Re: German marriages held in London in 1905? #unitedkingdom #germany

This is mostinteresting, because we also have an unexplained marriage involving Berlin. My husband's grandparents were students at the University in Berlin in 1897. They had moved from Warsaw. We have a marriage announcement card that says that they were married in Belin in June 1897.  We have an official wedding license from Geneva Switzerland with a date of September 8, 1897.  We have been unable to figure this out.  Any ideas?  
Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA

Re: Genealogical Revelations of Hungarian Jewish Families - First Volume Editor - Munkatchi #hungary

Larry Briggs

I would be very interested to learn more about this work. Is it specific to periods, regions, etc. 

Thank you.

Larry Briggs

Early Jewish Cemeteries in New Haven? #usa

Peter Cohen

If someone died in New Haven in the 1890s or early 1900s, what Jewish cemeteries were available for their burial?
Peter Cohen

Re: Seeking help to locate Prussia ancestor’s family town 1830s #germany #poland

David Levine

This might help:
  • "Germany" as in the country (Deutsches Reich) was not created until the unification in 1871, after the Franco-Prussian war
  • Before 1871, and after 1814, "Germany" referred to the area of independent countries in that geographical space
  • Before 1814, "Germany" referred to the lands of the Holy Roman Empire including what was the territories that later were the "Austrian" part of the Austro-Hungarian empire (as opposed to the Hungarian part)
  • In the 19th century, Prussia was the largest German state by far. Almost all of northern "Germany" from France in the West to Russia in the east was part of the Kingdom of Prussia
  • Between the 1770s and 1793, Prussia also took a part of Poland in the partition
  • See: for a map
1860 PreuBen   -> He came from Prussia the country
1863-65 Germany  --> here they used the geographical term
1870 Prussia -->  Still state of Prussia
1880 Poland  -> This is either a mistake (because he was Jewish and the enumerator assumed; or, this is valuable information in that your ancestor is saying he came from the part of Prussia taken from Poland in the partition
1900-1915 Germany  ---> The correct post-1871 unification term for Germany is used here

David Levine
San Francisco, CA, USA

Re: How to find record that states "Lewin 'Birth Records'" see enclosed pdf #general #unitedkingdom

Julia Trainor

This might help?
Židovská náboženská obec Mikulov, Rejstřík (z roku 1913) k matrikám, NOZ 1762 - 1912, I. část: narození, N 1762 - 1912, písmena A - I | Jewish Museum Collections

Julia Trainor
Canberra, Australia
Researching in Austrian Czech lands:   Auspitzer, Deutsch, Fessler, Glesinger, Gottlieb, Schmidl, Weingarten

English translation of Robert Ehrman's book about Strakonice, CZ (Bohemia) #translation


Hello group,
I am looking for an English translation of Robert Ehrman's book about Strakonice, CZ (Bohemia) that was recommended. Does anyone know where I can find an English copy?
Thanks in advance,
Sheldon J. Reber
Santa Rosa, CA 95404

Help with research in Kiev during Soviet era #ukraine #general

Michael Moritz

I would be grateful for help with research in the city of Kiev. I am researching brothers who were born in Skvira in 1913 and 1921, who later, by the beginning of the war, moved to Kiev. Their names were Rakhmil and Yakov Kozlov.

I am trying to find out the whereabouts of their father Joseph Kozlov and I want to determine the name of Joseph's father. I know that Joseph was born approx. 1885 either in Bila Tserkva or in Volodarka, and his wife's name was Enya Segal. I think they died, most likely, in Kiev, and if not in Kiev, then in Skvira. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
Michael Moritz
New York

BJALIN family from Sweden #canada

Paul Silverstone

I am looking for information on the BJALIN family who came from Sweden
to Winnipeg. Esther Bjalin was born in Sweden in 1881 (or 1868) and
married Jacob Greengard in Winnipeg in 1906. She died in 1946 and is
buried in Shaarey Zedek Cemetery. She had brothers named Sam and Max.
Her wedding article describes her as a niece of David Ripstein with
whom she was living since arriving in Winnipeg in 1897, also that her
father was living in Goteborg, Sweden. The article also says she was a
cousin of Hattie Shapira of Duluth, Minn. I believe they lived in
Russia before Sweden.
Paul Silverstone
West Vancouver, BC


Re: Genealogy Programs #general


I have Family Tree Maker for over 15 years and find that it does all that you want (including same-sex marriages), and is very easy to use.
If you have an Ancestry account, FTM will sutomatically fill in data when it does a search on Ancestry (a big time saver).  You do NOT have to put your tree on Ancestry in order to do automated searches.  You only have to put it on Ancestry if you want Ancestry to notify you of possible links (and you can get the same "suggestions" when you do a web search from FTM).

Susan Gray, Chicago

 -FELDSTEIN / FELDSZTAJN / FELTON / FELTYN etc.; GOLDBERG; WEINSTEIN / WEINSZTEIN etc. from Warsaw, Lutsk, Kamenets Podolskiy, Kholm.
-APPLE / APPEL / APEL etc; TAUB; LINEAL / LINIAL; KLEIN from Burshtyn, Rogatin, Sarniki, Putyatinsy, Dem'yanov, Solova.
-PAILET / PEYLET / PAILED / PEJLET etc; ITZCOVITZ / ITSKOVITCH etc. from Butrimonys, Panosiskes, Nemajunai, Vilnius, Drosgusitz.
-RATSAN / RACAN; SIROTA from Butrimonys, Jieznas, Brishton.

Re: Genealogy Programs #general

Michael Herzlich

For an image from Ancestry, Family Tree Maker creates a folder for media below the FTM main folder.  So if you have a tree names "tree" the default media folder location would be:

C:\Users\username\Documents\Family Tree Maker\tree Media

If you open the media file from FTM on the bottom to the right of the image would be displayed the file name and the file location.

If you add an image to FTM from your hard drive it asks if you want to create a copy in its' Media folder or reference the copy on your hard drive.  I always keep a copy in the media folder so when I do a full backup I don't have to worry about the files not in the media folder.

Michael Herzlich
Delray Beach, Florida USA

Galicia (Poland, Ukraine) - HERZLICH, TREIBER

Re: Emigration from the UK to the US #records


There were only 18 passengers,  7 families,  on the Argo, leaving Hamburg on 24 June, 1879 :  Wagner, Grunberg, Mendelsohn, Raplan/Kaplan, Manfried, Rinschek, Ranquist.  In my experience as a contributor to the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild   I found people traveling to England from Hamburg and bound for the USA via Liverpool were often found listed close together on both ships.  Searching NY arrivals in 1879 for each family in turn yielded only one result.  Manfried on the Scythia, arriving NY on 9 July.  Close examination of the Scythia manifest showed 13 of the Argo passengers, 5 families, all together, line by line.  The handwriting on the Argo manifest was unusually clear and legible, but  on the Scythia so difficult to read that the family names were barely recognizable.  One exception, Raplan, was clearly written as Kaplan.  Also, an additional member of the Grunberg family appears.   Unfortunately, for your purposes, the two families not aboard the Scythia on any of the manifest pages were Rinschek and Ranquist.  

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 2/23/2021 9:08 PM, Alan Reische wrote:
I have identified what may be my family group outbound from Hamburg on
the Argo in June 1879. A very helpful JewGen participant advised that
Argo was only a local boat that likely disembarked passengers at Hull
for train travel to Liverpool or other ports for the longer journey to
New York. The Hamburg records indicate the family had New York as a
destination, but that may only indicate that they had booked through
passage, not necessarily all on the Argo. . I cannot find any record of
them disembarking at Hull or emigrating from another port to the US, but
I am unfamiliar with UK records. Would disembarkation for through
travelers and subsequent departure from the UK have required recording
in UK immigration records? I'd appreciate any suggestions about what
records exist and where I should be looking for them.

An additional oddity: The family left Hamburg under the surname of
'Rinschek', but that name never appears again in any of the UK or US
immigration or post-immigration records I've looked at, ranging from
city directories to census reports.

Alan Reische

Manchester NH USA


Re: Shtetl Malaszewiec, Poland #poland #belarus

Alexander Sharon


Correct town name is Malaszewicze, Poland. Place is indeed located within 4 miles SSW distance from Terespol. Village was subdivides into two separate entities: Malaszewicze Wielkie (Large) and Malaszewicze Male (Little). During WWI about one thousand Jewish slave labours were forced to work on the construction of Luftwaffe airfield in Malaszewicze. Following the end of construction work, all Jewish slave labours have been killed in the nearby Kobylany.

Beside the JGFF Gazetteer entry for the village there is also single entry for Malaszewicze made in 2000 by researcher # 2002 for the surname Cheskes

Surname Town Country Last Updated Researcher (JGID Code)
Cheskes Malaszewicze Poland 7 Nov 2000 Click HERE to contact Researcher #2002

Last logged in: January 2021


Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor

Re: Second try: How do I make a payment to a Ukrainian Archive? #ukraine #translation

Phyllis Berenson

MoneyGram and Western Union are both inexpensive and work well for Ukraine.
MoneyGram is easier, but you need to go to CVS with cash.
Western Union is done online, but is a more complicated procedure.
  I think they just need a person's name and address to receive the payment.

Phyllis Gold Berenson
San Francisco & Sonoma California
JewishGen Director of Ukraine Research

Re: Numbers on 1895 UK passenger list #unitedkingdom #general

Gail H. Marcus

Here is an explanation I received though private correspondence:
I can’t decipher the actual symbol that precedes the numbers, but I think the numbers themselves are actually the contract ticket numbers, which are not entered in the column headed “no of contract ticket”. I don’t know why they have been entered in the “age” column, other than perhaps the practical reason that the “contract ticket” column wasn’t wide enough. The clerk clearly didn’t adhere to the form with regard to other nationalities of passenger, notably in the Irish column, which has been used to record destinations.
This was provided to me by Prof. Marjory Harper of the University of Aberdeen who maintains a website on Scottish emigration:

I have her permission to post this response and her name.

Gail Marcus

Historical Jewish Press #announcements

Lee Jaffe

Forwarding item from H-Judaica 

Presenting:  Eyal Miller, Technology Manager for the Historical Jewish Press at the National Library of Israel, for an in-depth exploration of all the resources and tools that the Historical Jewish Press offers scholars and researchers.


Event Information:

No registration is required.  Event is open to the Public

Join a guided tour of the Historical Jewish Press Website:
March 2 at Noon

Join Eyal Miller, Technology Manager for the Historical Jewish Press at the National Library of Israel, for an in-depth exploration of all the resources and tools that the Historical Jewish Press offers scholars and researchers.

A few months ago the Historical Jewish Press website was given a long-awaited upgrade, making the digital archive a more powerful tool that gives users many new possibilities and options to dive deeply into the rich resources it provides. We will demonstrate how to best utilize the new platform for optimal results.

The Historical Jewish Press website (of the National Library of Israel and Tel Aviv University) is a rich repository of digitized Jewish newspapers and periodicals. It contains over 3 million pages, 400 titles from a wide geographical range (from North America to North Africa, from Eastern Europe to the land of Israel and more) and a wide variety of languages (Hebrew, Yiddish, Ladino, French, Spanish, English and more). These records, all fully searchable, shed light on modern Jewry in local and global contexts, providing rich resources for educators and scholars alike.

The Judaica Division is pleased to partner with the National Library of Israel in this significant project 

Lee Jaffe

Re: OZ newspaper 1915 puzzle Town/area MLAVA and MOLAVA? #russia #hungary #romania


Hi Mandy, 
Mlava is a tributary of Danube

Maybe this is what the newspaper meant. 
Giannis Daropoulos 


Re: DNA Matches - Most CentiMorgans or Largest Segment? #dna #education #poland #ukraine #galicia

Phil Karlin

As frustrating as Ancestry is, it has the largest database of users, and It now shows you the longest segment. Shared matches are far and away more useful than any other service. 
The lack of detailed info you get elsewhere is frustrating, but it still has been more productive for me than the other services. 
Phil Karlin
Hartford, CT USA

Re: OZ newspaper 1915 puzzle Town/area MLAVA and MOLAVA? #russia #hungary #romania

Diane Jacobs

Could be Mlawa which is in Poland.

Diane Jacobs 

On Feb 24, 2021, at 12:37 PM, mandy.molava via <> wrote:


Researching surname to find links to GG birth town/hometown, found an Australian newspaper 1915 reporting areas Mlava and Molava across River Danube, Serbia? Wondering if this may have been a mistake in the news as not seen anywhere spelt the same 'Molava'. 

Thanks in advance
Mandy Molava
Researching Brest Belaurus Galacia Grodno and much more!

Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

Re: ViewMate request - Poland - USA(New York) #records #usa

Diane Jacobs

The Center for Jewish History has the landmanschaft incorporation papers in NYC
on microfilm which would basically give you the names and addresses of the founding

You could also call Beth David Cemetery
In Elmont NY just over the Queens border
And ask them if they have a contact name
and number for this society as they are most likely defunct. But worth a try.  Also ask them if they will give you a list or a map of names of all buried in this society.  If you get someone,
Not too helpful or willing to assist you, call back a different day and try again.

Should you find a possible family name, call again and ask if they will take a photo of the grave for you.

Hope this helps.
Diane jacobs

On Feb 24, 2021, at 12:40 PM, avivahpinski@... via <> wrote:

YIVO Institute in NYC has vast archives and many records from Landsleit Societies  You can find YIVO, located at the Center for Jewish History in NYC
by googling the web site. 

Note:  not all of my reply links are working. 
Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA

Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

Re: Marriages in London #germany #unitedkingdom

sharon yampell

Guess I will have to tell the cousin who thought Rose could be found in Brooklyn, that he is wrong…I only wish she and Nathan had had children; it would have been nice to find more cousins…


Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, New Jersey


From: Corinna Woehrl
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 12:40 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [] Marriages in London #germany #unitedkingdom


Hello all,

I am sorry to disagree with this assumption: from 1874 on, a civil marriage necessarily precedes any religious marriage in Germany (and then Prussia) – until now.
Berlin was a melting pot with various religious communities and If you wanted to 'be different' you could. In a smaller town, people would have cared but not in Berlin. There must have been a different reason. My guess is missing documents and fewer questions in London...

Regards from Germany
Corinna (Wöhrl), Hoisdorf


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