Re: Russian translation #translation #russia

Alexander Sharon


It appears that name in the original document is Птица (Ptitsa) which in your translation show as translated Bird. IMHO family names are not subject to translation.
On the other hand, Shamuel is looking for translation of the document of family Pianica.

Alexander Sharon

Re: Tracing my GGF's first wife #general


Hi Harlan, 

I can think of these possibilities :
1)  Abraham Cohen  did not arrive to NYC in 1888 but later (after all, Cohen is a very common surname), 
2) Peshe Cohen and her children  that arrived in 1892, were not related to your g grandfather (a different family) 
3) Peshe gave false ages for her children (not unusual in passenger lists) making them a couple of years younger. 

You write that in one of Abraham's children's marriage record,  the name of the mother was given as Anna Mabish. Peshe and Anna are very different names but this,  of course,  proves nothing. What about the other children. Perhaps if you could obtain death certificates you could verify her maiden name. 

I find it hard to believe that Abraham divorced his first wife. Most probably she died. If they were divorced you would have traced her in some later records (census, death etc.) 

Giannis Daropoulos 


New JewishGen Class starts Feb 7 - Feb 28 - INDEPENDENT STUDY #announcements #education #general

Nancy Holden

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Re: Krakow records #records #galicia

Michael Hoffman

Hi Yossi,

Do a search on the following website this website is specifically for researching our ancestors who originate from Krakow.

Michael Hoffman


Researching SCHAMROTH, URVATER, MAJER Krakow, Poland, USA, Belguim, UK, Israel. 

Re: Ethical Responsibilities of Genealogical Organizations during the Global COVID-19 Pandemic #education #guidelines

Max Heffler

I appreciate Dr. Paul’s advocacy for our protection. My wife and I have decided we will not likely take any flights this year and a hybrid component would be helpful for those of use making this decision.


Max Heffler

Houston, TX




Max Heffler
Houston, TX

Trouble Updating trees submitted to FTJP #general #guidelines



For years I have had a tree on FTJP and since 2018 I have tried uploading a new version as I have found a complete branch is incorrect.  Last attempt was in October 2020 when I emailed the gedcom to the submissions email address.  I have checked my tree again and it is still wrong.  I have searched the FAQs but I can't find how to delete my tree.  Does anyone know how I can get this done please?
Rachel Poole

Searching: LEVIN/E- Belarus, UK, SILVER - UK, Russia/Poland, COHEN- - Latvia, UK, LYPSYZC/LIFSHITS/LYONS - Belarus, UK, USA

Re: Ethical Responsibilities of Genealogical Organizations during the Global COVID-19 Pandemic #education #guidelines


It's amazing how we have so easily slipped into a totalitarian mindset without any actual evidence at all. 
Showing vaccination certificates will become the equivalent of showing a pass in Apartheid South Africa or a yellow star for many of our family members. 

At the moment we know almost nothing about the long-term efficacy of available vaccines, their risks (in low risk people) in the real world,
whether they prevent transmission in any substantial way.. and a bunch of other things. A whole lot of science needs to be done before the yellow stars get handed out. 

The lessons from the last pandemics (for example involving Pandemrix) are largely undiscussed and many people never even know what even happened.  There were so many lessons that need learning from past experience not least of which the human and scientific ones. 

Dr Aubrey Blumsohn

Sheffield, UK

Re: Maisons-Laffitte internment camp #france

Bernard Flam

Hi from Paris,

Dear Paul,


My GGF and GF were Galizianer, immigrating with an Austrian citizenship to France in 1925.

Thus they have been submitted to these laws concerning German & Austrian citizens as soon WWII started in September 1939.

I had never heard neither read about Maisons-Laffitte camp before your post.


But I knew what happened to my family's men, my GGF, his 2 sons and my GF as son-in-law.

They have been interned in a small camp in Paris, called "Stade Buffalo" (because Buffalo Bill presented his cow-boy show there) during a few days or weeks.

Then they have been transported to a larger camp, Meslay du Maine, where they were detained during ca. two months, before 1939 end.

Detention conditions were fair, according to their testimonies and I have some pictures taken by them.

Remember that during this period, it was still "phoney war", blitzkrieg started in April 1940.


In these camps, Austrian / German Jews could quite easily make choice to enroll French "Foreign Legion" or some GTE, Groupe de travailleurs étrangers, foreign workers group, to replace at work young French citizens who have been mandatory enrolled due to national mobilization.


Most of these has been sent to North Africa French territories (Full French Department as Algeria, Protectorat as Marocco and Tunisia) as not being in situation to fight directly nazis soldiers.


After French surrender and occupation of northern part of country, these Legionnaires have been discharged in southern and not occupied part of France.


Some stayed there, some returned to Paris.


The fact of being former French Legionnaire didn't prevent any of them to suffer risk of deportation as any others Jews in France. A lot have been killed.

Fortunately, all mine survived.


Back to your question.


With a quest on French Google "Maisons Laffitte camp internement 1939", I found 4 - 5 good references.

I attach one, but how is your French ? I know, nobody is perfect...


It seems that like "Stade Bufalo", Maisons-Laffitte camp had been used for a short while because it was not far from Paris, before transferring detainees to larger camps in France.


At this moment, I guess we can get some data on the camp but I am not sure names lists could be archived. I check.



Bernard Flam

Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring ( Bund-Workmen Circle of France)


Re: Ethical Responsibilities of Genealogical Organizations during the Global COVID-19 Pandemic #education #guidelines

Kenneth Packer

Thank you Jeffrey for your thoughts.  I believe that for our type of conference, in-person is best.  It allows for the best sharing of ideas and research.  I know, as I have been to two conferences so far.  But with Covid, a hybrid would be prudent for those who can not get there, whether it is because of cost, health, travel, or other responsibilities.  AND, most importantly, all those who attend in person should be required to show proof of Covid vaccination.  Stay safe, wear a mask!

Never let a genealogical stone go unturned.


Ken Packer

Washingtonville, NY

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Yiddish translation - 1941 letter from Ufa in the U.S.S.R. #translation

Mike Coleman

I should be grateful for a full translation of the attached letter, from someone in Ufa to his aunt in Massachusetts.


Many thanks,

Mike Coleman  London U.K.

Please connect me to 2 researchers of ROZENFELD from Miedzyrzec Podlaski #poland


Hello Genners,
I am hoping for some network effects here. I am searching the family tree of Lejbko ROZENFELD of Miedzyrzec Podlaski. There are two other individuals who have posted his information but I cannot contact either one. Inna Feldman posted a tree on, and Barbarasnowak posted another on Ancestry. If anyone can put me in touch with either of those people, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thank you,
Tammy Weingarten
Searching: Lerner, Rozenfeld, Appel, Blumengold, Ajzen, Zilberbarg, Lichtenbarg, Zurtek, Cienki from Miedzyrzec Podlaski and Wisznice

Re: Ethical Responsibilities of Genealogical Organizations during the Global COVID-19 Pandemic #education #guidelines

Stephen Weinstein

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 04:16 AM, Jeffrey Mark Paull wrote:
it could take a full year – until January 2022 – for every American to get at least one shot,
Since many Americans will refuse to be vaccinated and some Americans cannot receive the vaccine due to allergies, not every American will get at least one shot by January 2022 or any other time.

This raises another question relating to genealogical in-person events: Should proof of vaccination be required before atteding?  If so, should those who cannot receive the vaccine due to allergies be barred from the event?  Or should they be admitted, but not those who voluntarily decide not to be vaccinated?

I think we are a long way away from needing to decide this.  If you are correct that it would take that long for the number of doses administered in the U.S. to equal the U.S. population, then it would take about that long it would take to fully vaccinate everyone willing and able, assuming two doses per person and that about half the population is willing and able to be vaccinated.  (If half the population gets two doses, and half gets none, due to refusal or allergies, that is an average of one dose per person.)
Stephen Weinstein
Camarillo, California, USA

Krakow records #records #galicia

Yossi Jalas

I am researching my family's Krakow roots and have two questions regarding extant records from Krakow.

1) How would I go about requesting the Krakow Archiwum for certain scans from the "Krakow Kataster" records? Do they have an index?
Do they release these records upon request?

2) I have located many documents and photographs of family members living in the Krakow Ghetto in 1940-1941 in a) "Starosta Miasta Krakowa (Sygn. 450). Wykazy dowὀdow osobistych (Kennkartenlisten) wydanych Żydom" located on the JHI-Ringelblum website, b) "Karty Rejestracyjne Żydow Krakowskich (Sygn. 218/34/1-264)" searchable via the USHMM website. The problem is that records for certain people are missing even though I know they were in the ghetto until sometime in 1941 when they show up on the outbound transit lists. Are there more records in these collections that are not accessible online? Are there are any other records from the Ghetto extant?

Any help & pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Yossi Jalas - USA

Re: Database of diaries and letters #russia #translation


Haha. In that part of the world, there was a lot of frost!

I was trying to use the search by dates, which you would think would work, but I couldn't get it to. 
Tema Frank
Edmonton, Canada

Moldova research from JewishGen #bessarabia


Some time ago, JewishGen announced they would be adding thousands of records from the records from archives in Moldova. It appears nothing has been added for quite a while. Is there any update on this project? My own family research depends on this. In particular, the town of Kishenev.

Thank you.

Bob Rosenthal
Palatine, IL USA

Tracing my GGF's first wife #general

Harlan Weller

I am trying to solve the mystery of my GGF's first wife.  This is the information that I have to work with (although it is not 100% reliable, as I am jumping to some conclusions by interpreting passenger lists)

My GGF Abraham Cohen, travelled alone from Lazdijai to NYC in 1888 (via Hamburg)
His first wife travelled from Lazdijai with 6 children in 1892.  The passenger list refers to her as Peshe Cohen (and there is an inconsistency with the fact that the youngest children were born after 1888, so I am not entirely sure I have the right record)
The marriage record for the oldest of these children refers to his mother's name as Anna Mabish
My GGF married his second wife in January 1893 in Louisville..

Assuming that my GGF was a bigamist, that means either
1. .  His first wife died after she came in 1892, or
2.     They were divorced.

I am hoping someone on this board can give me direction to follow.  For example, does anyone know of Divorce records from that era?


Harlan Weller


Seeking info on Ilse (nee: Jordan) Klappholz #germany #holocaust

Myra Fournier

Ilse Klappholz (nee: Jordan) was born on June 19, 1916 in Magdeburg.
She was married to my paternal uncle Alfred Klappholz and they had a son, Wolfgang Klappholz, born on March 5, 1934.
Ilse and Alfred were divorced in 1941 and because she was not Jewish, she left Wolfgang in Alfred's care.
Alfred remarried to Else (nee: Lecker) in 1942, and both he and Else perished at Auschwitz in 1944.
Wolfgang had been placed in an orphanage and was subsequently cared for by a foster fatheee, Gustav Dehne, and his wife. The last contact was in 1947.
To my knowledge, Ilse had no contact with Wolfgang after a few visits to the orphanage in 1944.
She reported that she lived with her new parents-in-law, the Fanghaehnel family in Erzgebirge, and returned to Magdeburg in 1945.
She last noted that in 1946 she had been living with the Pass family at Wiener Strasse 26, and working as a waitress in the Russian rations center in the Hncke barracks.
No further information.

Thank you.

Myra Fournier

Seeking daughter of Gabriel and Allegra Lecker in Israel #israel

Myra Fournier

Gabriel Lecker was the step-uncle of my cousin Wolfgang Klappholz (born March 5, 1934 in Magdeburg, Germany).
Gabriel's sister Else was the second wife of Wolfgang's father Alfred Klappholz, so Wolfgang's stepmother.
Else and Alfred perished in Auschwitz in 1944, but Wolfgang was sent to an orphanage and then was in the care of Gustav Dehne and his wife in Magdeburg.
He was known to have survived the war, but no contact was made after 1947.
Both Gabriel and Allegra (nee: Shol-El) Lecker are deceased, but I was hoping that their daughter (name unknown) might know what happened to Wolfgang.
I would also like to make her acquaintance because she is an in-law.

Thank you.

Myra Fournier

Seeking info on Gustav DEHNE in Magdeburg during WWII #germany #holocaust

Myra Fournier

Gustav Dehne was the foster father of my teenage cousin Wolfgang Klappholz (born: March 5, 1934 in Magdeburg) during WWII.
They are known to have resided at Vogelgasang 1 in Magdeburg in the 1940's. However, no-one was in touch after 1947.
While Gustav is obviously no longer alive, Wolfgang might still be.
Any information about Gustav's relations would be helpful.
Gustav and his wife were childless, but might have had nieces and nephews who would know what happened to Wolfgang.
Thank you.

Myra Fournier

Re: Database of diaries and letters #russia #translation


Thanks for sharing this, Tema.  I have saved in a file the names of my ancestors' towns in Cyrillic, so I was able to search for diary entries that mention those places.  

I also tried searching for references to my Moroz relatives in the diaries.  Unfortunately, the literal translation of Moroz is "frost," so I ended up with tons of diary entries referencing frost!

Ellen Morosoff Pemrick 
Saratoga County, NY


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