Re: Olitsky vs Oblitsky - is this my great grandfather on ship list? #names #records

Michele Lock

Thanks for all the feedback.

I hadn't thought to look and see if Harry Olitsky actually used his passport to travel to Europe, and then back to the US, so I didn't know that he traveled on the SS Kaiser Wilhelm in 1908. He must have already booked his passage prior to applying for the passport. I had previously checked out this ship before, and found on SteveMorse that it never sailed out of Hamburg, but only out of Bremen. 

Someone privately wrote me that they found a B. Olitz living in Philadelphia in the early 1900s, so that may possibly be the brother of Harry Olitsky, so I'll follow up on that.

As for the surname Ulitsky vs. Olitsky - I have seen the spelling Ulitsky used, and I believe on Jewishgen it comes up when you enter the 'Sounds Like' search option for Olitsky. In US records, I have seen the same family with the spellings Olitsky, Ulitsky, Eletsky, Olatsky, and others. Of course, these early immigrants were having their names written down by others, and they would not have known how often different spellings were being used. Interestingly, my great grandfather only used Olitsky or Olitzky. 

The surname means from Olita (now Alytus, Lithuania). 
Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lewin/Levin in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus

Re: Research Jewish Genealogical Resources on the Internet with Daniel Horowitz #events #announcements

David Levine

Here, I fixed it:
Best Regards,
David Levine
San Francisco, CA, USA
Weinstein -> Solotwina, Galicia | Frisch, Hilman, Jungerman, Schindler -> Rozniatow, Galicia | Golanski, Kramerofsky/Kromerovsky -> Kiev | Lefkowitz -> Petrikov, Belarus | Shub, Rosen Hlusk, Belarus | Levine, Weiner, Zamoshkin -> Slutsk, Belarus 

Re: Research Jewish Genealogical Resources on the Internet with Daniel Horowitz #events #announcements

Darlene Glenn

The link works but you have to copy and paste the whole thing.

It does not work if you just "copy link" but it does work if you "copy" and then paste.

Darlene Glenn

Zoom Meeting: Finding Your Ancestors: How to Get Started and Where to Go #jgs-iajgs #events #announcements

Marilyn Golden

The Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.


PLEASE JOIN US!  Everyone is invited to attend!

We are very excited to host a special speaker this month! 

Time: Mar 7, 2021 01:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) (1-1:30  Check in)

The program will start promptly at 1:30 PM EST 


Guest Speaker:  Joel Spector

Topic: Finding Your Ancestors: How to Get Started and Where to Go

Joel is a Past President of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia, where he has also been chairperson of its Russian Special Interest Group. Joel has given presentations and workshops on the Russian language, both contemporary and pre-Revolutionary, and has provided translations of documents to individuals and groups. Currently Joel is a member of the Ukraine Research Group and serves as its Director of Metric Record Projects. Joel has been actively engaged in genealogy for over 30 years and has been conducting research in several historic Russian language encyclopedias. He has produced a unique English language Index to the Russian language Evreiskaya Entsiklopedia.


 The presentation will focus on how to find information about your ancestors, both those you know and those you didn’t even know you had. We will explore what data is immediately available and review what information can be derived from the many types of resources - local, national, and international - and from on-line resources. Throughout, we will focus on the excitement in discovering information about your little-known ancestors and on the various types of information that make the search in Jewish genealogy fun.

All guests will enter the waiting room muted. We will unmute during the chat. 

At 1:30 everyone will be muted and asked to turn off their videos. There will be a monitored Q and A after the presentation.  A handout from Joel will be provided.


This meeting is free and open to the public. Contact mazergolden@... to request a link.  We have a terrific Beginner's Guide and other information helpful for genealogical research on our website. Check us out on Facebook too!  The link will be posted at noon on our website on Sunday.


We look forward to 'seeing' you on Sunday! 

Marilyn Golden VP

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Re: How Weird Are We? #general

Marjorie Geiser

This has been a great thread to follow!

I can't help but wonder how I would have responded if someone had called me, out of the blue, before I was into genealogy, to say they were a cousin of mine I had never heard of. It's an entirely different mindset, I imagine. Today I have to censor myself, because I could talk about genealogy all day! LOL: I can tell when I've gone on too long when my friends get quiet...

Yet; if you ARE on Ancestry, or have put your DNA on other sites, I would THINK that meant you were looking for DNA matches. I have no desire to become best friends with strangers. My entire goal for finding cousins is to find more information on my families. And PHOTOS! I so badly want photos, especially of my Levine family, which has been my biggest challenge.

While researching my Levine grandfather's family, when I realized one DNA match was VERY close, I was THRILLED! On Ancestry, you can see roughly when people were last on there. Since she was on there quite often at the time, I thought for sure she would respond. But she didn't. And I was careful about how I put that first message, based on so many tips on the topic, and was careful with the second, and third..etc. Then I did some research on her, and it appears she's quite involved in media production, so perhaps she's well-known... to some. After my FIFTH (yeah) message, I said I wouldn't contact her again. Honestly, it was starting to feel creepy, even to me. But honestly, I've just wanted photos.

I've only been searching my family roots for a couple years, now, but probably have experienced almost everything others have mentioned; Talked with one cousin who had been adopted. Found cousins from just trees, found cousins from DNA. Have met a couple tree-found cousins in person. Talked to several others. Had two really gracious people, who had done years of research, send me what they had on my family, which opened up HUGE finds! And I've worked with others, which is more helpful than anyone can imagine.

Thanks to my 'genealogy buddies,' I found one living Levine relative. I did call him out of the blue. We actually had a nice conversation, and he sent me a couple photos. But he's still working, and although he said he'd have his daughter dig out the family photos, I don't hear from him unless I contact him, which I try to not do often. I'm sure he's still trying to figure me out.

I feel that, one day, that Levine relative I talked to will want more information. And, perhaps that will happen with the lady who doesn't respond. And others. Or not. But all I can do is my own research and celebrate the finds I uncover. From time to time I'll reach out to someone who can answer a mystery for me. But if they answer, I consider that a nice surprise.

The fun of the exploration, and the thrill of new findings make it all worth it. And, what I put together for my kids and grandkids will help remove all those historical family mysteries, which, in some cases, will just be harder to find in years to come.

Margie Geiser


Re: Hebrew Translation #translation


Good morning,


The top tombstone-

Here lies or here is buried (abbreviation on top)

Man his soul adhered to G _ d

His days of life were 61 years

Naftali son of Shlomo

Passed 24 Av 5610

May his soul be gathered in eternal life (last line abbreviation)

The bottom tombstone –

Dear and important woman

G – d fearing and pure of heart

Desired soul will sleep well

Hinda daughter of Avraham

Passed 22 Tamuz 5661

Same abbreviations on top and bottom as on the top tombstone.

Shalom, Malka Chosnek


Translation please, Kurrent German script #translation #romania

Aline Petzold

Hello All:
II have another entry from my grandmother, Pearl Wigderovici's, school workbook that  I'd love to have translated. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
Thanks for your help.
Aline Petzold
St. Paul MN

Shames family in Argentina #ukraine

Graham Michaels

Looking for SHAMES family from Kremenets or Vyshgorodok, Ukraine, Mickel Shames born 1875 married Rejzla Bela Press born 1879 from Vyshgorodok, moving to Argentina and possibly known as Shoshana. Two children: Freyde and Sosa. Brother and nephew were in contact up to 1960's who lived in Atlantic City New Jersey.
Many Thanks,
Gershon Michaels


Re: How Weird Are We? #general


"Muggles" is brilliant!  We have needed a word for them all this time and you have found one!

Robert Roth
Kingston NY

Re: Research Jewish Genealogical Resources on the Internet with Daniel Horowitz #events #announcements


Link does not work.  Please repost
Robin August

Re: Philadelphia marriage licenses #records


Good day, Dan Martin here
I reply private to avoid unneeded extraneous interlopers.

Through the familysearch/ancestry standard search you will have the year of marriage and license number.

If the license itself is not on the "Records" tab, select the tab below "Image"

Insert "Philadelphia, PA, USA" in the "Place" location and then "Show More Search Options"
Insert the year in the "Date" location and then click on the year as shown by
Under the pull down menu select "Marriage".

Several types of records will come up, Marriage Indexes, Marriage License Indexes, Marriage Records Indexes and Marriage Records.
It is the Marriage Records you want.  Figure about 30 files in total.  They usually have about 1000-2000 images per file.

Since I have done it many times, I usually select the first four marriage records to open. 
If the first few pages have a scanning record, the first license number will be identified in the record.  If not look at the first few records and the returned clergy form has the license number stamped.  The licenses are filed in sequential numbers.  There are about 250-500 marriages per file.
If your number is close, look at the last license in the file to see if it would be in the file.
If not, go to the next file you have opened.  If the record you seek is not in the first four files, close them and open next four "Marriage Record".  Please note that they are not in sequential order.

Rinse and repeat.

Upon finding, download each page as a jpg image to your computer. 

Once you remember how to do it, It takes about 5 minutes to obtain the records.  For something that it not easily available anywhere else, well worth it.

Wishing you peace and safety
Dan Martin
Delanco, NJ

Translation #germany #translation


Would anyone be able to translate the attached document?
Deborah Ross

Hebrew Translation #translation


I would appreciate if someone could translate the Hebrew on the attached headstones

Deborah Ross

Re: Philadelphia marriage licenses #records


Since you did not mention what year you want to see, I am giving you all the links that I know of for Philadelphia marriage records on familysearch.

Marlise Gross
Cherry Hill, NJ

Re: ViewMate translation request - Polish #translation

David Jacobowitz

I request a translation of a second 4-page letter sent by Rena KREINIK to Stanislaw ZAMORSKI, who rescued her.  Letter of 1 Dec 1947

The story of her hiding and rescue is at:

The pages are on ViewMate at the following addresses:

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Thank you so much,

David Jacobowitz

PS: More about Rena at .


Re: Bohuss Neamta, Romania & Canada to US border crossing question #romania #canada #usa


We do have ALL civil records from BUHUSI 1865 thru 1915
Luc Radu
Great Neck NT

Re: Departure from Poland to France, for political reasons #poland


Hi Virginie,

On the data base there is an Isaac Wenglinski born 1887. This would put him at an age of 26 when he left for France. From research of my family about this time in Poland many young people of this age were fully active in political organisations particularly communist / socialist / zionist or any combination of these.

Searching a bit further there is a French Memorial of the Shoah website which has a tiny bit more information but the most significant bit is his place of birth ... Piotrkow,


and you can see his parent's names. On this page is a box on the right where you can contact them for further information.

There is also a Hinde Wenglinski same year of birth . His wife ?

With the parents name of both it may be possible to research the family further

Sadly as you can see both were sent to Auschwitz on Convoy 57 which would have been on July 18 1943.





PS .... a long shot, but it has worked for me in the past and that is to do a google search for " Wenglinski France  / francais"or any combination with other French words and you may come up with a descendant and then try to make contact. I found a lost family section in France this way. e.g. Try  Sandrine Wenglenski  here

you never know ...

Jeff Kutcher
Family Research:
Kutscher - Jaroslaw 
Zmidek - Chmielnik, Warsaw 
Litman - Lodz
Szklarek -Gombin

Re: Departure from Poland to France, for political reasons #poland

wenglenski virginie

Thank you David for these explanations. Do you think there are records in Poland about these revolutionaries? Police files?

Best Regards,
Virginie Wenglenski

Re: Bohuss Neamta, Romania & Canada to US border crossing question #romania #canada #usa

Joel Ives

My MENDEL grandmother and many others in my family were born and/or died in Buhusi, Romania  Vital records still exist however, you need to hire a Romanian researcher in order to access the files. My grandmother Fanny (Freida Sura Mendel) was born there is 1881. Following is the translation from Romanian of my grandmother's birth record. It clearly matches your reference for "Bohuss" (actually Buhusi.) . You should be able to obtain a copy of your great-aunt's birth record and other vital records for those in your family who lived there in the 1800's.


BIRTH CERTIFICATE No 44 delivered on (Wednesday) June 30, 1881, 3 P.M.


Birth certificate of FREIDA - SURA, female, born yesterday in Buhusi, in her parents' house situated on the street going to Bacau, daughter of IOSUB MENDEL CROITORU (the tailor), 48 years old, and VICHE (read like Vicke) MENDEL, 40 years old, both tailors, living in Buhusi.

The father who presented the child to us declared the birth.

Witnesses: Avram Goldstein, 25 years old, tailor and Itzic Croitoru, 50 years old, tailor, both of them friends with the child's parents and living in Buhusi.

The witnesses signed this certificate together with the father of the child and us. 

Acknowledged according to the legal procedures by us, Nicu Toderascu, the Mayor of Buhusi, Bistritza Department, Neamtz District, and Civil Estate Officer also.

Signatures: father, witnesses, Civil Estate Officer
Joel Ives
Fair Lawn, New Jersey USA


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