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Is there a SIG that covers Zakroczym? Later records not online. #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

 Although our online records currently end at 1905, JRI-Poland has also fully extracted the
vital records of Zakroczym up to 1920.  This constitutes an additional 1700 record entries.
 
To learn how to access these records, please write to zakroczym@....
 

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.

 
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Is there a SIG that covers Zakroczym? #poland
From: relly800@...
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 17:58:22 EST
 
I could not find a FB SIG for Zakroczym and wonder if there is a group for descendants of the town.
Thanks

Relly Coleman


Re: Is there a SIG that covers Zakroczym? #poland

Chuck Weinstein
 

JRI-Poland (www.jri-Poland.org) covers this town.

Chuck Weinstein
chuck1@...


How Newspaper Databases Revealed a Poor Immigrant's Lecturing of a Movie Star about the "Slums" #usa #general

Michael Moritz
 

I've written the remarkable story of how a Jewish immigrant mother and product of the Lower East Side confronted via letter world-famous superstar Mary Pickford in 1916 about New York's "slums," and how modern newspaper databases helped piece together this fascinating story, you might enjoy! Link is here: https://moritzresearch.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-very-soul-of-human-progress-how.html

Best,
Michael Moritz
New York


Re: Boarders or Lodgers on Census Documents #general

Sherri Bobish
 


John,

There is David Seligson's 1908 passenger manifest when he entered NY, bound for his brother in Minnesota, and he left behind his mother Sarah Seligson in Vilna.

Perhaps some of this info will be helpful in your search.

Sherri Bobish


Re: Pearl FINKELSTEIN missing death records 1891

Hilary Henkin
 

You might want to check with the Winnipeg Jewish Heritage Centre, at https://www.jhcwc.org/.  The index to their archives is online.  There are several entries for Tevel/Tewel Finkelstein, including photos and a 1929 burial record.  The data itself is not online, you'll need to contact them to get copies, but they can confirm whether each item is relevant to your family.

When I found results for Rincover relatives, the Centre sent me copies of newspaper articles, including Yiddish with English translations, and photos of the matzevot, for a reasonable donation.  They were a pleasure to work with.

Hilary Henkin

Researching:
Mogilev - BERLIN;  BELIISKI;  HENKIN - GENKIN;  MESCENIKOV;  POZ - POZE
Ekaterinoslav - KATZ; LAPIDUS;  LAVROTIN - LAVRUTIN - AVRUTIN;  PESACHINSKY; SHIMERNITSKY - SEMERNITSKY;  STEINHART
Roumania:  DONNENFIELD;  DOLLINGER;  RINCOVER - HARINCOVER;  WISENTHAL - VIESENTAUL
Harbin, China:  FELDMAN;  PENZNER;  SREBERK - SCHRIEBER;
Lublin, Poland:  KATZ;  JARMUSZ




On 2/19/2021 4:29 PM, Paul Silverstone wrote:
For some time I have been trying to find the death details of my
great-grandmother Pearl Finkelstein. Perhaps someone has an idea I have
not tried.
She arrived in New York in December 1890 with her son Joseph & his
family, on the s.s. Russia from Hamburg. Her age is given as 59. She
was a widow, her husband Mendel having died about 1880.
This age is unlikely because her son Tevel already in Winnipeg was born
about 1840.
The first child in the family named Pearl was born in 1895, so she had
died by that year.
Joseph's daughter wrote that she had arrived in Winnipeg which would
have been in January 1891. She is not listed in the census of 1891
taken in May.
A search of the Manitoba Archives reveals no death certificate for her.
The Jewish cemetery in Transcona is missing most of its gravestones
and there is no list of who is buried there.

I believe she must have died shortly after arriving in Winnipeg the
winter of 1891.


--
Paul Silverstone
West Vancouver, BC

see: www.paulsilverstone.com


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Re: Where is 'Osernovitz, Austria'? #galicia #general

Aaron Slotnik
 

Hello,

I wanted to provide an update to the group on this request since I think the findings are broadly applicable.  First, thanks to all who took their time to take a look and offer their help and suggestions.  In particular, Yale noticed that there is a very slight handwriting difference between the 'O' in Osernovitz and the 'O' in Ornstein.  That combined with the lack of likely candidates for the town other than my initial assumption of the well-known Czernowitz, caused me to revisit the Czernowitz vital records index (an amazing resource at https://czernowitz.geneasearch.net/ if you were not aware and haven't used it).

I took a more careful look at the indexed records and indeed found his birth record as Ahron Ber Orenstein (I knew his Hebrew name from his matzeva as Aharon Dov).  The date is off by a few years from what is provided on his naturalization, but the month is the same and the mother's name is correct.  Since the parents did not have a civil marriage, this is the only record I've found that mentions the father's name, but I knew it was Ire / Uri and is listed here as Isser.

Can any of the German speakers in the group read Isser's occupation (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9R-1WDT-3?cat=1378569)?  It's the record on December 23 for Ahron Ber in house 1225.

I also want to thank Giannis who was able to find the passenger manifests for the family.  Again, Benjamin's naturalization was partially correct . . . the ship name was correct, but the dates were not.  Since that is a common error I thought it was off by a year, focused on that ship and gave up when I couldn't find him even after looking at all of the indexed male names.  It turns out he was on the same ship the following month, indexed as Berl Hormstein/Homstein.  His wife and children followed through England about 2 years later, indexed as Crustein/Orustein.

So . . . keep looking . . . the records are out there!

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL USA


Sunday, Feb 21st at 7:30EST--NJ Death Records and the Greater Trenton Cemetery Project #announcements

Elana Broch
 

NJ Death Records and The Greater Trenton Cemetery Project
Elana Broch, Regina Fitzpatrick & Mort Cohen

Trenton, NJ had a sizable, vibrant Jewish population of German, Russian Empire, and Hungarian immigrants beginning around 1850, but due to demographic changes and the exodus to nearby suburbs, few Jews remain in Trenton today.   Two incredibly useful resources remain for genealogists: the local cemeteries and the New Jersey State archives. The cemeteries have recently been restored by the Greater Trenton Jewish Cemetery Project (GTJCP). The State Archives has death records and family histories. This presentation will cover techniques for searching census and death records, and family histories in the NJ State Archives (some of which are online), and a description of the GTJCP.

I've included the zoom link below, but if you like the handouts before or after the presentation, please contact me directly via JewishGen (select 'Private' in the email reply).
Elana BrochPhD, MLIS

Feb 21, 2021 07:30 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)


Re: Boarders or Lodgers on Census Documents #general

Jill Whitehead
 

Boarders and lodgers in the England and Wales Census, and likely Northern Irish Census, were often relations, siblings, cousins, nephews and nieces etc. In the 1891 Welsh Census, my grandfather Samuel Servian was staying with his elder married sister Leah Goldblat in Mold in North Wales. He was given as a boarder rather than brother. I have other examples in the family too, also from 1891, when Samuel's cousin Lazarus Karpowitz  was staying with Samuel's father and mother Joseph and Ada in Liverpool. Ada's maiden name was Karpowitz and Lazarus was her nephew.  Lazarus was acting as an apprentice to Joseph, but when Leah died of typhoid a few years later, Lazarus left for New York, and Joseph and Leah became stand- in parents for Leah's three young children. 

So do not dismiss boarders and lodgers, as often they were relations.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Understanding Vitals #ukraine #records

Neil
 

Hello

I have obtained a copy of Birth vitals for who I believe to be my grandfathers uncle, he was born in Odessa in January 1909.
There are two additional dates that have been applied to the records sometime after 1909. Do they have any relevance and/or imply a continued association with the synagogue?

Under the metric reference - there is the date 13th March 1930 - so he would have just turned 21.
Under the circumcision date - there is the additional date 30th October 1924.

Many thanks

--
Neil Ashton
London UK
Interested in Locations: Berdichev/Odessa.
Surnames: Nesanelis/Litinzisky (to name but two)


Re: Ajfer Wasserzug #general

Robert Heuman
 

And almost all burials before 2013 are now in the international database for Jewish Cemeteries, if the individual was buried in any of the Toronto area cemeteries. I personally am now working on 2013 to the present for the last of the cemeteries that needs to be updated. That will give you the date of the funeral, place of death if that was known, and the company that did the funeral, which should aid in finding the death certificate. Death may have been outside Toronto, or even outside Canada, yet the burial would have been in Toronto or the 'GTA' as the Greater Toronto Area is known. The newest Jewish cemeteries for Toronto are all north of the city in York county, in the Vaughan area, yet are considered Toronto cemeteries. And there is actually a third funeral home, Hebrew Basic, that may have handled the funeral. - www.hebrewbasicburial.ca - and their web site lists all of the cemeteries.

Robert Heuman

On 2021-02-20 8:45:08 AM, rachel.steinhouse@... <rachel.steinhouse@...> wrote:

I have Wasserzug in my Margel family from Britain.  

I also live in Toronto and I saw that you are looking for a death certificate.  If the death was in the last 30 years or more, you can go onto the 2 burial sites, Benjamin’s park memorial Or Steeles Memorial and go into their archives. You could then request a death certificate.

Rachel Margel Steinhouse 


Looking for family of Lisa BAKER in ENGLAND, UK #unitedkingdom

alexandraholland@...
 

Hi, I am looking for information on Lisa Bates, nee BAKER. She married Paul Bates in East London/Essex in April 1990. They both worked for Schlumberger and went on to have a son, Jonathan.  

Thank you and best wishes, 

from Alexandra Holland


Re: Pearl FINKELSTEIN missing death records 1891

The Becker's Email
 

Ancestry has the Manitoba death index for a female Finkelstein who died 8 April 1895.  Have you checked this record?  If this is not Perl, consider that she may have died in route to Winnipeg.  The ship's manifest says they were going to Chicago which was probably on their westward route to Winnipeg. Possibly she died before arrival in Winnipeg..  
Name:Finkelstein
Gender:Female
Death Date:8 Apr 1895
Death Place:Wpg, Manitoba, CanadaURL:http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
 
The birth record for baby Pearl gives a  DOB of 1896, not 1895 (Source:  Manitoba birth index on Ancestry)
Name: Pearl Finkelstein
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 8 Oct 1896
Birth Place: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Mother: Chancie Lander
Johanna Becker
Newport, RI, USA


Re: Joining Ukraine discussion #ukraine

dwhitehead2634@...
 

Excellent! Thank you!

No ties to MI5 but they were given a notebook found on his possession with information about the scheme but he joined an affiliated regiment of the French Foreign Legion and was captured by the Germans in June 1940 in the Somme area. From there, his trail disappears.

Dennis Whitehead


Re: Ajfer Wasserzug #general

Rachel Steinhouse
 

I have Wasserzug in my Margel family from Britain.  

I also live in Toronto and I saw that you are looking for a death certificate.  If the death was in the last 30 years or more, you can go onto the 2 burial sites, Benjamin’s park memorial Or Steeles Memorial and go into their archives. You could then request a death certificate.

Rachel Margel Steinhouse 


Pearl FINKELSTEIN missing death records 1891

Kenneth Packer
 

Paul,
I do not know the specific answer to your question, but I have many relatives in Winnipeg.  The majority of them who have passed away are buried in Hebrew Sick Benefit Cemetery, 2605 McPhillips St., Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.  Maybe the cemetery has some data on your family.
 
Good luck,
Ken Packer
Washingtonville, NY

Researching: PEKER, PACKER, BECKER, PECKER from anywhere in the Ukraine, especially towns within a 100 mile radius for Kiev (Korostyshev, Zhitomer, Koristan, Brusilov, Khordorkev, Rudni). 





Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

ntc52@...
 

Jewishgen has a database on: 'Rovno, Poland community fee contributions' February 1939. 
This lists Names, addresses, occupations and amount contributed. you may be lucky and find a relative.
Noreen  Clark (England)
Szczepanski / Mrozowska


Re: Soviet Union genealogy #russia

Pavel Bernshtam
 

Try following WWII resources (all in Russian, of course):
http://podvignaroda.ru/?#tab=navPeople_search
https://obd-memorial.ru/html/index.html

Pavel Bernshtam


Re: Turkish or Sabbatean Jews and Jews from Salonika #general

Sherri Bobish
 


Robin,

Have you checked if www.familysearch.org has vital or other types of records from those regions?

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: Soviet Union genealogy #russia

Gary Khusidman
 

Ozzy,

The question is too vague.  It may be more helpful if you indicated the last names and towns where they lived.  If you have first names and birth years, it may help narrow things down a little more, especially with common last names.

Sincerely, 
Gary Khusidman 


Re: Jewish Refugee Admissions to the U.S. in 1940 #usa #holocaust

Sherri Bobish
 


Hi Linda,

We probably have to separate two things here.  The U.S. allowed a very restricted amount of immigrants at that time, and we now know that for years The U.S. was not even using the small allocated amount of permissible immigrants in from certain countries, i.e. Germany.

It makes sense that people would remember it as The U.S. not taking any more immigrants, considering how hard it was to get a spot.

This page from The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is very informative on the subject.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-united-states-and-the-refugee-crisis-1938-41


Regards,

Sherri Bobish


On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 08:46 PM, Linda Higgins wrote:
That is about the same time my grandfather's brother immigrated from the Russian Empire.  His descendants have told me that the United States was not taking any more immigrants at the time and he went to Argentina.

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