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Re: New DNA-Based Study of Jewish Pre-History #dna #israel #announcements #general

rroth@...
 

My guess is that it's a way to AVOID peer review. 

Their first screen says "Academia is the easiest way to share papers with millions of people across the world for free. A study published in PLOS ONE found that papers uploaded to Academia receive a 69% boost in citations over 5 years."

So kind of the academic equivalent of self-publishing?

Robert Roth


Re: 1899 Psychiatric Diagnosis #records #usa

rroth@...
 

Syphilis was a known cause of dementia in those days, so if that were the diagnosis they might have said so, but if the institution just "acquired" the victim in a late stage there might not have been a known history so they might use the catch-all "terminal dementia". 

But many, many other conditions are also possible.  Someone on my tree had a record of off-and-on mental illness and died in an asylum; I suspect what he had was mercury poisoning from his career as a Dagerrotypist. They had the same exposure as the "mad hatters".  Then there were Van Gogh and others who worked with lead pigments. The list goes on.

Robert Roth M.D.


Re: How they traveled #romania #russia #usa

Jorge Sexer
 

Having or not having a Russian passport made all the difference. With a passport you could board a train or a boat to leave the Empire. Without, your only choice was to get smuggled across the German or Austrian frontier.

 

A passport was expensive and impossible to obtain if someone in the family was due his military service (in that case you had to pay a huge fine). Crossing the frontier illegally was not free either : you had to hire a "tour guide", who in his turn bribed the frontier guards. Some witnesses say that it was dangerous, other describe it as a routine affair.

 

Entering Germany the legal way was not necessarily easy either : you had to show a passenger ticket (preferrably by a German shipping company) and a sum of money to make sure that you wouldn’t be denied entry to the U.S. The Germans wanted migrants to pass swiftly through their country and leave as soon as possible. The transport of migrants was a profitable business for the German companies and state.

Jorge Sexer   jas2608@...


Re: New DNA-Based Study of Jewish Pre-History #dna #israel #announcements #general

krausj2@...
 

Academia.edu is not itself an "organization." It's a forum in which academics can share publications that have been, usually, peer-reviewed elsewhere. 

It's a good question about whether and how this paper was peer-reviewed.
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Joe Kraus
krausj2@...


Re: Help = Ancestry DNA .. is it worth looking below 2nd Cousin if no proof in trees or known relatives? #dna

chuckreback@...
 

Yes.  On Ancestry I have been able identify almost every DNA match with over 100 cM and fewer than 10 segments.

Chuck Reback
Spartanburg, SC
USA


Mościska / Rudniki relatives records advice? #austria-czech #ukraine

sditzion@...
 

Hello!  My ancestors with last name Dizian/Dician/Ditzian etc and other similar spellings are from Rudniki (a section of northern Mościska, which was part of Austria near Lviv) and perhaps Medyki (also next to Mościska).   I have exhaustively searched every combination of spelling in JRI Poland, Gesher Galicia, Ellis Island, Family Search and Ancestry and have found a bunch of things but I have a bunch of gaps.  My relatives came to America between 1899-1903 and I have those records but I am still trying to find certain records from Mościska area that don’t already show up on  JRI Poland, Gesher Galicia. 


Specifically, I would love to find the birth record of my great great grandfather Selig/Zelig/Selik Dizian (or similar spelling).  I did find an “Abraham Selig Dizian” (born 1845, which was about the right time) but his son was later named Abraham Dizian which seems unusual because I know Selig was alive for many more years.  Perhaps I don’t know about Jewish traditions back then, but it seems unlikely that he would go by his middle name Selig and later name his son Abraham.


I would also love to find marriage records for Selig Dizian and Malke Rettig and a death record for Selig Dizian, as I cannot find any evidence of whether he came to the America (his children all did and his wife did between 1899-1903, all separately).  I know for sure that Selig had died by 1908.


Does anyone know of other good resources that would find additional clues or documents not included on the above resources? 


Does anyone know if additional non-searchable records exist and how to access them?


Thanks so much!!!


Help = Ancestry DNA .. is it worth looking below 2nd Cousin if no proof in trees or known relatives? #dna

mandy.molava@...
 

 Ancestry - is it worth looking below 2nd Cousin if no proof in trees or known relatives and Jewish on both sides of the families?
Was told not to bother with anything below 4th in 4th Cousin by speaker in a local talk, however told also by another researcher that the DNA is magnified once it gets past 2nd cousin? I am on Ancestry, My Heritage and GEDmatch. (love the GEDmatch tools) to compare and do the wider searches.

Thanks in advance
Mandy Molava


KGB Archives #records #russia #ukraine

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

 

 

The Security Service of Ukraine or SBU is Ukraine's law-enforcement authority and main government security agency in the areas of counterintelligence activity and combating terrorism. Surprisingly, this archive is where Russia’s KGB materials are stored. By a 1991 decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet, the KGB materials were to be transferred to the State Archives which included one and a half million “filtration cases” against people who were forcibly brought to Germany and other countries of the Axis coalition during World War II. However, the transfer of the remaining funds to the KGB was prevented by the lack of space in state archives. Therefore, they remained in the Security Service of Ukraine, which received from Parliament material and technical support of the Soviet Special Service, including the premises where the KGB archives were kept.

 

The records include the regulatory and administrative documents of the Cheka-KGB, documents of secret and unclassified office work, annual work plans, reports and the like. And indeed political cases: arrest warrants and search warrants, questionnaires of the arrested, search logs, fingerprints, photos of the arrested, descriptions of the confiscated property, interrogation records of the defendants and witnesses, indictments, documents relating to stay in forced labor camps, letters, appeals, complaints of the defendant and his relatives, conclusions on the lack of rehabilitation reasons or a resolution on rehabilitation.

 

The affairs of the KGB were and are kept by the SBU  ( https://ssu.gov.ua/en),  documents of the NKVD — the Ministry of the Interior (https://mvs.gov.ua/ua/pages/340_Derzhavniy_arhiv_MVS_Ukraini.htm) only in Ukrainian and records of the secret services of Soviet Ukraine documents of the NKVD https://szru.gov.ua/en/news/news/the-state-archive-of-the-foreign-intelligence-service-of-ukraine-has-declassified-exclusive-materials-on-the-activity-of-the-ukrainian-peoples-republic

 

Many documents were destroyed after the Stasi Archives in East Berlin were seized in 1989, which changed the period of time for storage.

 

To learn how to work with the KGB Archives ad read more see:

https://zaborona.com/en/how-to-find-information-in-the-kgb-archives/

 

The article gives a list of online archives and databases with links to them. They are in Ukrainian. Use of a translation system such as Google translate https://translate.google.com/ and https://www.deepl.com/translator may be of assistance.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

 


Re: Reading the Translations of the Jewishgen Yizkor Books #yizkorbooks

flmillner@...
 

I wanted a translation of the Troki Yizkor book.  (Only the table of contents and the lists of martyrs were on JewishGen originally.)  JewishGen acted as middleman.  I made charitable contributions to JewishGen and they paid the translator I had found.  The Troki book is now totally online.    It was well worth the effort.
Fred Millner
Trenton, NJ
flmillner@...


Re: Changing occupations on a ship passenger list #general

David Oseas
 

Michele,

The information on the passenger list was gathered & recorded initially by the shipping company at the ticket sales office.

One of the ship's officers confirmed the information with the passengers as they boarded (or perhaps shortly afterward). 

It appears that the person at the ticket office did not follow standard practice in several columns:  for example, only the town of residence was recorded in column #10, and not the country, which was added in the same handwriting as the occupation corrections.  The person making the corrections also added family relationships in column #2.  As you noted, the occupations were originally recorded as generic terms (domestic, laborer) rather than specific fields of work (capmaker, tailor).

My guess is that the person at the ticket office was inexperienced & that the ship's officer made the corrections to adhere to the policies of the shipping company.

 
Regards,
David Oseas

Researching:
HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York;  KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles
KRONOWITH:
Hungary > New York;  OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
SCHECHTER/SHEKTER: Kishinev, Bessarabia > New York;  SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles
STRUL:  Iasi, Romania > Haifa, Israel;  WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles


Family Connections: Lviv - Vienna #austria-czech #ukraine

Sniderlh
 

Recently, I posted a query regarding my HEILPERN family & its extended family. Looking at old photos with & without id, and recalling names my father mentioned being, "cousins of some sort."  I hope to connect these faces/names to my family tree, but there are BIG gaps. I posted 3 photos on View Mate about a week ago, #88955-57 hoping to id the men shown.  The names I have in mind would connect on my father's maternal line, and from what I know so far, they would likely be in these families: STROH, PINELES & RAPPAPORT, (and maybe POLTURAK). My grandmother was, Ernestine Lea Korpus, born 1881, in Lemberg/Lwow/Lviv. Most of these families were also in that area, and eventually many of them ended up in Wien/Vienna & a lot of them were in the medical field.  Any suggestions on finding more siblings & married-in people & resulting children connected to these names; any possible relations along the family names mentioned here?  
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Leah Heilpern Snider
Silverdale, Washington/ USA


Viewmate Translation Request - Polish #poland #ukraine #translation

evagjuni@...
 


Re: Paternal grandparents Ancestral Town in (?) Russia #russia

stillreads@...
 

Hello,

Did any of your Portnoj/Portnoy ancestors marry Guinzbergs/Ginsburg family from Chernigov gubernia? It appears there was definitely several marriages between them in my family.

Susan Ginsburg Brundage
researching Ginsburg/Portnoy/Malatzky/Kvas/Mindlin families


Re: How they traveled #romania #russia #usa

Michele Lock
 

I’m responding to a couple of posts above –

 

The Fusgeyers – There was an article written on the Jewish Telegraphic website back in 2005, that says the these travelers walked across Romania, rather than walking clear across Europe. They were stopped at the Austro-Hungarian border. They were able to proceed by train and then by ship because Jewish communities in Austria, Hungary and Germany paid for their tickets, apparently so the travelers would not remain in those countries (and cause embarrassment).

 

https://www.jta.org/2005/02/06/lifestyle/book-tells-of-wandering-romanian-jews

 

How immigrants got their ship/rail tickets – Temple University has images of the ticket purchase records of the Blitzstein Immigrant Bank in Philadelphia. I found my greatgrandfather’s purchase of tickets for his wife and children (including my then 3 year old grandfather). The family’s address in Lithuania is shown, so that they could receive their tickets, most likely from a local agent near their town in Lithuania. For persons who bought their own tickets, they also would have gone to a local agent. It’s my understanding that these were combined rail/ship tickets. The Blitzstein ledgers show who paid for the ticket, the passenger’s name and address in the old country, the name of the ship, the port where the ship was leaving from, and any intermediate ports (Liverpool, etc.). Gives a good snapshot of the various routes that immigrants took to come to the US.

 

https://digital.library.temple.edu/digital/search/collection/p16002coll16

--
Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Minsk gub., Belarus


Avigdor ENDE-Galicia and Jerusalem #israel #names #galicia

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

Does anyone know of a connection between ENDE family , a well known
Jerusalem family and an EISEN family who lived in Zlochew, Poland and
then NYC.

TIA

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Changing occupations on a ship passenger list #general

Michele Lock
 

I have the ship passenger list for my maternal great great grandparents Jossel and Michle Leibman and two of their daughters, arriving in July 1906 on the SS Westernland in Philadelphia. On the page that includes them, I noticed that 12 out of the 30 passengers had their occupations changed after the manifest had first been filled out.

The Viewmate image of the entire page is available at: 
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89158

A snippet of the page is below - 


Some of the changes don't make much sense to me - changing 'Laborer' to 'Druggist', 'Laborer' to 'Capmaker', etc. Almost all the listings for 'Domestic' (meaning a maid) were changed to 'Tailoress'. I checked other pages in the manifest, and this is the only one that has so many changes. By looking at the handwriting, the person who made the changes was not the original person who filled out the manifest.

Does anyone know what the reason(s) for so many changes might be? My impression had been that passengers were not re-interviewed about their occupation or any other details, once they were on the ship. I also assume that once they had arrived, the US immigration officials would have asked them what their occupations were.

--
Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Minsk gub., Belarus


ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland #translation

Alex Guri
 

Hello,

I've posted vital records in Polish for which I'd appreciate a translation.
They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM88893
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM88965
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89056
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89057
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89059

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much,
Alex Guri


Re: help deciphering name #names #translation

Peter Cohen
 

Might says Chaweyleh (Chavaleh)
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Peter Cohen
California


Question about funding Holocaust Documentaries #holocaust

Nehama and Moshe Kutten
 

My cousin who lives in  Argentina is the son of my uncle who was born and grew up in Brody,. Zeev Was born in a Nazi camp in Rhodes after his parents were captured by the Italian Fascist navy while escaping from Europe. Their ship Pentcho ship, which left Brattislava on May 1940, was wrecked off Mytilene Island in the Aegean sea. Zeev’s daughter who is a movie director is working now on a documentary (in Spanish) about her father and grandparents. Do you know about any institutions who help in funding that type of Projects?. I have a brochure that describes the project and would be happy to send it to anybody who can help.

 

Moshe Kutten

Coatesville, PA

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: How they traveled #romania #russia #usa

Lee Jaffe
 

I've been looking for sources that can elaborate on the journey, including the legal/illegal and financial aspects involved.  I have little pieces of the story but I'm intrigued by how all the moving parts fit together to enable someone living in a small rural town – perhaps speaking only Yiddish, maybe a minor, without official permission to travel or leave the Empire – could travel across several frontiers, a journey of days, arriving at a port city, negotiate boarding a steamship, with all the fiscal and legal transactions involved.  

There is an episode in Sholem Aleichem's Motl, the Cantor's Son in which the family travels to America.   It involves travel by wagon, being smuggled across the frontier and escorted to lodging before being put on a train to a port city.  There were obviously "agents" who took care of arrangements organized in advance, but there are no clues about how those were managed.

My grandfather told me he was smuggled across the Russian border from his town in Poland, near Bialystok, and put on a train to Antwerp.  The train was delayed by the Germans and he arrived too late for his passage and had to wait in Antwerp for a week for the next ship.  According to him, he was 13, accompanying a younger cousin, spoke Yiddish only.  He didn't say (and I failed to ask) how he got across Poland to the frontier, who smuggled him across the border, who put him on the train, who arranged for lodging in Antwerp, and how did he pay for it, and who negotiated his passage when he missed the first boat.  I know that there was a system where family in the US could deposit money in a bank in order to pay for the crossing but I'd like to know more about the whole scheme, step-by-step. 

I have two Russian passports for my great-grandparents (other side of the family).  The one for my great-grandfather has many pages torn out (coupons?) and only the barest information remains.  But my great-grandmother's passport includes three pages with handwritten information, one of which is in French: "The bearer ... the wife of a citizen of Mohilev, with 3 children ...has permission to board."  I assume that this was their official authorization to leave the Empire.  It is dated a week before I find her on a ship's manifest with the 3 children.  How did someone get such a passport?  Were they common?  I assume that those who traveled by wagon and were smuggled across were those without passports.  Was there a completely different system in place for those traveling legally and illegally.  Or, were the arrangements the same for everyone once they crossed the frontier?   I note that the name on the manifest was different than the one on the passport, so that was not the basis for the travel arrangements outside of Russia.  

I'd love to see a point-by-point narrative of how such a fraught journey was arranged and managed.  Any suggestions?

Lee Jaffe 
JAFFE/STEIN/SZTEJNSAPIR/JOROFF/ZAROV/BRAUN/WEINBLATT/SCHWARTZ/SCHWARZMAN/LUDWINOWSKA


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