Re: Looking for lists of immigrants to Palestine from 1927 onwards #israel #austria-czech #general

Diane Jacobs

Yes, I would love the answer to do this from about 1924 - 1940.
Thanks, Diane jacobs
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On Feb 24, 2021, at 5:50 AM, veronicazundel@... wrote:

I think I asked this before but have lost the information. How would I find lists of immigrants to Palestine from 1927 onwards? I am looking for possible survivors of my mother's birth family (she was adopted in Vienna), on the basis that her eldest sibling Josef Jakob Horoschowski was planning to emigrate from Vienna to Palestine in 1927, with one of his other sisters (possible Chaje Sarah b. 1910).
Veronica Zundel, London
Searching descendants of Josef Jakob Horoschowski b. 1905 Drohobych

Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

ViewMate request - Poland - USA(New York) #records #usa

Liza Giller

For several years I have been studying the history of the Frenkel family from Rovno.
From childhood I knew that my dad, Frenkel Tsal (Betsalel) Bentsionovich was born in 1910 and lived in the city of Rivne before the war.  At the beginning of the war, he was drafted into the army. His parents died during the war. Dad told me many times that my grandmother's name was Leia, grandfather was Bentsion, and that my brother and I were named after them.
In New York, at the Beth David Elmont Cemetery, Section E, Block 4, there is a memorial to the Jews killed in Rovno. It was built in 1954
The monument bears the name and surname of my grandmother Lea Frenkel.
Recently I found out my grandmother's maiden name - Saginur.
I think one of her relatives, brother or sister of my grandmother, lived in New York and brought her name to the monument.
I've posted aphoto of monument anf photo of my grandmother on ViewMate at the following address ...
  1. I am asking for help in finding the Saginur family from Rovno, who lived in New York in 1954.
 Liza Giller,  Israel, Lod
The last names of my ancestors that I study:
Frenkel (Frinkel) - Rivne, Ostrog; Saginur-Rovno, Kleban; Herzenov (Hertsinov, Hertsikov) -Belorussi; Luker (Liker) -Lithuania, Ukraine.

The Jewish Genealogy SIG of Naples/Collier County, Florida meeting in March, Tues 3/9/21 10AM EST on Zoom RSVP #announcements #education #events #general

Arthur Sissman

Hi JewGenners,


The Jewish Genealogy SIG meeting in March, Tues 3/9/21 10AM EST on Zoom RSVP #announcements #education #events #general 



The JGSIG March meeting is on Tues 3/9/21 at 10-11:30 am ET on Zoom.  Please answer questions above when you RSVP to genresearch13@... for Zoom link.
Attendance is FREE.


In addition to requesting the Zoom link, please answer the questions:


How did you find out about the meeting - JGen Discussion Group?

Where are you located?

Do you have a family tree?

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Research interest or what question are you trying to answer - not too much detail please?


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Arthur Sissman
Jewish Genealogy SIG of Naples/Collier Co FL

The Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia meeting and program #jgs-iajgs #announcements

Marilyn Golden

The Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia meeting and program
Date:  Sunday, February 28, 2021

Time:  1:00 check in, chat, and schmooze.   Official program starts promptly at 1:30 PM EST
Guest Speaker:  Leora Tec, Founder and Director, Bridge to Poland

Topic:  What is there for Jews in modern day Poland?  An Introduction to The Neshoma Project

As we know, ninety percent of Polish Jews were murdered during World War II. It's understandable that some people, especially Jews of Polish descent, might have reservations about going to Poland, the site of such vast pain and loss. And yet, Poland is an integral part of Jewish history. 

Leora Tec has travelled all over Poland having conversations with non-Jews who, in different ways, are remembering the Jews who used to be their neighbors. Those interviewed, working to heal historical wounds, come from many different fields including: scholarship, teaching, guiding, grassroots activities, museum work and the arts.

All meetings require a membership to our society EXCEPT for March 7th! Free Beginner's workshop! See our website for more information.

Marilyn Mazer Golden VP
mazergoldenjgsgp@... f

Need assistance in translating text on the back of this greeting card. #translation #yiddish


I'd really appreciate it if someone helps me with the translation of the text on the back of this greeting card? Unfortunately, it was cut i hope that it will be possible to get some information from this. Which language is this - Yiddish or Hebrew? The words below are in Russian and i can read them. This is a picture of my great grandfather Pinkhas Krivoviaz (son to Moishe-Leib Krivoviaz) who was born in Tomashpol (Ukriane) and later lived in Bălți (Romania and later the Republic of Moldova).
Thanks in advance!
Olga Krivoviaz

Re: Marriages in London #germany #unitedkingdom

Dan Ruby

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 03:39 PM, Eva Lawrence wrote:
I think that the most likely reason for people to travel to London from Berlin simply in order to marry, was that they wanted a civil, rather than a religious ceremony, and that this was not available in Prussia. 
This record agrees with your theory. However, I have another case in 1908 where another RINGEL family member from Berlin married in London at the Great Synagogue. In both cases, two Berlin couples traveled together for London marriages. Most or all of the parties in the four marriages were born in Austria but lived in Berlin. 
= Dan Ruby

Re: Genealogy Programs #general

Mike Coleman


Mike Coleman  London U.K.

Re: Genealogy Programs #general

Bob Silverstein

Fred, what you describe is Family Tree Maker.  I have been using it for fifteen years or so and recommend it highly.  Two other advantages are that it has a lot of tutorials and notes online plus it interfaces with  If you are researching documents, then FTM and Ancestry work together very nicely.  You will have to put your tree on Ancestry but you can keep it totally private.  Keeping the two trees, the one on your computer and the other online, in sync is easy and reliable.  Since I have not used other programs, I cannot compare FTM to any others.  
Bob Silverstein
Elk Grove Village, IL

Researching Kaplan (Krynki, Poland) Tzipershteyn (Logishin, Pinsk, Belarus), Friedson/Fridzon (Motol, Cuba, Massachusetts), Israel and Goodman (Mishnitz, Warsaw, Manchester).

Re: Move from Lodz to Falkenstein? #germany #lodz

Bernard Flam

Hi from Paris,
Dear Peter,
My GF Avrom Zysman left Lodz just after WW1 in 1919 (and just before being drafted in Polish army) and lived 4 years in Germany before immigrating to Paris in 1924.
I have some facts concerning his and perhaps your Russek's history.
  1. During WW1, Lodz had been occupied very early by German armies and this occupation had offered a better life to Jewish inhabitants. First because almost any rule was better than antisemitic Russian (Tsar's) rule. Second because German occupation wasn't antisemitic : Germany used this opposition between Polish / Russian populations of Lodz and Jewish to reinforce its power. We have pictures of German soldiers in Lodz' main street among fearless Jewish persons, distributing food or allowing Jewish newspapers.
  2. During WW1, young German men were drafted in army and Germany needed workforce in its industries or fields. Germany offered work to young Polish (including Jewish) men and a lot could discover German cities and what was life in Germany. May I add Jewish Labor Bund prevented its khaveyrim to take part of German war economy ( and later army enrollment). Nevertheless, this period had been a moment when Jews could discover and appreciate Germany.
  3. Germany was only on Polish border other side, offering an opportunity for a better life nor far from family left in the old country.
  4. Last but not the least, Yiddish offers a good and easy entry to German,...much better than to French or English !
As soon as 1923, Nazi party took a larger place in German political life.
Then 1933 with Hitler's nominated as chancellor, or 1938 Kristal Nacht.
These three dates had been red warnings when Jews could decide to leave Germany before it was too late.

My GF Avrom left Germany in 1924 : I am well and alive and living in Paris to tell his story.

Bernard Flam
Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund / Workmen Circle of France)
Found :  Zysman, Kronenberg, Rottersman of Lodz

Re: German marriages held in London in 1905? #unitedkingdom #germany

Corinna Woehrl

Dear list readers,

I don't remember any law contradicting a marriage with foreigners: I guess that they didn't have all the necessary documents and perhaps in London less paperwork was required.
I would like to pass the question on to a german-genealogy Mailinglist specialized in the area of Berlin. I will hopefully come back with more information.

Perhaps you could give me more details on the couples (via private mail)? How old were the bride and groom: perhaps the age of maturity was relevant (Germany then 21)?
It would be helpful to know if the problem only occurred with marriages involving Galician Jews.

Kind regards from Germany
Corinna Wöhrl, Hoisdorf (near Hamburg)

Re: Original personal name for USA Nettie #general

Irene Bowen

Our ancestor Nettie's name was Nestle..  Her Hebrew name was Nesheh or Nesia.

Irene Bowen
Silver Spring, MD, USA

Looking for lists of immigrants to Palestine from 1927 onwards #israel #austria-czech #general

Veronica Zundel

I think I asked this before but have lost the information. How would I find lists of immigrants to Palestine from 1927 onwards? I am looking for possible survivors of my mother's birth family (she was adopted in Vienna), on the basis that her eldest sibling Josef Jakob Horoschowski was planning to emigrate from Vienna to Palestine in 1927, with one of his other sisters (possible Chaje Sarah b. 1910).
Veronica Zundel, London
Searching descendants of Josef Jakob Horoschowski b. 1905 Drohobych

How to find record that states "Lewin 'Birth Records'" see enclosed pdf #general #unitedkingdom


Found this via the 1851 census records. Hope someone knows how this works.
Ron Peeters
Ulvenhout (NL)

New and Updated Databases on IGRA’s Website #israel #records

Elena Bazes


The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) has just released new and updated databases on its website. There are now over 1,800,000 records available in our databases. With each release we provide a variety of records to our collection.

 A preview of the database is available at


New Databases


Residents Haifa Hadar Hacarmel 1934-1935                  4,071 listings

Haifa Municipal Archives


Law Certificate Examinations 1938-1943                     130 listings

Israel State Archives


Graduates Gymnasia Herzeliyya  1918-2005                 12,143 listings


Tourist Visas New York Consulate 1953                      39 listings


Updated Database


Voters Knesset Israel 1944 Tel Aviv         Letters gimmel-heh, het
16,230 listings

Tel Aviv – Yafo Municipal Archives


Name Changes 1949                         4,538 listings
Yalkut Hapirsumim


1963 Telephone Directory                           Haifa Letters S-Z, Akko & the South
4,744 listings

Library of Congress


Before viewing and searching the databases, please register for free on the IGRA website:


Please note, the IGRA databases are now searchable to all registrants. The search results page is also available to all registrants. Additional details regarding most databases are available only to paid IGRA members. Certain exceptions exist due to requests of the specific archives.



To view/search the databases, go to the database tab on the website.


Elena Biegel Bazes

IGRA Publicity Chair


US Marriage Authorisation #usa

Richard Gilbert


In this instance US is not referring to the United States but the United Synagogue.

The United Synagogue is the largest group of synagogues in the United Kingdom. It was 150 years old last year. It is headed by the Chief Rabbi, Ephraim Mirvis and has 66 modern orthodox synagogues under its umbrella, which for the U.K. makes it the largest Jewish synagogue body.

Marriage Authorisations were introduced and are still used today to confirm that a person is halachically Jewish thereby enabling them to marry in one of the United Synagogue’s synagogues.

Until 1966 these authorisations were issued for virtually all orthodox marriages within the United Kingdom irrespective of which body of orthodox synagogues was marrying the couple. In 1966 the Federation of Synagogues took over responsibility for marriages under its auspices.

It is testament to the system that it has been robust enough to serve Anglo Jewry for well over 140 years.

Richard Gilbert
Bushey Heath, Hertfordshire

Need help translating Hebrew on gravestones & memorial plaques #translation #names

Chloe Kogan

Hello! I recently posted a few gravestones and a couple of memorial plaques, and the community was immediately and completely helpful with translating the Hebrew into English. Those translations really jump started my research and helped me discover additional gravestones and memorial plaques. I'm posting a total of 14 items below that I would greatly appreciate help with translating to English. I'm sorry for the large number of images and I don't mean to ask too much of the community or abuse your generosity. Thank you in advance for all your time and help!

  • Abraham Fisher memorial plaque
  • Arline Fisher memorial plaque
  • Leo Fisher memorial plaque
  • Pauline Fisher gravestone
  • Pauline Fisher memorial plaque
  • Sarah Fisher memorial plaque
  • David Fisher gravestone
  • Dora Fisher gravestone
  • Dora Fisher memorial plaque
  • Gussie Fisher memorial plaque
  • Harry Fisher gravestone
  • Harry Fisher memorial plaque
  • Jacob Fisher memorial plaque
  • Lawrence Fisher memorial plaque
Chloë Kogan
Email: 802ben@...
Researching surnames:
Kogan, Fisher, Margolis, Bercovici

Re: UK Marriage Authorisation Interpretation Questions and Translation Request #unitedkingdom

Martyn Woolf



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

It seems that somewhere there has been a mix-up between US  (United States) and US (United Synagogue). The latter does issue Authorisations for Marriage in United Kingdom.



Martyn Woolf

London NW3

Emigration from the UK to the US #records

Alan Reische

I have identified what may be my family group outbound from Hamburg on
the Argo in June 1879. A very helpful JewGen participant advised that
Argo was only a local boat that likely disembarked passengers at Hull
for train travel to Liverpool or other ports for the longer journey to
New York. The Hamburg records indicate the family had New York as a
destination, but that may only indicate that they had booked through
passage, not necessarily all on the Argo. . I cannot find any record of
them disembarking at Hull or emigrating from another port to the US, but
I am unfamiliar with UK records. Would disembarkation for through
travelers and subsequent departure from the UK have required recording
in UK immigration records? I'd appreciate any suggestions about what
records exist and where I should be looking for them.

An additional oddity: The family left Hamburg under the surname of
'Rinschek', but that name never appears again in any of the UK or US
immigration or post-immigration records I've looked at, ranging from
city directories to census reports.

Alan Reische

Manchester NH USA


Invitation to JGSSN Zoom meeting: "Why Did Our Jewish Ancestors Leave a Great Place Like the Pale?" with Hal Bookbinder #events

Ben Kempner

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada (JGSSN) invites you to a Zoom meeting at 1:00 p.m. (Pacific Daylight Time) on Sunday, March 21: “Why Did Our Jewish Ancestors Leave a Great Place Like the Pale?” with Hal Bookbinder.


To request a Zoom link, please complete this short form: Zoom Link Request


Members of JGSSN can attend for free.  Non-members can either pay $5.00 on the Donate page or pay $20 for a subscription to the 2021 series of outstanding speakers (see below).  Take a look at the lineup on our Meetings page. To become a member and sign up for the 2021 series, go to the Membership page.


Session Description:


Jews had lived in Western Russia (the Pale) for centuries. At the turn of the last, two million left. This talk discusses how the Pale came to be, life in it and why the mass migration occurred. It breaks its 120-year history into periods of creation, confinement, repression, enlightenment, pogroms and chaos. There is more to the story than the horrific violence at the turn of the 20th century.


About Hal Bookbinder:


Hal writes and lectures extensively on diverse genealogical topics, including border changes, migration, citizenship and practicing safe computing. He has identified over 4,000 relatives, tracing two lines to the mid-1700s in modern Ukraine. He has served as president of the IAJGS and has been honored with its Lifetime Achievement Award. Hal is a retired information technology director who continues to teach at the university level. He also directs a transition-to-work training program for individuals in addiction recovery. Hal and his family reside in the Los Angeles area. Check out his articles on safe computing at


JGSSN 2021 Lecture Series:


Become a member for $20 by clicking here and attend any or all of the upcoming lectures:

Ben Kempner 
Vice President, JGSSN

Re: Translation Help with Signature #translation #russia


Had a typo in the last name - "Мария Паращак/Maria Parashchak"

Mike Vayser

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