Looking for information on Klara Ornstein of Lvov- Born 1886 #ukraine #galicia


I was advised  to contact Dr Rosenstein.
Can someone please advise how to do this?
Louis Mehr, Manchester, UK

February 2021 Summary of IAJGS Records Access Alert #general #jgs-iajgs #records

Jan Meisels Allen

As mentioned previously, every month I post a listing of the IAJGS Records Access Alert topics from the previous month for you to see the variety of issues…some were posted on this discussion group but most were not—all postings are included below.  The following are the summaries for the month of February, 2021.  In order not to miss out on important information it is worthwhile for you to be subscribed to the Records Access Alert.

Without records, genealogists cannot do genealogy –making certain that we retain access and gain access where it is impaired is every genealogists' responsibility.


  • 23and Me To Go Public Through Merger with Virgin Group Acquisition Firm   
  • Ancestry Announces New CEO Deborah Liu
  • Facebook Pays $650 Million USD To Settle Privacy Lawsuit
  • MyHeritage To be Acquired by Francisco Partners
  • WhatsApp to Stop Readers or Sending Messages if New Privacy rules are Rejected


  • (Australia)  Facebook and Australia Make an Agreement
  • (Australia)  Google Opens Paid-For Australia News Platform
  • (Australia)  Google Opens Paid-For Australia News Platform
  • (Australia)  Australia Passes Law requiring Facebook and Google to Pay Link Taxes
  • (Australia) Update on Facebook and Google and the Link Tax
  • (Brazil) Brazil's Supreme Federal Court Will Not Adopt the Right to be Forgotten
  • (Denmark) Legislation will Require Facebook and Google to Pay for Media Content (Link Tax)
  • (European Union) EU Ambassadors Reach Compromise on e-Privacy Reform
  • (European Union) Competition Commissioner Vestager Warns of Potential Antitrust Action if Tech Giants Threaten to Pull Out
  • (European Union) Two Start-Up Internet Search Engines Receive Funding
  • Identity Theft Resource Center Says Identity Thieves Raked in Billions With Your Data
  • (Ireland) Additional Year of B,M.D Civil Registrations Added to Irish Genealogy Website
  • (Poland) Cracow City Archives On Fire
  • (Poland) Poland Proposes Social Media "Free Speech" Law


  • (US) American Community Survey  Federal Register Notice
  • (US) Bill Introduced to Reform Section 230 and Allow Social Media Companies Accountable
  • (US- Census Bureau Announces it Will Deliver Redistricting Date to All States by September 30, 2021
  • (US) The Department of Justice Drops Challenge to California's State Net Neutrality Law
  • (US) LA Times Op Ed Newspapers Shouldn't Delete Old Crime Stories
  • (US) National Archives Proposed Rule on Collecting Information on Those Requesting Military Records
  • (US) Senator Klobuchar Introduces Antitrust Legislation
  • (US) More About USCIS Fees On Hold More
  • (US-MD) Maryland Lawmakers Override Governor's Veto on Digital Advertising tax
  • US-MD) Tech Industry Challenges Maryland Law Taxing Internet
  • (US-FL) Florida Bills Address Collecting DNA From Someone Else's Websites as Theft
  • (US-GA) HB 92 Vital Records Transfer and Embargo Dates
  • (US-MA)  Bill Permitting Familial DNA Searching in Investigating Unsolved Crimes
  • (US-ME)  Vital Records Legislation Introduced
  • (US-NJ) State Appeals Court Rules that Murder Suspect  Be Given DNA Source Codes
  • (US-NY)  It's Your Data Act Reintroduced in New Legislative Session
  • (US-Oregon) Delays in 2020 Census Leaves Oregon Redistricting in a Lurch
  • (US-OK) Oklahoma Data Privacy Act Introduced; Data Transparency Legislation
  • (US-SD) First Vital Records and Health Statistics Unit to Receive National Accreditation
  • (US-VA) Consumer Protection Act Awaiting Governor's Signature
  • US-WA) Federal Judge Blocks Sale of Seattle's National Archives Facility
  • (US-WA) Second Substitute Bill for SB 502


The IAJGS Board of Directors approved opening the Records Access Alert to anyone who is interested in records access. This was announced previously.  We now have subscribers from many genealogical organizations not

previously able to subscribe. To be on top of what is happening I encourage you to register for the Records Access Alerts to receive the information in a timely manner.  If you are interested in any of the above items, please

register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and look at them in the archives.  To register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert go to: and follow the instructions to enter

your email address, full name and which genealogical organization you belong to-a society, SIG  or a subscriber of JewishGen, AVOTAYNU, Legal Genealogist  etc. You will receive an email response that you have to reply to,

or the subscription will not be finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the archives at:


The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and other times there may be several in one day.


These are listed alphabetically not chronologically.  Each month the locales covered differ.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee




Photo Munis, wife & daughter-What happened to Monus' family?.png uploaded Notification <noreply@...>

The following photos have been uploaded to the Mystery Photos Waiting for Detectives album of the main@... group.

By: sherryemeyer@...

View mate translation: Yiddish Yizkor page #translation

Courtney Klein

I have posted page XIV from book one of the Slonim Yizkor Book collection. It is supposed to be about one of my cousins Baruch Yakimovsky. Any help in translating it is greatly appreciated. 
Courtney Klein

ViewMate Translation request - Russian #translation

Avi Bitron

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I would appreciate help in translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
These are texts from the mid 19th century involving marriage and birth records.
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Avi Chari

Re: Translation from Hungarian to English #translation


kézimunka után él = lives by needlework

Tomas Kertész
Stockholm, Sweden

Re: How Weird Are We? #general


Well the incidence of paternity fraud (father is not aware he is not the father) is probably about 1% in the general population, and probably another 1% where the parents know the father is not the father, but the kids never do. And over 4 generations the numbers mount. 

So DNA is not "irrefutable" for this and for many other reasons, depending on the meaning of great grandmother. And this is one of the many reasons not to think embarking on handing over DNA testing is a trivial matter either - for the hander-over or for others. And such "reaching out" can cause havoc in lives. 

I'm someone who has no interest whatsoever in my estimated 130,000 7th cousins

Dr Aubrey Blumsohn
Sheffield, UK

Sender Levin injured in the Russo-Japanese war #russia


My grandfather Sender Levin, from Vinnitsa, took a bullet in his leg during this war.  He eventually had an amputation as a result 30 years later.  Is any information about wounded soldiers available online - preferably in English
Gary E. Levin

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Added album Mystery Photos Waiting for Detectives Notification <noreply@...>

sherryemeyer@... added the album Mystery Photos Waiting for Detectives: This is a group for those searching to name either the place of a photo or some family members who have been lost to family memory. Please make known what one knows of the family photo including such details as the following: possible given names and surnames, place taken and place of origin of those in the photo.

Re: How Weird Are We? #general


I'm a journalist and routinely make cold calls to total strangers. Family history inquiries aren't any different. Make the contact. If people don't respond, don't take it personally. 
I've had several non-responses and a couple that were very productive. In one case, they even remembered my father.
But let me tell you about barking up the wrong family tree. I contacted two brothers, believing we were related. One didn't respond, and the other did and was quite gracious. Comparing notes, we found that information didn't match up. I discovered there were three Harry Thomashefskys in NYC, and I was chasing the wrong Harry. I apologized for wasting his time, and he was again very nice about it. I also sent him the history I had written of his grandfather's actions in WWI. I had to delete all the material on the wrong Harry and didn't want it to go to waste. The friendly brother was again gracious and appreciated the information.
So we're all trying to learn, but I find the adventures along the way add to the experience.
Sherry Robinson
Zimmer, Kamiel, Thomashefsky

Friedman in Courland 1825 - 1875 #courland

Judith F. Russell

Our informal Friedman family records indicate Courland roots for the
family before they moved to Pasvalys, Lithuania.  One of the children
named her birthplace as "Riga, the port of Courland."  Another named
Kurland as his birthplace on his USA WWII draft registration.  The
youngest child, Hyman, was born in Pasvalys in 1876, but his older
brother born in 1875 named Kurland as his birthplace, so it seems that
the timeframe of 1875-1876 places the move to Lithuania.

The family went by the surname Abramovitz during their time in
Pasvalys, but used the name Friedman upon their emigration in mid
1880s to Western Pennsylvania, USA.

In Courland, the Friedman family should have been as listed below, but
no Latvian records for the family have been found at JewishGen or's Jewish Databases.   I would be very happy to answer
questions about the family or to hear any thoughts or suggestions
about further research.

Judith Friedman Russell
Brookhaven, Georgia, USA

Father:  Moses Shuml Friedman
First wife, unknown
Second wife, Mere Gita Caesarsky/Tsarsky of Panevezys

Descendants of Moshe Shuml Friedman/Abramovitz

    1      Moshe Shuml Friedman/Abramovitz    b: Abt. 1830 in Kurland,
Latvia /Ponevez, Lithuania            d: 29 Oct 1914 in Pittsburgh PA.
..        +?Sora Pesa
.    2      Chava Stera Friedman
.....        +Yudelovitz
        *2nd Wife of Moshe Shuml Friedman/Abramovitz:
..        +Miriam-Gittel/Margaret Kayserling/Czarsky    b: Abt. 1830
in Ponevez, Lithuania    Father: Aizky
Keyserling/Czarsky/Kayserling/chesarski            m: Abt. 1850
.    2      Minka/Michla/Mina Friedman    b: in Ponevez, Lithuania
.....        +Iokel Milner
.    2      Shalom Friedman    b: in Kurland/Ponevez, Lithuania
.    2      Simca Friedman    b: in Kurland/Ponevez, Lithuania
.    2      Gershon Friedman    b: Apr 1853 in Kurland/Ponevez,
Lithuania            d: 14 Jan 1937 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny,
.....        +Libby Frankenstein    b: 1856 in Verzhbelov,
Vilkaviskis, Lithuania    Father: Aaron Frankenstein    Mother: Etta
Adas    d: 28 Jan 1929 in Pittsburgh, Beacon Street    m: Nov 1878
.    2      ?Saul H. Friedman    b: Feb 1856 in Kurland/Ponevez,
.....        +Fannie Feige Romano    b: Apr 1857            d: 21 Sep
1945 in Baltimore, MD
.    2      Rebecca Friedman    b: 29 Mar 1863 in Riga, Latvia
   d: 07 Feb 1945 in Pittsburgh PA
.....        +Samuel Ruben "T.K." Epstein    b: 17 Jan 1867 in
Neishtat Shervint, Suwalki Gubernia, Russia    Father: Emanuel Epstein
   Mother: Ida Frankenstein    d: 02 Aug 1931 in Pittsburgh PA    m:
01 Mar 1889 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny, PA
.    2      Jacob Morris Friedman    b: 15 Apr 1863 in
Kurland/Ponevez, Lithuania            d: 18 Jun 1923 in New
Kensington, Westmoreland, PA
.....        +Sadye Cohen    b: 05 Jul 1876 in Sharon, PA    Father:
Aaron/Abraham Cohen    Mother: Mildred ???    d: 30 Apr 1934 in New
Kensington, Westmoreland, PA    m: 04 Oct 1895
.    2      Samuel "Sheffield" Friedman    b: Mar 1868 in
Kurland/Ponevez, Lithuania            d: 15 Mar 1902 in Chicago, Cook,
.....        +Lena Harris    b: Jul 1873    Father: Moses M. Harris
Mother: Sarah    d: 1948    m: 21 Feb 1892 in Chicago, IL
.    2      Albert Louis Freedman    b: 09 Jan 1872 in
Kurland/Ponevez, Lithuania            d: 14 Nov 1926 in Washington, DC
.....        +Jennie Felsher    b: Abt. 1880 in Russia    Father:
Jacob Felser    Mother: Ethel Goffanovitch    d: 25 Jul 1951 in
Washington, DC.
.    2      Solomon/Schlioma Friedman    b: 08 Sep 1875 in Kurland,
Latvia/Ponevez, Lithuania            d: 26 Dec 1949 in Pittsburgh, Pa
.....        +Etta Levy    b: 28 Feb 1883 in Pittsburgh PA    Father:
Louis "Reb Arye Leyb" Levy    Mother: Rachael Barton/Barpuitz    d: 01
Feb 1959 in Pittsburgh, Pa    m: 11 Nov 1911 in Greensburg,
Westmoreland, PA
.    2      Hyman Friedman    b: 22 Oct 1876 in Pasvalys, Lithuania
        d: 13 Aug 1933 in Pittsburgh PA
.....        +Sophia Lomask    b: 25 Dec 1879 in Russia    Father:
Morris Lomask    Mother: Leah Maritsky    d: 07 Aug 1954 in Pittsburgh
PA    m: 28 Jun 1898 in Allegheny, PA, USA

How Weird Are We #general


In response to Karen Weinstock Gwynn's comment:
I think there's a basic difference between a researcher who doesn't respond at all to a contact from another researcher and one who allows a correspondence to end once (s)he has accomplished whatever (s)he wanted from the contact.  Persisting with someone beyond their interest should be expected to lead to a lack of response.
Yale Zussman

Henia (Greenberg) BER Montreal Quebec Canada/Seeking Obituary or Record of Death #romania #records #canada


Hi All
I am seeking any and all information on Henia BER. Her maiden name is Greenberg. I am trying to confirm her connection as a sister to my great grandfather Abraham Adolph Greenberg. The only proof I have is her death date of 9/12/1973 from tombstone photo on jewishgen. Henia died in Montreal Québec Canada. Henia was born about 1875 in dorohoi hertza Romania. I would appreciate any help with an obituary or copy of death record. Not sure if she became a Canadian citizen. Her son Dughi now passed also lived in Canada and phoenix Arizona where he died. I tried to make contact with descendants but no luck. Thanks for any and all help.
Sarah Greenberg (USA-CT)
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Re: How Weird Are We? #general

Carol Sage-Silverstein

I reached out to one person with a strong DNA connection (both CentiMorgans and longest block)  who doesn't seem interested in connecting.  For some reason he has his great grandmother's maiden name as different than me (I have documentation however).  The DNA is irrefutable yet he still won't believe it.  Go figure

Re: Help with Amsterdam marriage records 1796/5556 #general


Hi Yoav, 

I briefly looked at this collection of scanned documents. In  their title is says Tnaim Rishonim meaning it is financial agreement between both families at the engagement party. In most Jewish communities this would happen some time before the actual wedding. 
From this, I believe that you should change the time bracket of your search for a pertinent document.

Best regards, 
Laurent Kassel 
Moreshet, Israel 

Webinar this Sunday: Women of Sefarad #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll

JewishGen is proud to invite you to attend a special presentation, in partnership with the Jewish Heritage Alliance:
Women of Sefarad
Speaker: Prof. Renée Levine Melammed
Sunday, March 7, 2021
2:00 pm Eastern Time (New York)
About the Talk
Jewish Heritage Alliance, in cooperation with our distinguished global partners, invite you to participate in a multi-part educational webinar series celebrating the courage and determination of the Women of Sefarad. The forced conversions of the Jews in Spain changed the face of Spanish Jewry. The dismantling of Jewish institutions by the Inquisition rendered the home as the gatekeeper of Jewish traditions. The role of the woman as wife and in charge of children and household, made her the transmitter of family traditions and culture.
We are honored to have Prof. Renée Levine Melammed as Guest Speaker for our launch event on March 7, 2021. Widely considered the leading academic authority on this subject, her presentation will focus on the challenges faced by the conversos (Jews or their descendants who were baptized between 1391 and 1492) who opted to continue observing Jewish practices in secret. An emphasis will be placed on the role of the Spanish Inquisition established in 1478, as well as on the changes that occurred following the expulsion of the Jews in 1492.

Re: How Weird Are We? #general

Karen Gwynn

I've been reading the responses to Joe's post and find them very interesting. I'd like to offer an observation from "the other side."

I've been research my family on and off for over 30 years (yikes!). There are times I am deeply into the hunt and spend hours and hours on nothing except genealogy. Then I have down times, where I lurk on message boards but not much else.

In my own research, I have very specific goals: I am interested mainly in direct line ancestry and branches that do not go too deep. So, I while I have information on my grandparent's siblings I have even less on their descendants. That is a choice I made long ago and feel that I have plenty of work to do to keep me busy. Given those parameters, if a 3rd or 4th cousin from one of these distant branches were to contact me, I would respond with whatever I might or might not know about how we are related, but I am not apt to engage beyond the initial back and forth emails to understand our potential connection. I understand that searching a learning about far distant relatives, while interesting and can, I know, lead to discoveries about "closer" relations, that is not my primary interest.

Another example. I have a distant connection to a gentleman who is related to some of my second cousins not by our shared ancestor, but though theirs. In speaking with this individual several months ago, I was kind of interested in trying to prove our relationship (he actually has two connections to my tree: one possibly to my 2nd great grandfather, the other is through marriage to a branch from a different great grandfather -- that is the branch I am not researching). So, I setup a "research tree" in Ancestry with just enough names, etc. to start searching for hints and documents to prove this connection and I shared this tree with this "cousin." While he did give me good information, he also keeps telling me about relatives that are beyond the scope of my research (spouses, their parents and their children and children's spouses, etc.). I listen to/read his feedback and thank him for the information, and leave it at that.

I am offering this to this thread only to shed some light on why you may not hear back from your supposed 3rd cousin twice removed. They may be wonderful people who are dedicated to their research. However, their research goals and interests may not (currently) intersect with yours.

So, please write to everyone you want to connect with. Take the wonderful advise given here about how to craft your emails. Just be aware that if you are casting a wide net, you may reach folks who do not share your research interests even if you do share some distant ancestor.
Karen Weinstock Gwynn


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