Re: DNA Matches - Most CentiMorgans or Largest Segment? #dna #education #poland #ukraine #galicia

Dahn Cukier

There are a number of missing tools at Ancestry, but I'd like to be able
to get a spreadsheet file of DNA matches. I would then be able to
compare the 50k 4th and closer relatives of the 9 accounts I have management
ability and would be able to request from other, known relatives, but
not close socially, to send me their matches.

Dahn Cukier

>The large Ancestry database has provide me with the most matches, but it would be much more helpful if they >had a chromosome browser so I could see exactly what the match was and compare it to others. As noted, >they are far behind in this regard,
>David Sanger

When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Friday, March 5, 2021, 8:24:19 AM GMT+2, David Sanger <ds@...> wrote:

The large Ancestry database has provide me with the most matches, but it would be much more helpful if they had a chromosome browser so I could see exactly what the match was and compare it to others. As noted, they are far behind in this regard,

David Sanger


SCHLANGER, BRAND from Jezowe,  Kolbuszowa, Sokołów Małopolski 


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Yizkor Book Report for February 2021 #yizkorbooks #JewishGenUpdates




Although February is the shortest month, I think you’ll see that we were not short of activity over the last month. Many projects made great progress, coming that much closer to being fully completed.


Over the past few weeks, we were contacted by quite a few people interested in setting up a Translation Fund for the community book of their ancestors. The translation of complete Yizkor books does take time and, unavoidably, plenty of financial support but starting up these projects with great enthusiasm and dedication does yield results. If you, yourself, are interested in learning what is involved in starting up a translations project, please feel free to contact me.


The Yizkor books contain histories and stories about the communities and often particular names of people are mentioned. We need to remember, however, that the books were prepared by the Holocaust survivors who didn’t always remember every person who lived in the community. This is true, in particular, in regards to the necrology lists that were compiled by the survivors. Although these lists contain an unfathomable number of names of people killed in the Holocaust, because the compilation does rely on memories and not official registries, not all those who were lost appear in them. This is just a clarification for people who are looking for their family names but don’t find them in the necrology or in any section of the Yizkor book of their family’s community. For many others, the Yizkor books do provide a great deal of enlightening material on their families,

Finally, although I didn’t have a chance to wish you all a Purim Sameach and/or a Happy Purim,  I would now like to wish you and your families, albeit slightly  early, a Pesach Sameach and/ or a Happy Passover.


And now for details of what was carried out in February:

Yizkor Book updates

This month, 32 existing projects were updated and they were:

·  Bar, Ukraine (Town of Bar: Jewish Pages Through The Prism Of Time)

·  Biała Podlaska, Poland (Book of Biala Podlaska)

·  Braslaw, Belarus (Darkness and desolation)

·  Chelm, Poland (Commemoration book Chelm)

·  Dzyatlava, Belarus (A memorial to the Jewish community of Zhetel)

·  Gabin, Poland (Gombin: The Life and Destruction of a Jewish Town in Poland)

·  Hrubieszow, Poland (Memorial Book of Hrubieshov)

·  Hlybokaye, Belarus  (The Destruction of Globokie)

·  Jaroslaw, Poland (Jaroslaw Book: a Memorial to Our Town)

·  Kamyanyets, Belarus (Memorial Book of Kamenets Litovsk, Zastavye, and Colonies)

·  Kutno, Poland (Kutno and Surroundings Book)

·  Makow Mazowiecki, Poland (Memorial book of the community of Maków-Mazowiecki)

·  Mizoch, Ukraine (Memorial Book of Mizocz)

·  Novohrad-Volyns'kyy, Ukraine (Zvhil Novograd-Volynskiy)

·  Oleksandriya, Ukraine (Memorial book of the community of Aleksandria)

·  Ostrowiec Świętokrzyski, Poland (Ostrowiec; a monument on the ruins of an annihilated Jewish community)

·  Radom, Poland (The book of Radom)

·  Radomsko, Poland (Memorial book of the community of Radomsk and vicinity)

·  Rafalovka, Ukraine (Memorial book for the towns of Old Rafalowka, New Rafalowka, Olizarka, Zoludzk and vicinity)

·  Sarny, Ukraine (Memorial Book of the Community of Sarny)

·  Siedlce, Poland (Memorial book of the community of Siedlce)

·  Sokołów Podlaski, Poland (Memorial Book Sokolow-Podlask)

·  Szumsk, Ukraine (Szumsk, memorial book of the martyrs of Szumsk)

·  Tarnow, Poland (Tarnow; The Life and Destruction of a Jewish City)

·  Tuchin, Ukraine (Tuczin-Kripa, Wolyn; in Memory of the Jewish Community)

·  Ustilug, Ukraine (The growth and destruction of the community of Uscilug)

·  Valozhyn, Belarus (Wolozin; the book of the city and of the Etz Hayyim Yeshiva)

·  Vidzy, Belarus (Widze Memorial Book)

·  Wołomin, Poland (Volomin; a memorial to the Jewish community of Volomin)

·  Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland (Wysokie-Mazowieckie; Memorial Book)

·  Zelów, Poland (Memorial Book of the Community of Zelow)

·  Zolochiv, Ukraine   (The City of Zloczow)

New book

The following is a new complete book placed online during February.

New entries

The following are new entries placed online during February.


New Yizkor Book in Print

Each month, almost, new books “hit the shelves” through the driving force of the Yizkor Books in Print Project and, once again, I’m please to let you know of yet another book that was made available in February:

If you are interested in any of this book or any of the others that have been made available, please go t the YBIP main page using the link shown below. 

Important links

Before ending this report, here are some important links to note:

All the best,

Lance Ackerfeld

Director of Special Projects - Yizkor Books



Goldstein/Goldsteyn #germany #general

Chana Goldman

Looking for family members of Meir Goldstein  married to Edel Plaut 1800s Felsberg Germany.
Chana Goldman

Re: DNA Matches - Most CentiMorgans or Largest Segment? #dna #education #poland #ukraine #galicia

David Sanger

The large Ancestry database has provide me with the most matches, but it would be much more helpful if they had a chromosome browser so I could see exactly what the match was and compare it to others. As noted, they are far behind in this regard,

David Sanger


SCHLANGER, BRAND from Jezowe,  Kolbuszowa, Sokołów Małopolski 


david sanger, albany ca

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Subj: ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation


I've posted two pages (male and female) from the 1851 Revision List from the Letichev District (Ukraine) in Russian for which I would 
greatly appreciate a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following addresses ... Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much

Paul Moverman
Milford, NH USA

Suggestion for a Jewish name for Sevek #poland #names


I have a name of a relative from pre-war Poland: Sevek, last name may be Zekiel.  Any suggestions on what his Jewish/Yiddish name might have been. 

He was married to my aunt Hinda (Nina) Feld who was born in Dobrzyn nad Wisla.   He may have been a second husband, may have been many years her junior, and they may have lived in Dobzyn or vicinity.

I can't find any records for either of them. 

Appreciate any help 

Relly Coleman

UK-Northern Ireland 2021 Census Ignoring Minority Religions; Scotland 2022 Census and How to List Ethnicity as Jewish #unitedkingdom #general #records

Jan Meisels Allen



The 2021 Census Questionnaire  of Northern Ireland reportedly is ignoring minority religions such as Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, Pagan or Baha’i.  The questionnaire does include Roman Catholic, Presbyterian church of Ireland, Church of Ireland, Methodist Church of Ireland, Other and None.  This is in contrast to the Census 2021 Questionnaire of England, Wales and Scotland. Census day is March 21, 2021 and it is encouraged to be filled out online.  See:


You can click on the questionnaire for England and Wales at:


See question 16 on either England’s or Wales’ 2021 Questionnaire on religion which includes a group of minority religions, including Jewish.

Scotland has moved its census to 2022 due to the pandemic and has not yet posted the questionnaire. See:


Based on Scotland’s census 2021 equality impact assessment they made the following analysis about how people should list “Jewish” in other ethnic category. See:

And scroll down to: race, then scroll to Information on the Jewish Population.


To read more see:


To see the previous postings on the UK census go to the archives of the IAJGS Records Access Alert at: You must be registered to access the archives.  To register go to: and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical  organization with whom you are affiliated   You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee



Lithuanian Draft Avoidance Lists #russia #lithuania

Adam Turner

I'm curious if anyone knows the particularities of how lists of conscripts, and "men avoiding the draft", were created around WWI in the Russian Empire. I'm pretty confident that I've found family members of mine in the Panevezys District Draft Avoidance aka "Conscripts List did not go to Army" list in the LitvakSIG database: conscript Genekh Faivel KHATSKELEVICH, son of Abel, his parents Abel and Gitel, and his brothers Azriel and Shimen Khaim, listed in Krekenava in 1915. This is a very strong match for my great-grandmother's cousins Frank (Feivel), Arthur (Azriel), and Herman (Hebrew name unknown, but obviously Chaim is the most likely candidate), who changed their surname to STEIN in the US.  

The only point of hesitation I have on matching this list to my cousins is that the conscript, Genekh Faivel aka Frank Stein, had immigrated to the US in September 1913, and his older brother, Azriel aka Arthur, had likely immigrated to the US even earlier, in 1907 (I have the naturalization papers and their probable manifests). So I'm wondering about the specifics of how these lists were enumerated: were the authorities working off of some other lists of military-age men that had been created many years earlier, and is that why they were still listing men in them who had been gone from the country for years by 1915?

Adam Turner

Russian translation of documents from Lithuanian Archives #translation

Benjamin Baum

I’ve posted three nineteenth century Russian documents on ViewMate that I recently received from the Lithuanian Archives. They are from the 1834 Revision List and various tax/voter lists. I’m hoping someone can translate for me.
Thank you!
Ben Baum
Estonia: Ogus, Latt, Reisner
Hungary: Welkowitz, Adler, Auerbach, Ungar, Nussbaum, Kreindler
Latvia: Mandelkorn, Joselovitz, Reisner
Lithuania: Joselovitz, Ogus, Shternfeld, Sandler
Poland: Baum, Bajm, Tamhammer, Koprowski, Kamjanski, Herman, Frydman, Ziegel
Belarus: Gerstein, Shterman

Re: Help with Amsterdam marriage records 1796/5556 #general


Laurent Kassel: That is actually clear from the texts and the dates in the text.
Inside the text the date is given that the parties agreed to get married by. Near the bottom of the text it says the date the document was drawn up. It differs from one month to 2 years. As such, even if this family actually made this Tnaim Rishonim (not everyone did) and even if the earlier documents exist, it would be near impossible to know at which date to look.

N. Aronson
Manchester UK

IAJGS Call for Applications #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Deb Kroopkin

Call for Applications

Reminder: Deadline is March 12th

The Call for Applications from candidates interested in serving on the
IAJGS Board of Directors is now open. This year, as it is an
odd-numbered year and in accordance with our bylaws, we will elect
four Officers: President, Vice-President, Treasurer, and Secretary. In
addition, we are seeking two new Directors to fill the one year
remaining of a two-year term.

IAJGS Officer and Director candidates must be members in good standing
of at least one IAJGS member society at the time of their nomination
for election or appointment and must continuously maintain such
membership during their term of office. We are seeking candidates who
will contribute to advancing the Association in fulfilling its
objectives (listed below).

We invite all candidates who are interested in serving as an Officer
or Director on the IAJGS Board to submit a completed Board Application
Form online at

Information about the election and nomination process is at The deadline for receipt of Board Application
Forms by the Nominating Committee is March 12, 2021, 7:00 pm EDT.

The term of those Officers elected begins at the conclusion of the
Annual Meeting on August 4, 2021, and ends at the conclusion of the
Annual Meeting two years later. The Director positions will serve out
the one year remaining of the two-year term. Candidates should be
aware that serving on the board requires a commitment of time and
travel expenses.

Elections will be held through electronic voting procedures, which
will be completed by July 12, 2021.

Objectives of the IAJGS

The objectives of the Association shall be:

To collect, preserve, and disseminate knowledge and information with
reference to Jewish genealogy
To assist and promote the research of Jewish family history
To provide opportunities for the sharing of Jewish genealogical information
To aim toward the publication of worthy material in the field of
Jewish genealogy
To promote membership in member Jewish genealogical societies
To act as spokesperson for Jewish genealogical societies in areas of
mutual interest
To provide member societies with services to help them become more
effective organizations
To elevate Jewish Genealogy among Jewish people and in the academic community
To promote public access to genealogically relevant records
To foster creation of Jewish genealogical organizations in new
geographical areas

Debbie Kroopkin

2021 IAJGS Nominating Committee Chair


Re: How Weird Are We? #general

Michele Lock

Someone up above remarked on my comment about the downside of contacting relatives is to be the recipient of more family lore stories - 

Here's an example of a downside - I recently found an 88 year old first cousin to my late father; this man is my oldest living relative who still remembers details of his immigrant parents' lives. I absolutely treasure my conversations with him, and he's opened up a view of my Pennsylvania hometown in the 1930-40s that I didn't know much about.

But - along with these memories, he's related the story from his mother that her family from Gruzdziai Lithuania was descended from a long line of rabbis. I don't have the heart to tell him that I've found two Jewishgen tax records for his mother's father in Gruzdziai. One from 1892 saying he was a day laborer, then another from 1912 saying he had received 15 rubles in poor relief. In 1912, my relative's mother would have been about 10 years old, so I'm sure she was aware of her family's circumstances. 

On the other hand, there are more ordinary family stories I have received about immigrants, that I have been able to substantiate with Jewishgen records. One story was of my Shimon Lev/Simon Lavine great great grandfather running a small turpentine operation in Lida, which his relative Ephraim Lev took over. In the 1888 Revision list for Lida, it has Shimon Lev and family living in a tiny village outside of Lida called Iazovitsa (most likely Jantsevichi Belarus). This makes sense, since turpentine is made by distillation from pine tree wood, so it would have to be done out in the countryside. Then in a 1929 Lida business directory on Jewishgen, it shows a E. Lev selling greases and lubricants, which would be a byproduct of turpentine manufacture. I strongly suspect that E. Lev is Ephraim Lev, cousin to Shimon Lev.

I may be in the minority, but I am perfectly comfortable with my immigrant forebears being ordinary working class folks who did the best they could under difficult circumstances. I much prefer to find records that substantiate their ordinary lives, then bemoan the fact that I can't find any records about rabbis or Sephardic ancestors or the fabulously wealthy.

Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lewin/Levin in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus

Re: Olitsky vs Oblitsky - is this my great grandfather on ship list? #names #records

Michele Lock

Thanks for all the feedback.

I hadn't thought to look and see if Harry Olitsky actually used his passport to travel to Europe, and then back to the US, so I didn't know that he traveled on the SS Kaiser Wilhelm in 1908. He must have already booked his passage prior to applying for the passport. I had previously checked out this ship before, and found on SteveMorse that it never sailed out of Hamburg, but only out of Bremen. 

Someone privately wrote me that they found a B. Olitz living in Philadelphia in the early 1900s, so that may possibly be the brother of Harry Olitsky, so I'll follow up on that.

As for the surname Ulitsky vs. Olitsky - I have seen the spelling Ulitsky used, and I believe on Jewishgen it comes up when you enter the 'Sounds Like' search option for Olitsky. In US records, I have seen the same family with the spellings Olitsky, Ulitsky, Eletsky, Olatsky, and others. Of course, these early immigrants were having their names written down by others, and they would not have known how often different spellings were being used. Interestingly, my great grandfather only used Olitsky or Olitzky. 

The surname means from Olita (now Alytus, Lithuania). 
Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lewin/Levin in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus

Re: Research Jewish Genealogical Resources on the Internet with Daniel Horowitz #events #announcements

David Levine

Here, I fixed it:
Best Regards,
David Levine
San Francisco, CA, USA
Weinstein -> Solotwina, Galicia | Frisch, Hilman, Jungerman, Schindler -> Rozniatow, Galicia | Golanski, Kramerofsky/Kromerovsky -> Kiev | Lefkowitz -> Petrikov, Belarus | Shub, Rosen Hlusk, Belarus | Levine, Weiner, Zamoshkin -> Slutsk, Belarus 

Re: Research Jewish Genealogical Resources on the Internet with Daniel Horowitz #events #announcements

Darlene Glenn

The link works but you have to copy and paste the whole thing.

It does not work if you just "copy link" but it does work if you "copy" and then paste.

Darlene Glenn

Zoom Meeting: Finding Your Ancestors: How to Get Started and Where to Go #jgs-iajgs #events #announcements

Marilyn Golden

The Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.


PLEASE JOIN US!  Everyone is invited to attend!

We are very excited to host a special speaker this month! 

Time: Mar 7, 2021 01:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) (1-1:30  Check in)

The program will start promptly at 1:30 PM EST 


Guest Speaker:  Joel Spector

Topic: Finding Your Ancestors: How to Get Started and Where to Go

Joel is a Past President of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia, where he has also been chairperson of its Russian Special Interest Group. Joel has given presentations and workshops on the Russian language, both contemporary and pre-Revolutionary, and has provided translations of documents to individuals and groups. Currently Joel is a member of the Ukraine Research Group and serves as its Director of Metric Record Projects. Joel has been actively engaged in genealogy for over 30 years and has been conducting research in several historic Russian language encyclopedias. He has produced a unique English language Index to the Russian language Evreiskaya Entsiklopedia.


 The presentation will focus on how to find information about your ancestors, both those you know and those you didn’t even know you had. We will explore what data is immediately available and review what information can be derived from the many types of resources - local, national, and international - and from on-line resources. Throughout, we will focus on the excitement in discovering information about your little-known ancestors and on the various types of information that make the search in Jewish genealogy fun.

All guests will enter the waiting room muted. We will unmute during the chat. 

At 1:30 everyone will be muted and asked to turn off their videos. There will be a monitored Q and A after the presentation.  A handout from Joel will be provided.


This meeting is free and open to the public. Contact mazergolden@... to request a link.  We have a terrific Beginner's Guide and other information helpful for genealogical research on our website. Check us out on Facebook too!  The link will be posted at noon on our website on Sunday.


We look forward to 'seeing' you on Sunday! 

Marilyn Golden VP

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Re: How Weird Are We? #general

Marjorie Geiser

This has been a great thread to follow!

I can't help but wonder how I would have responded if someone had called me, out of the blue, before I was into genealogy, to say they were a cousin of mine I had never heard of. It's an entirely different mindset, I imagine. Today I have to censor myself, because I could talk about genealogy all day! LOL: I can tell when I've gone on too long when my friends get quiet...

Yet; if you ARE on Ancestry, or have put your DNA on other sites, I would THINK that meant you were looking for DNA matches. I have no desire to become best friends with strangers. My entire goal for finding cousins is to find more information on my families. And PHOTOS! I so badly want photos, especially of my Levine family, which has been my biggest challenge.

While researching my Levine grandfather's family, when I realized one DNA match was VERY close, I was THRILLED! On Ancestry, you can see roughly when people were last on there. Since she was on there quite often at the time, I thought for sure she would respond. But she didn't. And I was careful about how I put that first message, based on so many tips on the topic, and was careful with the second, and third..etc. Then I did some research on her, and it appears she's quite involved in media production, so perhaps she's well-known... to some. After my FIFTH (yeah) message, I said I wouldn't contact her again. Honestly, it was starting to feel creepy, even to me. But honestly, I've just wanted photos.

I've only been searching my family roots for a couple years, now, but probably have experienced almost everything others have mentioned; Talked with one cousin who had been adopted. Found cousins from just trees, found cousins from DNA. Have met a couple tree-found cousins in person. Talked to several others. Had two really gracious people, who had done years of research, send me what they had on my family, which opened up HUGE finds! And I've worked with others, which is more helpful than anyone can imagine.

Thanks to my 'genealogy buddies,' I found one living Levine relative. I did call him out of the blue. We actually had a nice conversation, and he sent me a couple photos. But he's still working, and although he said he'd have his daughter dig out the family photos, I don't hear from him unless I contact him, which I try to not do often. I'm sure he's still trying to figure me out.

I feel that, one day, that Levine relative I talked to will want more information. And, perhaps that will happen with the lady who doesn't respond. And others. Or not. But all I can do is my own research and celebrate the finds I uncover. From time to time I'll reach out to someone who can answer a mystery for me. But if they answer, I consider that a nice surprise.

The fun of the exploration, and the thrill of new findings make it all worth it. And, what I put together for my kids and grandkids will help remove all those historical family mysteries, which, in some cases, will just be harder to find in years to come.

Margie Geiser


Re: Hebrew Translation #translation


Good morning,


The top tombstone-

Here lies or here is buried (abbreviation on top)

Man his soul adhered to G _ d

His days of life were 61 years

Naftali son of Shlomo

Passed 24 Av 5610

May his soul be gathered in eternal life (last line abbreviation)

The bottom tombstone –

Dear and important woman

G – d fearing and pure of heart

Desired soul will sleep well

Hinda daughter of Avraham

Passed 22 Tamuz 5661

Same abbreviations on top and bottom as on the top tombstone.

Shalom, Malka Chosnek


Translation please, Kurrent German script #translation #romania

Aline Petzold

Hello All:
II have another entry from my grandmother, Pearl Wigderovici's, school workbook that  I'd love to have translated. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
Thanks for your help.
Aline Petzold
St. Paul MN

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