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Re: Coordination between Ancestry.com and JewishGen #general

Sarah L Meyer
 

It is my understanding that those databases that originated on Jewishgen and are stored on Ancestry servers, would be free on Ancestry.  Other databases such as JGFF were never available on Ancestry and are only available on Jewishgen.  To the best of my knowledge there was never any "priority" for Jewishgen donors.  Jewish is included as a type of collection.
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: Handwritten notations on Ship Manifests #general #records

Susan&David
 

Your question has come up on this forum before. See the explanation of manifest markings here:
https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/Manifests/

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 12/30/2020 10:19 AM, Gail H. Marcus via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
I found a 1920 ship manifest for a relative that handwritten notations for almost every family group on the page.  I've looked at several articles about such notations and can't find anything that explains this particular format.  The entries are of the form #-######  ##/##/##.  In most cases, the first digit is 2.  The 6 digit number (in one case, it is 7 digits) vary all over the place.  The final numbers look like a date, but the puzzle is that most of the dates, if they are dates, are in the 40s, but this manifest is from 1920.  I would have guessed these might be passport dates or something, but the fact that they are in the 40s, and almost every family group shows such an entry has me puzzled.  I've attached the page for review.  Can anyone explain these notations. 

Thanks for any help on this, and a safe and Happy New Year to all!

Gail Marcus

Attachments:



Descendants of Yosef Meir Weiss the "Imrei Yosef" #romania

sardeba@...
 

Hi All
My paternal great grandmother Rivka Basch (maiden name)  was born in Sapanta, Romania.  After marrying my great grandmother, she lived in Sighet, Romania.  According to my father, who was born in the 1920's and lived in a small town that was across the Tisa River in Czechoslovakia and not far from Sighet Romania, a rabbi who was a descendant of the "Sapinka Rebbe" and a relative of my grandmother's family, visited my father's family multiple times during my father's youth.  I know that Yosef Meir Weiss, the founder of the Sapinka Hasidic rabbinic  dynasty, married Perel Basch who was the daughter of Ezra Yaakov Basch of Sapanta, Romania.  I haven't, to date been able to establish a connection between my paternal line and that "Sapinka Rebbe".  I am looking for additional information from known descendants of Yosef Meir Weiss and Perel Basch, either genealogical or via DNA testing, that would determine if my paternal line had any genealogical connection to Ezra Yaakov Basch.  My father's DNA info is available on multiple genealogical sites so DNA matching is a possibility.
I appreciate any information that you may be able to offer!
Sarah Appel


Handwritten notations on Ship Manifests #general #records

Gail H. Marcus
 

I found a 1920 ship manifest for a relative that handwritten notations for almost every family group on the page.  I've looked at several articles about such notations and can't find anything that explains this particular format.  The entries are of the form #-######  ##/##/##.  In most cases, the first digit is 2.  The 6 digit number (in one case, it is 7 digits) vary all over the place.  The final numbers look like a date, but the puzzle is that most of the dates, if they are dates, are in the 40s, but this manifest is from 1920.  I would have guessed these might be passport dates or something, but the fact that they are in the 40s, and almost every family group shows such an entry has me puzzled.  I've attached the page for review.  Can anyone explain these notations. 

Thanks for any help on this, and a safe and Happy New Year to all!

Gail Marcus


Herrnstadt family can anyone identify those people in this photos #germany #israel #photographs

igael@...
 

These are pictures of the Herrnstadt family. The family of Rudy Rolf Grab's mother who fell while servicing the Jewish Brigade (ww 2) and is buried in the British Military Cemetery in Ramla. I'm researching his life story and I'm missing a picture of him. I'd be happy if someone recognizes those in the (small) photo (especially the child). The soldier's mother was named Else and is believed to be in the picture with her brothers and sisters. The picture was taken from a postcard sent to the family grandfather (probably in 1927) the second big picture is of the whole family (date unknown). I'd be happy for any I.D. Please distribute the images and we may be able to identify those filmed in them

Yoram Igael


Re: Old Montefiore cemetery gravestone pictures #usa #photographs

Steve Stein
 

Wellwood is "next door" to NEW Montefiore in Suffolk County. See the map on the JGS website at https://www.jgsny.org/ny-area-research/jgs-cemetery-guides.

Steve Stein


Re: ROZZIN / ROSEN from Minsk region #belarus #usa

Gerald and Margaret
 

I suggest you contact The Together Plan, a charity based in London and Belarus, which helps Jews in Belarus become self sufficient.  One of their projects is genealogical research.  They are skilled in many languages and have the advantage of knowing all about the local bureaucracies !!

www.thetogetherplan.org.uk

Good luck with your search,

Margaret Levin , 
Londo, UK


Bergman family in Toronto #canada

Neil Rosenstein
 

Subject: Bergman family in Toronto
Trying to make contact with the family of Selig Bergman (died in
Toronto in 1988) and his wife Miriam (died in 2018). His father was
Lazar Bergamn who married Leb, daughter of Esther (nee Eichenstein of
that Chassidic Dynasty) and Issachar Shual Teichman. Their children
are Allen Bergman, married Beverley and Helen, married David
Spiegelman of Toronto.
Neil Rosenstein


Re: Naturalization record index cards #records

mandy.molava@...
 

Hello all

I have been trying to find records for my great grandparents who came to England from Brest 1905-1907 roughly. I've looked at Ancestry's ship records etc, nothing to be seen here .... Has anyone got any pointers? 

Thank you in advance 
Mandy Molava
Researching Brest Slovakia Hungary and much more ! 


Re: Coordination between Ancestry.com and JewishGen #general

mandy.molava@...
 

Hello

I believe Family Search hold all the records that Ancestry have or had and have made them into documents that make more sense at times too I believe. Have you tried Family Search ? It's completely free and easy to get around. I think I have located my Great grandmothers birth certificate for 1877 in Slovakian church records there. 

Mandy Molava 
Researching Brest, Slovakia, Hungary and much more ! 



Kamienczyk during WWI? #poland #general

David W. Perle
 

My grandfather--who died before I was born--was a boy in Kamienczyk, Poland, during WWI.  A story passed down involves how he nearly died when a foxhole that he was in during WWI fighting caved in.

I'm not looking for a lot, but I'm trying to find other references/accounts of anything specific that occurred there during WWI.  I've Googled.  Another other leads/insight?

David Perle
Washington, DC

Researching PRZEGRODA, BLUM, PERLE, ARONOWSKY, SMOLEY/SMOLA, GOTTLIEB (Newark NJ from Austria-Hungary),
KROLL, COLLIER/KALIR, SKORA...


Re: Niveravitzk, Russia - Can anyone help with identifying this place correctly? #russia

Ina Getzoff
 

Steve:
I wonder if "Niveravitzk, Russia, is possibly Neshvitz, which was in Belarus in the 1890's and early 1900's. Belarus, now, of course, is an independent country but was part of Russia at one point, part of Poland at another point and finally became independent. Unfortunately, their records are still very hard to get.
 
Ina Getzoff
Delray Beach, Fla.


Re: Death registration in 1916 Warsaw. Where would I locate a "street map" to locate the addresses? #warsaw

Sherri Bobish
 


Jacqueline,

You can find addresses by looking up names in old digitized city directories here (many cover Poland):
https://genealogyindexer.org/directories

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: How do I use the "Declaration of Intention" to find the actual naturalization papers? #records

Moishe Miller
 

Diane,

You indicate Sam is your brick wall and you want to find his death record and burial. I presume this is to go back in time. I too could not find Sam after the 1930 census. 

It would seem that this is Sam's 9 Jun 1924 marriage to Ceil Hahn: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2473-94J 
It indicates his parents were Pesach Katz and Freida Greenberg.
Why do I think this might be his record and his parents?
The 1922 declaration of intent you supplied indicates he arrived via the Finland and that he was born in Bucharest. It does mention a "blank" day in August 1906 for his arrival. The attached is the 1 Aug 1906 ship manifest, and on line 18 there is a Samuel Katz.
Also, paging forward  in the Ancestry version of the declaration of intent book does show the attached 1925 court notice, giving his address as 366 South 1st Street, not the 66 Rivington  address. This matches the 1 Jun 1925 census for a Sam and Ceil Katz, off by one house number, at 364 South 1st Street, per attached, bottom left, rows 47-50, showing Sam from Romania, Ceil, and twins. Strangely, there is only a 7 May 1925 Manhattan birth record for Lila, but not Leonard, as per attached. Confusingly, perhaps the Lila listed in the attached, is NOT the Lila born to Brooklyn parents Sam and Ceil, but rather the Manhattan parents of Nathan and Ida Katz (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X42H-N4Q). 

Based on the detail of Sam's parents, this is the 1915 census record, which in Ancestry can be found here:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/6716896:2703?indiv=try&viewrecord=1&r=an

The 1914 marriage of Sam's brother Abraham (listed with him on the ship manifest) shows his parents as the same Pesach and Freida. See https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2431-1FZ
This Pesach passed in 1919. See either
FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WDB-JYV
Ancestry: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=61778&h=349653&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=2703

Pesach's parent were Shabsi (Shopse) and Anna. You can locate the exact plot here: http://www.mountzioncemetery.com/search.asp
Good luck and stay safe, 

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
moishe.miller@...
JGFF #3391


Re: Naturalization record index cards #records

Moishe Miller
 

Hi,

Bob Silverstein asked:
How can I use the naturalization record card to find the naturalization
petition and related documents?

Depending on the county, he may be able to leverage the scanned
petitions on FamilySearch. An example of how to do this can be found for
some of the NYC courts, here:
http://www.jgsob.org/KingsNY-naturalizations.html

Bob's signature indicates he is from Illinois. The FamilySearch catalog
at
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog
would be the place to start. As an example, there are 18 recordsets for
United States, Illinois - Naturalization and citizenship

Stay safe,
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
moishe.miller@...
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Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
moishe.miller@...
JGFF #3391


Coordination between Ancestry.com and JewishGen #general

david.izraelevitz@...
 

Hi,

I remember that there was some agreement between JewishGen.org and Ancestry.com to coordinate databases, I believe with some delay to give priority to JewishGen donors, but I wonder whether this is still in force. There seem to be quite a few JewishGen records that are no longer "linkable" via Ancestry.

Happy New Year, and thank you to the community for sharing your knowledge and passion through these pages!

David Izraelevitz
ISRAELEVICZ (Tauragnai/Utena), LEWO, PRUSKI (Varena, Alytus), MIKHLES (Vilijampole), SHVARTZ, KHAIKEL (Kaunas, Kedainiai), MEDINZ (Seta/Kedainiai)


Searching for Betty Levi family from Hessen Kassel in the 1800s #germany

joannorris3@...
 

I am trying to find the names of my great great grandmother's parents or siblings.  Betty Levi was born in 1837 in Hessen Kassel, but I don't know what township. She emigrated, possibly alone, to America in 1853 at the age of 16, and lived in both Baltimore and Cumberland, Maryland. She married Harmon White from Austria in 1866 and they raised their family in Cumberland, Maryland until separating in the late 1800s.  Betty died in Baltimore in 1913.  I would appreciate any suggestions for this search.
Joan Norris


Does anyone have this individual on their family tree? SCHWARTZ, Kalman #romania

Roy Ogus
 

Does anyone have this individual on their family tree? 
 
Name:  SCHWARTZ, Kalman
Born:  ~1880 in Vaslui, Romania
Parents:
  Father: Kalman (not 100% sure of name)
  Mother: Mina FRAERSTEIN
Died in 1932
Let me know directly if you match this information on your family tree.  Many thanks!
 
Roy Ogus
r_ogus at hotmail.com
California, USA


Re: Help with extra person mentioned in Slutsk Chevra Kadisha record #belarus #records

Gerald and Margaret
 

I suggest you contact The Together Plan, a Jewish charity based in London and Belarus, which aims to help remaining Jews become self sufficient.  One project is genealogical research.  They have the huge advantage of speaking many languages plus a lifelong experience of the local bureaucracies  !! 

www.thetogetherplan.org.uk

Margaret Levin
London UK


Re: Wolk family #lithuania

David Wolk
 

Mike Coleman,

Thanks for your suggestion.  Unfortunately the name of the sibling who is believed to have gone to England is unidentified.  When the mother, Lena, emigrated to the U.S. in 1908, the papers she completed upon arriving in New York indicated that one of her daughters remained in Lithuania.  Unfortunately this information was written illegibly so the name remains unknown.  There are, to my knowledge, no other existent documents covering that daughter.  
Details have now been located for the daughter who went to the U.S.

David Wolk

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