Re: Help - would children on ships records be named? Or just the adults/adults travelling with them #records #hungary #russia #slovakia

Phil Karlin

I have an 1868 arrival in New York, a baby is not named. There's a column on the manifest "Baby" with a 1 in it. 

Phil Karlin
Hartford, CT USA

Re: How did my great grandmother travel to Ireland from Kyiv? #ukraine #general

Barbara Hemmendinger

My grandfather, Adolph Bahssin (née Abram Basin) traveled from Chernigov near where he was born in Starodub, Russian empire, to Libau (now Liepaja, Latvia).  I have documents showing that he had purchased a package ticket by steamer in 1911 from Libau to Hull, England, where he transmigrated by railroad to Liverpool and boarded the Lusitania there bound for New York. That ship called at the port of Queenston (now Cork, Ireland). He continued on to NY arriving in the US on August 4, 1911. 

Interestingly, on the same voyage, and with a much more formal reception as my grandfather, which he recalled in person to my mother, was
  • Japan's Admiral Count Tōgō Heihachirō, commander of the Japanese fleet during the Russo-Japanese War, was welcomed to New York City as a guest of the United States. After arriving the night before on the Lusitania Aug, 4, 1911 at 11:40 pm, he transferred to two smaller boats and stayed at the Hotel Knickerbocker. Meeting Mayor William J. Gaynor later in the day, he departed on a train for Washington DC that afternoon, where he was hosted at a state dinner by President Taft.[8] 

Barbara Hemmendinger

Re: How did my great grandmother travel to Ireland from Kyiv? #ukraine #general

Dr. Ruth Leiserowitz

Concerns rail gauge 
The railroad connections between the Baltic port cities (Libau /Liepaja and Riga respectively) and Ukraine via Belarus were (and still are!) direct and on the same gauge.

Ruth Leiserowitz

Family that left Panevezys, Lithuania for the USA #lithuania #usa

I am looking for the descendants of two brothers of my late grandmother, Golda Ella Hoffman (or Gofman),
who left Panevezys, Lithuania for New York. Their names were Solomon and Joseph Hoffman (Gorman).
My grandmother also had a sister by the name of Hoda Goldberg that went to live in Baltimore.
Any assistance in locating the descendants of these persons would be greatly appreciated.
Gordon Berger  (gordberger@...)

looking for information on Shelly ( aka Rashela/Rachel) Blauer Sternberg #names #romania #canada

Aline Petzold

Hello All:

I am trying to trace where and when my Aunt Shelly Sternberg, maiden name Rasela Blauer, was born.  She married my uncle Willy ( aka Wilhelm) Sternberg in 1935, in Bucharest Romania.  They moved to Montreal CA during the early or middle 1960's. She outlived my uncle, died in May 2000 and was buried in Montreal under the name Rachel Sternberg.  Any help would be appreciated.

Aline Sternberg Petzold
St. Paul MN
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Re: Help with the given name "Kuna" (from Belarus) #belarus #names

Michael Sharp

My wife's great grandmother who came from Rajgrod, Poland was called Khuna / Kune - that is her name on both Polish documents and English records

The Jewish Given Names Database suggests a Germn origin for the name The Polish Given Names Database (

This is surprising perhaps, but I have also throught that it may be a corruption of Chanah (Hannah)

Michael Sharp
Manchester UK

Włoszczowa Books of Residents Polish Index extracted #poland


JRI-Poland is pleased to announce the extraction of the Polish Index to the Włoszczowa Book of Residents, with sincere thanks to the diligent efforts of volunteer Ornit Laska.  This Book of Residents includes permanent residents of the town of Włoszczowa who were alive from 1890. The book was updated through 1931, and the Index was likely created around 1928.


The information in the volumes is arranged by house number and household, and includes the resident’s parentage, date-of-birth (and date-of-death within this period), town of birth, last town of residence, occupation and relation to head-of-household. The data offers an invaluable supplement to metric records. Nine out of ten of the Book of Residents volumes survived.


For a surname list from the index, please contact me: judyggenealogy@...


Judy Golan

JRI-Poland Kielce Area Coordinator

Re: Help - would children on ships records be named? Or just the adults/adults travelling with them #records #hungary #russia #slovakia

Janette Silverman

The only time I have seen manifest pages without the names of children are on the detention pages of U.S. arrival manifests where it might just have something like the name of the adult + 5 children. Sometimes for whatever reason, on the regular passenger manifest pages people traveling together in a group are on different pages of a manifest, sometimes the name you are looking for isn't the name under which a person is traveling, sometimes a child traveled with another family member on a different ship.
Janette Silverman
Phoenix, AZ & Salt Lake City, UT

Re: Looking for birth records of Ezekiel and Max Land in Suwalki #poland #lithuania

Jill Whitehead

Land sounds like an anglicisation of another name, or possibly a variation on a patronymic name. There is however, the surname Landa which can be found in Suwalki area. This may be your best bet.

Compared with other areas, there are not many records for BMD in Suwalki generally or the Vilkaviskis area, as this area was the front line in both WW1 and WW2, and so many records were destroyed in wartime.

Do you not have a surname on these men's naturalization records?

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK
(All my ancestors came from this area).

Re: Help - would children on ships records be named? Or just the adults/adults travelling with them #records #hungary #russia #slovakia


The answer may depend on the date.  In United States passenger lists of the early 19th century one might find only "Mr. So-and-so, wife, and 5 children" listed.  It gets better as the century progresses, and by the late 19th c. every person should be listed by name.

Marian Smith

Re: Help with the given name "Kuna" (from Belarus) #belarus #names


In my family from various towns in Galicia (now Western Ukraine), we have an ancestor with the name of Kuna. 

I find Phillip Trauring's 'blood and frogs' website a good source of information for first names.  Mr Trauring helpfully cites the source of his information.  So, courtesy of Mr Trauring's website we can see the following: 

אלקנה    Elkana        Elkan, Elkun, Kuna

i'm inclined to 'go with' this source for the name Kuna, unless of course A. N. Other has a different explanation.  

Malka Flekier
London, UK

NEUKHAM Family from GOMEL & BIELITZA,BELARUS #general #belarus

Mark A. Roseman <rosemanlawoffice@...>

Please send information for this family who lived in Gomel and Bielitza late 1800's and prior. Includes Mikel and Mikelia Neukhman and others. Some owners or managers of cherry orchards.
Mark Roseman

Re: Trying to make contact with the family of David Rokeach of Montreal family #canada

Peninah Zilberman


Have you tried the Montreal Tel. Book, Jewish Federation, Orthodox Synagogue

I recall a Rokah Rabbi was a Principal of Associated Hebrew Schools maybe 40 years ago in Toronto, after about 10 years he went back to Israel.

Good Luck

Happy Chanukah

Peninah Zilberman






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Re: How did my great grandmother travel to Ireland from Kyiv? #ukraine #general


This is interesting because some of the family left Ireland in the 1950s and went to South Africa but according to family sources we believe they went to Leeds for a few weeks before making the journey to South Africa. Others went on to Canada, also in the 1950s. But I never knew who the connections in Leeds were.
John Edwards

Re: Help with the given name "Kuna" (from Belarus) #belarus #names


According A. Beider, A Dictionary of Ashkenazic Given Names, p. 530, Kune is a Jewish name borrowed from German Christians who used the form Cuna since the 10th century as a hypocorism for Cunigundis (Kunegonde). There are a lot a variants (Kuna, Kunya, Kina, Kuntse, Kunke, etc.)
Max Polonovski, Paris

Re: What does "Na'az" mean? #names #translation #belarus

David Barrett

I suspect that maybe you did not read this correctly or it was written incorrectly 
There is the name NOAZ in English  [ from Isaiah] = strength
It is possible that an English a or o cursive misread
David Barrett

IGRA Show & Tell, December 14, 2020 9 pm Israel #usa #israel

Garri Regev

The next IGRA Show & Tell session will be Monday, December 14 at 9 pm Israel time (2 pm EST)
Moriah Amit will speak on "Online Genealogy Collections from the Center for Jewish History’s Archives"

The Center for Jewish History houses the largest archive of the modern Jewish experience outside of Israel, illuminating the history and culture of Jewish communities around the world. Among the Center’s collections are many items that can provide information about your ancestors and ancestral towns, a significant portion of which can now be viewed online. In this session, Moriah Amit will highlight the online collections of greatest value to Jewish genealogists -- including the records of New York orphanages, American soldiers in World War II, immigrant aid organizations, and German-Jewish families -- and demonstrate how to access them.

Moriah Amit is the Senior Reference Services Librarian at the Center for Jewish History's Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute. For more than nine years, Moriah has provided on-site and remote reference service to thousands of family history researchers. For the past seven years, she has coordinated the Institute’s operations, public programming, and outreach. In addition, Moriah is the creator and manager of the Institute’s New York Historical Synagogues Map (, a free online tool for Jewish genealogy that was awarded the IAJGS’ John Stedman Memorial Grant in 2019. 
Garri Regev
President, IGRA

Re: Advanced question on family name adoption lists in Baden #germany #records

Ralph Baer

In some cases Rosenthal copied the 1809 list and in others the 1815 list. Rarely did he copy both. The 1809 lists only contain ages, not dates of birth. The 1815 lists usually contain the dates of birth at least for children. They may not be correct which can be seen by comparing young children's birth dates with those on birth records.

When i was at the Generallandesarchiv in Karlsruhe, I looked at some of the records which Rosenthal did not copy.

One more thing, some of the microfilms of these records which can be seen using DigiBaeck at the Leo Baeck institute website were microfilmed very light and are difficult to decipher.
Ralph N. Baer        RalphNBaer@...       Washington, DC

Re: Help ship records - not all family did entire journey to USA #usa #russia #records #belarus

Stephen Weinstein

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 11:31 AM, <mandy.molava@...> wrote:
I wondered if anyone knew if there were any such thing as an 'early leavers ship records' anywhere? 
1. Sometimes the list was prepared in advance, before the ship reached England, and everyone planning to go to the U.S. was put on it, and then those who got off early were crossed out.  So look on the list for the ship from when it reached the U.S., at the crossed out names, and see if she's one of them.
2. There are surviving lists of who departed from some ports.  (Ancestry has a good collection of departures from one port in Germany, but most of the passengers show up on the [free] Statue of Liberty / Ellis Island Foundation database of passengers who arrived at New York, so I rarely use it.  But it would be good for your situation, if she left from that port.)
Stephen Weinstein
Camarillo, California, USA

Looking for birth records of Ezekiel and Max Land in Suwalki #poland #lithuania


Looking for birth records of brothers Ezekiel and Max (do not know his birth name) in the Suwalki Gbernia of Poland/Lithuania in the 1869-1875 period. Ezekiel settled in Virginia and Max in New York. Can not find any documents showing their entry in 1894/1895. Have many records in the USA, with the exception of their entry. The Land brothers may be related to the Haskiel family in Vilkaviskis, Lithuania
Angel Kosfiszer
Richardson, Texas

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