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Re: Numbers on 1895 UK passenger list #unitedkingdom #general

Gail H. Marcus
 

Here is an explanation I received though private correspondence:
I can’t decipher the actual symbol that precedes the numbers, but I think the numbers themselves are actually the contract ticket numbers, which are not entered in the column headed “no of contract ticket”. I don’t know why they have been entered in the “age” column, other than perhaps the practical reason that the “contract ticket” column wasn’t wide enough. The clerk clearly didn’t adhere to the form with regard to other nationalities of passenger, notably in the Irish column, which has been used to record destinations.
This was provided to me by Prof. Marjory Harper of the University of Aberdeen who maintains a website on Scottish emigration:

https://www.abdn.ac.uk/emigration/methodology.html

I have her permission to post this response and her name.

Gail Marcus
ghmarcus@...


Historical Jewish Press #announcements

Lee Jaffe
 

Forwarding item from H-Judaica 

Presenting:  Eyal Miller, Technology Manager for the Historical Jewish Press at the National Library of Israel, for an in-depth exploration of all the resources and tools that the Historical Jewish Press offers scholars and researchers.

 

Event Information: https://library.harvard.edu/evepts/historical-jewish-press

No registration is required.  Event is open to the Public

 
Join a guided tour of the Historical Jewish Press Website:
March 2 at Noon

Join Eyal Miller, Technology Manager for the Historical Jewish Press at the National Library of Israel, for an in-depth exploration of all the resources and tools that the Historical Jewish Press offers scholars and researchers.
 

A few months ago the Historical Jewish Press website was given a long-awaited upgrade, making the digital archive a more powerful tool that gives users many new possibilities and options to dive deeply into the rich resources it provides. We will demonstrate how to best utilize the new platform for optimal results.

The Historical Jewish Press website (of the National Library of Israel and Tel Aviv University) is a rich repository of digitized Jewish newspapers and periodicals. It contains over 3 million pages, 400 titles from a wide geographical range (from North America to North Africa, from Eastern Europe to the land of Israel and more) and a wide variety of languages (Hebrew, Yiddish, Ladino, French, Spanish, English and more). These records, all fully searchable, shed light on modern Jewry in local and global contexts, providing rich resources for educators and scholars alike.

The Judaica Division is pleased to partner with the National Library of Israel in this significant project 

Lee Jaffe


Re: OZ newspaper 1915 puzzle Town/area MLAVA and MOLAVA? #russia #hungary #romania

pathetiq1@...
 

Hi Mandy, 
Mlava is a tributary of Danube 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mlava

Maybe this is what the newspaper meant. 
--
Giannis Daropoulos 

Greece


Re: DNA Matches - Most CentiMorgans or Largest Segment? #dna #education #poland #ukraine #galicia

Phil Karlin
 

As frustrating as Ancestry is, it has the largest database of users, and It now shows you the longest segment. Shared matches are far and away more useful than any other service. 
The lack of detailed info you get elsewhere is frustrating, but it still has been more productive for me than the other services. 
--
Phil Karlin
Hartford, CT USA


Re: OZ newspaper 1915 puzzle Town/area MLAVA and MOLAVA? #russia #hungary #romania

Diane Jacobs
 

Could be Mlawa which is in Poland.

Diane Jacobs 


On Feb 24, 2021, at 12:37 PM, mandy.molava via groups.jewishgen.org <mandy.molava=aol.com@...> wrote:

Hello

Researching surname to find links to GG birth town/hometown, found an Australian newspaper 1915 reporting areas Mlava and Molava across River Danube, Serbia? Wondering if this may have been a mistake in the news as not seen anywhere spelt the same 'Molava'. 

Thanks in advance
Mandy Molava
Researching Brest Belaurus Galacia Grodno and much more!

--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: ViewMate request - Poland - USA(New York) #records #usa

Diane Jacobs
 

The Center for Jewish History has the landmanschaft incorporation papers in NYC
on microfilm which would basically give you the names and addresses of the founding
officers.

You could also call Beth David Cemetery
In Elmont NY just over the Queens border
And ask them if they have a contact name
and number for this society as they are most likely defunct. But worth a try.  Also ask them if they will give you a list or a map of names of all buried in this society.  If you get someone,
Not too helpful or willing to assist you, call back a different day and try again.

Should you find a possible family name, call again and ask if they will take a photo of the grave for you.

Hope this helps.
Diane jacobs


On Feb 24, 2021, at 12:40 PM, avivahpinski@... via groups.jewishgen.org <avivahpinski=verizon.net@...> wrote:

YIVO Institute in NYC has vast archives and many records from Landsleit Societies  You can find YIVO, located at the Center for Jewish History in NYC
by googling the web site. 

Note:  not all of my reply links are working. 
--
Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA

--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: Marriages in London #germany #unitedkingdom

sharon yampell
 

Guess I will have to tell the cousin who thought Rose could be found in Brooklyn, that he is wrong…I only wish she and Nathan had had children; it would have been nice to find more cousins…

 

Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, New Jersey

 

From: Corinna Woehrl
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 12:40 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Marriages in London #germany #unitedkingdom

 

Hello all,

I am sorry to disagree with this assumption: from 1874 on, a civil marriage necessarily precedes any religious marriage in Germany (and then Prussia) – until now.
Berlin was a melting pot with various religious communities and If you wanted to 'be different' you could. In a smaller town, people would have cared but not in Berlin. There must have been a different reason. My guess is missing documents and fewer questions in London...

Regards from Germany
Corinna (Wöhrl), Hoisdorf

 


Announcing the publication of the translation of the Gombin Yizkor Book #poland #yizkorbooks #JewishGenUpdates

Joel Alpert
 

Announcing the publication of the translation of the Gombin Yizkor
Book by the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project
"Gombin: The Life and Destruction of a Jewish Town in Poland"

Translation of Gombin: Dos Lebn un Umkum fun a Yiddish Shtetl in Poylin
Original Yizkor Book Edited by: A. Shulman
Published in New York, 1969
Translation Project Coordinators: Leon Zamosc, Ada Holtzman z”l
Layout: Jonathan Wind
Cover Design: Jan Fine
Name Indexing: Jonathan Wind
Hardcover: 8.5” by 11”, 450 pages with original photographs.

Available from JewishGen for $32, 450 pages

For more information and how to order go to:
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Gabin.html

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project
YBIP@...


Re: Marriages in London #germany #unitedkingdom

Corinna Woehrl (nee Goslar)
 

Hello all,

I am sorry to disagree with this assumption: from 1874 on, a civil marriage necessarily precedes any religious marriage in Germany (and then Prussia) – until now.
Berlin was a melting pot with various religious communities and If you wanted to 'be different' you could. In a smaller town, people would have cared but not in Berlin. There must have been a different reason. My guess is missing documents and fewer questions in London...

Regards from Germany
Corinna (Wöhrl), Hoisdorf


Re: Genealogy Programs #general

Max Heffler
 

I find Family Tree Maker merge function much more effective that Family Tree Builder’s more-manual method, although Family Tree Maker crashes a lot on me and things get corrupt with the local database. I am glad that master is online for both. The local PC versions are primarily useful for merges for me. I keep my single master on ma local PC in Brother’s Keeper and then manually make the same changes on geni.com.

 

YMMV

 

Max Heffler

Houston, TX

 

From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of Susan H. Sachs via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:37 AM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Genealogy Programs #general

 

Does Family Tree Builder - which works with MyHeritage - work the same way as Bob describes FTM & Ancestry?  That is, can you put all the tree data into Family Tree Builder, and keep it just on the computer - sync it to MyHeritage (which is on-line) but make that all private?
Thanks in advance
susan.hersh.sachs@...
Beit Shemesh, Israel


Researching Hershkovics (Munkacs) Klein (Munkacs) Klein (Barkasov) Krohn (Barkasov


--

Max Heffler
Houston, TX
max@...
HEFFLER(Ukraine)/TIRAS(Poland)/WASSEMAN(Lithuania)/MOORE(Poland)/ZLOT(Lithuania)
GORENSTEIN(Ukraine)/FLEISCHMAN(Latvia)/GOLDEN(Lithuania)


Re: ViewMate request - Poland - USA(New York) #records #usa

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

YIVO Institute in NYC has vast archives and many records from Landsleit Societies  You can find YIVO, located at the Center for Jewish History in NYC
by googling the web site. 

Note:  not all of my reply links are working. 
--
Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA


Re: LDS original #general

m_tobiasiewicz@...
 

If it is an LDS film #, you can log into familysearch.org.
It's free. Sign up as non church member. 
Search
Catalog
put in the film # in that drop down and search for it. 
You can email me directly if you need help.
m_tobiasiewicz@...
--
Maryellen Tobiasiewicz
family from: Bielsko-Biala powiat Poland
Gorlice powiat Poland
Lviv Oblast Ukraine


Re: Genealogy Programs #general

Peter Cohen
 

I have also been using FTM for close to 10 years. One thing I am curious about...When FTM synchs documents & pictures that it brings down from ancestry, does it keep a copy on the local hard drive or does it only keep a link to where the item is stored on the ancestry.com server?  If it is only a link, that means that you lose all of the items if you ever cancel your ancestry account.
--
Peter Cohen
California


Re: Kra family in Paris #france #general

David Choukroun
 

Hello Joyce, Bernard, Corinne,

Simon KRA (real name Salli KRA) was married to Marguerite MEYER (connected to Hedwig MEYER)
source : Archive de Paris as per Corinne"s advice

A naturalisation as French citizen can be found in the 1884 year records
source : as usual -- Journal Officiel de la République Française

A lot can be found either via Google , either via Gallica.fr as well
Especially in the French Press as this was a famous library
--
Regards,
David CHOUKROUN

david.choukroun@...
FRANCE

CHOUKROUN ATTALI ATLANI


Re: Genealogy Programs #general

michele shari
 

I had Rootsmagic and had lots of problems with it working on my Apple computer! Their customer service was horrid.
I ended up buying MacFamily Tree and especially like that it will flag a problem (duplicates, age/date of birth is a conflict, etc) and interfaces with familysearch.org which has millions of Jewish records. It does books, reports, etc. Cost was reasonable. Has some nice features and does allow same sex marriage by changing the sex, which pops up automatically (ex, female if you are adding to a male on there already). You can play with the trial version and see if you like it. 
I think it is easy to use but is a pretty powerful program and haven't learned how to do lots of the fun stuff...yet. It does have an easy to use manual that you can download and print or save on your computer for reference. I really haven't had to use the manual much as I find the program pretty intuitive.
Good luck!
Michele Farkas
Boynton Beach, FL
Researching Farkas, Stauber, Stober, Shtauber, Stouber, Weiszhausz, Weiszhauz, Rosenfeld, Ganz, Malek, and others from Romania and Transylvania


OZ newspaper 1915 puzzle Town/area MLAVA and MOLAVA? #russia #hungary #romania

mandy.molava@...
 

Hello

Researching surname to find links to GG birth town/hometown, found an Australian newspaper 1915 reporting areas Mlava and Molava across River Danube, Serbia? Wondering if this may have been a mistake in the news as not seen anywhere spelt the same 'Molava'. 

Thanks in advance
Mandy Molava
Researching Brest Belaurus Galacia Grodno and much more!


Re: DNA Matches - Most CentiMorgans or Largest Segment? #dna #education #poland #ukraine #galicia

Alan Ehrlich
 

To be sure, I’m a big fan of Ancestry.com in general. It’s unequalled... That said, not so regarding their handling of DNA test results from other suppliers, or more precisely their absolute lack thereof. Luckily, if you tested with one of the other providers (because there arevadvantages to that), having your results uploaded to all the others (except Ancestry) leaves your resulting absence from Ancestry... Insignificant.


Especially, because I suspect it's fair to say that most serious family researchers who were tested via Ancestry (you know which ones I mean, the ones who’ll actually respond when you contact them about a match 😀) also uploaded their results to all the other databases as well. So you’ll find them anyway... and they you.

From my perspective, Ancestry not taking your test results into their database when these came from another provider much more is a ’Bug’... than  a ’Feature’ 

Kind regards,
Alan Ehrlich
Geneva, Switzerland


Re: Emigration from the UK to the US #records

Michael Sharp
 

For travel from European countries, passenger lists were not required by English immigration authorities
--
Michael Sharp
Manchester UK
michael.sharp@...


Re: Need help translating Hebrew on gravestones & memorial plaques #translation #names

Valentin Lupu
 

Here are the translations, in the same order. I didn't translate the Hebrew dates. "Ben" means son of, "bat" means daughter. Reb is only an honorific term it doesn't mean Rabbi.
  • Abraham Zelig ben Velvel
  • Chaia Rachel bat Yehoshua
  • Liber ben Schnior
  • Here lies Pascha bat Tzvi HaCohen
  • Pessal bat Herschel Tzvi HaCohen
  • Sarah bat Yehuda
  • Here lies our dear father Tevie ben Reb Tzvi Hirsch
  • Our dear mother Mrs. Deba Dvorah bat Reb Yaakov
  • Dvorah bat Yaakov
  • Gitel bat Reb Meir Halevi
  • Our dear father Tzvi ben Yishaia
  • Tzvi ben Yishayahu
  • Yaakov ben Tzvi
  • Chaim Leib ben Reb Avraham Zelig

Valentin Lupu
ISRAEL


Re: UK Marriage Authorisation Interpretation Questions and Translation Request #unitedkingdom

David Harrison
 

This is a question of crossed lines.  I think that Authorizations relate to Orthodox Jewish Weddings in Britain under their Beth Din and are not a part of Civil Marriages.  Usually existing membership of a Synagogue is required and that may have needed to have been proved with the Ketubah for the parent of the person being married.  But for a non-member the Ketubah would have been needed by officers of the Chief Rabbi if it were possible or then maybe a meeting with questions on the reality of the Jewish ancestry of the person .  Certainly, pre-WW1 the United Synagogue only had one Rabbi (as the Chief) all other people who now would be Rabbis were Reverends and that person might only give the D'vah Torah (or sermon) whilst the Chozen led the majority of the service as is still often the style in many places.

David Harrison
Birmingham, England


From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of Sally Bruckheimer via groups.jewishgen.org <sallybruc=yahoo.com@...>
Sent: 23 February 2021 20:53
To: main@... <main@...>
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] UK Marriage Authorisation Interpretation Questions and Translation Request #unitedkingdom
 
"Thanks for raising the subject of US Marriage Authorisations". I don't think you are talking about US Marriage Authorizations - there is no such thing. In the US, each state has its own rules, and we have Marriages Licenses, not Authorizations.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

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