Re: Philadelphia marriage licenses #records


I looked for these indexes. The microfilms appear to be in the system. However, they are locked. To view them, you need to be in a Family History Center or a member of the LDS church.
We'll just have to wait for the church to open again post-covid.
Maryellen Tobiasiewicz
family from: Bielsko-Biala powiat Poland
Gorlice powiat Poland
Lviv Oblast Ukraine

Re: How Weird Are We? #general

Robert Avner

I have a suggestion for postings that refer to a previous message. If it is practical can the original message have its’ date noted as well as the Discussion Group Number listed so the thread from what may be many days ago can be followed.
Robert Avner

Re: Departure from Poland to France, for political reasons #poland


Hello Virginie,

Where in France your great-grand-parents emigrated to? To Paris? In which area of Paris?
Ph.D. in contemporainy History and specialized in the History of the Jews from Poland and Russia who emigrated toward the 18th area of Paris between 1852 and the end of the 1930's, I might help you if you want. Please, feel free to contact me. Patrice Markiewicz. I am living very close to Paris. patrice.markiewicz@... 

Re: DNA Matches - Most CentiMorgans or Largest Segment? #dna #education #poland #ukraine #galicia


The largest segment data at Ancestry is new and a helpful piece of the puzzle, but we need to also look at what is left over. 

For example, 200 cM , 25 largest segment, and a total of 8 segments would mean that there are 175 cM to spread over the remaining 7 segments, or they are all 25cM, this is likely a pretty close match (and a statistical improbability, but I am trying to keep the math simple here.) The larger segment average points toward the shared DNA being from a recent close relationship.

 On the other hand 200 cM, 25 largest segment, and a total of 15 segments means 175cM spread over 14, and we have about 12.5cM on average.  The smaller average segment size points to a more likely case of many distant connections (endogamy) vs a recent close connection.  It is, assuredly, playing the statistics, but it can help us  decide which matches are more likely to turn up something we can pin down.  Because it is playing the odds, though, sometimes it will be wrong. 

Vivs Laliberte

Orange County, Calfiornia

Re: DNA Matches - Most CentiMorgans or Largest Segment? #dna #education #poland #ukraine #galicia



For the moment, at least, DNAGedcom is able to download your matches to a spreadsheet. 
Vivs Laliberte

Orange County, Calfiornia

Re: Hebrew Translation #translation


Hi Deborah, 

I have a correction and two additions to Malka's translation of Nathan's epitaph. 

From the picture the death date seems to be 24 of Av 5650. There are additional details. It says that he passed away on a Monday and was buried on Tuesday 26 of Av.
The English date at the bottom says August 11th 1890.
This corresponds to 25 of Av, which actually was a Monday. Since the picture is pretty clear, 24 is not a misreading but an error of the stone graver between the letter dalet (ד) and he (ה) .

Additionally the name of the deceased is preceded by the title of Doctor, not necessary indicating an M. D. 

Best regards  

Laurent Kassel 
Moreshet, Israel 

Seeking Additional Information: SCHOENFELD/ARNDT/DAVID/LEVIN/CHRALL #poland



Hello there.
I'm new to the Jewishgen groups and I found this thread.
My great grandfather was Charles (or Kallman) Arndt born in Nakel in 1831.
He moved with his family to Liverpool sometime between 1876-1881.
I believe his first wife was Carolina Hirsh born 1830 in Wirsitz (modern day Wrysyzc).
They had a son, Herman b. 1857 in Nakel.
His second wife was Pauline (maiden name unknown, although possibly Schwartz) born 1833 in Colmar in Preussen (modern day Chodziez).
Children were:
Simon b.1860 Colmar
Elias b. 1863 Colmar (my grandfather)
Ernest b.1864 Colmar
Max b.1866 Colmar
Dora b.1871 Nakel
Joseph b.1873 Nakel
Lena b.1876 Nakel.

So as you can see, my Arndt branch has strong links to Nakel and Posen in general and I wonder if our families are linked?


If nothing else, this gives you a some more information about my Arndt family from Nakel.  There are many descendants from this branch living here in the UK and in the US.
Best regards,
Peter Clarkson

Re: Suggestion for a Jewish name for Sevek #poland #names

Jill Whitehead

This may not have been either a first name or a Polish name. Polish does not have v - it has w instead of v.  My great grandfather was Josiel or Joseph Serwianski (person from lake Serwy in Suwalki Gubernia) which became Servian and Server in the UK and Serviansky and Sirvan in the USA. 

Sevek sounds Czech rather than Polish. 

Jill Whitehead (nee Servian), Surrey, UK

Looking for lists of a civilian census in Tarnow-Poland between 1925-1939 #poland #records

חיים סגל

I am looking for documentation of: Population Lists / Address Book / Business Directory,
In Tarnow, Poland, between the years 1920-1939
I would love to receive information / reference
with gratitude

Haim Segal

RootsTech 2021 Is Available on Line for One Year #general #announcements

Jan Meisels Allen



RootsTech 2021 was held 25-27 February 2021. If you missed RootsTech, or had to more sessions to attend and the time ran out, don’t fret!  While RootsTech 2021 is over, their programs are available online for one year. There were over 1.2 million people worldwide who participated. It was the world’s largest family history event. Over 35 languages were available.


There were 1,000 breakout sessions across eight different tracks which included: keynotes, connecting with family, finding ancestors, DNA, places, records and research, memories-stories, photos and video, traditions and heritage and website, tools and apps. This includes several Jewish-specific topics: Hebrew Naming and How to Read Hebrew Headstones with Nolan Altman, Landmanshaft: What Are They and How Can They Help My Research with Nolan Altman, Using the JewishGen Discussion Group and Jewish Genealogy Portal with Avraham Groll, Explore Jewish Genealogical Societies with Marlis Humphrey, Crypto-Jewish Genealogy Series, How I Found My Crypto-Jewish Grandmothers, and How Crypto-Jewish Genealogy is Different all with Genie Milgrom. Also, Mexican Genealogy: Jewish Origin of Three Families in Jalisco with Nefi Arenas Salazar and Shining a Light on Jewish Genealogy with Liba Casson-Nudell. The Soil from Which They Grew: The Alliance Colony with Jared Ross about the first Jewish agricultural colony in America (Vineland, NJ). Of course there are sessions on different ethnicities, researching, documents and DNA and much more.


Go to: You must be registered at FamilySearch to access the conference and registration is free. They require your name and email address.


The list of sessions is:


The virtual exhibit hall had many different organizations with  “booths”

The IAJGS booth is available to view at:


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: DNA Matches - Most CentiMorgans or Largest Segment? #dna #education #poland #ukraine #galicia

Dahn Cukier

There are a number of missing tools at Ancestry, but I'd like to be able
to get a spreadsheet file of DNA matches. I would then be able to
compare the 50k 4th and closer relatives of the 9 accounts I have management
ability and would be able to request from other, known relatives, but
not close socially, to send me their matches.

Dahn Cukier

>The large Ancestry database has provide me with the most matches, but it would be much more helpful if they >had a chromosome browser so I could see exactly what the match was and compare it to others. As noted, >they are far behind in this regard,
>David Sanger

When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Friday, March 5, 2021, 8:24:19 AM GMT+2, David Sanger <ds@...> wrote:

The large Ancestry database has provide me with the most matches, but it would be much more helpful if they had a chromosome browser so I could see exactly what the match was and compare it to others. As noted, they are far behind in this regard,

David Sanger


SCHLANGER, BRAND from Jezowe,  Kolbuszowa, Sokołów Małopolski 


david sanger, albany ca

david sanger photography

travel ::  outdoors :: photography :: media

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Yizkor Book Report for February 2021 #yizkorbooks #JewishGenUpdates




Although February is the shortest month, I think you’ll see that we were not short of activity over the last month. Many projects made great progress, coming that much closer to being fully completed.


Over the past few weeks, we were contacted by quite a few people interested in setting up a Translation Fund for the community book of their ancestors. The translation of complete Yizkor books does take time and, unavoidably, plenty of financial support but starting up these projects with great enthusiasm and dedication does yield results. If you, yourself, are interested in learning what is involved in starting up a translations project, please feel free to contact me.


The Yizkor books contain histories and stories about the communities and often particular names of people are mentioned. We need to remember, however, that the books were prepared by the Holocaust survivors who didn’t always remember every person who lived in the community. This is true, in particular, in regards to the necrology lists that were compiled by the survivors. Although these lists contain an unfathomable number of names of people killed in the Holocaust, because the compilation does rely on memories and not official registries, not all those who were lost appear in them. This is just a clarification for people who are looking for their family names but don’t find them in the necrology or in any section of the Yizkor book of their family’s community. For many others, the Yizkor books do provide a great deal of enlightening material on their families,

Finally, although I didn’t have a chance to wish you all a Purim Sameach and/or a Happy Purim,  I would now like to wish you and your families, albeit slightly  early, a Pesach Sameach and/ or a Happy Passover.


And now for details of what was carried out in February:

Yizkor Book updates

This month, 32 existing projects were updated and they were:

·  Bar, Ukraine (Town of Bar: Jewish Pages Through The Prism Of Time)

·  Biała Podlaska, Poland (Book of Biala Podlaska)

·  Braslaw, Belarus (Darkness and desolation)

·  Chelm, Poland (Commemoration book Chelm)

·  Dzyatlava, Belarus (A memorial to the Jewish community of Zhetel)

·  Gabin, Poland (Gombin: The Life and Destruction of a Jewish Town in Poland)

·  Hrubieszow, Poland (Memorial Book of Hrubieshov)

·  Hlybokaye, Belarus  (The Destruction of Globokie)

·  Jaroslaw, Poland (Jaroslaw Book: a Memorial to Our Town)

·  Kamyanyets, Belarus (Memorial Book of Kamenets Litovsk, Zastavye, and Colonies)

·  Kutno, Poland (Kutno and Surroundings Book)

·  Makow Mazowiecki, Poland (Memorial book of the community of Maków-Mazowiecki)

·  Mizoch, Ukraine (Memorial Book of Mizocz)

·  Novohrad-Volyns'kyy, Ukraine (Zvhil Novograd-Volynskiy)

·  Oleksandriya, Ukraine (Memorial book of the community of Aleksandria)

·  Ostrowiec Świętokrzyski, Poland (Ostrowiec; a monument on the ruins of an annihilated Jewish community)

·  Radom, Poland (The book of Radom)

·  Radomsko, Poland (Memorial book of the community of Radomsk and vicinity)

·  Rafalovka, Ukraine (Memorial book for the towns of Old Rafalowka, New Rafalowka, Olizarka, Zoludzk and vicinity)

·  Sarny, Ukraine (Memorial Book of the Community of Sarny)

·  Siedlce, Poland (Memorial book of the community of Siedlce)

·  Sokołów Podlaski, Poland (Memorial Book Sokolow-Podlask)

·  Szumsk, Ukraine (Szumsk, memorial book of the martyrs of Szumsk)

·  Tarnow, Poland (Tarnow; The Life and Destruction of a Jewish City)

·  Tuchin, Ukraine (Tuczin-Kripa, Wolyn; in Memory of the Jewish Community)

·  Ustilug, Ukraine (The growth and destruction of the community of Uscilug)

·  Valozhyn, Belarus (Wolozin; the book of the city and of the Etz Hayyim Yeshiva)

·  Vidzy, Belarus (Widze Memorial Book)

·  Wołomin, Poland (Volomin; a memorial to the Jewish community of Volomin)

·  Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland (Wysokie-Mazowieckie; Memorial Book)

·  Zelów, Poland (Memorial Book of the Community of Zelow)

·  Zolochiv, Ukraine   (The City of Zloczow)

New book

The following is a new complete book placed online during February.

New entries

The following are new entries placed online during February.


New Yizkor Book in Print

Each month, almost, new books “hit the shelves” through the driving force of the Yizkor Books in Print Project and, once again, I’m please to let you know of yet another book that was made available in February:

If you are interested in any of this book or any of the others that have been made available, please go t the YBIP main page using the link shown below. 

Important links

Before ending this report, here are some important links to note:

All the best,

Lance Ackerfeld

Director of Special Projects - Yizkor Books



Goldstein/Goldsteyn #germany #general

Chana Goldman

Looking for family members of Meir Goldstein  married to Edel Plaut 1800s Felsberg Germany.
Chana Goldman

Re: DNA Matches - Most CentiMorgans or Largest Segment? #dna #education #poland #ukraine #galicia

David Sanger

The large Ancestry database has provide me with the most matches, but it would be much more helpful if they had a chromosome browser so I could see exactly what the match was and compare it to others. As noted, they are far behind in this regard,

David Sanger


SCHLANGER, BRAND from Jezowe,  Kolbuszowa, Sokołów Małopolski 


david sanger, albany ca

david sanger photography

travel ::  outdoors :: photography :: media

updates at


Subj: ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation


I've posted two pages (male and female) from the 1851 Revision List from the Letichev District (Ukraine) in Russian for which I would 
greatly appreciate a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following addresses ... Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much

Paul Moverman
Milford, NH USA

Suggestion for a Jewish name for Sevek #poland #names


I have a name of a relative from pre-war Poland: Sevek, last name may be Zekiel.  Any suggestions on what his Jewish/Yiddish name might have been. 

He was married to my aunt Hinda (Nina) Feld who was born in Dobrzyn nad Wisla.   He may have been a second husband, may have been many years her junior, and they may have lived in Dobzyn or vicinity.

I can't find any records for either of them. 

Appreciate any help 

Relly Coleman

UK-Northern Ireland 2021 Census Ignoring Minority Religions; Scotland 2022 Census and How to List Ethnicity as Jewish #unitedkingdom #general #records

Jan Meisels Allen



The 2021 Census Questionnaire  of Northern Ireland reportedly is ignoring minority religions such as Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, Pagan or Baha’i.  The questionnaire does include Roman Catholic, Presbyterian church of Ireland, Church of Ireland, Methodist Church of Ireland, Other and None.  This is in contrast to the Census 2021 Questionnaire of England, Wales and Scotland. Census day is March 21, 2021 and it is encouraged to be filled out online.  See:


You can click on the questionnaire for England and Wales at:


See question 16 on either England’s or Wales’ 2021 Questionnaire on religion which includes a group of minority religions, including Jewish.

Scotland has moved its census to 2022 due to the pandemic and has not yet posted the questionnaire. See:


Based on Scotland’s census 2021 equality impact assessment they made the following analysis about how people should list “Jewish” in other ethnic category. See:

And scroll down to: race, then scroll to Information on the Jewish Population.


To read more see:


To see the previous postings on the UK census go to the archives of the IAJGS Records Access Alert at: You must be registered to access the archives.  To register go to: and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical  organization with whom you are affiliated   You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee



Lithuanian Draft Avoidance Lists #russia #lithuania

Adam Turner

I'm curious if anyone knows the particularities of how lists of conscripts, and "men avoiding the draft", were created around WWI in the Russian Empire. I'm pretty confident that I've found family members of mine in the Panevezys District Draft Avoidance aka "Conscripts List did not go to Army" list in the LitvakSIG database: conscript Genekh Faivel KHATSKELEVICH, son of Abel, his parents Abel and Gitel, and his brothers Azriel and Shimen Khaim, listed in Krekenava in 1915. This is a very strong match for my great-grandmother's cousins Frank (Feivel), Arthur (Azriel), and Herman (Hebrew name unknown, but obviously Chaim is the most likely candidate), who changed their surname to STEIN in the US.  

The only point of hesitation I have on matching this list to my cousins is that the conscript, Genekh Faivel aka Frank Stein, had immigrated to the US in September 1913, and his older brother, Azriel aka Arthur, had likely immigrated to the US even earlier, in 1907 (I have the naturalization papers and their probable manifests). So I'm wondering about the specifics of how these lists were enumerated: were the authorities working off of some other lists of military-age men that had been created many years earlier, and is that why they were still listing men in them who had been gone from the country for years by 1915?

Adam Turner

Russian translation of documents from Lithuanian Archives #translation

Benjamin Baum

I’ve posted three nineteenth century Russian documents on ViewMate that I recently received from the Lithuanian Archives. They are from the 1834 Revision List and various tax/voter lists. I’m hoping someone can translate for me.
Thank you!
Ben Baum
Estonia: Ogus, Latt, Reisner
Hungary: Welkowitz, Adler, Auerbach, Ungar, Nussbaum, Kreindler
Latvia: Mandelkorn, Joselovitz, Reisner
Lithuania: Joselovitz, Ogus, Shternfeld, Sandler
Poland: Baum, Bajm, Tamhammer, Koprowski, Kamjanski, Herman, Frydman, Ziegel
Belarus: Gerstein, Shterman

Re: Help with Amsterdam marriage records 1796/5556 #general


Laurent Kassel: That is actually clear from the texts and the dates in the text.
Inside the text the date is given that the parties agreed to get married by. Near the bottom of the text it says the date the document was drawn up. It differs from one month to 2 years. As such, even if this family actually made this Tnaim Rishonim (not everyone did) and even if the earlier documents exist, it would be near impossible to know at which date to look.

N. Aronson
Manchester UK

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