Changes in IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee #records #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Jan Meisels Allen

Dear JewishGen Discussion Group Subscribers:


I am writing to advise you of two changes to the IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee which is responsible for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and replying to proposed legislation and regulations affecting records access.


First, we are delighted to add to our committee, Peter Graber-Lipperman. He goes by Pete. He recently retired as Corporate VP and Associate General Counsel of United Technologies Corp and formerly Vice President and General Counsel of Sikorsky Aircraft. In both he worked on federal legislation and regulations. Located in Connecticut, he is a recent member of JGS-NY, Inc.


Secondly, we announce the retirement of Paul Silverstone, who was appointed by the IAJGS Board to the committee in 2004. For a number years he served as IAJGS treasurer (2009-2015). Paul is an active, almost nonagenarian, who recently relocated from New York City to Vancouver, British Columbia to be closer to his family. Paul served on the JGSNY Board of Directors for many years.  He has dual citizenship between Canada and the U.S. Paul has written a number of books on ships and is an internationally recognized naval authority known for his many books and articles on warships. He is author of US Warships of WWII and editor of the naval notes column of Warship International, the quarterly journal of the international Naval Research Organization. He is currently writing another book!


The IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee:

Jan Meisels Allen  Chairperson,                                    JGS Conejo Valley and Ventura County (JGSCV)

In alphabetical order:

Peter Graber-Lipperman                                               JGSNY, Inc

Teven Laxer                                                                     JGS Sacramento

Bert Lazerow                                                                   San Diego JGS

Mark Nicholls                                                                  JGS Great Britain

Catherine Youngren                                                       JGS Vancouver, BC, Canada

Ken Bravo, ex officio   President, IAJGS                      JGS Cleveland


The IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee currently is comprised of two retired lobbyists, a retired general counsel, an active law professor, a word-smith extraordinaire, two international representatives-all active in their personal genealogy! Your committee has an excellent complement of talent to represent IAJGS on the many issues facing records access worldwide, so we can all do our genealogy research with hopefully a limited intrusion to our advocation and for some vocation.


Note:  All appointments are approved by the IAJGS Board of Directors

The JGS listed is the “home” JGS of the member as some of us belong to multiple JGSs.


For those interested in registering (its free) to the IAJGS Records Access Alert  go to:  You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized. It is required to include your organization affiliation (genealogy organization, etc.) To access the IAJGS Records Access Alert archives go to:  You must be registered to access the archives.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee





Re: Handwriting Help #records

The Becker's Email

I used the URL you included and that gave me Ancestry and the original manifest and I was able to zoom in to try to read.  Hinde's contact in the country from whence she came was her mother Blume Pela??sl, Savatzsky St., Wegdarovtz, Russia.  I can't find this town on jewishgen townfinder.  I checked out and their transcription lists other person as Bleyne Pelaunsh.  

Johanna Becker
Newport, RI

Re: Natan Noteh equivalent to one name? #names

Howard Nightingale

Natan and Noteh are separate names
My great uncle was known as Natan Noteh and that was on his passport as well

Howard Nightingale

Rabbin Rajzer Lejb Treistman #lodz #rabbinic #poland

Sylvia Kesbi <sylvia.kesbi@...>

My grand-parents were married in a synagogue by the Rabbin Rajzer Lejb Treistman in Lodz in the beginning of the 20 th century. I would like to know something about this jewih community. 
Thank's a lot
Sylvia Kesbi-Herszbajn

Re: "Neustat" shtetl near Minsk #poland #names

Gerald and Margaret

I would suggest that you contact "The Together Plan".  It is a charity based in London and Minsk helping the remaining Jews in Belarus to become more self-sufficient.  One of their projects is to provide a genealogical research service. 
They have the huge advantage of being local, fluent in the relevant languages and experienced in the quirks of the local bureaucracy.  .
Good hunting 

Margaret Levin
London UK 

New Book: Shealtiel-Charlap Family of Eastern Europe #general

Gary Mokotoff

The Charlap family ancestors were Royal Court Jews of Portugal: prominent rabbis, great scholars and prosperous businessmen. In this book, Andrew Charlap of Kazakhstan has diligently documented his Christian family back to circa 1650. The Jewish Charlap family is well documented with a fixed, inherited family name in Eastern Europe as early as the 17th century. Each reader must decide for himself whether or not the evidence is convincing that the author has assembled to support his hypothesis about his ancestor Parchom Charlapowicz’s connection to Eliezer ben David, who is apparently the first Jew to adopt the Charlap name. 


Additional information can be found at

Gary Mokotoff

Re: request for gravestone picture at Mt. Hebron Flushing, NY #photographs

Renee Steinig

Peter Cohen <peter.cohen@...> wrote:
There is very little chance of getting a photo request fulfilled through findagrave at a big New York cemetery. There are just too many requests. Most of those cemeteries will take a picture and email it to you for a fee. Probably $15 or $20.
And Mount Hebron makes that easy. One of several helpful features on its website is online ordering of grave photos. After locating a name at , click to see the person's record, which will include this link: PAY FOR PHOTO OF GRAVESITE. The cost is $14; "the cemetery will take a picture... and email it to you within one week."
Another nice feature on the Mount Hebron website: GPS. Many decedents' records now include satellite photos showing grave locations.
Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY


1910 US Census Record for Grandmother #names #general


My grandmother emigrated from Poland, then part of Russia, in 1906. Her given name is listed in the 1910 US census records as Sporcha.  However, she is listed in the 1920 US census as Sophie. Could Sporcha be her Polish name which was later anglicized to Sophie?  Or could the 1910 listing of Sporcha just be a misspelling of Sophie. I am very curious to know. Diana

Diana Gleave

Re: request for gravestone picture at Mt. Hebron Flushing, NY #photographs

Peter Cohen

There is very little chance of getting a photo request fulfilled through findagrave at a big New York cemetery. There are just too many requests. Most of those cemeteries will take a picture and email it to you for a fee. Probably $15 or $20.
Peter Cohen

Re: Romania Research Division Update #romania #announcements #records #JewishGenUpdates

Vivian Kahn

More information for people buried in the Velente Cemetery or any other cemetery included in JOWBR may be found by searching the Hungary database. Burial records often identify deceased by their Yiddish or Torah names (e.g. Zisha) rather than the Hungarian secular names that may appear in the database. When searching Hungarian records remember that there are often alternate versions of given names. Alexander  could be Aleksander, Sandor, or Sanyi. Moreover, burial records included in JOWBR identify cemeteries by their current location and many towns in Hungary often had German as well as Hungarian names (e.g. Nagyvarad, Grosswardin or Pozsony, Pressburg, Bratislava). Many of those listed in burial records may have been born before the end of World War I, when Hungary lost about two-thirds of its land area so the record is listed under one of the former names. It is also a  good idea to search by entering the Hungarian county or district where the cemetery was located in Any Field.
Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California
JewishGen Hungarian Research Director

Re: Handwriting Help #records


This is all I could decipher.  The dots represent indecipherable.

Son  ....... allschiter 217/9
Siegel st, Brooklyn ny
Aunt. .......(hinde Lurie?) C/o m. F.....

238 mel ave, Brooklyn
Husband  .l or p lipshitz 43
vie(nna?) st. Rochester ny
Son j salvo/c/o John

Tanya Roland

Re: POLISH CERTIFICATE OF NATIONALITY #poland #general #austria-czech

Dr. Ruth Leiserowitz

The list of certificates issued by the Consulate should be in the Warsaw Archives of New Files. Inquiries should be sent to the following mail: 

Ruth Leiserowitz
Researching East Prussia and Western Lithuania

"Neustat" shtetl near Minsk #poland #names

Todd Leavitt

My "Levitsky" family co-hort apparently originated from a shtetl that is referred to in several passenger manifests as "Neustat" (which would be close to Minsk based on Naturalization Papers of those involved). I know that Negnevichi is one close shtetl that might qualify. Does anyone have other suggestions?
Todd Leavitt
Santa Monica, CA (USA)

Re: Need copy of record located at LDS library - KLEPFISZ #poland #records

Michaele Burris

There is an FHC open near me.  I can get a copy of the record next week.
Michaele Burris

Balassagyarmat street names/maps #hungary


My grandfather Ferencz Weisz was born at 379 Nagyhid utca in Balassagyarmat in 1880, I have a photo of the house. I think the street may have been called Altstadt st just before that. Does anyone have or know where I may find a map of the town in the 1870s or 1880s to work out where on the street the house would have been?
Many thanks
Emma Cole

Handwriting Help #records


Can anyone decipher the handwriting on this Passenger Manifest Lines 28-30 Column 11 for Hinde Lurie and Family. I am providing a Link to the entire document and a Screenshot below
Thanks for your patience and help
Jay Filan
Brooklyn, New York

SUMMARY OF RESPONSES AND HAPPY RESULTS! We believe we are related, but DNA doesn't show connection... ??? KLEPFISZ #poland #warsaw #dna

Elizabeth Jackson

Thank you everyone for the many responses with wonderful explanations and suggestions.  Our JewishGenners are always so helpful!

While my "cousin" and I knew it was possible that our connection was far enough back that we would not share any DNA, the most common thread among the responses was to check your DNA on numerous sites as sometimes you will match on one and not on another.  With that in mind, I loaded my DNA to FamilyTreeDNA, a place where my "cousin" already had hers.  Sure enough, here we find we are a match!  4th cousin to remote, but a match none the less!

We have been in touch for almost 30 years now, not knowing for sure if we were related.  Yesterday was a day of miracles for us as we were able to finally find some proof of our connection.  Chances are we may never find the actual connection, but it is nice to know that we truly are related.

Some of you asked if we cannot go farther back on our family lines.  Sadly, not at this point.  We have checked all the normal sources, but sometimes it is not possible to continue.

On my own line, I have gone back as far as my 3rd great grandparents, Mosek Izaak Klepfisz (b. 1940) and Esther Mandel.  However, this is based on information from other's trees and I do not have specific records to verify the information..  My 2x great grandfather was Nison Mosiek Klepfisz b. ca. 1770.  His wife was Szosa Ajzensprung.  JewishGen does have a record for the marriage of their son Dawid Mordka Klepfisz to Etta Laja Ruda in Warsaw (whom I know to be my great grandparents), so this is my proof that they are my 2x great grandparents.  There is also a record of death for Dawid, 4 Jul 1922 Warszawa, Mazowiedkie, Poland.  As far as locations for my ancestors, I only know Warsaw.

As you can see, I continue to research and I do not give up.  And in not giving up, my cousin and I finally at least have a shred of proof of our relationship.

Thanks again to everyone who offered suggestions.  I am happy to report a bit of a success story!

Elizabeth Jackson
Michigan, USA

Re: Triangulating matches #dna

Milton Koch

I use chromosome browser, then move the possible matching ones to a "word" document where the common segments can be visually observed along with the size of overlap.
Milton Koch

Re: Wolk family of Lithuania #lithuania

David Wolk

Carol Hoffman,

Thanks for your response re. suggested resources.  Have tried the LitvakSIG and the JewishGen Family Finder.  No matter how I spell the family name, town or country, the result is the same - zero.  Any thoughts?

David Wolk

Re: Family of Haim And Ides BRAUNSTEIN / COJOCARU of Saveni Romania #romania #usa #israel #holocaust


There is a marriage in 1909 of  Haim son of Copel Cojocariu with Ides daughter  of Saia Harabagiu. The names in the Romanian civil records do not always fit with what descendants may know.  If interested in prior to 1915 you can contact me privately.

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY

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