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JGASGP Meeting with Miriam Weiner
#announcements
#jgs-iajgs
The Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society is having a special members only meeting.
Date: Sunday, February 21, 2021
Time: 1:00 pm Check-in, Chat, and Schmooze.
Official program starts promptly at 1:30
Guest Speaker: Miriam Weiner, Genealogist, Author and "Creator of the Consolidated Eastern European Archival Database”
In 1989, Miriam Weiner accepted an invitation from the Polish National Tourist Office to visit the Polish Archives in preparation for arranging genealogy tours to Poland. That visit led to a 30-year career working in the archives of Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus and Lithuania.
In 1991, The Jewish Week in New York, referred to Miriam as ” The genealogist who lifted the archival iron curtain” and in 1998, The Forward referred to her as “The Indiana Jones of pre-war polish Jewry”.
Topic: Updates at the rtrfoundation.org website:
Miriam Weiner Introduces New Surname Database with 2,000,000+ names at her Website!
From 30+ years of working in the archives of Eastern Europe, I have acquired hundreds of various document collections and have formed a close working relationships with archivists on all levels which continues to this day.
During the last 2 years, I have created a surname database (searchable via standard search and OCR search) which enables the researcher to access Holocaust name lists, vital records, census lists, school records, property lists, various telephone & business directories, most of which does not appear elsewhere online. Written permission was obtained from archivists, authors and institutions for me to create data files & publish this information.
The data entry is ongoing. Additionally, at www.rtrfoundation.org, a town name search can produce: 1: archive data for that town, 2: images of the town, and 3: link to street map of the town.
A surname search can produce 1: document results with that surname, 2: link to a street map, and 3: links to town images. All in a single search!
Miriam will walk us through and demonstrate her newly redesigned website https://www.rtrfoundation.org/index.shtml and the new searchable surname database using Standard Surname Search and OCR Search (Optical character recognition) https://www.rtrfoundation.org/lnintro.shtml.
You will be amazed at what material is currently available from Belarus, Lithuania, Moldova, Poland, Romania and Ukraine including images and maps from many of the towns Miriam has visited during her 30 years of working in the archives of Eastern Europe. The new website currently has over 200 collections and 1 million new documents with more being added daily.
*All meetings (except for March 7th) are a benefit for paid members only. Please see our website for additional membership and meeting information. We welcome new members.
We host meetings every 3 weeks with expert speakers on a variety of topics. Our website has a lot of research information focusing on Philadelphia. *On March 7th we will be hosting a BEGINNERS WORKSHOP with our genealogy wizard Joel Spector. More information will also be posted on our Facebook page. See our website for the Zoom link on March 1st. PLEASE SHARE! www.jgasgp.org or contact mazergoldenjgsgp@...
Marilyn Golden
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Where are these records
#lithuania
#records
hsalmenson@...
The information from the Lithuania, LitvakSIG Census and family Lists from various districts, 1795-1900 for my family Izrel Zalmanzon provides the following reference:
Publication type 1904-1915-FL Archive KRA/I-210/1/439 What does this mean, where are the archives and in what language are they? Thanks. Herman Salmenson
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help readng arrival document
#records
June Genis
I am fairly certain that I have found the correct arrival manifest for an ancestral cousin based on other documents but I'm having trouble deciphering what is on this one (2 pages) due to poor handwriting. You have to advance to the next page to see where he was going. Just follow line 14. His name on the manifest is Mojsej Okun but he changed it to Louis in the US. In particular I am trying to ascertain the name and address of the person he was going to. I think it says his uncle S Okun and he signed my grandfather Simon Okun's death certificate as his nephew. The address is almost impossible to read and I'm not sure if by "New York" it means Manhattan or anywhere in NYC.
My grandfather Simon Okun was already in the US by then (Nov 19, 1913) but I have no record of him at such an address on that date. He married his second wife in early 1911. His address listed on the marriage certificate was 636 E. B Street. However I can not find such an address although there is a 636 Ave B which is not too far from where the marriage was performed at 199 Eldridge Street, Manhattan. But Simon's Declaration for Naturalization was filed in February 1913 when he claimed to be a resident of Griffin Corners, NY. which doesn't seem to exist anymore. I have it in my head that the papers were filed in Delhi, NY but I can't find the source for that at the moment. In the 1920 census he was in Catskill, Greene County, NY. My tree on Ancestry is June Genis Family Tree and is public. A lot of the information on Simons Declaration was deliberately misstated to make it appear that his second wife's children from her first marriage were also his so all would be naturalized.
Here is a link to Louis/Mojsej's full gallery. I have found DNA cousins in Europe and Israel that I am sure he is related to but haven't been able to find his parents or how while all of those cousins trace to Rogachev, Belarus Simon claimed to have been born in Poltava, Ukraine. Any help in making sense of all this would be greatly appreciated.
June Genis
Hemet, CA
Researching GENIS, OKUN, ETTINGER, CHESLER/KESLER, SUSMAN (Russian Empire)
-- June Genis, 650--851-5224 Hemet, CA Researching: GENIS, OKUN, SUSMAN, ETTINGER, KESSLER/CHESLER (Russian/Polish Empires)
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Divorce records
#usa
janice1219@...
My g-mother , Eva Cole, married Max Weener in July, 1921 in New York. They were divorced after two children were born; Sumner and Marylyn. I have been searching for a divorce record. It could have been filed in either New York or Massachusetts.
It's been a dead end for me. Does anyone have any suggestions? Janice Weinberg Janice1219@...
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Re: SSI Applications and Claims Index
#records
Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
"When A person applies for a social security number they are asked a variety of questions including their parents names. When the person dies and a claim is made against their social security either by a child (if under age) in the case of an early death or by a spouse then a "claim record" is generated,."
This is what happens now. When I got my Social Security Number, it was at the bank, where they had a roll of cards in a typewriter. Genealogists should all be conscious that everything changes with time. My parents didn't email Social Security when I was born, as there was no email. I didn't get a Social Security Number when I was born, as children didn't need them. You ggrandfather (or whatever) signed up in the 1930s when it started. Yes, parents' names were taken, as well as date of birth, although Social Security didn't assume that they had the right birth date; there was a long list of sources for birth information, generally the earliest record of the person in the US. My mother was born in Buffalo, and she had a birth record originally, but she sent her copy to Albany for her teaching certificate. There was a fire in City Hall, so Social Security had to use other information for her proof of age: the earliest US census with her in it. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ
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pjfreedman@...
Could Penesuch be the mother's maiden name, or the father's mother's maiden name? I had a similar situation trying to locate my great grandparents' arrival record. Although GGF was known as Sam Padwe both in Ukraine and in the U.S., his legal name according to his military papers was Samuel Padwe r. Klinghoffer, because his parents' marriage wasn't recognized by the civil authorities in Ukraine. Sure enough, they traveled under the names Sam and Ida Klinghoffer, then promptly went back to Padwe in the U.S.
An anecdote, but possibly helpful. Paula Freedman
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Re: Additional insight into tombstones
#poland
Peter Cohen
The one for Sheindel has been vandalized and bulk of the inscription has been chiseled off. All it says is Sheindel bas Peretz.Nothing else
The one for Meier lists his full name was Meier Eliezer ben Tsvi Velvel. There is a lengthy inscription which perhaps someone with Hebrew fluency can make out. The very last line lists his date of death. I have had good luck with copying & pasting the image into a photo editor (I use the free IrfanView program) and playing with increasing and decreasing gamma, contrast and / or brightness. Sometimes changing the image to a negative helps to read a black & white inscription. -- Peter Cohen California
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Re: SSI Applications and Claims Index
#records
Sherri Bobish
June, That is actually the Soc. Sec. application for Louis OKUN. Soc. Sec. applications never list the applicant's child's name. The database is showing all hits that contain the name Samuel OKUN, and confusingly, it shows the one that you found (which is for Samuel's son.) This database has confounded researchers before. The below info should clarify things. The number after Mother's name is not a Soc. Sec. #, as it's the wrong # of digits. Hope this helps, Sherri Bobish
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Yale Hungarian Collections
#hungary
Vivian Kahn
Additional information about the Hungarian Jewish resources at Yale can be found in a paper at
http://ead-pdfs.library.yale.edu/3761.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1msIjNqsz4RxQI7AwmB62XN3Q2N45VB1BzCWD7Stg-2rXPSi9BAhk9BCg Vivian Kahn JewishGen Hungarian Research Director -- Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California Researching families including: BERKOVICS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/GROSZ. Avas Ujvaros, Hungary/Orasu Nou, Romania KAHAN/JOSIPOVITS/DUB, Sziget, Kabolacsarda, Nagyvarad, Hungary/Sighet, Ciarda, Oradea, Romania KOHN/Zbegnyo/ Zbehnov, Tarnoka/Trnavka, Slovakia; Cleveland LEFKOVITS/Kolbasa/Brezina, Slovakia MOSKOVITS/Honkocz, Szobranc, Osztro, Kassa, Hungary/Chonkovce, Sobrance, Ostrov, Kosice, Slov., Nyiregyhaza, Hungary ELOVITS/Hornya, Hungary/Horna, Slovakia NEUMANN/Szeretva, Kereszt, Nagymihaly, Miskolc, Hung./Sobrance, Kristy, Stretavka, Michalovce, Slov. POLACSEK/Hunfalu, Hungary/Huncovce, Slovakia SPITZ/Nikolsburg/Mikulov, Prosnitz/Prostejov, Moravia/Czech Republic; Kismarton/Eisenstadt, Hungary/Austria; Hunfalu,Hungary//Huncovce, Slovakia
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Ellen Korpi
My great grandmother's death certificate from March 1950 is held by the NYC Health Department and I am denied access because I do not know the names of her parents. This is circular since the reason I seek this document is to learn the names of her parents. Could someone provide an update on the long time efforts to improve access to these documents?
TOBACK POLLER (Mogilev, Podalia), SCHWEITZER FISHMAN HAMACHER (Mykolaev, Podalia) Ellen Korpi Wellesley, MA -- Ellen Korpi Wellesley, MA
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Re: OLSWANG family Jewish Refugee Admissions to the U.S. in 1940
#usa
#holocaust
Barbara Hemmendinger
I have a family member, Simeon Olshwang, who arrived similarly. His last known address was Berlin, although he was born in Jelgava, Latvia (1899). He arrived in NY from Southampton, England on 15 July 1939 and was sponsored by my great aunt Minna Lowensohn and her mother, Anna Lowensohn. Any further information about the Olswang family is also appreciated. Thanks.
Barbara (Elk) Hemmendinger
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Re: SSI Applications and Claims Index
#records
Paul Chirlin
The number listed for Spouse 760952439, is not a SSN. Per the SSec website ssa.gov/employer/stateweb.htm where you can look up the place where a SSN was issued by its first three numbers
The SSN shown for Louis on ancestry begins with 157 was issued in New Jersey which may help in verifying if this is the correct Louis Okun Paul Chirlin
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Diane Jacobs
Mount Lebanon has five Lakritz burials on their online database. You can check yourself at
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
www.mountlebanoncemetery.com/search/ #results You can search by name and by society without names so you can see all those buried in that society and you may find other names you are related to . Click on contact and you will get address, Phone, and email address to contact them. Some NYC cemeteries will take a photo for you for free or a small fee so let them know you are in Israel. Good luck. If you need more suggestions, you can email me privately. Diane Jacobs
On Feb 16, 2021, at 4:09 AM, susan.randlakritz@... wrote:
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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey
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Re: Hungarian Jewish Materials at Yale University
#hungary
Carole Bass
Since the links are to an auction house and not to Yale, I'm confused about the university's ownership. Do we know that Yale has acquired these materials and if so, do we know which library within the university?
I'm friendly with the Judaica archivist at Yale's main library. I'd be happy to ask informally about researcher access to the materials. If that would be helpful, please let me know, along with any other available information -- for example, are the materials newly acquired? Did the main library purchase them, or was it the rare book library, or another entity within the university? -- Carole Bass New Haven, Connecticut, USA bass.carole@...
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Re: Hungarian Jewish Materials at Yale University
#hungary
Jeffrey Knisbacher
I have information on Stauber, my wife's mother's maiden name. Will be happy to share. Jeff Knisbacher, j2456@..., Bradenton, Florida
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Re: ViewMate Translation Request - Russian
#translation
#poland
ryabinkym@...
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:47 PM, Aaron Slotnik wrote:
Kacperowski In Russian: 6 Новемясто Состоялось в посаде Новемясто 23-го апреля 1888 года в 10 часов утра. Явилсь Ицик Покорский, (не ясно), 36 лет и Йосель Дигуто, торговец, 67 лет, жители посада Новемясто и объявили, что в ночь 22-го на 23-е апреля сего года умерла в деревне Кацнерово объединения Голембе Хуна Гершоновна Кацнеровская, 63-х лет, дочь Гершона и Фейги, урожденной Бротгерш (возможно). По настоящему удостоверяю о кончине Хуны Кацнеровской. Акт сей присутствующим прочитан, ими и нами подписан. Ицик Покорский Йосель Дигуто Чиновник гражданского состояния Подпись Translated into English: 6 Novemyasto It took place in Posad Novemyasto on April 23rd, 1888 at 10 a.m. Itzik Pokorsky, (not clear), 36 years old, and Yosel Diguto, a merchant, 67 years old, residents of the Novemyasto settlement, appeared and announced that on the night of April 22-23 of this year, died in the village of Katsnerovo of the association Golembe Huna Gershonovna Katsnerovsky, 63 -x years old, daughter of Gershon and Feiga, nee Brotgersh (possibly). I truly certify about the death of Huna Katznerowsky. This act was read to those present, they and we signed. Itzik Pokorsky Yosel Diguto Civil Status Official Signature Comment: Lust name of Huna or Chuna is Katsnerovsky, not Kacperowski. I can read it on the record.
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Re: Searching database WWII evacuees, Lithuania
#lithuania
#general
Russ Maurer
Hello Miriam,
The database you found was created by LitvakSIG from lists found in the Central State Archive of Lithuania, abbreviated LCVA. The translation was done on-site, which means that LitvakSIG does not have its own images of the lists. The images may be purchased directly from LCVA. I suggest you inquire as to the cost, but I understand from the archive catalog that these lists have already been digitized, so the cost may be (should be) very reasonable. The archive email is lcva@.... You can write in English. The specific files that you reference are described as follows in the online catalog, as translated from Lithuanian by Google (note that you transposed digits in the fond, it is correctly R-754): LCVA/R-754/16: List of persons who evacuated from the Lithuanian SSR at the beginning of the German-Soviet war and settled in the Udmurt USSR LCVA/R-754/21, 23, 24 (all have identical descriptions): Lists of persons evacuated from the Lithuanian SSR to the depths of the USSR at the beginning of the German-Soviet war The lists are in Russian. Beyond that, we have no other information. Russ Maurer Records Acquisition & Translation Coordinator, LitvakSIG
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Re: SSI Applications and Claims Index
#records
blockmk@...
When A person applies for a social security number they are asked a variety of questions including their parents names. When the person dies and a claim is made against their social security either by a child (if under age) in the case of an early death or by a spouse then a "claim record" is generated,. Additionally if a person reaches the age where they can draw Social security a claim is made as well... This collection set is a newer one to be published, though it contains data back for many years. So a person's parents never had to immigrate to show up on the record....
Pull the record up again and click on the Louis's name and you will see more info. I dont' know that haveI've ever see a number for the mother's name..... did she happen to immigrate? maybe that is her social security #. Now that you have his ss# you can send off a request for his application which might have additional information. Katherine Block
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Oliver Marshall
My grandparents – Siegfried and Klara Rosenberg – left Frankfurt in late May 1941 for the US. According to JDC/Transmigration Bureau records, Otto Oppenheimer (of 2235 Laguna Street, San Francisco) deposited funds towards my grandparents' travel costs.
I am interested in learning more about Otto Oppenheimer. (He doesn't appear to be directly related to my grandparents but he may, like my grandfather, have originally been from Hessen.) What was Otto Oppenheimer's own background? When did he arrive in the US and what did he do in San Francisco? Did helped many others to escape Germany for the US? Thank you! Oliver Marshall London – England
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Re: 1795 Census of Trencsen County
#hungary
jlevy2008@...
Thank you for your reply, Vivian.
With too much time on my hands, now would seem a great opportunity for me to give something back to JewishGen and volunteer my services to add the missing place names to the database. Having spent a lot of time poring over the Conscriptiones Judaeorum for Trencsen county, I can almost recite the place names of the inferiori district by heart. I am also well aware of the variant Hungarian spellings and, of course, the Slovakian and German versions of the place names. Justin Levy (Dubai, UAE)
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