the collection and search for the term SPB.
 
 
Joel Ratner
Collection of Polish language Vilna resources. Some in pdf, others in djvu format Also see separate pages for Russian and Hebrew and Yiddish resources Topics: Vilna, Vilnius, вильна,וילנא,וילנע, Vilno, Wilna, Wilno, Vilne, Polish resources,...
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Re: Help Needed Reading Nativity on Census #russia #records

jbonline1111@...
 

My best reading is either Seoto or Leoto.  I hope that is helpful.
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: Kogan/Kagan #ukraine

Deb Katz
 

Both my research and my experience are that while occasionally non-cohanim adopted a cohan surname for reasons as offered above...this was rare.  In Jewish tradition---and I'm secular so not pushing a religious viewpoint---it was a shanda to "pretend" to be cohanim when you were not.  And the genetics bear this tradition out.   It is common that cohanim descendants in a single family with a cohanim tradition took different surnames, many times a non-cohanim surname.   So a Steinberg or a Goldberg might turn out to be cohan, but hardly ever is a Katz or a Caplan etc. not cohane.
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Deb
aka Debra Katz
Pacific Beach CA USA
dnadeb@...


Re: ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

Our Jewish Family History Research
 

Translated by Michael Ryabinky
Columbus, OH

Thank you so much Michael for your kind assistance.
The indexed record showed the following errors, in particular the LIBERMAN names:

1)WOGOWSKI(Should be WAGOWSKI?)
2)LIBERMAN,surname and LIBERMAN given name are identical in the index.

Many thanks.

Best,
 
Jacquie
 
Jacqueline GRUSZECKI
Toronto,Ontario,Canada
Researching:
WAGOWSKI/WAGOWSKY/WAGOWSKA and extended families from Łodz and other areas.
GRUSZECKI/GRUSZECKA and extended families from Warszawa, possibly Kotłówka & Żelechów
and other areas.
 


Looking for Urche GERSZONOWICZ-GOLDSTEIN born about 1893 in Lodz and emigrated to USA #lodz #usa #poland #russia

Dominique MERLET
 

Hello,
I am looking for information about Urche GERSZONOWICZ, born around 1893 in Lodz. He emigrated to the USA, I don't know in which year.
His parents were Jankiel GERSZONOWICZ and Yenta SZERPANSKA. One of his brothers, David GERSZONOWICZ, born around 1888, emigrated to the USA in 1913 and lived for a long time in Paterson (NJ). David died in New York in 1959. The name GERSZONOWICZ was abandoned in favor of the name GOLDSTEIN upon arrival in the USA.
Urche would also have changed his name to GOLDSTEIN and probably his first name because I find no trace of him in the USA.
Can someone help me?
Thanks
Dominique Merlet


Re: bubbie born in Sweden of Russian parents #scandinavia

Dr. Ruth Leiserowitz
 

There was a wave of Jewish migration from the Gouvernement Suwalki to and through Sweden. It began in 1850 and ended in 1900, and your ancestors that you have listed may well be among them. Among others, Carl Henrik Carlsson has published on this topic, e.g. 
„From Suwalki to Sweden. Jewish Migration and Integration, 1850–1920“, in:
AVOTAYNU, Bd. XXXIV, Nr. 2 (2018), S. 33–37.

Ruth Leiserowitz
Berlin / Warsaw


Levitic Status in 19th Century Polish Vital Records #records #poland

robertjaylevy@...
 

Do people with expertise in Jewish vital records in 19th century Poland know if Levite status was typically referenced in those records?  Would the Levite status of a groom or his father typically have been noted in a marriage record in the Lomza province in the 1840s?  Would the Levite status of a father have been documented in a birth record in the Lomza province in the 1860s?

I'm tracing the Levite status of a line of my family and wondering if the absence of any mention of Levitic affiliation on records like these indicates the family were not Levites.

Thank you for any expert guidance.

Bob Levy
Los Angeles


tens of thousands members "family trees" in Ancestry #announcements #general #education

kosfiszer8@...
 

Have you come across "family trees" in Ancestry with tens of thousands of members that are not a tree but what looks a collection of disjointed small family trees? They seem to be related to DNA investigations. Any idea why anybody would do this?

Angel Kosfiszer
Richardson, TX


Re: Kogan/Kagan #ukraine

Yefim Kogan
 

Well, first of all it was in the middle of XIX century, sometime in 1860s or so.

The main reason for changing surnames is that Jews did not want to go to Tzar army, and by changing names, that may helped.
If it is a large family, like 8 children with 5 boys, it is likely that someone would be going to the Army,  but if there are small families of 2-3 children, and 1 boy in each, that may not occur.  If it is only ONE boy in the family, that boy will not be recruited to the Army.

I also heard a rumor, but did not proof it that in some regions, not everwhere, Jews Kohanim were not recruited to the Army... not sure if this is true though.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan


JGSGM: A History of the Jews in Tampa #announcements #events

Paulette Bronstein
 


Dear Friends,
 
You are invited to join The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Miami and Temple Beth Am Sunday Salon by Zoom on Sunday, December 13th at 10:30 a.m. ET. 
The topic is Seders and Cigars: A History of the Jews in Tampa.  Filmmaker Barbara Rosenthal and historian Sylvia Gurinsky are the speakers.
 
Please register by contacting Yoram Millman, JGSGM VP of Programming at jgsgm.vpprogramming@....
 
Paulette Bronstein
President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Miami
jgsgm.president@...
 
 


Re: Using geneanet #france

Susan Lubow
 

I used it and found it very helpful in learning about a member of my family who moved to France in the 19th century.  None of the information I found on Geneanet was available on Ancestry or any other site I use (including familysearch). I was also able to find and contact current a family members who was totally new to me.  Most helpful for French records.

Susan Lubow
Morristown, NJ

Researching:
SCHWARZ
ROSEYRO


Mandselshteyn - Starokonstantinov #ukraine #names #records

Courtneym87@...
 

Kind of hit a dead end. My great-great grandfathers last name, translated more accurately than what they used in the United States, was MANDELSHTEYN. In the United States the spelling was Mandelstein, and after WW2 the men starting with my grandfather and his brothers changed it to Manders. The MANDELSHTEYN's were from Starokonstantinov.

Anyway, MANDELSHTEYN does not seem to be very common, and my cousin unearthed some new records on Jewish Gen from Starokonstantinov, one would assume they are related somehow. However, we really can't figure out how. Some are in the same age range as my Great Great grandfather Philip/Pinkhas (first name in first image), while others are in the same age range as my Great Grandfather Morris. Each record lists the person born, their name, DOB, parents AND grandparents names. In only 1 case are 2 of the records obviously related. I put some of the names on my tree, as the brother of my great great great grandfather; just to see if I got any leaf hints on the names and dates, but nothing yet.

Any suggestions? Anyone have these names on their tree from 1800's-early 1900's?

Srul/Yisrael Mandselshteyn
Shlyoma Mandselshteyn
Etia Leya Mandselshteyn
Pinkhos Khaim Mandselshteyn

Thanks!
Courtney Manders


Re: Trouble finding relatives in Ellis Island Passenger Lists #records #names

Deborah Blinder
 

This may not apply in your case, but a lot depends on how you know they arrived at Ellis Island. I "knew" that my paternal grandfather, who died long before I was born, immigrated from France to Ellis Island. I don't know if I had ever actually been told this, or if I had just always assumed it because my grandparents lived in Paris before coming to this country, and my father was born in New York. I could never find my grandfather at Ellis island, though, no matter what search techniques I tried. Eventually, with the help of someone much more experienced than I was, I learned that the reason I couldn't find him was that he sailed from Liverpool, not Le Havre, and landed in Philadelphia, not New York. 

So, unless you have other documents, such as naturalization papers, that indicate a New York arrival, try expanding your search to other ports of entry. Good luck!
--
Deborah Blankenberg (JewishGen ID #613395)
Lodi, CA
dtblankenberg@... 
Researching BLOCH/BLOCK (Germany to New York, Colombia and Missouri), BLINDER (Kishinev to New York via Poland? and Paris), KUSHER/KUSZER (Lodz vicinity to New York via Paris), GOLDSCHMIDT (Germany)


Re: Is TURKANOVSKI also TURKIEWICS? #names

kdomeshek@...
 

According to Bieder's Dictionary of Jewish Surnames in the Russian Empire:

Turkovich and phonetic variants derive from the village of Turkovichi.

Turchanovskiy is listed as a variant of Turchinskiy and Turchanskiy, derived from the village of Turchino or Turchiny.

Beider is not always right, but his work is right more often than wrong.  The point being, the dictionary lists both surnames, and shows them as being different, not variants of each other.

Ken Domeshek
Damesek (Nesvizh), Braverman (Nesvizh), Kartorzynski (Nowogrudek, Korelitz, Negnewicze), Sinienski (Negnewicze, Lyubcha) 


Re: Headstone Translation #translation

binyaminkerman@...
 

The name Yom Tov Lipa is not so uncommon to find among chassidim. It's likely that many of them do trace back to the Rabbi the "Tosfos Yom Tov" because the major chassidim families are very interelated but I don't think it's a given at this point that the name indicates a family tie to the Tosfos Yom Tov.

Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD


Help finding my maternal great great grandfather, Avram Grinberg and or my great grandmother Gitl Vigderovici #names #romania

Aline Petzold
 

Hello All:

  The marriage certificate of one of my grandmother's sisters (dated 1903) states that their mother, "Gitl, born of Avram Grinberg".  I tried to look up Avram Grinberg on JewishGen and on Ancestry.com, but there are so many Avram Grinbergs and I have no way of knowing if any  of them is my great grandmother's father. Gitl may have been married before as some records have her as being Gitl Osias ( or Hosios).  I would love to know more about my great great grandfather Avram and my great grandmother Gitl.  They were from Stefanesti in Northeastern Romania. Any Suggestions?

Thanks.
Aline Petzold
St. Paul MN


Re: place in Teleneshty Yizkor book #yizkorbooks

jerrold@...
 

From loctown on JewishGen, it would seem to be: Suhuluceni (or Sukhulucheni, Sukuluchen', Sukhulucheny all given as alternative spellings)
With map coordinates: https://www.jewishgen.org/maps/mapdist8.asp?lat=47.466389&long=28.518333

Jerrold Landau



 


Re: bubbie born in Sweden of Russian parents #scandinavia

seth@...
 

Stephen,

If your grandmother was born in Sweden in 1869, it is not sure that she came from Russia, as the later immigration of Jews to Sweden from the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th century.

A lot of the immigration of Jews in the first half of the 19th century came from Germany. The later Freedman spelling of the surname, is typically anglicized, and I would trust Friedman more. There are still tens of Jews in Sweden called Friedman, or the more Swedish "Fridman". You would probably have to employ a local genealogist to find exact information, unless you know the names of the  relatives in the generations of your grandmother's siblings' descendants, i.e. of those who stayed in Sweden. If you have that, there is a slight chance that some in my generation may have known some of them.

Seth Jacobson
Jerusalem


Re: ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

ryabinkym@...
 

In Russian:

43

Состоялось в городе Петроков 9-го августа 1874 года в 8 часов утра.  Явился лично равин Петроковского религиозного округа Борух-Герш Росенблум и в присутствии свидетелей: учителя Данилы Вигдоровича, 70-и лет и Ицика Минкевича, рабочего, 67-и лет, жителей города Петроков и объявили вместе со свидетелями, что сегодня, в 7 часов вечера, был заключен религиозный брачный союз между Мордкой Ваговским, холостым, 18-и лет, сыном Айзека и Фейги-Михли, урожденной Блументаль, супругов Зильберман, родившимся и городе Лодзи живущим с родителями, и Фримой Либерман, девицей, 18-и лет, дочерью умершего Фишеля и живущей Малки, урожденной Штейнберг, родившейся и живущей с матерью в городе Петроков.  Браку этому предшествовали троекратные оглашения в синагоге города Петроков - 13-го, 20-го и 27-го июля сего года, а также в Пултуской синагоге, 24-го ноября, 1-го и 7-го декабря сего года, как об этом удостоверяют приложенные свидетельства.  Новобрачные заявили, что предбрачный договор между ними заключен не был.  Обряд бракосочетания совершил равин Петроковского религиозного округа Борух-Герш Росенблум.  Акт сей по прочтении равином новобрачным и свидетелям, ими и нами подписан, кроме новобрачных , которые неграмотны.

Равин Борух-Герш Росенблум

Данила Вигдорович

Ицик Минкевич

Чиновник гражданского состояния города Петроков        Подпись

 

Translated into English:

43

 

It took place in the city of Petrokov on August 9, 1874 at 8 am. The rabbi of the Petrokov religious district Borukh-Gersh Rosenblum personally appeared and in the presence of witnesses: teacher Danila Vigdorovich, 70 years old and Itsik Minkevich, a worker, 67 years old, residents of the city of Petrokov and announced together with witnesses that today, at 7 pm , a religious marriage union was concluded between Mordka Wagowsky, single, 18 years old, the son of Isaac and Feiga-Michlya, nee Blumenthal, the spouses Wagovsky, who was born in the city of Lodz and living with his parents, and Freema Lieberman, a maiden, 18 years old, daughter the deceased Fishel and living Malka, née Steinberg, who was born and lives with her mother in the city of Petrokov. This marriage was preceded by three readings in the synagogue of the city of Petrokov - on July 13, 20 and 27 this year.  The newlyweds stated that the prenuptial agreement was not concluded between them. The wedding ceremony was performed by the rabbi of the Petrokov religious district Boruch-Gersh Rosenblum. This act upon reading by the rabbi to newlyweds and witnesses, they and we signed, except for newlyweds who are illiterate.

 

Rabbi Boruch-Gersh Rosenblum

 

Danila Vigdorovich

 

Itzik Minkevich

 

Official of the civil status of the city of Petrokov Signature

Translated by Michael Ryabinky
Columbus, OH


Reliable researcher for NY #usa

anthony.rabin@...
 

Can anyone suggest a reliable researcher for NY public records 1880 to 1920?

Thanks

Anthony Rabin
London, England

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