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Re: How did my great grandmother travel to Ireland from Kyiv? #ukraine #general

rv Kaplan
 

Interesting Les.  I know there was a Montefiore Shelter for immigrants in Rotterdam, but haven't found records.  In London, there was the Poor Jews Temporary Shelter.

Dr Nicholas Evans in Hull did his PhD in the subject of 'Aliens en route: European Transmigration via the UK, 1836-1914.'  He can probably answer some of these questions.

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow 


On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 21:44, <lesliekel18@...> wrote:
I am lucky enough to have travel documents for my family from 1923 for travelling from Zhitomir, Ukraine to Glasgow, Scotland. My family at that time was my grandfather (a widower) and his five children, 4 daughters and one son (my father).

They travelled by train from Zhitomir to Riga to obtain visas from the British Embassy in Riga. They would have had to change trains probably more than once due to the different rail gauges in the different countries. My understanding is that Latvia had a different rail gauge. In Riga they had to obtain visas to travel through Germany and Holland and to enter UK. From Holland they travelled by ferry from Hook of Holland to Harwich. From Harwich I assume that they travelled by train to Glasgow. I would love to know who helped them, who directed them, who translated for them.

The whole question of overland travel from the Pale to the West is very much undocumented, particularly in comparison to sea travel, when there were passenger lists.  Also there is an interesting "untold" story about the assistance that the travellers received on their journey. My aunts had stories about being given clothes in Holland. I tried to research "Immigrant Aid Societies" in Holland but without success.

Les Kelman
Toronto, Canada


Re: Help with the given name "Kuna" (from Belarus) #belarus #names

Harvey Kabaker
 

I have two women in my tree with the given name Kuna. My guess is that it's Yiddish, because it appears in marriage records that show Yiddish names for the husbands, rather than Hebrew names. Probably you will find a lot of material by searching for Kuna in Google as well as the JewishGen name databases for Poland and Lithuania, for example. Also, search for Kuna right here in the main discussion group.

Harvey Kabaker
Silver Spring, Md.
KABAKIER, KABAKER, WEINHOUSE, KOTLARSKY/CUTLER, OKUN, BERLINSKY/BERLUNSKY


Announcing the publication of the Memorial Book of Shebreshin (Szczebrzeszyn, Poland) #poland

Joel Alpert
 

The Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project of JewishGen is proud to announce
the publication of its104th title, 'Memorial Book of Shebreshin"
Translation of Sefer zikaron le-kehilat Shebreshin, Memorial Book to
the Community of Shebreshin

Original Yizkor Book Edited by: Dov Shuval
Association of Former Inhabitants
of Shebreshin in Israel and the Diaspora
Published in Haifa, 1984.

List price: $60.95 available from JewishGen for $34
To order go to: https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Szczebrzeszyn.html

Details:
Hard Cover, 8.5” by 11”, 542 pages with original photographs.
Editor of the original Yizkor Book: Dov Shuval

Layout: Jonathan Wind
Cover Design: Jan R. Fine
Name Indexing: Bena Shklyanoy

Szczebrzeszyn, Poland
is located at 50 deg 42’ N, 22 deg 58’ E 137
miles SE of Warsaw

From the Foreword:
The original Yizkor book of the Shebreshiner community, one of the
more than one thousand Jewish communities in Poland destroyed, is
published 42 years after the massacres in the shtetl, and 39 years
after the defeat of the Nazi regime and the end of the Second World
War. Is it not too late? Is it not in the sense of too little, too
late? Has not everything already been written about the destruction of
Jewish life in Poland? Has the material not already been exhausted? Of
course this sad chapter in the history of our people has not been
forgotten, but everything which has been written up to now has not
emphasized enough the extent of the loss: the tragic end of the
life-giving, thousand year old Jewish existence in Poland. Many yizkor
books of the devastated communities have been published, but it is not
sufficient. Every one of the survivors wants to cherish the memories
of the past, everyone wants to see his own city and story in the book,
wants to immortalize that which is most intimate to him. Every city
and shtetl was a little world of its own, a Jewish world with social
institutions, political parties, organizations, schools, and
synagogues, and a shared tradition. It is all unforgettable and
demands expression. Such was also Shebreshin, a shtetl in the Zamosc
area, Lublin province, which was populated by 8,000 people before the
war, 3,000 of whom were Jews.

Alternate names for the town: Szczebrzeszyn [Polish],
Shebreshin
[Yiddish], Shchebreshin [Russian], Shevershin, Szebrzeszyn, Shabeshin
Nearby Jewish Communities:
Zwierzyniec 7 miles S
Chlaniow 10 miles NNW
Zamossc 12 miles E
Goraj 13 miles W
Frampol 13 miles W
Turobin 14 miles NW
Krasnobrod 15 miles SE
Tarnogora 15 miles NNE
Zolkiewka 15 miles NNW
Izbica 15 miles NE
Bilgoraj 16 miles SW
Chrzanow 16 miles WNW
Jozefow 16 miles S
Gorzkow 17 miles N
Wysokie 20 miles NW

Packed with history; this book opens a unique window to life in this
shtetl. A must-read! Certainly a welcome gift to the relative who
would appreciate this unique history of their shtetl.

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project


Re: How did my great grandmother travel to Ireland from Kyiv? #ukraine #general

lesliekel18@...
 

I am lucky enough to have travel documents for my family from 1923 for travelling from Zhitomir, Ukraine to Glasgow, Scotland. My family at that time was my grandfather (a widower) and his five children, 4 daughters and one son (my father).

They travelled by train from Zhitomir to Riga to obtain visas from the British Embassy in Riga. They would have had to change trains probably more than once due to the different rail gauges in the different countries. My understanding is that Latvia had a different rail gauge. In Riga they had to obtain visas to travel through Germany and Holland and to enter UK. From Holland they travelled by ferry from Hook of Holland to Harwich. From Harwich I assume that they travelled by train to Glasgow. I would love to know who helped them, who directed them, who translated for them.

The whole question of overland travel from the Pale to the West is very much undocumented, particularly in comparison to sea travel, when there were passenger lists.  Also there is an interesting "untold" story about the assistance that the travellers received on their journey. My aunts had stories about being given clothes in Holland. I tried to research "Immigrant Aid Societies" in Holland but without success.

Les Kelman
Toronto, Canada


Re: How did my great grandmother travel to Ireland from Kyiv? #ukraine #general

Dennis Flavell <dennisjobflavell@...>
 

A number of our GUREVITCH family came from the Kiev region c 1900 to England and some onwards to Canada.  By rail to Riga, Latvia, thence boat to Hull, rail to Liverpool via Leeds and Halifax.
From Liverpool to Ireland (Dublin or Belfast) could be your final route.
Dennis Flavell, Cambridgeshire.


Info on Leah/Luba Gertzovsky and possible son/ step son Jack Miller #belarus

Emma Field
 

Hello, my great grandfather was Solomon Gertzovsky.

I have some documents that someone translated for me - 

 

“Looks like draft documents for Zalman Movshovich Gertzovskiy. He was drafted 1898 age 24. He resided in shtetl Dyatlovo in Slonim region Grodno municipality.”

 He married Leah and they had 4 kids including my grandmother. 


One of their children died age 16 and in the burial record it mentions he is mourned by Solomon and Leba. Not Leah. But on their own burial records she is listed as Leah.

Not sure if this is intentional or a mistake. 


Im not sure exactly when my Solomon (Zalman) married Leah and if it was before emigrating to London.

Also I am confused why his surname is 
Movshovich Gertsovsky on the document but went by Gertsovsky only once in London? Can anyone explain?

I would love to find out more about Leah and if her name was also Luba and what her maiden name was and where she came from. Any ideas how I can find out?

One more mystery. I have photos of a Jack Miller who is a half brother to Simon Gertzovsky - the child who died age 16 and is buried in Edmonton, London.

I have no idea who he is and how he came to be half brothers. He is alot older than Simon by the photos. 

I assume if his surname is Miller he was perhaps a child of Leah?? 


I have two photos of Jack Miller in New York and then a photo of Jack with Simon in London. My family lived in London.

So how can I track down where Jack fits in, and who his parents were?

I did try looking on the US federal census for 1920 but i have no real idea which Jack Miller is listed.


Many thanks for any advice!
Emma Field great grand daughter of Solomon Gertzovsky, UK


Help with the given name "Kuna" (from Belarus) #belarus #names

David Gordon
 

My family has always said that my great-grandmother (born 1870 in Borisov) was named Kuna.  I had long doubted that that was her "real" given name but recently discovered one of her travel documents (she came to the US, through Latvia, in 1923) and the US consulate in Riga entered her name on a receipt as "Kouna."  I've poked around and have been unable to find out much about the name.  Can anyone tell me (1) whether it would be a Yiddish (or other) name and (2) whether it is likely to have been her given name?  Many thanks in advance.

David Gordon
Evanston, IL
HORWITZ (Lapichi and Smolevichi, Belarus); GIBALOVITCH (Borisov); GORDON (Butrimonys); HURWITZ (Gomel)


Re: Advanced question on family name adoption lists in Baden #germany #records

d.mayer@...
 

Hi all
I have also used the Berthold Rosenthal documents available online from the Leo Baeck Institute. I have also noticed this document available from Family Search which looks like it could be a copy of the microfilm held in the Generallandesarchiv Karlsruhe. David, could you confirm ?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS63-VS6B-7?i=25&cat=486426

Unfortunately the document is hard to use because of the way it is assembled. First, all left pages, then all right pages.

Also, I read on one of the old Jewish Gen forums that there were two documents : one in 1809 and one in 1815 and that Berthold Rosenthal only copied the 1809.

Best Regards
Daniel Mayer


Re: Looking for a researcher for records in Romania #bessarabia #records #romania

soring0412@...
 

The Botosani research team has acquired and indexed all available records for Botosani and many other locations in the area. 
You can contact me privately, or join our group on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1465078043774333

Sorin Goldenberg
Israel


Re: Records from Ekaterinoslav, Dnipropetrovs'ka, Ukraine #ukraine

Gary Pokrassa
 

Jake - Alex Krakovsky has the following posted on his wiki page - here are the links:   

Ekaterinoslav County ed. ]

Ekaterinopolya Auditory tales of local peasants of Zvenigorod county 1811 280-2-254
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Katerinopil The auditory fairy tale of the Jews of the town of Katerinopol. 1806 280-174d-226
Katerinopil Auditory tales of Jews of Zvenigorod county 1816 455-2-2
Katerinopol Metric book of the synagogue of the town of Katerinopol. 1854. Divorce  // CDIAC. F. 1166. Op. 1. Ref. 5.   1166-1-5
Katerinopol Auditory of the Jews of the town of Katerinopol. 1795, 1806  // DAKO. F. 280. Op. 174 (add). Ref. 236   280-174-236
Katerynopil A fairy tale of Jewish merchants and burghers of Zvenigorod district. 1858  // DAKO. F. 280. Op. 2. Ref. 1382 1858 280-2-1382
Katerynopil Additional auditory fairy tale of the burghers of the Jews of Uman, Zvenigorod, Chyhyryn and Cherkasy counties. 1818  // DAKO. F. 280. Op. 2. Ref. 381. 1818 280-2-381
Katerynopil Auditory tales of Christians and Jews of Zvenigorod county. 1834  // DAKO. F. 280. Op. 2. Ref. 572. 1834 280-2-572
Katerynopil, others Family lists of Jews of the Katerynopil Jewish Society and neighboring villages, subject to regular recruitment. 1862  // DAKO. F. 280. Op. 164. Ref. 1134 1862 280-164-1134
Katerynopol Census of Jews in the town of Katerynopol Zvenigorod county. 1875 // DAKO. F. 12. Op. 3. Ref. 612.   12-3-612
Katerynopol Census of Jews Katerynopil and Petrykivskys of Zvenigorod county. 1875 // DAKO. F. 12. Op. 3. Ref. 614.   12-3-614
Gary Pokrassa
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division


Re: Help - would children on ships records be named? Or just the adults/adults travelling with them #records #hungary #russia #slovakia

Diane Jacobs
 

Of course, every person is listed.
Diane Jacobs



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Date: 12/12/20 8:18 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [JewishGen.org] Help - would children on ships records be named? Or just the adults/adults travelling with them #records #hungary #russia #slovakia

Would anybody know if ships records contained the children travelling with them too? 

thanks in advance
mandy molava
--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: Records from Ekaterinoslav, Dnipropetrovs'ka, Ukraine #ukraine

Hilary Henkin
 

Several years ago, Miriam Weiner did extensive research into the archives of Eastern Europe, documenting what records were existant in the various archives.  Her database is publicly available at https://rtrfoundation.org/ . She does include holdings for DNEPROPETROVSK.  The direct URL to that list is at https://rtrfoundation.org/results.php?townName=DNEPROPETROVSK&testing=0 .

It is my understanding that those records have not been scanned by the Family History Library (Mormons) and are not indexed, one must hire a researcher onsite.  (If I'm wrong, I'd love to know it!)

Records for some nearby cities may be within the FHL holdings - I found the 1887 Pavlograd marriage record for my great-grandparents.

As a side note, a few years ago, Ekaterinoslav > Dnepropetrovsk is now officially known as "Dnipro."  https://www.unian.info/politics/1349664-dnipropetrovsk-renamed-dnipro.html

Hilary Henkin

Researching:
Mogilev - BERLIN;  BELIISKI;  HENKIN - GENKIN;  MESCENIKOV;  POZ - POZE
Ekaterinoslav - KATZ; LAPIDUS;  LAVROTIN - LAVRUTIN - AVRUTIN;  PESACHINSKY; SHIMERNITSKY - SEMERNITSKY;  STEINHART
Roumania:  DONNENFIELD;  DOLLINGER;  RINCOVER - HARINCOVER;  WISENTHAL - VIESENTAUL
Harbin, China:  FELDMAN;  PENZNER;  SREBERK - SCHRIEBER;
Lublin, Poland:  KATZ;  JARMUSZ



On 12/11/2020 7:39 AM, Jake Jacobs wrote:
Looking for records of family members in Ekaterinoslav (now Dnipropetrovs'ka), Ukraine.  Does anyone know if there are any records from the 19th century, and where I might find them?  Thank you!

Diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas


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Re: Looking for a researcher for records in Romania #bessarabia #records #romania

Gary Mokotoff
 

Contact Ladislau Gyemant at gyemantld@... He lives in Cluj. He is a professor and professional genealogical researcher.

Gary Mokotoff


new JRI website #general

Relly coleman
 

does anyone know when the new JRI website is going live?  I thought it was supposed to roll out in december.
thanks
relly coleman


Help - would children on ships records be named? Or just the adults/adults travelling with them #records #hungary #russia #slovakia

mandy.molava@...
 

Would anybody know if ships records contained the children travelling with them too? 

thanks in advance
mandy molava


BAUMGARTEN, Fanny Vienna Cemetery. Photo needed #austria-czech

Mark A. Roseman <rosemanlawoffice@...>
 

Can anyone take photo of Fanny Baumgarten stone who was buried 18 Oct 1897 in Vienna central cemetery for payment of money?-
Section T1 Group: 50 Row 41 grave:64. Her maiden name was Feige or Fanny Indianer born Jaaroslaw, Poland.

Mark Roseman


Re: Jaroslaw Poland cemetery photographs #poland #photographs

Mark A. Roseman <rosemanlawoffice@...>
 

Any coonection to INDIANER, my family from Jaroslaw? Who can we get to invntory stones?-
Mark Roseman


Witnessing Holocaust History: From Generation To Generation - A New Global Project Partnership between WE ARE HERE! Perth, Australia, HAMEC Philadelphia and World ORT, London #education

Eli Rabinowitz
 


Participant - Herzlia School, Cape Town

Perth, Australia
Witnessing Holocaust History: From Generation To Generation
A new WE ARE HERE! project in partnership with HAMEC in Philadelphia and World ORT in London has been announced.
This global program will start with 19 ORT schools on 27 January 2021, and will continue with more schools for Yom Hashoah through 8/9 April 2021
Website:
https://wah.foundation/witnessing-holocaust-history-from-generation-to-generation/

Press Statement from HAMEC:

 

Holocaust Awareness Museum and Education Center

“Preserving History to Learn from the Past”

 

 

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Founders

Yaakov and Sheila Riz z”l

 

President

Chuck Feldman

 

Vice President, 

Education & Curator

Donald Wittenberg 

 

Vice President,

Development

Carol B. Irvine

 

Secretary

Aaron Finestone, Esq.   

 

Treasurer

Iona Riz. Esq. 

 

Parliamentarian

Paula Weiss, Esq.

 

Director,

Institutional 

Advancement

Abby F. Gilbert

 

Education Director

Geoffrey Quinn

 

Program Director

Dr. Ruth Almy

 

Program Assistant

Rycki Joy Freedman

 

Donor Services

Coordinator

Joe Chudzinski

 

Educator Emeritus

Hal Kessler

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For Immediate Release 

 

The Holocaust Awareness Museum and Education Center, World ORT, and the WE ARE HERE! Foundation have partnered this year to provide an international experience of Holocaust education and remembrance to students around the world. This is an international project that commemorates the Holocaust and also provides opportunities for global Holocaust education, engaging the next generation of learners.

The Holocaust Awareness Museum and Education Center will provide Witness to History Survivor Testimony programs to World ORT, the global education network driven by Jewish values, where students will have the opportunity to engage directly with a Holocaust survivor and hear their stories. These students will also, through the WE ARE HERE! Foundation learn the importance and legacy of the Partisans' Song, and join together globally through sharing that music in their own languages. The Partisans’ Song, the song of hope, is the legacy of the partisans and the survivors.

Join us on January 27, 2021 for a special broadcast program which will showcase the testimony shared with the students, allow them to describe and share their experiences with each other, and connect globally through the harmony of learning experiences and the singing of the Partisans' Song.

 

Other information about partner organizations:

HAMEC: Our mission is to educate students and adults, personalizing the Holocaust so that they learn the consequences of racism, ethnic cleansing, and intolerance. The Holocaust was a watershed event, not only in the 20th century, but in the entire history of humanity. Our Educational Programs serve the five-county area of Greater Philadelphia and beyond. We offer a variety of educational programs, including eyewitness testimonies, personal interactions with eyewitnesses, two live theater performances, and docent-led museum tours.

 

WAH!: The objective of our WE ARE HERE! project is to promote Human Rights and Social Justice through the principle of choosing to be an Upstander. Our focus is on language, literature, music, film, the arts, and other cultural forms. We feature the Partisans’ song, long revered by Holocaust survivors, including to this day. The very words embrace the understanding of what it takes to be an Upstander, and not a bystander. The message is relevant today both in the school yard, the sports field, and on the internet, to counter discrimination and cyber bullying.

 

World ORT: ORT is a global education network driven by Jewish values. Since 1880, ORT has transformed lives through training and education. It now reaches 300,000 people a year in more than 30 countries. ORT provides a combination of high-level science and technology education with strengthened Jewish identity, bridging the gap between ability and opportunity.

 

For more information please contact HAMEC Program Director Dr. Ruth Almy ruth@... 215.464.4701 

 
 

 

 

 

 




Participating ORT Schools for the 27 January 2021 event are:

Country/ City Timezone School
Mexico/ Mexico City CST CIM-ORT
South Africa/ Cape Town SAST Herzlia
South Africa/Johannesburg SAST King David Victory Park High
Bulgaria/Sofia EEST Dimcho Debelianov Hebrew and English Language School
Netherlands/ Amsterdam CET JSG Maimonides
Spain/Madrid CET ORT Colegio Estrella Toledano
Russia/ St Petersburg MST ORT de Gunzburg Secondary School # 550 “Shorashim”
Russia/ Samara SST Samara ORT Secondary School# 42, “Gesher”
Russia/ Moscow MST ORT Tekhiya, Center of Education # 1311
Russia/Moscow MST ORT Moscow Technology School, Gymnasium # 1540
Russia/ Kazan MST ORT “Mishpahteinu” Secondary School # 12
Ukraine/ Chernivtsi EEST ORT Specialized School #41
Ukraine/ Kiev EEST Kiev ORT Educational Complex #141
Ukraine/ Odessa EEST ORT Secondary School # 94
Ukraine/ Zhaporozhie EEST ORT “Aleph” Jewish Gymnasium
Moldova/ Kishinev EEST ORT Technology Lyceum
Estonia/ Tallinn EEST ORT Tallinn Jewish School
Latvia/ Riga EEST ORT Network Jewish Secondary School
Lithuania/ Vilnius EEST Vilnius Sholom Aleichem ORT School

 

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Re: Records from Ekaterinoslav, Dnipropetrovs'ka, Ukraine #ukraine

ryabinkym@...
 

Hi Diane,

I found on google contact information:

Державний архів Дніпропетровської області

Адреса: вул. Михайла Грушевського, 89 (будівля 1), м. Днiпро, 49069 (адміністрація);
вул. Князя Ярослава Мудрого, 10 (будівля 2), м. Днiпро;
Тел.:  (056) 732-49-69 (приймальня), 732-49-68 (стіл довідок);
Факс: (056) 732-49-69
E-mail: dado@...archive_dp@...
Виконуюча обов'язки директора: Легостаєва Олена Олександрівна

It's in Ukrainian language, but e-mail in English.
Yes they have some record from 
the 19th century.  Try to contact them in English first.   When you will be not successful, contact me.  I'm fluent in Russian and can help, when it's possible.

Michael Ryabinky
Columbus, OH  


Re: Jacob Grossman, Yiddish Actor, Bronx Art Theater #usa

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
I have been often in New York for my researches at :
Center for Jewish History https://www.cjh.org/
Yivo  https://www.yivo.org/
and I know they detain archives on Yiddish theater, in Europe and in America, specially New York.
Khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives & History at Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund / Workmen Circle of France)

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