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Re: Who is the better option for DNA: siblings or father and son? #dna

Sarah L Meyer
 

If he tested at FTDNA, they keep his sample for 25 years - and I have used a 7 year old sample to upgrade Y tests.  You can also use that sample for family finder or mtDNA

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Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: Autosomal Analysis Question #dna

Sarah L Meyer
 

I read with interest this discussion.  My mtDNA haplotype is X2b7 so not M33.  But in my mother's paternal line we all have inherited a slightly Asian or Mongolian eye fold.  It shows up primarily at birth and in old age, in between those ages it is not as noticeable.   To the best of my knowledge it is a dominant trait, as we all have had it.  It is stronger in some of us than others.  When my son was born, it was so strong that his doctor did some tests and assured me that he would have normal intelligence. (He has a PhD).  I had to reassure the doctors that this was a family trait and not a matter for concern.  I have always wondered where this came from.

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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Fuks (Bajla, Bejla, Hinda Pessa, Rzezak) Lodz area, Poland search for fate of half sibling #poland #lodz #names #records

Sharon E Siegel
 

We are searching for information about children born to our father Israel Rzezak and his first wife Hinda Pessa Fuks Rzezak. they lived in Lodz, Poland. 

Hinda had children born to this couple before their marriage, marriage was in 1929. 

We believe there was a child Bejla born June 2, 1927 or possible 1923.  We believe Hi with Fuks as last name, but could have been Rzezak.  We believe this child, Bajla Fuks born 1923 (address Holz 16) was transported to Chelmo (Kulmhof) Extermination Camp on June 28, 1944.   There is a record 225, transport 223 on Jewish Gen records, but we do not know how to obtain this actual record.

We do not know the other child's name.

Hinda and both children were murdered in the Shoah. 
Any information possible is appreciated. We cannot hire a researcher, unfortunately. We are working hard to do this on our own.
Sincerely, Sharon & Stanley Siegel, Port Jervis, NY 12771
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Port Jervis, NY USA


Re: Question On Becoming A Citizen in 1920s Canada #canada

Teewinot
 

Hi Janette,

The other information that doesn't fit your narrative is that person's
nationality as U.S. when applying for Canadian citizenship. That person
would have had to been in the U.S. for 5 years to gain U.S. citizenship.
That means, if he arrived in Canada in 1920, and say he left Canada
immediately upon receiving U.S. citizenship, he would have been in the
U.S. from at least 1915.
Yes, I'm aware of the rules for citizenship in the U.S. I know he (Sam)
probably came early, because his uncle arrived in Montreal in 1899
(according to his U.S. naturalization papers) and then boarded a train
to NYC and settled there, although, so far, I haven't found the uncle on
a manifest (ship did not arrive on the date and year listed on the
papers). I suspect the brothers traveled together with Sam, but I have
yet to prove that. So, the U.S. citizenship doesn't concern me, since
it would fit. What I don't get is how Sam could have gained Canadian
citizenship so fast - immigrating to Montreal in 1920 and taking the
Oath of Allegiance in 1923. How was he able to cut out two years of the
process? That's what puzzles me. This side of the family has always
been a huge mystery, and this is just one small part of that!

On a side note, by any chance would you happen to be related to an
Abraham Silverman of NYC, who died in 1970? He was the owner of Lenox
Wallpaper. The original family name was Krasnopolsky.

Thanks!
Jeri Friedman
Port Saint Lucie, Florida

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Re: Help Unraveling a Mystery #latvia

aweitzman.ret@...
 

Good morning Max,

Could you provide me the web address for the Riga archives. It may be one I've already checked or could be a new one for me.

Thanks.

Allen Weitzman


Re: ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation #poland #russia

ryabinkym@...
 

In Russian:

 

Согласно исполнительному листу Люблинского окружного суда от 4 октября 1911 года за номером 10467, Люблинский окружной суд постановил: акт о смерти Давида-Лейбы Блютуха, составленный чиновником гражданского состояния Люблинского еврейского округа от 11 (23) марта 1897 года за номером 100 испаравить в том, дабы после слова "умер" впереди фамилии "Блютух" вместо имени "Хаим" вписаны были имена "Давид-Лейб", а после слов "Оставив жену" перед словом "Добу" вписано было "Байлю" - город Люблин, 9 октября 1911 года.

 

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Translated into English:

 

According to the writ of execution of the Lublin District Court of October 4, 1911 No. 10467, the Lublin District Court ruled: the death act of David-Leiba Blutukh, drawn up by an official of the civil status of the Lublin Jewish District of March 11 (23), 1897 No. 100, should be corrected in that, so that after the word "died" in front of the surname "Blutukh" instead of the name "Khaim" the names "David-Leib" were inscribed, and after the words "Leaving his wife" before the word "Doba" was inscribed "Bailya" - the city of Lublin, October 9, 1911.

 

Civil Status Official Signature


Translated by Michael Ryabinky
Columbus, OH


Re: How many "first names" did people have? #names

Alex Magocsi
 

I have an issue related to this topic.  It concerns the family name GREIF from Fulyán HU, now Fulianka SK.

At time of his birth, the Mother of Herman Greif (born abt. Oct 1862 in Fulyán) is shown as Rivka Schneider.

Upon his marriage in NYC, the Mother of Ignatz Greif (born abt. Jul 1859 in Fulyán) is shown as Lina Schneider
Upon his death in NYC, the Mother of said Ignatz is shown as Regina Schneider.

On each of the transcribed documents, the Father's name is Josef, or some form thereof.

My gut feeling is that the names Rivka and Regina could be interchangeable but the switch from Lina to Regina is throwing me off and I hope someone will comment on these names.
I have not seen actual certificates but rather transcriptions.

Regards
Alex Magocsi
Hamburg Germany


Re: Question On Becoming A Citizen in 1920s Canada #canada

Janette Silverman
 

Hi Jeri:
The other information that doesn't fit your narrative is that person's nationality as U.S. when applying for Canadian citizenship. That person would have had to been in the U.S. for 5 years to gain U.S. citizenship. That means, if he arrived in Canada in 1920, and say he left Canada immediately upon receiving U.S. citizenship, he would have been in the U.S. from at least 1915.
Janette Silverman
Phoenx, AZ and Salt Lake City, UT


Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

Michael Sharp
 

Sephardi Jews reached the Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth by two routes:

1) flight from Spain to the Ottoman Empire and then migration through the Balkans to Poland
2) converso settlement in the Netherlands and then trading to the Baltic ports

The printing industry in Poland was to a large extent established by Sephardi Jews and some towns such as Zamosc, were when established as shtetls by the local noble, largely settled by Sephardim, valued for their commercial expertise and trading contacts
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Michael Sharp
Manchester UK
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Transcript please, German #germany

Reuven Stern
 

Dear fellow gersigers,
I will appreciate transcripts of these two documents
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89358
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89359
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Reuven Stern, Kfar Vradim Israel


ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland #translation

Kay Miller
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

 

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89345

 

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

 

Thank you very much.

Kay Miller




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ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland #translation

Kay Miller
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

 

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89346

 

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Kay Miller

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Polish Translation #translation #poland

Kay Miller
 

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

 

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89347

 

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Kay Miller




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ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland #translation

Alex Guri
 

Hello,

I've posted vital records in Polish for which I'd appreciate a translation.
They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM88918
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89338
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89339
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89340

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much,
Alex Guri


Re: Gravestone photo from the Mount of Olives? #photographs #israel

Andy Monat
 

The page for that grave appears to be here: https://mountofolives.co.il/he/deceased_card/%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%97%D7%9D-%D7%A6%D7%91%D7%99-%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%98%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A5-yeruham-zvi-rotkowitz/#gsc.tab=0

It has section this which I believe gives the text of the inscription:
על מצבתו/ה נכתב:
"פנ ירוחם צבי ב'ר ברוך מווילנא נ' כו' תשרי תרע תנצבה רוטקוביץ "
ירוחם צבי רוטקוביץ1
 
However, there doesn't seem to be a photo for that grave, unlike some others I've seen on their web site. (For example, http://mountofolives.co.il/he/deceased_card/%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9D-%D7%98%D7%95%D7%91-%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%90-%D7%9C%D7%90-%D7%99%D7%93%D7%95%D7%A2/#gsc.tab=0)

I have noticed that their web site has been flaky in the past, so that some times it wouldn't load. Now there's a little box with the letter "i" in a circle, and text which Google Translate says means that the site is under construction, and you can note errors etc using the comment form at the bottom of the page.


Abram ROSENBERG Piotrkow Poland #poland

Carin Miller
 



 

Begin forwarded message:

From: Carin Miller <carmil36@...>
Date: January 2, 2021 at 2:51:08 PM EST
To: main@...
Subject: Piotrkow Poland

I am trying to find information about my great grandfather, Abram Rosenberg, and his ancestors.  He and his family left Piotrkow between 1905 and 1907 and I have all of their immigration information. However, I was unable to find any information about  ancestors after multiple searches about Piotrokow on  both JRI and JG.
I understand that there is no current curator for Piotrokow and maybe that is part of the problem.
The only useful information I was able to get from was from a naturalization record was that Abram’s  wife’s maiden name was Ester Besso. They had 5 children David ( my grandfather), Pauline (Pesse), Samuel, Rose (Rachel), Frank and Howard.
Carin Miller
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GREENBAUM: Akron (Ohio), Pittsburgh (Pennsylvania), and Natafalva (Hungary) #hungary

Andy Monat
 

I'm looking for GREENBAUM relatives of my ancestor Maly GRUNBAUM/GREENBAUM who was from the village of Natafalva, Hungary, which is now Nacina Ves, Slovakia. If you are a descendant of people by that name from Natafalva I would be grateful to hear from you, especially the family I describe below.

There is one family which seems to have been of that surname from Natafalva who moved to Akron, Ohio. Here is a summary of some records for them:
1. The 14 September 1901 marriage of Alexander S GREENBAUM in Akron. He is age 25, born in Natafalva to Bernath GREENBAUM and Charlotte KANNER.
2. The 1912 marriage of a Harry GREENBAUM to Anna Gertrude WHITELAW in nearby Barberton, Ohio. Harry was born in Natafalva to Bernath GREENBAUM and Charlotte KANNER. There's a 1908 naturalization record for what seems to be the same person, in Pittsburgh, saying he was born 1 November 1886 in Natafalva, Hungary, emigrated from Hamburg on 21 October 1904, declared his intention on 2 June 1904 in Pittsburgh, and in 1908 resided in Duquesne, Pennsylvania.
3. The 16 July 1914 immigration of Bernat and Zseni GRINBAUM (husband and wife) at Ellis Island from Hamburg, along with Dora GREENBAUM (listed as a house maid), going to their son Alexander GRINBAUM in Akron, and admitted after being held for special inquiry.
4. The death of a Bernard GREENBAUM in Cleveland died 1926 age 74, arrived in the US 12 years earlier, son of Joseph GREENBAUM and the former Hanna MYRAVITS (?). Bernard and his parents all born in Natafalva. Informant name hard to read but lived in Akron.
5. The 1929 marriage of Dora GREENBAUM of Akron, daughter of Bernard GREENBAUM and Jeanette KANNER.
6. It appears that Jennie GREENBAUM died 23 August 1936, and that she and her husband Bernard were buried at Lansing cemetery in Cleveland.

Thank you,
Andy Monat
Massachusetts
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Translation Request - Hungarian #hungary #records

Alan Klein
 

I am requesting a Full translation of one entry in the Hungarian Civil Registration of Marriages -- 1922
It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89364    (All Column Headings)
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89365    (Fulop-Friediger entry}

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Thank you so much,

Alan Klein


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Gravestone photo from the Mount of Olives? #photographs #israel

Peter Cohen
 

Does anyone know how to get a photo of a grave on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem? The person in question, Yeruchim Tsvi Rotkowitz, died in 1910. A family member is known to have seen the grave in 1967 after the 6 day war.
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Peter Cohen
California


ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation #poland #russia

Greg Tuckman
 

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