Re: Herrnstadt family can anyone identify those people in this photos #germany #israel #photographs

Simon Srebrny

I can't answer your question, but I have put together a modest, incomplete tree of this Herrnstadt family.
Else Herrnstadt, wife of Oscar Grab, was born in Lissa on 21 Feb 1884.

Simon Srebrny
from London, living in Berlin

Re: How many "first names" did people have? #names

Jeremy Lichtman

I've frequently seen this in Polish or Lithuanian records.

People typically had two names. They were generally interchangeable (unless they only liked one of them!), which is odd to people today who are used to a first name / second name schema.


Jeremy Lichtman
Toronto, Canada

Descendants of Harry and Anna(Feldman) Katz #usa


Harry Katz, b. April, 1888, Bucharest, Romania ,and his wife, Anna Feldman,b. circa 1891, had three children, all born in New York. Isadore Irving Katz, b. 29 Jan. 1917 - d. Nov. 1975; Hyman Katz ,b. 28 Feb 1918-d. April 1998; and Ethel Katz, b. @ 1921- no other information beyond the US Census 1940. These three siblings were my mother's first cousins. I would love to be able to contact their children , or grandchildren.
 Another avenue of finding my grandfather, Sam Katz, the youngest sibling of Harry (Chune) Katz . I am unsure of any marriage partners of the three. I have checked the marriage indexes , but am unable to narrow it down. 
    Thank-you , again for all your help!
   Diane Preston
   N.Stonington, CT 

Info on Selig Schlesser b. 1898 #usa

Richard Stower

I am looking for any information on Selig Schlesser who was an actor in the Yiddish Theater in NYC in the 1920s.

Thank you.

Richard Stower
Yarmouth, Maine
Dobrowa Tarnowską: KANNER, SCHMIDT, WERNER

Schwartz connection - Chicago/Aurora, IL #usa #general

Kelley Conrad

I have an unknown great-grandfather on my father's side (his mother's father) and recently had a relatively close DNA match on that side. His DNA match is close enough to me that he could possibly be a half-brother or nephew to my grandmother and cousin to my father. He knows very little about his family so I've hit a roadblock. My grandmother was born in NH 1916 and there's another close DNA match who is possibly her 1/2 sister (father unknown), born in the 1930s in Aurora, IL.

He wrote that he might have had an aunt who married into the Walgreens family. His surname is Schwartz and his father was originally from Chicago, IL. His father ran away from home at age 10 or 11 and never returned, but they believe the father's sister married into Walgreens. I don't have any dates of birth/death and he is unsure of his grandfather's given name. He believes the grandfather's name was Samuel Schwartz, but isn't 100% sure. 

Has anyone heard of a Schwartz-Walgreen connection? Anyone with Schwartz family from Chicago with a family tree I could take a look at? It's like finding a needle in a haystack since I don't have dates or much info.  

I appreciate any info!

Thank you,
Kelley Conrad
Upton, MA

Re: United Hebrew Cemetery St. Louis, MO #usa #names #photographs


Hi Debbie,

My husband who is originally from St. Louis said to contact Berger Funeral Home and Rindskof
Funeral Homes as they may have records from that era.  

Anne Goldfarb (Chana Rachel Kean

Re: Brittany centfraniers, ennobled from 1400 to 1600, Leroy, LeJuiff #france #records

Sue Nusbaum

The Book by Herve Torchet: Accounts of the Duc of Bretagne 1420-1433, available through, may provide the information you are seeking, if your ancestors bought nobility. 

"Fouages" were a royalty or tax paid by household. Torchet has published several books about changes in the Fouages. One is for Saint-Malo where my ancestors are from: The Reformation  of the Fouages of 1426, Diocese of Saint-Malo. 

These "Fouages" books are quite expensive, 215 Euros, plus shipping. 

Sue King Nusbaum
Longboat Key, FL, US

R' Moshe of Kletzk -18th Cent. #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari

There was a Moshe of Kletzk in the 18th cent. who was the father of
Rabbi David of Novarodok( the " galya Mesechta") during the 19th cent.
I do not know what his surname was , if he had one at all. I know that
he was not EISENSTAT who was a colleague of his, also from Kletzk.
His son, Rabbi David, seems also not have had a family (that I know
of). Does anyone know of any descendants of the above Moshe or if he
had a family name?

According to family lore my great great grandfather was a brother of
the above Rabbi David. Our family name was ABRAMOWITZ but no source
that I have seen mentions this family name with the above Moshe or his
son David. It is recorded that David's son , Moshe, adopted the family
name of his father-in-law HOROWITZ (from Minsk). Rabbi David's
son-in-law who published David's book was a RABINOWITZ.


Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

Who is the better option for DNA: siblings or father and son? #dna


Hi, I'm told that two relatives taking DNA tests give a better idea  but I wondered if anyone knew which is the better option out of a father and son or two brothers. We're hoping to find unknown relatives who stayed in Poland or went to the USA.
Thanks for any help,
Carol Cambers

Re: Descendants of Yosef Meir Weiss the "Imrei Yosef" #romania

Peninah Zilberman

Shalom Sarah,


Indeed “Spinka Rebbe” , from Marmaures has a large Dynasty in Bnei Brak, a religious suburb of TLV, Israel.

I just checked on Google, there are some sources which can help you to reach the people you are looking for

Good Luck

Peninah Zilberman


Peninah Zilberman


Canada 1-416-781-0330

Israel 972-54-228-8141



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Re: Tombstone translation #translation

Mike Coleman

For the avoidance of doubt, should such be needed by any reader, my posting of the tweaked image is simply as an aid for a third party attempting a translation.

Mike Coleman, U.K.

Re: Sephardic SIG Are Tsentsiper/Zenziper/Sensibar out of Belarus of Sephardic ancestry? #sephardic

Kevin Brook

As I told Joshua via private email when he asked me the same question in August 2019, the Ashkenazic surname Zenziper/Tsentsiper isn't considered Sephardic by any of the name experts such as Alexander Beider. I am sure it isn't. It was almost certainly first assigned to Jews in the early 19th century.

Legitimate Sephardic surnames in Ashkenazic communities include Algazi, Alfasi, Kastel, and Abarbanel.

Kevin Alan Brook

Re: DNA Testing on Karaites #dna

Kevin Brook

My East European Karaite DNA study's results have been published in a peer-reviewed journal:

"The Genetics of Crimean Karaites" by Kevin Alan Brook
in Karadeniz Araştırmaları (Journal of Black Sea Studies), No. 42 (Summer 2014): pages 69-84

I also presented a summary of these results on pages 213-215 of my peer-reviewed book "The Jews of Khazaria, Third Edition" (Rowman and Littlefield Publishers, 2018).

Kevin Alan Brook

Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

Kevin Brook

I have two pieces of good evidence for this.

1. A member of the Sephardic-turned-Ashkenazic family Abugov (the Russified form of Abohab) studied in Dvinsk, a city which is now in Latvia under the name Daugavpils.

2. Autosomal DNA matching established Sephardic links to an Ashkenazic family from Rēzekne, another Latvian city, as I wrote in my article "Sephardic Jews in Lithuania and Latvia" in the August 2016 issue of ZichronNote, Journal of the San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society, after I received written permission from the living named participant:

"Judith Simon, a co-administrator of the two Iberian Ashkenaz projects at Family Tree DNA, grew up fascinated by the oral history related by her culturally Ashkenazic maternal grandfather, Shaya Brozgol (who changed his name to Sam Gold), that his ancestors on his father’s side included Sephardic Conversos who left Spain during the Inquisition. Brozgol was born in 1892 in Re_zekne, a city in eastern Latvia where his ancestors had also lived during the 1700s and 1800s, and married another Ashkenazic Jew from there. The family’s story of Sephardic heritage led some of Shaya’s cousins to move to Spain."

"Judith and several members of her family had their autosomal DNA tested, and two male paternal descendants of her Brozgol line had their Y chromosomal DNA tested. Family Tree DNA and GEDmatch provided matches that confirm the story. Judith, her brother, and her maternal aunt Pearl Freed share a triangulating identical-by-descent autosomal segment with seven Latin American Hispanics, and Pearl has several additional segments that match multiple Hispanics including Mexican-Americans with deep roots in northeastern Mexico and a Puerto Rican."

"The Brozgol Y-DNA lineage is also suggestive of Sephardic ancestry since not only does one of their closest matches (Belarusian Jewish) have an oral history that their paternal line came from the Ottoman Empire, but they also match Hispanics from Mexico and Texas whose most distantly known paternal-line ancestors centuries ago had Spanish first and last names. However, estimates vary widely on when the common Y-DNA ancestors of the Brozgol men and the Hispanics lived, making the autosomal results more definitive."

The total amount of Sephardic DNA in Litvaks is small - often no more than the average Mexican Catholic has - but finding them matching each other autosomally is powerful evidence supporting the genetic study Jan Meisels Allen posted to this group on 1/14/2019 in her message titled "(Latin America) Genetic Study of Latin Americans Reveals History of Converso Migration" that included some Mexican samples.

Kevin Alan Brook

Re: Cape Verde Jewish roots? #dna #sephardic

Kevin Brook

DNA ethnicity estimates are not the only, or the most accurate, way to determine this answer because they can give false positives as well as false negatives. MyHeritage DNA's and Family Tree DNA's Sephardic Jewish categories are not foolproof, particularly the former.

It's more significant to find autosomal DNA cousin matches who are Jewish (either Sephardic or Ashkenazic), but don't automatically trust that those matches are real because short segments need verification. Extensive rounds of triangulation among 6 or more matches and two-sided parent-child phasing using GEDmatch's tools helps to distinguish real matches from identical-by-chance matches. Merely matching one or two Jews randomly isn't enough; you would have to establish a pattern where a cluster of them match on the same chromosome across the same start and end positions and that they also match each other in the same location. I also recommend ignoring matches that fall entirely within Excess IBD Regions because those are notorious for false matches.

Y-chromosomal testing is far less likely to yield Jewish matches for the average descendant of Sephardic Conversos, compared to autosomal DNA tests.

I have not yet seen a Cape Verdean match to a Sephardic DNA segment but indications are that it would be possible based on what we know about the island's migrational history. I have confirmed the existence of Sephardic DNA segments in mainland Portuguese Catholics, Azorean Portuguese (from the Azores Islands), and Brazilian Catholics.

Kevin Alan Brook

Re: December 2020 Summary of IAJGS Records Access Alert #general #jgs-iajgs #records

Marjorie Geiser

For anyone NOT subscribed to this, i just want to say you're missing out on some fabulous information! Thanks, Jan, for the work you do in these.

Margie Geiser
Arizona, USA


Re: United Hebrew Cemetery St. Louis, MO #usa #names #photographs

Michael Hoffman

Hi Debbie,

Contact the St Louis Genealogical Society which has a Jewish SIG see access the communities section for Jewish.
also see the following ask them if they could visit the grave and take a digital photograph for you.

Michael Hoffman


Re: Photo of headstone in Portsmouth needed, please #unitedkingdom


I belong to 'Find a grave' website, it's worth joining in my opinion. You can put out a request for a headstone photo and it also works by someone who has joined Find a grave to pop along to their local to have a look for you and take a pic if they find it, or if they happen to be there anyway visiting the graves of their loved ones.

Hope this helps?

Mandy Molava
Researching Belarus, Brest, Hungary, Galacia

Re: How many "first names" did people have? #names

Adam Cherson

This may not apply to your fact pattern, but I have sometimes seen the patronymic style of naming, A ben B, turned into the name A B. In other words the father's given name becomes the surname of the son. In this instance, perhaps Yeruchim is Yeruchim Elkhanan (or just Chanan)  ben Tsvi Girsh, which then becomes Yeruchim Tsvi or Yeruchim GIrsh on various records, while to his family he remains known as Chona.
Adam Cherson

Re: Photo of headstone in Portsmouth needed, please #unitedkingdom

Martyn Woolf

There are a few photos of headstones in the Fawcett Road Cemetery in Portsmouth, Hampshire, England. The cemetery is actually in Southsea which is adjacent to Portsmouth but the community was one.
If you go to the following website it might help.

Best regards for 2021
Martyn Woolf

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