Re: Jonava,Lithuania memorial Book 1972 #lithuania


The book has been translated, largely by me, and appears in English on JewishGen at . 

Jerrold Landau, Toronto Canada

Re: Late birth registrations #poland #records

Sally Bruckheimer

Sometimes registering a birth wasn't done because many babies died, so why bother. Male babies could be drafted later, of course, outside the Kingdom of Poland, as young as 8. Things changed over time, and after WW I, hordes of couples i the new Poland married civilly which was previously either very expensive or banned for Jews, and they had 'legitimized' their kids, maybe 10 or more. But births were recorded when a birth record was needed.

A cousin of mine needed a birth record for law school in the US. She had one made in Russia, a delayed birth record, and sent here.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

A Yizkor book excerpt for Passover on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #poland

Bruce Drake

Passover begins tomorrow evening, so it’s fitting to offer this account of the holiday from the Yizkor book of Ciechanowiec, Poland. The rituals — from the cleaning of homes, the sale of any leavened food that is found, and the preparations for the Seder meal — will be familiar to you, but it is enjoyable reading nevertheless. The author remembers a quotation from the Talmud that ““Eating matzo during Pesach is like desire to the bride,” though he wryly adds: “you have to admit that, actually, these two desires are not that similar.”

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel

Nurflus-Grinberg family: FRANCE #france #general

Ccc Ddd

I am trying to find the Nurflus-Grinberg family information.
On, all I can find is about the Nurflus spouse, Grinberg.
I don’t know which is the male and which female.
Grinberg  was born in Warsaw, Poland 14th,Feb 1912.
On the 9th of June,1950, Grinberg received Naturalization in France.
I don’t know if they married in France or Poland
I don’t know which was the family name: Nurflus or Grinberg.
I cannot find anything on Ancestry, JewishGen, Filae, Geneanet nor
anywhere else I have looked.
I have not found them in the Obituaries.
I need some help with this. I don't know where else to look.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thank you in advance!

Re: Late birth registrations #poland #records

Jill Whitehead

In the old country this was done to avoid the Tsar's draft into his army in the Pale of Settlement. My great grandfather's brother Baruch Serwianski (later Barnet Servian or Barnet Silverman in UK and even later Barnet Maxwell in US) was born in Sejny, NE Poland, in Dec 1854 or Jan 1855, but his birth was not registered until 1859.

Migrants were so suspicious of officialdom, that  when my ancestors came to the UK in the 1860s and 1870s (which was after the Polish uprising when the Tsar cracked down) that some of them appeared to deliberately record births on dates that were different to the actual dates. I never knew my grandmother Hannah/Annie Abraham's actual date of birth (she was born and died in Manchester, UK),  as she claimed she was born on 31st October 1875, but the UK official GRO birth records show she was born six months later in 1876, and her school records give another date of birth in between the two.

On another side of the family, some of my grandmother Leah Guttenberg's siblings' GRO official birth records clearly do not match their actual birth records in Hull, UK, as my great grandparents' announcements in the Jewish Chronicle for the boy' births (there were 7 boys and 5 girls) clearly predate their official birth records, although this is only by a few weeks or a couple of months, rather than an extended period. This was during the 1870's also. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

Re: Late birth registrations #poland #records


I've encountered more than a few late (or very late) birth registrations in metrical records for my ancestors in Congress Poland.  My maternal grandmother was registered nine months after her actual birth -- registered on the same day as her sister, who was three years older.  One of my male ancestors in that same line was registered 15 years after his birth.  The registering clerk would acknowledge that the record was late, but generally no explanation was provided.

For males, a late registration was one method of avoiding the draft.

Joel Novis
Springfield, MA US
NOVITSKIY (Kyiv, Vasil'kiv, Ukraine); OLSZTAJN/OHLSTEIN (Łowicz, Łódź, Stryków, Poland); GEIMAN [HYMAN] (Ashmyany, Belarus)

Re: Restoration of Citizenship #germany

David Seldner


not really much is new or different. It is a law now and not only a decree - meaning that you are now legally entitled to obtain German citizenship (if the conditions are met).
This here is from the German ministry of the Interior, in German, but Google can help ...

David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany

Re: My Grandmother JABLONSKI from Pruzani #belarus #russia


"J" in this last name is written in Polish, where it's pronounced as a "yes", not like "jump".  Transliteration of this name from Russian will be spelled as Yablonskiy, Yablonsky for males, or Yablonskaya for females.

Also, is there a possibility that the last name was Yablonovich/Yablunovich?  I know there were some folks with that last name from the same city.

Mike Vayser

Re: Late birth registrations #poland #records

Barbara Ellman

Not all shtetls had an official registrar.  If the town1 didn't have a registrar, it would require travel to the town2 where the official registrar for town1 was. 
Since this effort usually fell to the father who couldn't afford the time to spend doing this, the registration may have taken place when more than one child had to be registered.
Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland

Trying to contact Tropper family which traces back to Engel & Gewirtz families #usa

Neil Rosenstein

Trying to make contact with Rabbi Chaim Tropper, son of Rabbi David
Tropper. Chaim married Vina, daughter of Yoel Engel, son of Beatrice
Engel, daughter of Eleazar (Laser) Chaim Gewirtz, a butcher in
Williamsburg Rodney Street, son of Rabbi Asher Alter Gewirtz.
Neil Rosenstein

Late birth registrations #poland #records

Herbert Lazerow

     Before the 1920s, most births occurred at home. Different jurisdictions had different ways to assure that births were registered, but none was foolproof. Philadelphia required the midwife or doctor to register it, and those lists can be found in the City Archives, but sometimes they forgot to do it.
    Sometimes the lack of registration was caught when the child entered school at age 6.  When my mother requested a passport at age 54, she could not present a birth certificate; the passport office accepted an affidavit from her father of her birth in the U.S., stating the date and city.
Herbert Lazerow
Professor of Law, University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park, San Diego CA 92110 U.S.A.
(619)260-4597 office, (858)453-2388 cell, lazer@...
Author: Mastering Art Law (2d ed. Carolina Academic Press 2020)

Herbert Lazerow
Professor of Law, University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park, San Diego CA 92110
Author: Mastering Art Law (Carolina Academic Press, 2d ed. 2020)

Zelva, Derechin, Slonim 1800s records #belarus #records

arnold friedman


I appreciate of any advice or connections you might have to people or
records in Zelva and local region I have not been able to find any
record or gravesite or any trace of them in Belarus.

I have all my and my wife’s family tree back until at least the early
1800s except for this brick wall in Zelva, Derechin and Slonim area.

From Scottish and US records, I know the following:

SAMUEL COHEN* born abt 1859 Zelva, son of Isaac (farmer) and Gerty
(Chaia Gaile?)
Married abt 1880 to CELIA (Szfreas?) GOLLAND born abt 1861 Zelva,
daughter of Abraham.

Issac abt 1882-5 in Zelva

Annie? Abt 1885
Abraham abt 1890
Others born in Scotland

SOLOMAN (Shlomo Maier) COHEN* born abt 1870, son of Issac (farmer) and Gerty
Married abt 1893 to BESSIE LENZEWITSKI, daughter of Moshe Dovid (farmer) and
Sarah, and maybe she had brothers Gadalie (had children in Slonim) and

Soloman and Bessie Children:
Hannah abt 1895
Dinah 1896 or 1897
Isaac abt 1900 (in Derechin)
Other children afterwards were born in Scotland

Gadalie Lenzewitski wife Rachel Green
Children born in Slonim
Nuchem 1891 or 1892
Chamka (Annie) 1895
Others tbd

All names are from Scottish or US records, so they are modified from
the original.

*Assume Cohen was not their name in Belarus, but maybe they were Kohanim

Again, thank you for any assistance

Arnold Friedman
redwood city, california US
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Unknown language #general #translation


I'm attaching a postcard with text that I cannot identify.

A Chabad Rabbi said it's a little like Yiddish but he was unable to translate the text,

I'd appreciate ANY help with this.

Thank you in advance,
Leonard N. Katz
Great Neck, NY
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MyHeritage Second Annual 24-Hour Genealogy Webinar Marathon

Jan Meisels Allen

MyHeritage with Legacy Family Tree Webinars announced its Second Annual 24-Hour Genealogy webinar marathon on April 8-9, 2021. The entire event is free and open to all. You can pop in for just one or a few of the lectures that most interest you, or challenge yourself to stay tuned in to the entire event. Live Q&As will take place during the lectures and there will be door prizes available as well.


 There are 26 lectures listed by hour according to EDT. You can use this time zone converter  

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Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS  Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

ViewMate translation request - Russian / Hebrew #translation


I've posted two vital records in Russian & Hebrew for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the following address ...



Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.


Terry Weiner

Re: Marriage of Ethel LENNIS #canada #general

Michele Lock

If the wedding announcement in the newspaper was in the past tense, then the wedding most likely took place. That is, if the article is written as 'The bride wore...' and 'So-and-So was the best man', then this indicates that the event had already happened.
On the other hand, I have seen wedding announcements that begin 'The marriage of Sarah B. and Joseph M. will be solemnized this evening' which indicates that the event hadn't happened yet, perhaps because the article was published in a morning edition of a paper.
Back in those days, the woman would have taken the man's surname, so if she several years later was buried under her maiden name, what I suspect is that the couple divorced, probably fairly soon after the wedding, and so the woman went back to using her maiden surname.
You can also follow what happened to the man over the years, to see if he re-married and when. If he re-married before her death, then they must have gotten divorced. Sometimes, if you can obtain a marriage license for the man, it will state if he had been previously married (at least some US licenses show this). Checking to see if the man had children and when, is another way to figure what his marital history was.
Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus

Re: Tracing POLAIN/HENRI/QUENTIN #france #names #records #unitedkingdom


You need to look for the

- marriage record of Alexandrina Palmire Henri/Henry. It should contain her place and date of birth.

- birth record of Alexandrina Palmire Henri/Henry at her place of birth.

- marriage record of Charlotte and Content Joseph Henri. It should contain their places and dates of birth.

- birth record of Charlotte Polain at her place of birth

- birth record of Content Joseph Henri at his place of birth

- marriage record of Alexandre Polain who married Charlotte?


All this records should be online for free on the websites of the relevant archives départementales.

If you don't know the places of birth or marriage you could look at geneaet or filae, but for filae you need to pay.


archives départementales de la Manche




Corinne Iten


Re: "WILLIG" Marriage Record in Wien (Vienna, Austria) #austria-czech #poland #records


Hi Leah, 

I do not know if you are aware that Wanda Pilewski's birth record and her parents marriage record is available on 
Giannis Daropoulos 


Late birth registrations #poland #records

Alex Guri

Hi all,

I've encountered some birth records that were registered years after
the birth had actually happened. Was it not mandatory to register a
birth? Did it cost money to do it? Why not register it in the first
place? and then why suddenly decide to register a few years later?

Many thanks and happy Pesach!
Alex Guri

Mount Zion Cemetery, Maspeth, NY graves to photograph #photographs #usa

Neil Rosenstein

Looking to have photos of the graves of two (husband and wife)
Friedmans buried in Skidler Benevolent Society in Mt Zion.
Neil Rosenstein

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