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Re: Relationship titles #general

jbonline1111@...
 

While your parents' first cousins are also your first cousins, once removed, in some cultures, it is a sign of respect to call all older people auntie or uncle.  This is true in Indian culture, for example. 
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


JGS-Montreal presents Streamlining Your Research with Our Genealogy Dashboard - March 22 #announcements #canada #jgs-iajgs

Victoria Barkoff
 

JGS-Montreal presents Gary Perlman, March 22 at 7:30 PM Eastern time

Streamlining Your Research with Our Genealogy Dashboard

YouTube link: https://youtu.be/Z8lYnJcNcRY

donation optional: https://jgs-montreal.org/dev/support.html#donations

 

Gary Perlman, JGS-Montreal Webmaster and IAJGS 2020 Volunteer of the Year, has created a genealogy dashboard that launches your research of dozens of sites with a single click. Learn how it can help you in your research and maybe inspire other societies to create their own versions.

-Victoria Barkoff for JGS Montreal


Why Various Spellings of A Family Name #names

Carl Kaplan
 

My mother's paternal side came from Kolbuszowa in Galicia. My great-grandfather's surname was Hoffert. However, looking at records for his newly discovered siblings show various spellings of the surname, Hoffort and Hoffart. Given they all lived in NYC, I am curious if anyone has ever heard WHY this happened.  I know this is common, and there are many transliterations of a name from Yiddish, but I have never heard any reasons why various members of the same immediate family chose different spellings. I know I won't "solve" this in my own family, but am very interested in the possibilities. Thanks in advance.
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Carl Kaplan

KAPLAN Minsk, Belarus
EDELSON, EDINBURG Kovno, Lithuania
HOFFERT, BIENSTOCK< BIENENSTOCK Kolbuszowa, Galicia
STEINBERG, KLINGER, WEISSBERG, APPELBERG Bukaczowce, Galicia


Re: We believe we are related, but DNA doesn't show connection... ??? KLEPFISZ #poland #warsaw #dna

Phil Karlin
 

Once you get to 3rd cousin, there is a possibility of no shared DNA, though small (2.3%). As you get more distant, the odds of no shared DNA increase significantly.
International Society of Genetic Genealogy Wiki




Phil Karlin
Hartford, CT USA


Re: Restoration of German Citizenship #germany

Awesome Properties
 

Can you restore citizenship to descendents in Ukraine as well ? What would process be? My grandparents came from Beregsaz , formerly Czechoslovakia , now Berehove , Ukraine. Would it apply as well?
Thank you,
Rachel Malik
HERSCKOVITS Illeanda Romania
TESZLER Petri,  Barsana ,Birsana,Romania
FRIEDMAN Oradea, Marghita , Romania
LEITMAN Saniob , Romania
DEUTSCH Covacs 


Re: ViewMate Translation Request: Russian Language Polish Marriage Record #poland #translation #records

ryabinkym@...
 

In Russian:

 

#3

Посад Андржеов (возможно)

Состоялось в посаде Андржеов 17-го (29-го) июня 1893-го года в 4 часа дня.  Объявляем, что в присутстсвии свидетелей Шлемы Златогуры, 39-и лет, пекаря и Мордки Квятка, 57-и лет, рабочего, жителей посаде Андржеов,  что сегодня был заключен религиозный брачный союз между Абрамом-Шмулем Чижевер, холостым, 20-и лет, стекольщиком, живущим в посаде Чижев, сыном умершего Меера-Гдали и живущей Рейзы, урожденной Цебень, с Блюмой Фенстер, девицей, 20-и лет, дочерью умершего Гершка и живущей Естеры, супругов Фенстер, живущей с матерью в посаде Андржеов. Браку этому предшествовали троекратное оглашение в Андржеовской и Чижевской синагогах - 29-го мая, 5-го и 12-го июня сего года.  Препятствий для заключения брака не заявлены.  Новобрачные заявили, что предбрачный договор между ними заключен не был.  Религиозный обряд был совершен исполняющим должность равина Андржеовского округа Лейбой Кушером.  Акт сей по прочтении равином новобрачным и свидетелям, ими и нами подписан. Новобрачные заявили, что они не грамотны.

Равин Лейба Кушер

Шлема Златогуры

Мордка Квятка

Чиновник гражданского состояния       Подпись

Translated into English:

In Russian:

 

 # 3

Posad Andrzeov (possibly)

It took place in the settlement of Andrzejów on June 17 (29), 1893 at 4 pm. We declare that in the presence of witnesses Shlema Zlatogura, 39 years old, a baker and Mordka Kvyatka, 57 years old, a worker, residents of the Andrzejów settlement, that today a religious marriage was concluded between Abram-Shmul Chizhever, single, 20 years old, a glazier living in the Chizhev posad, the son of the deceased Meer-Gdali and living Reiza, nee Tseben, with Bluma Fenster, a 20-year-old damsel, the daughter of the deceased Gershko and living Estera, the Fenster spouses, living with her mother in the Andrzejów posad. This marriage was preceded by a three-fold announcement in the Andrzejów and Chizhev synagogues - on May 29, June 5 and 12 this year. There are no barriers to marriage. The newlyweds said that the prenuptial agreement was not concluded between them. The religious ceremony was performed by Leiba Kusher, the acting rabbi of the Andrzejów district. This act upon reading by the rabbi to newlyweds and to witnesses, was signed by them and by us. The newlyweds said they were not literate.

Rabbi Leiba Kusher

 

Shlema Zlatogura

 

Muzzle Kvyatka

 

Civil Status Official Signature


Translated by Michael Ryabinky
Columbus, OH


Re: Restoration of German Citizenship #germany

Connie
 

I applied for restored German citizenship and received it -- it took over a year. I was able to pick up my naturalization paper at the honorary consulate in Cincinnati rather than go to Chicago. The consul was very helpful and at the same time I applied for a German passport, which I received about 6 weeks later.

Connie Springer
Cincinnati OH


Re: Restoration of German Citizenship #germany

David Lewin
 

That waiting time is clearly governed by one's age. I was in my 80's and had virtually no wait for the acceptance

David Lewin
London


At 11:23 17/03/2021, r.d.oppenheimer@... wrote:
I live in the US and I have applied for German citizenship under Article 116. I was able to provide the necessary proof, but the waiting period is extremely long. I applied in June 2019, and at that time was told I would have to wait 18-24 months for final approval. Brexit and the Covid pandemic only helped to slow down the process even more. I am still waiting 22 months later. The German Consulate in Miami was extremely helpful in pre-screening my application for the necessary supporting documents.
--
Richard Oppenheimer
Venice, Florida, USA


Re: Restoration of German Citizenship #germany

Judith Elam
 

I obtained German citizenship almost 5 years ago.  The requirements are quite specific and it is taking at least 2 years to obtain.  Brexit fueled a lot of applications.  I was already British and American.  I didn't really need it.  I just simply wanted back a small part of what was stolen from my family.  For me this was a huge step in my journey of reconciliation with the past.  But I will never forget or forgive what happened.  So there are many reasons for people applying......and they are all valid.

Judith Nathan Elam
Kihei, HI


We believe we are related, but DNA doesn't show connection... ??? KLEPFISZ #poland #warsaw #dna

Elizabeth Jackson
 

Hello everyone,

My "cousin" and I have both had our DNA tested and have it on MyHeritage.  Though we have not yet found our exact connection, we do believe we are cousins, albeit it may be a distant connection.  We are both descended from KLEPFISZ of Poland.  We were told once by a well known scholar (born in Poland) who was also a Klepfisz that "...it was a small family.  All are related".  In fact, many lived within a very small area of Warsaw.  The Klepfisz connection for each of us is only as far back as our grandparents.

We hoped that having our DNA tested would give us some clue as to our connection.  Sadly, MyHeritage is not showing us as related at all.  I understand that it is possible that if the match is many generation back, we may no longer show any shared DNA.  However, our suspicion is that the connection is not so far back and we are surprised to find no shared DNA.

As you may imagine, we are very eager to try and learn our exact connection.  The lack of DNA connection has been very disappointing.
 
Do any of you  have suggestions or ideas on how we might continue to research this farther?  Any help will be most appreciated!

Elizabeth Jackson
Muskegon Michigan

Researching:  KLEPFISZ, INGBERG


Re: DRUCKERs of Kyiv, Ukraine (Kiev) to rabbinic line. #rabbinic

Mike Coleman
 

Hi Giannis,

Ancestry has a number of hits for a Harry Drucker of this vintage and born in "Russia", generally with his father I.D.ed as Norman.....

 

Mike Coleman  London U.K.


Re: Restoration of German Citizenship #germany

Richard Oppenheimer
 

I live in the US and I have applied for German citizenship under Article 116. I was able to provide the necessary proof, but the waiting period is extremely long. I applied in June 2019, and at that time was told I would have to wait 18-24 months for final approval. Brexit and the Covid pandemic only helped to slow down the process even more. I am still waiting 22 months later. The German Consulate in Miami was extremely helpful in pre-screening my application for the necessary supporting documents.
--
Richard Oppenheimer
Venice, Florida, USA


Re: Restoration of German Citizenship #germany

Tina Isaacs
 

Like David, I too took German citizenship in order to ensure that my children had the right to live and work in the EU.  I used an agency to help find some documentation that I couldn't easily access myself.  The bonus for doing this was that it sparked my interest in family history, about which I knew almost nothing.
--
Tina Isaacs
London, England


Re: Stanislawow/Ivano-Frankivsk - an enquiry regarding the 1900 census conducted in the city by the Austro-Hungarians #galicia #ukraine

Avi Bitron
 

HM3/1092.13 for 1857

HM3/1092.14  for 1900

It is in fact the same microfilm at CHAJP

Avi Bitron


Re: Relationship titles #general

Eva Lawrence
 

A little while ago I was calling for the daughter of my first cousin at
her place of work. and, yes, I did say that I was her aunt. She was
puzzled at the time, as she knew her mother's ony sibling lived abroad,
but in the context, the complications of the relationship were
really unimportant.
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.
--
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Re: Restoration of German Citizenship #germany

David Seldner
 

I also did it a few years ago. It is a relatively simple process. Advantages: You can live (and work) anywhere in the EU. You can vote (if you consider this to be an advantage).
Disadvantages: none. No taxes, unless you live in Germany (I do, so I pay taxes in Germany and in the US, but there is a treaty).
--
David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany
seldner@...


Re: Translation request: Hebrew to English (Yad Vashem testimony) #holocaust #translation #subcarpathia

Odeda Zlotnick
 

Amendment:
By the way, it's not only the translations that are problematic, it's whatever happened in the digitalization process; in this case, even the Hebrew has Naftali as the daughter.

Yad Vashem lets you submit corrections to those errors - I've done that now.

Bottom line: if a POT is submitted in a language you don't know -- have it translated from the scan by a human being who knows that language - and submit correction to Yad Vashem, or ask the translator to do so. 

--
Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.


Re: Relationship titles #general

Kenneth Ryesky
 

June,

The first cousin of a parent would be a first cousin once removed ("1C1R")  That 1C1R's child would be a first cousin twice removed ("1C2R").  And so on.

That said, often the technical formalities are disregarded.  Personal examples:  When I was growing up, we all referred to my grandfather's first cousin as "Aunt Celia," notwithstanding that to me she was a 1C2R.  And even today, the ex-wife of a son (albeit by adoption) of my mother's first cousin refers to herself as my mom's "cousin."

--
Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@... 

Researching:
RAISKY/REISKY, ARONOV, SHKOLNIK(OV), AEROV; Gomel, Belarus
GERTZIG, BRODSKY; Yelizavetgrad, Ukraine
BRODSKY, VASILESKY; Odessa, Ukraine
IZRAELSON, ARSHENOV; Yevpatoriya, Ukraine (Crimea)


Searching for the surname Nabatov/Nabatoff from Gomel, Belitsa and Ukraine #belarus #ukraine #general

rnrd99@...
 

I am attempting to find the parents, siblings and other family members of my great grandfather Leivik>Louis, Nabatov>Nabatoff and great grandmother Youdes>Dora, Wolfson Nabatoff, who emigrated from Belarus to the US in 1904. Has anyone else searched or found members of this family?

Thank you


Ross Kremsdorf


Re: Translation request: Hebrew to English (Yad Vashem testimony) #holocaust #translation #subcarpathia

Odeda Zlotnick
 

Never trust Yad Vashem's automatic translations.  They are a mess for many - at times unavoidable - reasons, and Carol Hoffman's above quote is a great example of why.

Naftali is a male's name.
There is absolutely no doubt that he is described in handwritten Hebrew as the victim's son.

And yet, the translation from Yad Vasheme has made him a "daughter" - wrong, wrong, wrong!

And I know from personal contact with Yad Vashem staff that they have a special problem with relationship translation.

Always ask for another translation.
Odeda Zlotnick

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