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Re: First name of Zelik #names

Marcel Apsel
 

Chilik is a pet name for Yechiel.  Little Yechiel.

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


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Re: First name of Zelik #names

Marcel Apsel
 

Zelig is a phonetic variant from Selig, from the German and ‘Old English’ meaning ‘blessed, holy’.  A Yiddish first name common among Jews of the 18th and 19th century.

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


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Help interpreting last name / patronymic on Lithuanian marriage record #records

Ann Scher
 

On the screenshot below from the marriage of Israel FRAIZINGER to Khode GERBER, I am uncertain how to interpret the bracketed names of the bride and groom's parents. The name ISRAELEVICH appears to refer to the first name of Israel's father's father (patronymic) based on other records. However what does SHERSHAVICH refer to under Leizer Gerber? I am related to this family in some way through the Sharshevich name so I don't think this refers to a first name. Could it be the maiden name of the mother Khana?

Thank you.

Ann Scher


Re: Golub, Prussia 1830's, 1840's #germany

sjgwed@...
 

Small correction - JBS is Jewish Broadcasting Service. At jbstv.org 
Good luck!

Susan J. Gordon


Re: First name of Zelik #names

Irwin Keller
 

Judy,

I don't know the name Zimel. But Zanvel, I believe, is a diminutive of Ze'ev. So for that person you would want your eyes open for someone names either Zev or Wulf (both meaning "wolf"). 

Not mentioned yet is the other than Shlomo, from which Solomon derives, the most common Yiddish reflex for Solomon is Zalman. 

As for Zelig, besides being an inexact counterpart to Solomon, have folks had experience seeing it as a Yiddish equivalent of something closer to the meaning "holy?" For instance there is someone in my tree who I think was a Zelig and also a Baruch. (I know "holy" and "blessed" are not quite the same; another Baruchs are also called Bendet, which I presume to be from Benedict, which is more exact in the "blessed" meaning.)

Just curious!


Irwin Keller
Penngrove, CA, USA


Re: Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus #belarus

Carol
 

I've known them for years, and they have done wonderful research for me in Novogrudok, Rechitsa and Lyuban.I always recommend them to people searching in Belarus.
Carol Isenberg Clingan
Dedham MA


Re: First name of Zelik #names

Stephen Katz
 

First, a question (or two): is anyone familiar with the name Chilik, and is it a variant of Zelig?

Here's my story. My Jewish name is Zelig, and I've been trying to work out where it came from. None of my ancestors, going back several generations, on either my paternal or maternal side, was named Zelig. I've considered three possibilities:
 
1. My parents simply chose Zelig for no particular reason. But that's not likely. In naming both of my siblings, my parents followed Jewish tradition and named them after deceased family members.
 
2. My great grandfather's name was Simcha, which means joy in English. Zelig is a derivation of the German word Selig, which has several meanings. Although Selig is in some contexts translated as blessed, in common usage it means happy or joyous. So one possibility is that my parents named me after my great grandfather Simcha, but, for some reason, chose Zelig as a synonym. 
But why didn't they simply name me Simcha? Both of my siblings' Jewish names are the actual names of deceased family members.
 
3. Now I come to the name Chilik. My grandfather -- Simcha's son -- was Mordche (Motel) Katz. But when he immigrated from Ukraine to the US, in 1907 at age 14, he traveled under the name Chilik Schapiro. This is confirmed in his Certificate of Arrival and in his naturalization papers and it's how he's listed in the ship manifest. He traveled alone, with no other family members. My working assumption has been that, perhaps seeking to avoid his conscription into the Czar's army, his parents somehow obtained travel documents from someone named Chilik Schapiro. Is Chilik a variant of Zelig? If so, perhaps my parents named me after Chilik to recognize his role in enabling my grandfather emigrate to safety.
 
Thoughts on any of the above would be greatly appreciated!
 
Stephen Katz 


What happened on 7 March 1612 in Poznan? Mass death of Jews #general #poland

Gerson Sher
 

From multiple Ancestry records, there must have been a mass execution of Jews on 7 March 1612 in Poznan (some records say Prague, but it seems to have been Poznan). Does anyone have any information about this?


Re: First name of Zelik #names

LisaB
 

Wondering if my great-grandfather name, FELIK (Weiner/Veiner) is derived from Zelik as well. He’s from Maramaros Sighet.

Thoughts?

Lisa Bernath
Ivins, Utah USA
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ViewMate translation request - POLISH #lodz #poland #translation

kesspark@...
 

Thank you in advance....only a few letters left to translate from my grandfather's collection and need your help.

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address.

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM89779
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

Rachel Keiles Kessler Park
kesspark@...
NYC
KEILES - Vilnius, Lodz, Warsaw
TSIGAR, TOBIAS, ASZ, ELEFAND - Vilnius,
KESSLER - Starokonstantinov,
LURIE - Dvinsk
DUBIN(sky), NAGIN(sky) - Poltava,
ALPERT, SACHS


Warsaw Okopowa Cemetery - Chana Miriam Karmazyn (1865-1932) #warsaw #holocaust

azigraeber@...
 

A documentary on the Warsaw Ghetto posted on the Deutsche Welle youtube channel includes this below image from 1942 of the grave of Chana Miriam Karmazyn. The grave is still standing today. The fellow standing there is likely a relative of hers.  

Her husband was named  Moshe Yosef (seems to be in error on the grave as Moshe Avraham) and they had a daughter Rochel Monder. I set up a small tree on Geni and not sure there are any relatives around for them anymore. 



Azreil Graeber, NY
(researching: Graber, Brainin/Brynin, Zeldman, Pajes, Payes, Mnuskin, Namiote, Nitke)


Re: Marguerite HERSCHER, possible orphan at Saint-Mande, France, 1943 #france #holocaust #photographs

David Choukroun
 

Dear Selma, 

I am living @ Saint Mandé- France -- 500m from this place were this well known pictures was taken

It looks like a classical pictures of classroom, but the yellow star on their clothes is making it tragic

This picture was used and reused in tons of books, like a symbol of their fate, but the real story of this school (and rafle) is not so common

There are a couple of references (all in French I am afraid)  like this one : https://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/halshs-00137041/en

There is an annual ceremony -- with the official every year -- at the same adresse (no more a school)

Let me dig into the archives of Saint Mandé -- I remember to have seen somewhere the list of those girls -- may be only the ones you are listing here

--
Regards,
David CHOUKROUN

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FRANCE

CHOUKROUN ATTALI ATLANI


tracing possible WW2 resistance fighters #general #romania

Aline Petzold
 

Hello All:
 I am wondering how to go about researching whether my father, Dr. Joseph Sternberg,  was fighting for the resistance during WW2.  He was a doctor in the Romanian army.  He suffered from terrible nightmares throughout his life although as a child my sister and I were sheltered from this fact.  He used to tell stories of the time he spent treating peasants in the Crimea and being paid for his services with fistfuls of caviar.  I  have also discovered a series of pictures taken at Ispas in Transnistria ( ex: a group of people standing in front of a train car), however, there is no record of his being held as a prisoner there.  My question: Is there a listing of resistance fighters somewhere, or an organization that has such records?
Thanks for your help.
Aline Sternberg Petzold
St. Paul MN


Re: Terkowsky, Russland on 1885 passenger manifest #general

Sally Bruckheimer
 

Looking at the Jewishgen Gazetteer rather than the Jewishgen Communities Database brings up several possibilities for Turkowski.
 
The Communities Database includes only the major Jewish Communities in Eastern Europe, with hundreds or thousands of Jews. The Gazetteer has all the little places the Jews may have lived in. Some of my ancestors lived in places with only 1 or 4 or 5 Jewish families (and the 5 families were, of course, related).
 
So any time I search, I use the Gazetteer. It will bring up the big Jewish Communities as well as tiny one. If you click on the icon for the big communities, you will get all the information that is there.
 
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Re: DE BEERl Translation of Genealogy Report from German to English #germany #translation

Andreas Schwab
 

Excerpt from the ancestral list of the present family "de Beer".
According to the list of the Protected Jews of the " City of Emden" from 1752, the "Jew Beer" from Wiegboldsbuhr near Aurich in East Frisia obtains the right of residence in the city of Emden, also for his son "Samuel". The latter appears on later lists under the name Samuel Beer. The grandson Simon-Szimche-Symachon (Greek) Simon Wiebelsbuhr, also his Soan Isak- Jzrek Wiebelsbuhr, his children, but among them the grandfather Daniel under the name Simon de Beer.  
Hence the lineage since 1752 is  
Baer, Samuel, Simon, Isak, Daniel
 Children of Daniel: Isak, Julius, Simon, Rosalie, David, Adolf.
 In the Jewish community registers the family appears until 1848 under the name Wiebelsbuhr, then under de Beer.
 The Wiebelsbuhrs were addressed as Kozim (Samuel-Simon).
 Another line: Baer , Samuel, Simon, Jacob, Michel.
 It is highly probable that the ancestors are of "Spanish origin", because they came in 1740 from Amsterdam (Holland), where at that time there was a severe economic crisis, which badly affected the so-called Portuguese community of Amsterdam.  Many members became impoverished and came to the neighboring East Frisia (North Germany) including the da Silveira family (van der Walde), who had a family coat of arms.
 The wife of Siem Samuel Wiebelsbuhr was Christian, but became a very pious Jewess (good Jewess) in 1750. Hence the blond to some extent also very tall descendants.A son of this woman was over 2 meters tall and lived to be 97 years old.
 The de Beers were always livestock farmers, had large land holdings (no livestock traders) and lots of livestock, hence Kozinim, brought country products, butter, eggs, grain etc to the city. But once by mistaken instead of Erev Rosh-Hashanah they came to town on Yom Tov with their products.
 This is an excerpt from the church and community records.
Year 1937.
 
 
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
--
Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada


Re: First name of Zelik #names

Judy Petersen
 

I'm currently transcribing records from Slovakia near the current Polish border.  I have seen a couple of different variants on the "Zelig" theme (meaning their secular name was Solomon and their religious name started with a "Z") for the name Solomon, including Zanvel and Zimel. 
Best,
Judy Petersen
Fort Collins, CO, USA


Re: How to pay the Ukrainian Archives for research #ukraine

Susan H. Sachs
 

In addition to which archive (per Mark Friedman's comment) - did the person who sent the notice give his / her name?

Susan Sachs


Re: First name of Zelik #names

Israel P
 

Zelig is a Yiddish nickname that is formally associated with a number of different Hebrew given names, most commonly Asher and Yehoshua, but also a number of others as listed in Bet Shemuel, which is used for Jewish divorces.

Israel Pickholtz
Ashkelon
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endogamy-one-family.com

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It follows the path of least resistance.


Re: Terkowsky, Russland on 1885 passenger manifest #general

pathetiq1@...
 

Hallo Lee, 

The one thing that is certain is that Terkowsky was in Poland. Here are some suggestions 
A) Torhovytsia in present-day Ukraine 
https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Community.php?usbgn=-1056486

B) Three villages in Poland with the name Targowisko 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targowisko

Giannis Daropoulos 

Greece


Re: Tombstone translation #translation

pathetiq1@...
 

Thank you for your replies. According to her death certificate she died on Dec 3, 1893. I believe that the year (1891) written on the stone was a mistake. 
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Giannis Daropoulos 

Greece

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