Seeking information on my Greenberg Ancestry from Herzta Dorohoi #romania


Hi All
I have some information on my Greenberg ancestors but have been unable to make any connection with descendants.  I am seeking any information on a Brana Greenberg daughter of Chaim and Pearl. She was married twice. First husband was Luis Rentzler and second was Zelic or Zelinger. Seeking any and all information on her and her descendants. I don't know what happened to her other then that she was from Hertza Dorohoi. There is also a sibling Joseph who died in the shoa. Joseph had a daughter Eva Schwartz. The only information that I have on her is that at some point she was living in Israel where she died in 1997. I don't have a death record nor do I know if she had any kids. Any help and suggestions would be fantastic.

Sarah Greenberg(USA)

Re: Need copy of record located at LDS library - KLEPFISZ #poland #records


I have a center 5 minutes from my house.  I have been parking close to the building and have been able to sign on to their internet.  The wifi for all  FHC locations is Liahona.  The password for all locations is alma3738.  This is found easily with an online search.
You have to sign into after you connect to their wifi.  Don't do what I did the first time by signing in at home and then driving over to the FHC to use the internet.  That does not work to allow you to see the records.
A bonus I recently discovered is that if you don't close your page after being at the FHC and you live relatively close, then the access to their hidden records is still available once you leave their property and hook up to another wifi  You just have to continue to use their website.

Marlise Gross
Cherry Hill, New Jersey

Re: We believe we are related, but DNA doesn't show connection... ??? KLEPFISZ #poland #warsaw #dna

Isabel Cymerman

Perhaps you are also connected to the poet Irina KLEPFISZ, of, I think New York.

Isabel Cymerman
Southbury, CT


Translation needed: Polish script to English and Russian Cyrillic Script to English - KLEPFISZ #translation #warsaw

Elizabeth Jackson

Attached are two records:  a birth record and a marriage record for my great aunt Krajndla Frymet Klepfisz.  I am seeking as complete a translation as possible,  I believe the birth record is in Polish, but I think the marriage record is in Cyrillic Russian.

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated!

Elizabeth Jackson
Michigan, USA

Re: Barysaw Belarus Jewish Records #belarus #records

I’d consider it.

Harold Love
Pittsburgh, PA

How to display details of documents on the Danzig database #danzig #records


Hereafter details present on the Danzig database of which I would like to know more:
Question 1) how will I be able to display rhe contents of the various volumes listed?

Question 2)
I know that Bertha HIRSCH was the wife of Jacob LEVIN (under Napoleontic laws family name changed to PERLBACH). How would  the spouse's name have been? Yacov ben ...?

Ron Peeters(NL)

Re: surname translation #yiddish #ukraine #names #russia


Benin is an abbreviated variant of Benjamin, appears already in Beider's Dictionaly of Jewish Surnames in the Russian Empire, it can also be a given name.

Seth Jacobson

Re: Balassagyarmat street names/maps #hungary

Peter Absolon

Hi Emma,

I don't know much details about Balassagyarmat's individual street names. I'm however sending you the 1848 town map, the only one I have.
Please try to get in touch with Viktor Bauer, a local guy who originally provided this map. I'm sure he would be able to tell you more.

Peter Absolon

Re: Wolk family of Lithuania #lithuania

Jill Whitehead

Have you tried different spellings? About 20 years ago I worked with a Carol Volk from London. Volk is quite a common Jewish name in London. In the Polish-Lithuanian lands in the 19th century, they used the Polish language where there was a W but no V. But when such families migrated westwards the W became V.

This happened in my father's family where Serwianski became Serviansky (US), Servian (UK), Server (UK) and Sirvan (US) in UK and US.

Jill Whitehead nee Servian, Surrey, UK

Re: We believe we are related, but DNA doesn't show connection... ??? KLEPFISZ #poland #warsaw #dna

Jill Whitehead

You should always beware small chromosome segments as these often give what is called false positives. There is a reason why most companies only give results above 5cm or more commonly 7cm for each segment. You are more likely to find relations the larger the  size of the individual chromosome segment. I tend to look for those above 20cm and over. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

Re: request for gravestone picture at Mt. Hebron Flushing, NY #photographs

Kenneth Ryesky

When I was teaching at Queens College CUNY, I often walked the 2 blocks to the Main Street rear gate of Mt. Hebron to take volunteer photos.  But now, geography impedes me, but others have accommodated my Find-a-Grave requests following my Aliyah.

Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@... 

GERTZIG, BRODSKY; Yelizavetgrad, Ukraine
IZRAELSON, ARSHENOV; Yevpatoriya, Ukraine (Crimea)

Re: Why Various Spellings of A Family Name #names

Stephen Weinstein

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 07:15 AM, Carl Kaplan wrote:
looking at records for his newly discovered siblings show various spellings of the surname, Hoffort and Hoffart. Given they all lived in NYC, I am curious if anyone has ever heard WHY this happened.  I know this is common, and there are many transliterations of a name from Yiddish, but I have never heard any reasons why various members of the same immediate family chose different spellings.
The correct answer is

 Because each person decided individually how to spell it; there was no need or reason for consistency.

However, I think we should go back to doing it for the following reasons:

1. So that when mail comes addressed to Mr. so-and-so, with only a surname and no given name, we know who should open it.

2. So that genealogy doesn't become so easy that it is no long challenging enough and becomes boring.

3. So that collection agencies won't be able to find and harass the relatives of anyone who didn't pay their credit card bill or other debts.

Stephen Weinstein
Camarillo, California, USA

Re: Translation of document help #germany #translation

Odeda Zlotnick

 Yetche wife of Avraham 164
Yetchi daughter of David 171
Yente wife of Shmuel [Samuel] 188
Yetchi daughter of Shmuel [Samuel] 199
Yetchi daughter of Aharon Klonimus
Yittl wife of Natan 500
Yetchi wife of Yosef 530
Yente wife of Yaakov 563
Yittl wife of David 570
Yetchi daughter of Isaac 676
Yente wife of Peretz 729
Yitta daughter of Wolf 748
Yitchi daughter of Nachum

All the names spelled with "tch" shuold be prononced with "t" and then "ch" (like the "ch" in the German word "Ich".
Since is Itzig is a variant of Isaac, the name I  marked in bold is a good candidate.
Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

Re: Translation of document help #germany #translation


As others have said the abbreviated date stands for the 21st of the first month of Adar. 
It would be very hard to determine if one of the people on this list is Henriette with only the limited information we have. There is a Yetchi daughter of Yitzchak (#676), this could be her if we assume that Itzig was her father's name and was short for Yitzchak, but there's no real reason to conclude this without more information. 
Do you know her husband's name because some of the women are listed as wife of ...? Also, as this list seems to be part of a larger record, is there a reason that you believe Henriette is on this page specifically?
Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD 

Re: Handwriting Help #records


On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 05:22 PM, The Becker's Email wrote:
I used the URL you included and that gave me Ancestry and the original manifest and I was able to zoom in to try to read.  Hinde's contact in the country from whence she came was her mother Blume Pela??sl, Savatzsky St., Wegdarovtz, Russia.  I can't find this town on jewishgen townfinder.  I checked out and their transcription lists other person as Bleyne Pelaunsh.  

Johanna Becker
Newport, RI



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Barysaw Belarus Jewish Records #belarus #records

Michelle Sandler

Is anyone interested in getting a group rate to have Yuri Dorn get
records from the archives for our families from Barysaw (Borisov)
Belarus. I am interested in getting a group together to save money.

Michelle Sandler
Westminster, California

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Re: Triangulating matches #dna


I use a spreadsheet, as it can be sorted easily.  I think I started with a spreadsheet generated through MyHeritage and adapted it for my needs.  In the file, I have one sheet sorted by the name/username and another sorted by chromosome, so I can see matches from MH and FTDNA together.  I also have a sheet listing my strongest DNA matches based on various criteria.  


Ellen Morosoff Pemrick 
Saratoga County, NY


Re: Natan Noteh equivalent to one name? #names


On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 02:22 PM, Howard Nightingale wrote:
Natan and Noteh are separate names
According to Alexander Beider's reference of Yiddish names, it is the same name, from Nosn.
Here is the full list of Yiddish names associated with Nosn:
Nasan, Nason, Natan, Natsko, Neytel, Nosan, Nosel, Nosen, Noson, Nota, Note, Notel, Notka, Notko, Nusen, Nusin, Nuson, Nus, Nusya, Nuta

Mike Vayser

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