Ethical Responsibilities of Genealogical Organizations during the Global COVID-19 Pandemic #education #guidelines


The situation is actually a lot more complicated than has been suggested:
The two vaccines approved so far are effective at preventing serious symptoms from SARS-CoV-2, but the medical community is still waiting to see whether people who have been vaccinated can still spread the virus.  
The answer will probably come from Israel, where every adult should be vaccinated by the end of February; if it does, there should be a dramatic drop-off in new cases there within the next few weeks. The effect in the US should be the same.  Other vaccine candidates still in the pipe-line may be better at stopping the virus from spreading.  If one emerges that can stop transmission, it should be used preferentially to the two currently being administered; people who have received the first two may have to get the new one as well.
If people who have been vaccinated can still transmit the virus, the next open question comes into play: How long does the protection offered by the vaccines last?  At the rate of vaccination envisioned by Pres. Biden, we will reach "herd immunity" no earlier than August, i.e., eight months after vaccinations began.  If the vaccine doesn't provide at least eight months protection, and doesn't stop transmission, we'll be little closer to the end of the pandemic in August than we are now; some fraction of the public will be protected from serious consequences at any one time, but that's it.  People who have not been vaccinated, and those whose vaccine protection has been lost will remain vulnerable.
Plans for any face-to-face meetings during the coming summer ought to consider that this August may be little different from last August from the perspective of the pandemic.
Sorry, but that is the reality.
Yale Zussman

Re: Krakow records #records #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta

I would advice yo follow Michael Hoffman's recommendation. If it does not yield results you should take a private researcher in Krakow.

Jacob Rosen


Deportations in Poland during nazi occupation #holocaust #poland

Jorge Frankon

Please, I would like to know where can I find information or research
about deportations in Poland during nazi occupation.
I am looking for information of where members of my family Frankon,
Frenkel, Frankel, and Kowalsman may have been deported from Zuromin,
Mlawa and Raciaz, in Poland.
Many thanks,
Jorge Frankon
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Re: Sephardic resources new for 2021 Rootstech #sephardic #events #announcements

Schelly Talalay Dardashti

There will be several Sephardic talks and other Jewish genealogy talks. I am presenting Sephardic Resources; Todd Knowles is doing Jews of the Caribbean; Genie Milgrom is speaking; Rabbi Jordi Gendra Molina is speaking, etc. As always there will be numerous Ashkenazi-focused talks. But this year has a record-breaking number of Sephardic-focused programs.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti 
New Mexico

Re: Russian translation #translation #russia

Alexander Sharon


It appears that name in the original document is Птица (Ptitsa) which in your translation show as translated Bird. IMHO family names are not subject to translation.
On the other hand, Shamuel is looking for translation of the document of family Pianica.

Alexander Sharon

New JewishGen Class starts Feb 7 - Feb 28 - INDEPENDENT STUDY #announcements #education #general

Nancy Holden

JewishGen offers its popular Independent Study class - Feb 7 - Feb 28
rite your own project and work one-on-one with an instructor.


This is Do-it-Yourself, computer-based, online instruction.

The instructor will provide you with individual handouts according to your research needs.

Students must feel comfortable using a computer and searching databases online.


Registration: Tuition is $150. Enrollment is limited (10 students). This class has students worldwide; the Forum is open 24/7.


You may create any type of genealogical project: shtetl-based, one surname study, a variety of narrative reports or quests for missing family data. Let your imagination create a project around your research interests.

To apply, send the instructor your project details.

  • The Objectives you would like to achieve in 3 weeks.
  • Names dates and Places
  • Clues or Roadblocks
  • Records Searched
Send your proposed project and/or questions to Nancy Holden, Director of Education.--
Nancy Holden
Director of Education

Re: Krakow records #records #galicia

Michael Hoffman

Hi Yossi,

Do a search on the following website this website is specifically for researching our ancestors who originate from Krakow.

Michael Hoffman


Researching SCHAMROTH, URVATER, MAJER Krakow, Poland, USA, Belguim, UK, Israel. 

Re: Ethical Responsibilities of Genealogical Organizations during the Global COVID-19 Pandemic #education #guidelines

Max Heffler

I appreciate Dr. Paul’s advocacy for our protection. My wife and I have decided we will not likely take any flights this year and a hybrid component would be helpful for those of use making this decision.


Max Heffler

Houston, TX




Max Heffler
Houston, TX

Trouble Updating trees submitted to FTJP #general #guidelines



For years I have had a tree on FTJP and since 2018 I have tried uploading a new version as I have found a complete branch is incorrect.  Last attempt was in October 2020 when I emailed the gedcom to the submissions email address.  I have checked my tree again and it is still wrong.  I have searched the FAQs but I can't find how to delete my tree.  Does anyone know how I can get this done please?
Rachel Poole

Searching: LEVIN/E- Belarus, UK, SILVER - UK, Russia/Poland, COHEN- - Latvia, UK, LYPSYZC/LIFSHITS/LYONS - Belarus, UK, USA

Re: Ethical Responsibilities of Genealogical Organizations during the Global COVID-19 Pandemic #education #guidelines


It's amazing how we have so easily slipped into a totalitarian mindset without any actual evidence at all. 
Showing vaccination certificates will become the equivalent of showing a pass in Apartheid South Africa or a yellow star for many of our family members. 

At the moment we know almost nothing about the long-term efficacy of available vaccines, their risks (in low risk people) in the real world,
whether they prevent transmission in any substantial way.. and a bunch of other things. A whole lot of science needs to be done before the yellow stars get handed out. 

The lessons from the last pandemics (for example involving Pandemrix) are largely undiscussed and many people never even know what even happened.  There were so many lessons that need learning from past experience not least of which the human and scientific ones. 

Dr Aubrey Blumsohn

Sheffield, UK

Re: Maisons-Laffitte internment camp #france

Bernard Flam

Hi from Paris,

Dear Paul,


My GGF and GF were Galizianer, immigrating with an Austrian citizenship to France in 1925.

Thus they have been submitted to these laws concerning German & Austrian citizens as soon WWII started in September 1939.

I had never heard neither read about Maisons-Laffitte camp before your post.


But I knew what happened to my family's men, my GGF, his 2 sons and my GF as son-in-law.

They have been interned in a small camp in Paris, called "Stade Buffalo" (because Buffalo Bill presented his cow-boy show there) during a few days or weeks.

Then they have been transported to a larger camp, Meslay du Maine, where they were detained during ca. two months, before 1939 end.

Detention conditions were fair, according to their testimonies and I have some pictures taken by them.

Remember that during this period, it was still "phoney war", blitzkrieg started in April 1940.


In these camps, Austrian / German Jews could quite easily make choice to enroll French "Foreign Legion" or some GTE, Groupe de travailleurs étrangers, foreign workers group, to replace at work young French citizens who have been mandatory enrolled due to national mobilization.


Most of these has been sent to North Africa French territories (Full French Department as Algeria, Protectorat as Marocco and Tunisia) as not being in situation to fight directly nazis soldiers.


After French surrender and occupation of northern part of country, these Legionnaires have been discharged in southern and not occupied part of France.


Some stayed there, some returned to Paris.


The fact of being former French Legionnaire didn't prevent any of them to suffer risk of deportation as any others Jews in France. A lot have been killed.

Fortunately, all mine survived.


Back to your question.


With a quest on French Google "Maisons Laffitte camp internement 1939", I found 4 - 5 good references.

I attach one, but how is your French ? I know, nobody is perfect...


It seems that like "Stade Bufalo", Maisons-Laffitte camp had been used for a short while because it was not far from Paris, before transferring detainees to larger camps in France.


At this moment, I guess we can get some data on the camp but I am not sure names lists could be archived. I check.



Bernard Flam

Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring ( Bund-Workmen Circle of France)


Re: Ethical Responsibilities of Genealogical Organizations during the Global COVID-19 Pandemic #education #guidelines

Kenneth Packer

Thank you Jeffrey for your thoughts.  I believe that for our type of conference, in-person is best.  It allows for the best sharing of ideas and research.  I know, as I have been to two conferences so far.  But with Covid, a hybrid would be prudent for those who can not get there, whether it is because of cost, health, travel, or other responsibilities.  AND, most importantly, all those who attend in person should be required to show proof of Covid vaccination.  Stay safe, wear a mask!

Never let a genealogical stone go unturned.


Ken Packer

Washingtonville, NY

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Yiddish translation - 1941 letter from Ufa in the U.S.S.R. #translation

Mike Coleman

I should be grateful for a full translation of the attached letter, from someone in Ufa to his aunt in Massachusetts.


Many thanks,

Mike Coleman  London U.K.

Please connect me to 2 researchers of ROZENFELD from Miedzyrzec Podlaski #poland


Hello Genners,
I am hoping for some network effects here. I am searching the family tree of Lejbko ROZENFELD of Miedzyrzec Podlaski. There are two other individuals who have posted his information but I cannot contact either one. Inna Feldman posted a tree on, and Barbarasnowak posted another on Ancestry. If anyone can put me in touch with either of those people, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thank you,
Tammy Weingarten
Searching: Lerner, Rozenfeld, Appel, Blumengold, Ajzen, Zilberbarg, Lichtenbarg, Zurtek, Cienki from Miedzyrzec Podlaski and Wisznice

Re: Ethical Responsibilities of Genealogical Organizations during the Global COVID-19 Pandemic #education #guidelines

Stephen Weinstein

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 04:16 AM, Jeffrey Mark Paull wrote:
it could take a full year – until January 2022 – for every American to get at least one shot,
Since many Americans will refuse to be vaccinated and some Americans cannot receive the vaccine due to allergies, not every American will get at least one shot by January 2022 or any other time.

This raises another question relating to genealogical in-person events: Should proof of vaccination be required before atteding?  If so, should those who cannot receive the vaccine due to allergies be barred from the event?  Or should they be admitted, but not those who voluntarily decide not to be vaccinated?

I think we are a long way away from needing to decide this.  If you are correct that it would take that long for the number of doses administered in the U.S. to equal the U.S. population, then it would take about that long it would take to fully vaccinate everyone willing and able, assuming two doses per person and that about half the population is willing and able to be vaccinated.  (If half the population gets two doses, and half gets none, due to refusal or allergies, that is an average of one dose per person.)
Stephen Weinstein
Camarillo, California, USA

Krakow records #records #galicia

Yossi Jalas

I am researching my family's Krakow roots and have two questions regarding extant records from Krakow.

1) How would I go about requesting the Krakow Archiwum for certain scans from the "Krakow Kataster" records? Do they have an index?
Do they release these records upon request?

2) I have located many documents and photographs of family members living in the Krakow Ghetto in 1940-1941 in a) "Starosta Miasta Krakowa (Sygn. 450). Wykazy dowὀdow osobistych (Kennkartenlisten) wydanych Żydom" located on the JHI-Ringelblum website, b) "Karty Rejestracyjne Żydow Krakowskich (Sygn. 218/34/1-264)" searchable via the USHMM website. The problem is that records for certain people are missing even though I know they were in the ghetto until sometime in 1941 when they show up on the outbound transit lists. Are there more records in these collections that are not accessible online? Are there are any other records from the Ghetto extant?

Any help & pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Yossi Jalas - USA

Re: Database of diaries and letters #russia #translation


Haha. In that part of the world, there was a lot of frost!

I was trying to use the search by dates, which you would think would work, but I couldn't get it to. 
Tema Frank
Edmonton, Canada

Moldova research from JewishGen #bessarabia


Some time ago, JewishGen announced they would be adding thousands of records from the records from archives in Moldova. It appears nothing has been added for quite a while. Is there any update on this project? My own family research depends on this. In particular, the town of Kishenev.

Thank you.

Bob Rosenthal
Palatine, IL USA

Tracing my GGF's first wife #general

Harlan Weller

I am trying to solve the mystery of my GGF's first wife.  This is the information that I have to work with (although it is not 100% reliable, as I am jumping to some conclusions by interpreting passenger lists)

My GGF Abraham Cohen, travelled alone from Lazdijai to NYC in 1888 (via Hamburg)
His first wife travelled from Lazdijai with 6 children in 1892.  The passenger list refers to her as Peshe Cohen (and there is an inconsistency with the fact that the youngest children were born after 1888, so I am not entirely sure I have the right record)
The marriage record for the oldest of these children refers to his mother's name as Anna Mabish
My GGF married his second wife in January 1893 in Louisville..

Assuming that my GGF was a bigamist, that means either
1. .  His first wife died after she came in 1892, or
2.     They were divorced.

I am hoping someone on this board can give me direction to follow.  For example, does anyone know of Divorce records from that era?


Harlan Weller


Seeking info on Ilse (nee: Jordan) Klappholz #germany #holocaust

Myra Fournier

Ilse Klappholz (nee: Jordan) was born on June 19, 1916 in Magdeburg.
She was married to my paternal uncle Alfred Klappholz and they had a son, Wolfgang Klappholz, born on March 5, 1934.
Ilse and Alfred were divorced in 1941 and because she was not Jewish, she left Wolfgang in Alfred's care.
Alfred remarried to Else (nee: Lecker) in 1942, and both he and Else perished at Auschwitz in 1944.
Wolfgang had been placed in an orphanage and was subsequently cared for by a foster fatheee, Gustav Dehne, and his wife. The last contact was in 1947.
To my knowledge, Ilse had no contact with Wolfgang after a few visits to the orphanage in 1944.
She reported that she lived with her new parents-in-law, the Fanghaehnel family in Erzgebirge, and returned to Magdeburg in 1945.
She last noted that in 1946 she had been living with the Pass family at Wiener Strasse 26, and working as a waitress in the Russian rations center in the Hncke barracks.
No further information.

Thank you.

Myra Fournier

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