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Dennis Flavell <dennisjobflavell@...>
A number of our GUREVITCH family came from the Kiev region c 1900 to England and some onwards to Canada. By rail to Riga, Latvia, thence boat to Hull, rail to Liverpool via Leeds and Halifax.
From Liverpool to Ireland (Dublin or Belfast) could be your final route. Dennis Flavell, Cambridgeshire.
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Info on Leah/Luba Gertzovsky and possible son/ step son Jack Miller
#belarus
Emma Field
Hello, my great grandfather was Solomon Gertzovsky.
I have some documents that someone translated for me -
“Looks like draft documents for Zalman Movshovich Gertzovskiy. He was drafted 1898 age 24. He resided in shtetl Dyatlovo in Slonim region Grodno municipality.”
I assume if his surname is Miller he was perhaps a child of Leah??
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David Gordon
My family has always said that my great-grandmother (born 1870 in Borisov) was named Kuna. I had long doubted that that was her "real" given name but recently discovered one of her travel documents (she came to the US, through Latvia, in 1923) and the US consulate in Riga entered her name on a receipt as "Kouna." I've poked around and have been unable to find out much about the name. Can anyone tell me (1) whether it would be a Yiddish (or other) name and (2) whether it is likely to have been her given name? Many thanks in advance.
David Gordon Evanston, IL HORWITZ (Lapichi and Smolevichi, Belarus); GIBALOVITCH (Borisov); GORDON (Butrimonys); HURWITZ (Gomel)
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d.mayer@...
Hi all
I have also used the Berthold Rosenthal documents available online from the Leo Baeck Institute. I have also noticed this document available from Family Search which looks like it could be a copy of the microfilm held in the Generallandesarchiv Karlsruhe. David, could you confirm ? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS63-VS6B-7?i=25&cat=486426 Unfortunately the document is hard to use because of the way it is assembled. First, all left pages, then all right pages. Also, I read on one of the old Jewish Gen forums that there were two documents : one in 1809 and one in 1815 and that Berthold Rosenthal only copied the 1809. Best Regards Daniel Mayer
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Re: Looking for a researcher for records in Romania
#bessarabia
#records
#romania
soring0412@...
The Botosani research team has acquired and indexed all available records for Botosani and many other locations in the area. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1465078043774333 Sorin Goldenberg
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Re: Records from Ekaterinoslav, Dnipropetrovs'ka, Ukraine
#ukraine
Jake - Alex Krakovsky has the following posted on his wiki page - here are the links:
Ekaterinoslav County [ ed. ]
Gary Pokrassa
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Diane Jacobs
Of course, every person is listed. Diane Jacobs Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "mandy.molava via groups.jewishgen.org" <mandy.molava=aol.com@...> Date: 12/12/20 8:18 AM (GMT-05:00) To: main@... Subject: [JewishGen.org] Help - would children on ships records be named? Or just the adults/adults travelling with them #records #hungary #russia #slovakia thanks in advance mandy molava -- Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey
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Re: Records from Ekaterinoslav, Dnipropetrovs'ka, Ukraine
#ukraine
Hilary Henkin
Several years ago, Miriam Weiner did extensive research into the archives of Eastern Europe, documenting what records were existant in the various archives. Her database is publicly available at https://rtrfoundation.org/ . She does include holdings for DNEPROPETROVSK. The direct URL to that list is at https://rtrfoundation.org/results.php?townName=DNEPROPETROVSK&testing=0 .
It is my understanding that those records have not been scanned by the Family History Library (Mormons) and are not indexed, one must hire a researcher onsite. (If I'm wrong, I'd love to know it!) Records for some nearby cities may be within the FHL holdings - I found the 1887 Pavlograd marriage record for my great-grandparents. As a side note, a few years ago, Ekaterinoslav > Dnepropetrovsk is now officially known as "Dnipro." https://www.unian.info/politics/1349664-dnipropetrovsk-renamed-dnipro.html Hilary Henkin Researching: On 12/11/2020 7:39 AM, Jake Jacobs wrote:
Looking for records of family members in Ekaterinoslav (now Dnipropetrovs'ka), Ukraine. Does anyone know if there are any records from the 19th century, and where I might find them? Thank you!
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Re: Looking for a researcher for records in Romania
#bessarabia
#records
#romania
Gary Mokotoff
Contact Ladislau Gyemant at gyemantld@... He lives in Cluj. He is a professor and professional genealogical researcher.
Gary Mokotoff
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new JRI website
#general
Relly coleman
does anyone know when the new JRI website is going live? I thought it was supposed to roll out in december.
thanks relly coleman
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mandy.molava@...
Would anybody know if ships records contained the children travelling with them too?
thanks in advance mandy molava
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BAUMGARTEN, Fanny Vienna Cemetery. Photo needed
#austria-czech
Mark A. Roseman <rosemanlawoffice@...>
Can anyone take photo of Fanny Baumgarten stone who was buried 18 Oct 1897 in Vienna central cemetery for payment of money?-
Section T1 Group: 50 Row 41 grave:64. Her maiden name was Feige or Fanny Indianer born Jaaroslaw, Poland. Mark Roseman
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Re: Jaroslaw Poland cemetery photographs
#poland
#photographs
Mark A. Roseman <rosemanlawoffice@...>
Any coonection to INDIANER, my family from Jaroslaw? Who can we get to invntory stones?-
Mark Roseman
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Witnessing Holocaust History: From Generation To Generation - A New Global Project Partnership between WE ARE HERE! Perth, Australia, HAMEC Philadelphia and World ORT, London
#education
Participant - Herzlia School, Cape Town Perth, Australia Witnessing Holocaust History: From Generation To Generation A new WE ARE HERE! project in partnership with HAMEC in Philadelphia and World ORT in London has been announced. This global program will start with 19 ORT schools on 27 January 2021, and will continue with more schools for Yom Hashoah through 8/9 April 2021
Website: https://wah.foundation/witnessing-holocaust-history-from-generation-to-generation/ Press Statement from HAMEC:
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Re: Records from Ekaterinoslav, Dnipropetrovs'ka, Ukraine
#ukraine
ryabinkym@...
Hi Diane,
I found on google contact information: Державний архів Дніпропетровської області Адреса: вул. Михайла Грушевського, 89 (будівля 1), м. Днiпро, 49069 (адміністрація);
вул. Князя Ярослава Мудрого, 10 (будівля 2), м. Днiпро;
Тел.: (056) 732-49-69 (приймальня), 732-49-68 (стіл довідок);
Виконуюча обов'язки директора: Легостаєва Олена Олександрівна It's in Ukrainian language, but e-mail in English. Yes they have some record from the 19th century. Try to contact them in English first. When you will be not successful, contact me. I'm fluent in Russian and can help, when it's possible. Michael Ryabinky Columbus, OH
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Re: Jacob Grossman, Yiddish Actor, Bronx Art Theater
#usa
Bernard Flam
Hi from Paris,
I have been often in New York for my researches at : Center for Jewish History https://www.cjh.org/ Yivo https://www.yivo.org/ and I know they detain archives on Yiddish theater, in Europe and in America, specially New York. Khavershaft Bernard Flam Archives & History at Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund / Workmen Circle of France)
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Re: Jacob Grossman, Yiddish Actor, Bronx Art Theater
#usa
ewkent@...
Gail H. Marcus:
One of the librarians at the New York Public Library Dorot Jewish Division (who I got to know in the 10 years (before March of this year) that I regularly spent time reading material there) -- a lady named Amanda (she also goes by Miryem-Khaye) Seigel -- is a devoted Yiddishist and is interested in the history of Yiddish-language theater (and -- in fact -- has sung and acted in Yiddish); she might be able to track down information about the Bronx Art Theater (or know sources already). The Dorot Jewish Division can be reached (librarians -- at least in September when I last sent email to them -- can be reached by email, even though the old NYPL main building is closed to the public) via dorotjewish@.... (I hope that it is OK to include that email address -- and the one I will be giving below). (A page on Amanda/Miryem-Khaye Seigel -- with a link to her website -- may be found here: https://web.uwm.edu/yiddish-stage/author/amanda-miryem-khaye-siegel . (I wish you Good Luck, too.) Ethan Kent New York City ewkent@... .
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A Latvian Chanukah Present - Day 3
#latvia
A LATVIAN CHANUKAH PRESENT - DAY 3 The Latvian Jew Who Composed the Lyrics for “Hava Nagila” by Ann Rabinowitz
In memory of my great uncle Max Hillman, who was born in Bauska, Latvia, and who started me on my genealogical research, which is so long ago now, I am posting a piece about Latvia every day throughout Chanukah. The posts will be about people, events, and daily life. These posts can also be viewed on the JewishGen Blog at: https://www.jewishgen.org/Blog/
One of the new facts about Latvian Jews that I learned in my research in the Historical Jewish Press website was from the article in The Palestine Post, Sunday, August 21, 1938, Page 2, which featured the obit of Abraham Zvi Idelsohn. There were approximately 115-120 references to him on the site.
He was born on July 14,1882, in Feliksberg (now Jurkalne), Latvia, and died on August 14, 1938, in Johannesburg, South Africa. A talented ethnologist and musicologist, he was known as a modern Jewish music pioneer and one of the primary individuals who brought Oriental Jewish music to the notice of the Jewish and general public.
Idelsohn spent his formative years in Leipsig, Koenigsberg, and Berlin, and then went to Johannesburg, South Africa, before his productive stay in Palestine from 1905 to 1922. He then took a position at the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati, Ohio, in 1922 and then settled in America in 1932.
He felt that “the key to Jewish unity and survival lies in Jewish music” and he did his best to promote that music in his studies and creations. His most famous accomplishment was the lyrics for “Hava Nagila” which was published in 1922. This song has become the favorite of the modern Jewish music repertoire and is known the world over. One can even hear it sung at athletic events such as England’s Tottenham Hotspurs games.
In addition to “Hava Nagila”, it was Idelsohn, and his compatriot Eduard Birnbaum, who identified the melody of Chanukah’s traditional prayer, “Ma-oz Tzur”, as being related to a group of Protestant chorales and a German soldiers’ song.
To learn more details about Idelsohn and his career, check out the following site: http://www.seligman.org.il/joffe_AZIdelsohn.html
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Re: Looking for a researcher for records in Romania
#bessarabia
#records
#romania
Marcia Segal
I have done some searching, with no luck. I may not have tried hard enough--I seem to get undone when it comes to the difference between the way I know a name is pronounced, and the way it's spelled. This may simply be a matter of getting better with experience. But I did hope there would be information not in databases available to researchers like JewishGen.
Then there's the mixed messages I've received regarding one person who was said to be from Harlau but also said she was from Betashan (Botosani, I believe). She left Romania as a child, with her family, in 1888. Some of her aunts and uncles emigrated to Canada, Israel, or not at all. Sincerely, Marcia Segal
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Matchmaker Postcards
#photographs
Barbara Krasner
A cousin passed on to me a matchmaker's postcard ca. 1910 of my grandfather in front of his Newark, NJ grocery. Does anyone have any information on these postcards?
Barbara Krasner Somerset, NJ Searching Krasner, Zuckerkandel, Dvorkin, Seife, Pryzant, Entel, Drewno, Donsky
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