JGSLI Virtual meeting on Sunday February 21 at 2:00 PM Eastern #education #events

Bonnie Birns

Hello all! The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island is delighted to invite you to our February monthly meeting featuring our guest speaker, Daniel Walkowitz, Emeritus Professor of History at NYU.


JGSLI is extending the invitation to the broader genealogy community. We ask that you register in advance (see below). Please share with your friends!

Sunday, February 21st, 2:00 PM, via Zoom

Speaker: Daniel Walkowitz
Topic: Searching for Paterson Roots Remembered and Forgotten in Heritage Tourism Abroad

The extended Walkowitz family arrived in Paterson from Lodz, Poland, as early as 1910.  They worked in the textile mills, department stores and shops of the city while taking an active role in Yiddish theater, the Paterson Folk Chorus, and labor politics.  It was a Jewish World of Yiddishkeit in which the author was raised and participated. As a radical student activist in the late 1950s and 1960s, he subsequently imagined himself walking in the footsteps of his Paterson grandparents who fought to improve the living and working conditions in the Lodz and Paterson mills.  The author recounts the genealogical and archival research that allowed him to uncover the stories of this past (which he will share) in the US and in Eastern and Central Europe where he seeks to see and hear what of these roots appear in walking tours, Jewish museums and memorial sites. Illustrated with slides, the lecture will illustrate the disappointments and surprises that frame the robust and changing terrain of Jewish Heritage today.

Daniel Walkowitz, Emeritus Professor of Social & Cultural Analysis and Emeritus Professor of History at New York University, is a social and cultural historian who in nearly a dozen books, two dozen articles and four films for public television pioneered efforts to bring America's past to broad general audiences in books, film and video.

There are two ways to join our meeting:
Register for our Zoom meeting: this will allow you to join in so you can chat with others before and after the meeting (this will be limited to the first 100 people to join)


When: Feb 21, 2021 2:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Register in advance for this meeting:

After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting.


Our meeting will be livestreamed on our YouTube channel. Please visit at the meeting start time and the meeting's video should be listed. No YouTube or other login is required, but if you are signed in you can ask questions in writing via the comment section under the video.


This webinar is free and open to the public.


I look forward to "seeing" you all then!


Bonnie Birns

President, Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island
Jericho, Long Island, NY researcher #59766

searching for family #dna


Hi to all,
I just joined this site after finding through dna that I am 49.9% Ashkenski jewish! I am so happy to find this information. I was given away at birth and know nothing of my genetics. I am desperate to find any information. I was born July 19,1947 in Bakersfield , California in Kern County. Listed on my birth certificate is George White and Irene Arrow from San Fransico, California. I am not sure if this is correct information. I was given to Floyd and Estelle Le May and never formally adopted. If anyone has any information, I would be enterally grateful!
Deanna LeMay Cole
Deanna Cole

Jeffrey Cohen

On this headstone Dora's father seems to have an unusual name מתת
I do not see anything like Matet in Jewishgen. Can anyone throw any light on it ?
(Cemetery in UK and families from Poland).

Jeff Cohen

translation needed #romania #germany #translation

Aline Petzold

Hello All:
 I have another German script to translate from my grandmother's workbook.  It is a rough draft of a letter written to her brother, who was in Canada working in the clothing manufacturing trade  at the time, in the early 1900s.
Thanks much.
Aline Petzold
St. Paul MN

Re: 23andMe to become publicly traded #dna

Phil Karlin

I think the thread title is inaccurate. Virgin is not buying 23andMe. It is going public.

From an email received from 23 & Me:

When we started 23andMe we had dreams of being able to transform the world of healthcare, research and therapeutic discovery by empowering individuals with genetic information. Fifteen years later, we are getting closer and closer to that goal.

Today, I am excited to share that we are taking steps to become a public company. You can find the announcement here.

Our mission is to help people access, understand and benefit from the human genome. We have made incredible progress in both empowering our customers with direct access and helping them to understand their personal genetic information. And we believe the future of our company is in helping customers like you, and the world, benefit from a new, more personalized and proactive approach to healthcare. It will take additional capital and investment to accelerate this innovation and disruption.

I want to recognize that none of this could have been possible without YOU. I have learned over the past 15 years just how powerful genetic information is to us individually and collectively. The genetic journey is incredibly personal and meaningful. The most important core value at our company is “Behind Every Data Point is a Human Being.” We make our decisions based on what is best for our customers, and we are committed to always making that our top priority.

Thank you for being a part of the 23andMe journey. Francis Collins, the Director of National Institute of Health, said in 2000 as the first human genome was being sequenced: “Genome science will have a real impact on all our lives — and even more, on the lives of our children. It will revolutionize the diagnosis, prevention, and treatment of most, if not all, human diseases.” We are on our way!

CEO & Co-Founder
Phil Karlin
Hartford, CT USA

Re: New Revision Lists found #ukraine #bessarabia #records


I don’t read Russian, but this is the link to FamilySearch’s Bessarabia Revision Lists from 1796-1917: 
"This collection consists of images of family lists for the tax paying population (about 95% of the population) conducted from 1796-1859 and a variety of family, resident, population, colonist, and ethnic group lists from 1818-1917. The localities listed reflect the places that existed during the period of the Russian Empire. Some of the localities are now in Ukraine.
These genealogical records are in Russian, and Moldovan which is the same as Romanian."
The page displayed is in Russian.  There are 3 options:
Бессарабия  Симферополь   Херсон
Bessarabia    Simferopol          Kherson
If you select Bessarabia (Бессарабия) you get records from 1820 - 1908.
If you select the first (Bessarabia) you then have another option:
Бессарабия (губерния)
Bessarabia   (province)
When you select Bessarabia (province) <Бессарабия (губерния)> you’ll see the displayed records from 1804 - 1917.
Not sure if this helps!
~Ron Miller
MELAMED KARPMAN (Minsk, Mozyr, Rechitsa, Minsk, Ukraine, Belarus, Kiev) 
SHARGORODSKY WEISBERG  (Kiev, Rusacki, Devemususke, Ivankova) 
KRASNITZKI and variation spelling (Rechitsa, Minsk, Ukraine, Belarus, Kiev)
SCHARGORODSKY  CHARGO (Carlos Caseras near Buenos Aires, Argentina) 
GOLDENBERG (Tulchin, Ukraine)

Re: Netherlands-- Transport Lists of Camp Westerbork Can be Searched on War Lives #holocaust #records

David Harrison

Camp Westerbork had been built by the Dutch to house the Jewish refugees from Germany that had managed to get out of Germany before the war,   They were all there for the Germans to take away at once and they then used it as their collection camp.  After WW2 the camp was later used to rehouse Jews returning to The Netherlands because in that hard winter many of the empty houses in the Jewish quarter of Amsterdam had been raided for their timber floors and stairs to be used as fuel to keep the resident locals alive,   By the time all these had been rehoused the camp was in use to house Dutch people back from their erstwhile colonies that were now gaining independence.  After that era the site was partly cleared for the Dutch international micro-wave base,  This is now shared by a very good Holocaust exhibition with photos of the site erc.
David Harriison, Birmingham GB (or UK)

From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
Sent: 06 February 2021 20:52
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <main@...>
Subject: [] Netherlands-- Transport Lists of Camp Westerbork Can be Searched on War Lives #holocaust #records



The Dutch site War Lives included the transport lists of Camp Westerbork. Camp Westerbork was the main transport camp in World War ll in the Netherlands from where Jews, Roma, Sinti, homosexuals and other persecuted people were transported to the death camps of Eastern Europe.

Camp Westerbork was the final transport camp to Auschwitz for Anne Frank.












Some have information on name, date of birth, where captured, concentration camp and date of death and have photographs. Where available there are links to documents  There are over 361,000 entries.


War Lives is in both Dutch and English and can be accessed at:


Thank you to Yvette Hoitink and her Dutch Genealogy Blog for informing us about this information.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Looking for descendants of the Trugman Family #ukraine

Helen Nash May


It has been a number of years since I posted and I am hoping that someone new may have joined us and will see this.  My grandfather, Samuel Trugman left Volochisk, Ukraine in 1910.  He left his mother (Nachama Baran), two sisters and a brother there.  In 1942, they were evacuated to Kamyshlov ahead of the Nazis.  We know his mother died upon arrival but the rest survived. I have received Red Cross documents showing such.

The last contact we had with them was with one of the unmarried sisters living in 1962 in  Vinnytsia in western Ukraine. The postcards we received then did not show an address but rather a post office box. 

My problem is that his sister Rivka (married surname unknown) had a son named Izzya born 1930 and his brother Max a daughter named Eda.  Therefore surnames were lost when they married. We know that Eda married someone named Boris  who might have fought in the war and was probably killed during it.....but no other information. Eda Trugman, Rose Trugman (Max’s wife) and Blema Trugman (unmarried sister were living in in the same building in Vinnytsia and were in ill health.  My mother remembered stories that there was a son (not sure if it was Izzya) who became an engineer and lived far away...

I have no idea if anyone is still alive and if so, it would probably not be their generation... but if anyone has any idea of how I might proceed, I would greatly appreciate it.

Helen Nash May
New York
Volochisk, Ukraine : Trugman, Pertzelai/Pertzelai/Persily/ Shilman/Shulman, Baron/Baran
Lvov: Noschkes, Fetter/Vetter, Messing, Landes
Buchach, Ukraine: Landes, Eisner, Grabstein
Germany: Sichel, Mai/ May, Alexander
England: Daughter of Sabine “Famchein” Rosenthal

If anyone can offer any help in finding them or might realize a distant relative I would greatly appreciate hearing from them.

Re: Need help translating Hebrew on gravestones & memorial plaques #canada #translation


Hi Chloe, 

Actually there is no issue with picture quality. 

I'd like to add the Hebrew name of David's father. 
In one plaque it says Herschel Tsvi and the other one says Tsvi Hirsch. 
Tsvi is deer in Hebrew. Hirsch is deer in German  leading to Yiddish variations like Hersch, Herschel, Hirtz  Hertz... 

How Jews ended up to name a son "deer"? 
In the Bible Naftali, Jacob's son, is blessed as a hind ( Genesis 49,21).This led Ashkenazi Jews to join Naftali with Hirsch or  Tsvi.

One more comment on Joseph's last name. Kogan is the Russian form of the name Cohen. Russian lacks the sound H and uses in foreign names G instead. 
So if you look back for Joseph's family in the Old Country, the older the documents the less chance you have to find Kogan. You'll have Cohen or Katz, a common Ashkenazi way to name a Cohen. 
Best regards , 

Laurent Kassel 
Moreshet, Israel 

David Barrett Discussion Group

Shalom. I would appreciate any information regarding any family connection with ISAAC BROMBERG b.1861 d. Nov 1944 and buried in Leeds UK.

Although there is a picture of his grave on line it is impossible to determine his fathers name.

Thank you

David Barrett


Searching for relative #belarus #general

Miron Chumash

I'm looking for any information about my wife's aunt who was murdered in the holocaust. Her family name before her marriage was Bunimovitz and her Given name was Reisel. She was born and lived until her marriage in the town of Vishniva, Belarus. We know she got married before the war but we don't know her last name after her marriage. We do not know the name of her husband, we know he was from Minsk. We know she had a son and that she was with him in the Vishniva ghetto. We will be happy for any information.

Miron Chumash

Re: great synagogue in london hebrew translation #translation

Yitschok Margareten

I'll explain the Hebrew words that cause confusion. 

1. The groom's name: 
ר' שמעון בן' צבי המ' הירש יוסף 
The המ' is the abbreviation for המכונה, which means "who is called", this is mandatory in a Jewish contract for a person who is called with a nickname. Although this document is not a legal Jewish contract, it follows the rules of the Ketuba [marriage contract], as you can see the mentioning that the bride is a virgin and she is coming from her father's home (see further). 

2. The brother's name Zussman:
Although Zussman is more commonly known as a family name, I do know people who are named Zussman as thier first name. 

3. The words following the brothers' names:
יהיו עה"ח 
עה"ח is the abbreviation for על החתונה, the meaning of these words is "will be at the wedding", which corresponds to the question "will attend wedding". 

4. The line after the bride's name:
מבי אבוה 
Means that she comes from her father's home. This is mentioned in the Ketuba regarding dowry. If the father is alive and he is paying her dowry, מבי אבוה [from her father's home] is written, otherwise מבי נשא [from the woman's home] is written. 

I hope this clarifies all confusions. If you still have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. 

Yitschok Margareten

Julius Schwartzberg, Manchester 1900s #russia #unitedkingdom

Neil Fraser <neil8fff@...>

Can anyone provide information on Julius Schwartzberg who was born in
Russia about 1877, and moved to Manchester, possibly in the 1890s. He
married Gertude Cohen, born Russia about 1883, in 1902 in Prestwich,
Lancashire. Julius took the name Black and became a naturalised UK
citizen in 1926. In the 1911 Census he was recorded as a feather
merchant, Prestwich. He died in May 1938. Gertrude died May 1952. The
information is requested by Pat Allsopp of Salamander Bay, New South
Wales. Posted by Neil Fraser, on behalf of Pat Allsopp.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately

Re: Need help translating Hebrew on gravestones & memorial plaques #canada #translation

Leya Aronson

The first two plaques are for the same person. In the first, his name is written in Yiddish as TEVYA. On the second, it is written in the Hebrew as TUVIA. Date of death in Hebrew is the 18th of Shvat, 5738.

The first tombstone is for Joseph
YOSEPH DAVID son of  BEN-ZION the COHEN died the 19th of Tammuz, 5720

The second tombstone for Mortimer
The Young man [unmarried] MOSHE son of DAVID YOSEPH, died the 30th of Kislev, 5708
The final one is for 
RASHKA the daughter of DAVID, died the 17th of Nissan, 5717 [which is the 3rd day of Passover]

Hope this helps,

Leya Aronson
Toronto, Canada

Hope this helps.

Post war pogroms in Wloclawek and/or Kutno #poland #general


Looking for information about pogroms (or similar) that may have occurred in Wloclawek or Kutno areas after the war.  Would appreciate any info.
Relly Coleman

Re: location of Givozits? #general

Ben Kempner

Hello Saul,

My grandparents were born in Gwozdziec, Kolomea (in 1878 & 1887), Galicia (now Hvizdets, Ukraine).  Surnames that I'm aware of: JUNGERMANN, SPERBER, SCHECHTER, FRIEDMAN, STEIN.

The town had a population of less than 3,000 at the time. Chances are that our ancestors were neighbors or even relatives.

Have you taken a DNA test?  If so and you're interesting in seeing if there's a connection, please send me an email directly to benjamin.kempner@....  I'd need to know which company(ies) you've tested with and under what name.

Ben Kempner

New Revision Lists found #ukraine #bessarabia #records

Yefim Kogan

Hello friends,  Shavua Tov,

I want to share with you good news about our Bessarabia records findings.

Thanks a lot to our volunteer Deborah Glassman.  She found among FamilySearch microfilms a huge set of microfilms from 1835, Revision Lists, and some with Jewish records.  We just started to look into them, and for now here are something we found:

1.  Khotin uezd, 1835, the town is written "Mogilev-Ataki".  I am not sure what that really means.  Maybe in 1835 Mogilev, which is on another side from Ataki was part of Bessarabia?!  I do not know abou this.
Friends from Ukraine group, maybe you know anything about it?  In any case, we are going to transcribe these pages.

 2. Soroki, 1835. 
Interesting that uezd is Yassy...  that uezd later became Beltsy uezd.  Possible that 1835 Soroki was part of a large Yassy uezd.

3. Skulyany, Yassy (Beltsy) uezd, 1835

I believe that we will find more of Jewish records in that huge pile of microfilms, which are not catalogued.

If anyone is interested to work on translation of these Revision Lists, please let me know.

Also if you searched FamilySearch and found Jewish records, which we do not have, please let us know too.  We will be able to translate all of them!

Again, thanks to Deborah G.  who is helping us tremendously.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia Group Leader and Coordinator

Netherlands-- Transport Lists of Camp Westerbork Can be Searched on War Lives #holocaust #records

Jan Meisels Allen



The Dutch site War Lives included the transport lists of Camp Westerbork. Camp Westerbork was the main transport camp in World War ll in the Netherlands from where Jews, Roma, Sinti, homosexuals and other persecuted people were transported to the death camps of Eastern Europe.

Camp Westerbork was the final transport camp to Auschwitz for Anne Frank.












Some have information on name, date of birth, where captured, concentration camp and date of death and have photographs. Where available there are links to documents  There are over 361,000 entries.


War Lives is in both Dutch and English and can be accessed at:


Thank you to Yvette Hoitink and her Dutch Genealogy Blog for informing us about this information.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Looking for Mrs. Irena (Kanner) Berger Lobel or any info about her family #romania #france #names


Dear Colleagues,

Thanks to an amazing friend from Israel, I've found out that I have a cousiness, Mrs. Irena Berger Lobel, daughter of my auntie Hilda (nee. Kanner) and Mr. Beno Berger Lobel. She was born in Bucuresti in 1925. Hope to meet someone who could give any further information about her. I know she lived in Paris for a while with our grandmother Adella Kanner.

Thank you

Artur Canella Avelar

Re: translation from hebrew needed #translation


Hi Deborah, 

The Hebrew text of Ricka's epitaph sheds light on Levi's name. It says that she is the wife of Yehuda Hess.
His English name is Levi and although Levi is a name derived from the Bible it is not his Hebrew name.

This is actually a common pattern. Ashkenazi Jews used to have next to their Hebrew name a Yiddish  name where there was a commonly accepted connection between both names. Since the Bible compares Judah, Jacob's son, to a lion, the Yiddish equivalent was based on Loewe, Leib...

In the US, it is often found that German Jews named Judah-Loewe chose Levi as English name. The most famous was Levi Strauss.
This is the same story for Levi Hess.
He passed away three years after his second wife and was not around anymore to inform that his Hebrew name was Judah. This is how on his grave he appears as Levi in the Hebrew text as well  

Best regards,

Laurent Kassel 
Moreshet, Israel 

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