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Re: Washington Heights by LBI #usa

David Cherson
 

Hi Ralph,
Yes I had heard about the Jackson Heights store but was never there.  There was also one in Inwood but that closed up as well.  Where to get aufschnitt these days?  Well there is the "competition", i.e., Abeles & Hyman, and maybe one or two others claiming to have cervelatwurst but none of them can touch my father-in-law's product.  I know people still lament it to this day.

David Cherson


German Translation #germany #translation

dross7@...
 


Descendants of Josef Jakob Horoschowska or his sister, in Israel #israel #general

Veronica Zundel
 

I am looking for descendants os my mother’s birth family who fled from Drohobych, Galicia in 1914 (my mother was born in Vienna, fostered and later adopted). Her eldest brother Josef Jakob Horoschowski, b. 1905, came to see her in 1927 to say he was trying to get to what was then Palestine, with one of his sisters (probably Chaje Sarah born 1910). Are there records of immigrants to Palestine from this period? I would be looking for 1927 onwards.
 
Veronica Zundel, London, UK

72 Wilton Rd
London N10 1LT



 

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Veronica Zundel, London
Searching descendants of Josef Jakob Horoschowski b. 1905 Drohobych


Re: looking for any relatives. Listed on my birth certificate is George White and Irene Arrow from San Francisco, California. I was adopted #usa

paveanyu@...
 

Dear Cole                                                                           2nd March 2021

First of all, I wish you success, to be able to discover your biological parents and connect with  them,  their descendants , if any.

Sadly you are not alone, who have no alternative but to navigate this extremely sensitive journey.

I wonder, may I  politely suggest to research not only the family name  White, but Weisz/Weiss as well.


I am aware many Weisz/Weiss  families changed their surname to White.  

Also, I came across often Iren--the Jewish name is Rifka 

As for Estelle,( La May)  I wonder, it might be Esther--I call my grand-daughter, Esty--Estelle etc.

Please try to allocate time and check not only secular but Jewish Synagogue--birth marriage death--cemetery records

Best wishes and good luck
Veronika Pachtinger
London UK



Re: How to find record that states "Lewin 'Birth Records'" see enclosed pdf #general #unitedkingdom

Martyn Woolf
 

For anyone with Anglo-Jewish ancestry the books by Harold and Miriam Lewin are well-nigh a necessity. I use them all the time as I do the similar series, Volumes II to V, produced by Bevis Marks Synagogue.   The records cover Marriages, Births, Circumcisions and Burials over varying time periods from the earliest until about 1918 (for some of the records).  

I can always help with an occasional enquiry.

 

Regards

 

Martyn Woolf

London, NW3

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: How Weird Are We? #general

Kenneth Ryesky
 

My batting average is well below .500 for people who do not have any sort of presence on genealogy websites.  And even of those on the genealogy websites there still are some non-responses.

There are exceptions both ways, of course.  But the fact is that while genealogy is a very popular thing, a majority of the population simply is not interested.

-- KHR
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Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@... 

Researching:
RAISKY/REISKY, ARONOV, SHKOLNIK(OV), AEROV; Gomel, Belarus
GERTZIG, BRODSKY; Yelizavetgrad, Ukraine
BRODSKY, VASILESKY; Odessa, Ukraine
IZRAELSON, ARSHENOV; Yevpatoriya, Ukraine (Crimea)


Re: The German-Jewish community in Jackson Heights, New York #usa #germany #general

Ralph Baer
 

My great aunt (mother's mother's sister) was born in Germany and lived in Kew Gardens. Members of her husband's family, also Jews from Germany, lived nearby as did a lot of friends. My paternal grandparents, as I mentioned on another thread, were in Jackson Heights.
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Ralph N. Baer        RalphNBaer@...       Washington, DC


Re: How Weird Are We? #general

Namrita Chow
 

Yes this is a regular occurrence.... my Grandfather’s Grandfather was one of ten and so the family (originally Pick) that I am researching is big but even with solid DNA links some people don’t want to check their distant relatives while others are really excited to do so. So it all depends who the receiver of the email is! If you hit someone with a similar passion and interest its superb as if brings the past to life, and links those of us alive to eachother in a very rewarding way. 

All the best in your searches. 
Namrita Chow


Online auctions of misappropriated records #records

Kenneth Ryesky
 

Interesting Times of Israel blogpost; relatively long read but worthwhile:

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/one-mans-lead-on-a-fight-to-save-jewish-history/

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Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@... 

Researching:
RAISKY/REISKY, ARONOV, SHKOLNIK(OV), AEROV; Gomel, Belarus
GERTZIG, BRODSKY; Yelizavetgrad, Ukraine
BRODSKY, VASILESKY; Odessa, Ukraine
IZRAELSON, ARSHENOV; Yevpatoriya, Ukraine (Crimea)


Source documents behind Revision Lists? #belarus #records

Matthew Klionsky
 

 
 
 
Does anyone know if it is possible to view images of the original (cyrillic) czarist Revision Lists posted in translation/transliteration at JewishGen.org?  My particular interest now involves the Minsk 1850 list and Borisov lists from 1850, 1858 and 1874.  When I look at the household entries, some have an FHL microfilm access number, but most do not.  The others have a record locator of the form NHABMinsk/333/9/1089.  I know how to find the FHL microfilms, but can't figure out if it is also possible to access these NHABMinsk originals.
 
Matthew Klionsky
Chicago


Re: The German-Jewish community in Jackson Heights, New York #usa #germany #general

Rick Luftglass
 

The Queens Independent Society founded in Jackson Heights in 1919 originally was mostly German Jewish. It evolved into the Jewish Community Center of Jackson Heights. A little info here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/nyregion/thecity/21rabb.html

Rick Luftglass


Re: The German-Jewish community in Jackson Heights, New York #usa #germany #general

Harriet Mayer
 

There was a  large German-Jewish Community of refugees in Kew Gardens, which is near Jackson Heights. There were German style bakeries, restaurants and a hotel. There was a small Orthodox synagogue founded by the German immigrants. 

Harriet Mayer
New York NY
harriet_mayer@...


Re: Departure from Poland to France, for political reasons #poland

David Levine
 

Hi Virgine,

Lodz was a highly industrial city that was only built up starting in the 1820s. The city actively attracted workers from throughout the Russian Empire and Germany as well.
There was a revolution in Russia in 1905 after Russia list the Russo-Japanese war
It led to an opening in government and a parliament
Revolutionary activity - by socialists, communists, and others - surged. 
Jews were especially involved.
It could be that your ancestors were involved in this kind of activity in Lodz, organizing, planning.
They would have come under the suspicion of the Czar's police
Exile to Siberia was often the result
It is quite possible this is why they left for France, a common destination for refugee revolutionaries. 

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Best Regards,
David Levine
San Francisco, CA, USA
Researching: 
Weinstein -> Solotwina, Galicia | Frisch, Hilman, Jungerman, Schindler -> Rozniatow, Galicia | Golanski, Kramerofsky/Kromerovsky -> Kiev | Lefkowitz -> Petrikov, Belarus | Shub, Rosen Hlusk, Belarus | Levine, Weiner, Zamoshkin -> Slutsk, Belarus 


How Weird Are We? #general

krausj2@...
 

I’m curious to know other people’s experiences with reaching out to distant relatives about a family connection.

 

I have a tree that goes back to a married couple in the late 18th Century. They had roughly ten children, and most of those their children and grandchildren had large families, too. By the start of the 20th Century, that left 150-200 individuals, many of whom have 50+ descendants today. While it’s difficult to trace genealogy backwards in time, it’s comparatively easy to move forward, so I've made a lot of discoveries. For me – as I imagine for many of you here – it’s become a giant puzzle, and it feels like a breakthrough every time I can add someone else. I have a sense of large, unfolding story.

 

When I’m able to tell people about it, they seem generally to like discovering their part in that story. Some nod and say thanks, some ask questions, and a few want to join in the search. Few, if any, have suggested they aren’t interested at all.

 

When I reach out to complete strangers, though – sending an email that starts something like, “Hi, I’ve been working on a giant family tree, and I think you’re related to it through your great-great-grandmother,” I get surprisingly few responses.

 

I imagine that some of my no-replies are because of the wrong email address or a respondent who hasn’t checked the messages at Ancestry or MyHeritage since opening an account there. I imagine there are also some who don’t quite trust it, who figure it’s a scam of some sort. I worry there may be some who are offended, wondering, “Who is this stranger who claims to know things about my family that even I don’t know?”

 

I know I’m thrilled when someone reaches out, and I imagine most of you reading this are as well. My question, then, is exactly how weird are we? Do you get the sense that most people welcome this sort of a connection?

 

 

As a corollary to that, is it a good strategy to write to prospective relatives at multiple email addresses, or even to send a snail mail letter since it’s relatively easy to find home addresses? Or does that suggest a bit of the stalker?

--
Joe Kraus
krausj2@...


JGS of Pittsburgh presents Crista Cowan: "The Jewish Record Collection on Ancestry" #records #jgs-iajgs #announcements

Steve Jaron
 

Please join The Jewish Genealogy Society of Pittsburgh for our next program with Crista Cowan from Ancestry.com.
 
With more than 24 billion online records, Ancestry has a lot to offer Jewish family history researchers. Join Crista Cowan for a look at records in the United States, Canada, and England specific to Jewish immigrants, as well as tips for researching the millions of JewishGen records, Holocaust records, and other European records from the 18th and 19th century for those of Jewish descent. She’ll add a few tips for successful searching as well.  
 
Crista Cowan has been employed by Ancestry.com since 2004; her involvement in family history, however, reaches all the way back to childhood. From being parked under a microfilm reader at the Family History Library in her baby carrier to her current career as a professional genealogist, Crista has spent thousands of hours discovering, documenting and telling family stories.

In her time at Ancestry she has been a European Content Acquisition Manager, the Digital Preservation Indexing Manager and the Community Alliance Manager for the Ancestry World Archives Project. For the past several years she has been the Corporate Genealogist, with responsibilities for speaking and teaching at genealogy conferences around the world and helping with family history research for public relations stories. Known online as The Barefoot Genealogist with a weekly internet show designed to help people discover their family history.
 
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For further information please contact us via our website or our email

Thank You
Steven Jaron, President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Pittsburgh
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Re: Tomorrow - JewishGen Talks: Roots of Jews in Italy - Names and History #JewishGenUpdates

ROBERT MILLER
 

The old Italian (Roman) Jewish prayer rite is in this siddur.  Not Ashkenazic (but often similar) and not Sephardic.
 


Viewmate Translation Request - German #germany #translation

Adam Oppenheim
 

I've posted the following vital records in German for which I need a transcription of the handwritten script. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ...
 
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=91390
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=91389
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=91388
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=91387
 
Please respond via the form(s) provided on the respective ViewMate image pages.
 
These records pertain to either: (1) Meier Kahn and family, of Dudenhofen and connections to the Stern and Daub families of Nidda; or (2) the Dewald family of Woerrstadt, Mainz and Dolgesheim.
 
Thank you very much.
 
Adam H. Oppenheim
Takoma Park, Md


Holocaust Symbolism on Matzevot (Tombstones) #holocaust

Madeleine Isenberg
 

After years of looking at inscriptions and imagery on matzevot (tombstones) in photos around the world, I recently realized that I have overlooked an important and significant marking that has appeared, but not in every case.  I'm talking about those brave Holocaust survivors who made it to places around the world and were able to raise families and lead productive lives despite all that they suffered, even living to ripe old ages. 

When finding an indicator either by some symbolism or wording, it makes one feel a sense of pride and relief that these people defiantly strove to stay alive, despite Hitler's intent to destroy all Jews.

Another person who photographs tombstones in the USA, James Mason (Meeka90069@... ) who is not Jewish, and we have considered this might be an interesting research project to discover how and where such indications appear.
 
In the USA, quite often I have seen either engraved, or as an "add-on" to a matzeva, that looks mostly like this, although the lettering may vary:
 
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In Seattle, Washington, in a Sephardic cemetery I often found actual words engraved, such as "Holocaust Survivor."  This is important because too many of us think that the Holocaust was an Ashkenazi thing.

James contacted Nolan ALTMAN, who administers the JOWBR databases, and was in turn referred to Renee STEINIG of JGSLI.  Renee sent James the following information that I have abstracted, 

"... the one survivor symbol with which I'm familiar -- a metal grave marker... At one time, such markers could be purchased from the American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors. Now their web site says "out of stock" (https://amgathering.org/buy-markers/). ... According to a newspaper article published in 1986 ... Judy Freeman, the survivor who encouraged the Gathering to manufacture them, the design was first used in 1981, at a world gathering of survivors in Jerusalem. Mrs. Freeman did not know who designed the original image, which she said symbolized Judaism (the Star of David), imprisonment (the barbed wire), liberation (the break in the star), and new life (the branch)."I have also been unable to learn who designed it in the first place.

I still have been unable to discover the originator of that design.

Another possible image for which I have no confirmation of its relevance, is a sort of eternal flame.

And recently, I noticed on the matzeva of one of my Slovakian-born cousins who died and is buried in the Har Hamenuchot Cemetery, these beautiful words from Zecharia 3:2, 
אוד מוצל מאש , (a brand plucked from fire).

Almost an implicit indicator of a survivor, are those people who ensured that names of those who perished without a memorial were also to be remembered by creating a form of cenotaph, in adding the names of the unmarked to that of another relative or ancestor's grave who had died before the Holocaust and where such matzevot still exist somewhere.

So to those of you out there who prepared the matzevot for your survivors, or who have seen such, please send me photographs to this email: mrizbiz@..., telling me where they are to be found (cemetery name, city, country, etc.).

And if anyone knows who designed that specific barbed-wire Magen David, please enlighten us all!

Thanks in advance,

 

 

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Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@...
Beverly Hills, CA
 
Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various parts of Galicia, Poland
(Nowy Targ, Nowy Sanz, Wachsmund, Dembno, Lapuszna, Krakow, Ochotnica) who migrated into Kezmarok or
nearby towns in northern Slovakia and Czech Republic (i.e., those who lived/had businesses in Moravska Ostrava);
GOLDSTEIN in Sena or Szina, Szkaros and Kosice, Slovakia; Tolcsva and Tokaj, Hungary.


JGS Cleveland presents The View from Pittsburgh with Eric Lidji. #education #jgs-iajgs #events

deborahakatz@...
 

Join the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland (jgscleveland.org) for our next Zoom meeting and program on Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 7-8:30 pm EST:  The View from Pittsburgh with Eric Lidji.

 

Program description:  Although the cities of Pittsburgh and Cleveland are near one another, their Jewish communities developed in remarkably different ways, the result of topography, transportation routes, industry, and personalities. A look at the history of the Jewish population of Pittsburgh from its founding to its current history, with a few comparisons to Cleveland, can illuminate the experience of both communities.  Eric will discuss the history of Jewish archiving in Pittsburgh, including recent efforts to document the shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue on October 27, 2018 and the ongoing impact of the coronavirus pandemic on the Jewish community.

 

Speaker:  Eric Lidji is the director of the Rauh Jewish Archives at the Senator John Heinz History Center in Pittsburgh. The archive includes more than 1,000 collections documenting all aspects of Jewish life in Western Pennsylvania. He is the author of "The Seventeenth Generation: The Lifework of Rabbi Walter Jacob" and a co-editor of "Her Deeds Sing Her Praises: Profiles of Pittsburgh Jewish Women" and "Bound in the Bond of Life: Pittsburgh Writers Reflect on the Tree of Life Tragedy."

 

Registration is required and free.  Send an email to rsvp@... with your name, email, and complete mail address by 12 Noon EST on March 10 to receive a Zoom link. 

Space is limited and priority will be given to JGS Cleveland members.

 

 

 

Contact: Deborah A. Katz, JD, PhD

Vice President, Programming

Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland
programming@...

jgscleveland.org


Re: Trying to Make Sense of a Jewish Welfare Board, War Correspondence Entry #records

Sherri Bobish
 


Eric,

Max ELLMAN's passenger manifest is indexed under the name Mordke HILLMAN.  You can see the manifest (both pages) on www.familysearch.org
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TD-PSLC-Q?i=576&cc=1368704&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJNRL-CQ3

The manifest has a surname crossed out (looks like "KELMAN"), and "HILLMAN" written in.  The manifest states he left behind his wife, name looks like Ruchel KELMAN.

Town of last permanent residence and place of birth looks like Tarorovick (sp??) 

He is going to his brother-in-law Spiegel or Siegel in Chicago.

Max's nat papers give his place of birth as Zinkow (Zin'kiv [Ukr]), not Minkovitz (Myn'kivtsi [Ukr]), although these two towns are only 16 miles apart.
 
I found this on Saratov, where his supposed child lived"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saratov
"During January 1915, with World War I dominating the Russian national agenda, Saratov became the destination for deportation convoys of ethnic Germans, Jews, Hungarians, Austrians and Slavs whose presence closer to the western front was perceived as a potential security risk to the state."

Have you found Max's wife's passenger manifest?  That should contain some clues for you.  Perhaps she left behind a child?  Perhaps the child and the grandmother were evacuated to Saratov during WW1?

Hope this helps,

Sherri Bobish

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