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Trying to make contact with the Lehman and Sultan families of NYC #usa
Trying to reach descendants of Mordecai Leshczynski (Lestchinsky),
father of Mushka who married and lived in Coney Island, NY (mother of
Florence) and Chaika who married M. Lehman (parents of a daughter who
married F. Sultan of New York.
Thank you Jeffrey and Alexander for your supporting statements.
As Jeffrey stated, I did NOT say that I personally believe that Jews did not make good soldiers. I used the word "generally" deliberately to encompass a variety of beliefs espoused at different times by Stalin, General Anders, and others in the military hierarchy and, as Jeffrey says, Russian soldiers. Neither does my statment obviate the achievements and casualties of Jewish soldiers. I was remarking on a generalised attitude which often resulted in Jews being sent into work battalions often in remote parts of the USSR.
Mike - that your family has suffered great losses on the battlefields is extremely sad but bears no relationship to my statement about Soviet attitudes in the 1940s.
The accusation of anti-Semitism in this context is not only inaccurate but hurtful.
One of my uncles, Isador Fogel, was known by Cuddy. I never met him, as he was killed on Saipan. I will check with one of my cousins, to see if he knows the source of the name.
Hello, Seeking assistance: 1) In need of a translation of the Yiddish writing on the back of the family photo (probably taken in Ratno Poland); and 2) Any insight into the (military?) uniform worn by the young man in the middle. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Searching for FRISHBERG, SHAPIRO/SHAPIRA/SZAPIRO, GINGOLD - from Ratno, Poland
Post-WWII Records for USA #records
My father's first cousin, Raymond Zussman, was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his role in capturing a French town during WWII. (See https://www.cmohs.org/recipients/raymond-zussman ) He was a tank commander with the US Army and was killed in action, by friendly fire, a few days after his act of heroism.
This proved to be of great value many years later when I had business to conduct in the Pentagon. My Army handler led me on what appeared to be a wild goose chase through the vast building until we came to the display case where the names of the recipients are posted. I knew what I was looking for, found it quickly, and pointed it out to my handler. He asked me to wait while he made a phone call. That was the end of the BS from the Army; thereafter, they were very accommodating.
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1911 UK Census #records
Paul G. Mayerowitz
Searching: MORDKOVITCH, GOLDSTEIN, GOULD, GREEN (Nowy Dwor, Poland, London, England, New Jersey, USA); MORDKOVITCH, GREEN (London, England); MAYEROWITZ, MAYROWETZ (Ukraine, New Brunswick, New Jersey); BRAUNER
Re: Vinitsky/Winitsky from Detroit, Mich. #usa
I am the descendent of Hirsh Winitzky, who changed his name to Harris Venezky when he came to the United States from Odessa. He first resided in NYC until his marriage; he then moved to the Alliance Colony in southern New Jersey. I believe he was born about 1862. He had two brothers (I need to look up their names in my research) who came over when he did, but they returned to Europe shortly thereafter; I have not researched what became of them yet.
We recently moved, so I’m still unpacking notes and hooking up computers, so it may take me a bit of time to research, but I will. I am also in contact with other Winitzky families, too.
Judy Myers Bolton
Ocean Pines, MD
Researching: WINITZKY/VENEZKY (Odessa, Ukraine); NAGEL, FINGERHUT (Zbarazh, Ukraine); BARR (Ozeryany, Ukraine); CHAIKEN/JACOBS/ROSENBERG (St. Petersburg); NAVSON/NISSEN (Kovno, Lit.); PAVLOVSKY (Zmerinka, Ukraine); DOMASHOWITZKY (Slonim, Belarus)
Please contact me privately if you know the descendants of siblings Anna WOLFOWITZ COMMIKE (1891-1993) and Hyman WOLFOWITZ (1893-1966), both born in Lithuania, emigrated to US (Perth Amboy NJ, Bronx, NY). Descendants include Herman (Hyman) COMMIKE (1913-2004)(Bronx, Lawrence, NY), Ellen COMMIKE SCHIEREN, Carolyn COMMIKE, Lillian COMMIKE PYES (1919 Bronx-2000 San Diego), Judith, Roger and Beth PYES, Sylvia WOLFOWITZ ALTSCHULER (b~1920), Edith WOLFOWITZ LEVINE (b~1922).
They are related to my GITTES family (Lithuania and Perth Amboy, NJ)
San Francisco Bay Area
Researching: GOLDSHMIDT,GITTES(GADIE,GADYE,GIDUT,GDUD, GOIDA),F(P)ILVINSKY,SHOLOMOVICH(SHLIOMOVICH, SHLOMOVICH) Lithuania: Seta, Kaunas, Jonava, Ukmerge,Vandziogala, Kedainiai, Merkine,
Vilijampole, Adutiskis, Zemaiciu Naumiestes
TOBIAS,ROZHANSKY,MIRANSKY,BILINSKY, PROTAS Belarus: NovyySverzhen, Stowbtsy,Yasevichi, Mir
GUREWICZ,DROZNAN, HALPRIN Belarus: Dauhinava, Vileika
KOENIGSBERG,WAKS(X)MAN Poland: Sandomierz, Ostrowiec
SONNENBLIK Galicia Poland: Lancut, Kanczuga
DAVIS(D), HAFNER Romania: Botosani,,Roman
San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland
Town or village of Piotrkow #poland
My great grandfather immigrated from Piotrkow but his naturalization papers indicate that he was born in a town called Naza. I googled the town but I was not able to get any information. I will try JG or JRI. I imagine the town was so small it may not exist at this time but if anyone has heard of it please let me know.
Cutti is also used as a nickname for Yekutiel a biblical figure.
Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem
Are you looking for BeMdersky or BeNdersky. My maternal grandmother's maiden name was Bendersky and I have never heard of the name Bemdersky.
Daniel Nussbaum II, M.D., FAAP
Retired Developmental Pediatrician
Rochester, New York
Tone can be misinterpreted in email. Please read my words with warmth, kindness, and good intentions.
Nussbaum, Katzenstein, Mannheimer and Goldschmidt; Rhina, Raboldshausen and Bad Hersfeld, Germany
Teplitzky, Bendersky and Kaszkiet; Uman, Ukraine
Rosenthal and S(c)henk(el)man; Zinkov, Ukraine
Bild and Kashlevsky; anywhere
Dave and Melanie Bloom
My Bloom changed from Blum (likely closer to the Cyrillic transliteration) in Cleveland in the early 20th C. Best I can tell, the family is from Bauska, Latvia, although there are mentions of Kuldiga, Goldengen, Riga, and Broush (can't find this one anywhere). The only pre-immigration ancestor I can find anything about is Avraham Dov Blum (b. approx 1820, d. 1897).
Mt Vernon, WA
Jan Meisels Allen
Australian genomics company, myDNA, announced a merger with the US based FamilyTree DNA, and its parent company Gene by Gene. The CEO of myDNA, Dr. Lior Rauchberer will be the CEO of the merged companies. Cofounders of Gene-by Gene Bennett Greenspan and Max Blankfield will join the board of directors.
The myDNA test is a functional pathology test that reports on how genetic factors may influence the ways in which medications affect individuals. Different people metabolize and eliminate medications differently, and at various speeds.
According to the companies, At myDNA, consumer privacy is paramount. myDNA believes the importance of the consumer's ability to trust in the privacy of their genetic information, and retain control over it, cannot be overstated. Along the same line, Gene by Gene and FamilyTree DNA will continue acting in the field of Genetic Genealogy, their original business, keeping intact their privacy rules and all terms of service.
To read more see:
Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
You might find male matches on FTDNA because they chose to take a Y test with this company and while doing so went ahead and added an autosomal test. The other companies mentioned do not do specific Y testing although 23&me will report a haplogroup. When I look at results at FTDNA, I first sort by longest block, and then look at total cM, and only bother contacting those who have added surnames. I figure that if they haven't bothered to add names/places, they either don't know enough to make a connection or likely won't respond. The results below are for a second cousin I tested because I wanted to see if I could determine which sons of my great grandfather shared the same mother. Family lore said that he had many wives who died in childbirth. In any case, the results below are for those who shared a long block of 32 cM or more and listed names/places. There are two things to take from this. The match who has Weinberg in bold is my first cousin. I don't appear in the list. Test first cousins if older relatives are not available. You widen your chances of finding matches. Second, the next best match is the one who shares total cM of 179. What you can't see below is that he also shares the same surname and place as my family. However, he spelled the surname Wainberg instead of Weinberg. Don't just sort based on surname because there are too many different versions of the same name. Their search algorithms are literal.
Re: RUBIN Family--Not Much Information #usa
Have you tried to figure out when the photos were taken? That would help a lot in narrowing the possibly families.
No sites search other sites for matches. Uploading raw data to as many sites as possible increase the chances of finding matches with folks who have not transferred their data out of the one site they tested with. The exceptions are 23andMe and Ancestry, which do not take uploads. That is why you get the best “bang got the buck” by testing at one of those two and then downloading the raw DNA from them and then uploading to all of the sites that take uploads.
From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of Dahn Cukier via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Help suggestions please #dna
You wrote: The other main sites you need to be on are FTDNA and 23andMe, otherwise you have to sit back and wait for relatives to do a test.
Do these sites find people in other ways? Do they scan all other
sites for matches?
I am on FTDNA and get very few suggested matches. I am on
MyHeritage and Ancestry. Most of my relatives seem to have
registered on one of these, the other has given a few matches
I have had some luck finding relatives that are matched as 3rd and 4th
cousins and have a recognized family name.
When you start to read readin,
Паулина 9 декабря 1915 года (возможно)
Любовь минуты друг,
Дающей нам мученья;
Они от лучших чувств
(не ясно) отреченья.
Любовь минуты друг,
И долговечный друг враг
Забудь и научись
Не плакать и не любить
О верь отрадной быть
Чем не любя, любимым быть.
Володя Буркан (возможно)
Пусть росчерком почерка послужит память, хотя об этом (не ясно) сохранить память (не ясно) своей подписью Подпись
Поэма, которую я нашел на интернете:
Translated into English:
Paulina December 9, 1915 (possibly)
Love is a minute friend
Giving us torment;
They are from the best feelings
(not clear) renunciation.
Love is a minute friend
And long-lasting friend enemy
Forget and learn
Don't cry and don't love
Believe it to be pleasant
Than not loving, to be loved.
Volodya Burkan (possibly)
Let the memory serve as a stroke of handwriting, although this (not clear) preserve the memory (not clear) with your signature Signature
Poem I found on the internet:
Oh, if you knew how deeply sorry I am
That, being loved, I am satiated with love;
With you at midnight, leaning against the head,
I was one soul, there was sadness with me.
Will you understand me, I was waiting, looking for deception;
I longed with all my soul to be forgotten by a sweet dream.
But there is no love, I am convinced
Sleepless eyes saw their sight too early.
Understand my words! Understand that this is so!
Love is a mirage of fate that gives us torment
She is a mute reflection of the best feelings -
Love is a momentary friend and long-term enemy.
I pray, do not torment me with your hidden suffering,
Forget it and learn not to cry, not to love.
Oh, believe, it is more pleasant to be deceived, forgotten,
Than not loving, to be loved!
12 / XI - 22 y. Dear Clara from
V.Zh.T dearly am. classmates
Uch. VII class Sony
Sep 12, 2011 — Любовь – минутный друг и долголетний враг. Молю, не мучь меня своим страданьем скрытым, Забудь и научись не плакать, не любить. О, верь, отрадней быть обманутым, забытым, Чем не любя, любимым быть!
Try contacting Yad Vashem. They have just finished an online poetry of the Holocaust program and so they likely have some experts who could give you ideas where to search if they can't help you. I assume you have checked with Romanian University Literature Departments?
Jan Meisels Allen
The Board for Certification of Genealogists (BCG) released a 2021 edition of the BCG Application Guide. The new guide reduces BCG’s renewal requirements and clarifies several issues for new applicants. It also incorporates changes involving the ethical use of DNA that were implemented in October.
BCG also released a revised set of new-application rubrics. The respect for privacy rubrics RR12, CS8, and KD10 have been reworked to reflect the recent revision of Standard 57 and the code of ethics.
Individuals who have already submitted a preliminary application or whose renewal applications are due before 1 January 2022 are not subject to the new 2021 guide. They are subject to the 2019 guide unless they elect otherwise or apply for an extension.
The new guide and rubrics can be downloaded from BCG’s website. The guide is available at https://bcgcertification.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/BCG-Application-Guide-2021.pdf
The rubrics are available at https://bcgcertification.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/BCG-New-Application-Rubrics-2021.pdf
Changes to Renewal Requirements
The change to renewal requirements reduces the number of allowable work samples from three to two and the page allowance from 150 to 100. Additional guidance is provided to help certificants select at least one renewal work sample that meets the Genealogical Proof Standard (GPS). To address a common misunderstanding, the guide also notes that GPS work samples need not be complex.
Changes to New Applications
One of several clarifications for new applicants addresses the scope of analysis needed for Requirement 3-D in the BCG-supplied document work. Applicants often overlook important aspects of the document they are given. The guide provides more details about the type of discussion needed to meet the standards associated with rubrics DW6‒DW9.
The new guide also addresses a problem commonly seen in case studies. Many applicants submit the wrong kind of study because they misunderstand what is meant by an identity problem. The guide now specifies that “a study about a single identifying characteristic of a person such as their date or place of birth” does not meet the requirement.
Changes to DNA Standards and Code of Ethics
The DNA-related changes, announced in October and applied retroactively to applicants subject to the 2019 guide, are also included. The changes, involving Standard 57 (respect for privacy) and related parts of the Genealogist’s Code of Ethics, make it easier to share DNA match details in a private setting such as BCG’s certification process. The new guide refers applicants to “DNA Resources” on BCG’s website for more guidance on meeting Standards 51–56.
To conform with the October changes, the new guide also eliminates the requirement to include permission from any living individuals mentioned in the kinship-determination project. This change should not be taken as encouragement to submit a KDP that includes multiple living individuals. Strong KDPs rarely include living individuals due to limited record availability and privacy restrictions.
BCG’s newly revised Genealogist’s Code of Ethics can be viewed here: https://bcgcertification.org/ethics-standards/code/
BCG’s newly provided guidance on DNA can be found here: https://bcgcertification.org/learning/dna-resources/dna-frequently-asked-questions-faq/
Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee