Several weeks ago (during March) someone mentioned the family name
WEISINGER. Can the poster please resend to me the post. Privately.

Tia.

Yoni Ben-Ari
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Update: The negative comments I wrote was about the book Seed Of Israel: DNA Guide To Tracing Your Jewish Ancestry by Joshua Robbin Marks.
It was from a review at Amazon.
It was not about the book by Israel Pickholtz which is detailed and excellent. 
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Miron is correct that the heads of talmudic schools during that period were referred to as the Gaonim, but it is also a title that is still used today meaning genius and used to honor a well respected and learned Rabbi.
Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD

Hi Mandy,

On your first point, I think this might be the case if the child had died very soon after birth and before the parents were able to register her/him, when living, with a given name.

The identity of the Informant could clarify that.

It would be worth checking whether there was a corresponding contemporary death entry.

Another possibility might be if the parents, whilst having to make the registration within the deadline, had not then decided on a name.

As regards adoption, this might occur if the birth parents were unwilling to name her/him for themselves.

Again, the identity of the Informant could shed some light on that.

I look forward to others' views.

Mike Coleman   London  U.K.

 

 

 

Hello, Rose. 

I've just sent a record and contact info to your e-mail.  Obtained by using Geneanet.org, a French Genealogy website.
According to that record, he was born 1 January 1852.  Married in 1880.  And more.
It's likely you can get much more info from the Contact provided.
Good luck!

Bob Pachner
San Diego, CA

Barry,

Alfred BARTMANN was born in Vienna 1879-10-11 to SCHAPIRA, Rosalie
and BARTMANN, Ignaz.

Alfred BARTMANN married SCHAPIRA, Klara in 1914 in Vienna.
Alfred and Klara (Clara) had at least two children born in Vienna:

Hedwig born 1918-02-11
Fritz born 1923-10-16

Info found by searching BARTMANN at:
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/all/

Hope this helps,

Sherri Bobish

I retract my original translation. Jacob Shayzaf's translation is correct. 
The name is Rasha and the date is Rosh Chodesh Sivan 5616.
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I would like to make contact with descendants of Abraham Sultan who died in Moldova during the 1820's.

Thanks,

Herbert Danziger

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2nd try

the military records are telling us : 


Sso the 2 possibles cities are Millieres and Vesly if we take the assumptions that the "Le Noel" family did not move too much

Milieres  Millières, 1853-1862, 3E 328/6 - Visionneuse - Archives départementales de la Manche (archives-manche.fr) 
(see item 50 for the list of birth/death/mariage @ 1854) : negative

Vesly : Vesly, 1853-1862, 3E 629/6 - Visionneuse - Archives départementales de la Manche (archives-manche.fr)
(see item 64) : negative as well 

:(

Just in case : Placide Lenoël born in 1885 is recorded here : 
Millières, 1883-1892, 3E 328/9 - Visionneuse - Archives départementales de la Manche (archives-manche.fr)
(see item 59)

I am sorry, I think we really need the city of birth to get the official act


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David CHOUKROUN

david.choukroun@...
FRANCE

CHOUKROUN ATTALI ATLANI

Dear Rose, 

Archives Départementales 76 (archivesdepartementales76.net)
will give you the birth for Jan 1854 @ Rouen (item 10 or 11) : but nobody recorded with this name at my first quick reading

To my knowledge, La Manche is a french department, with Saint-Lô as main city.  
Manche (département) — Wikipédia (wikipedia.org)

Without the city, it is difficult to find the right register : 
Rechercher - Registres paroissiaux et d'état civil - Archives de la Manche (archives-manche.fr)
(you can see on the left side all the possible cities... more than 100...)



As I see (Geneanet) the following information: 

• Born 17 January 1854 - Manche, France
• Deceased 17 February 1939 - Auckland, New Zealand, aged 85 years old

I suggest to get the death act in NZ first to get the exact city of birth in France


Kind regards from Paris
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david.choukroun@...
FRANCE

CHOUKROUN ATTALI ATLANI

Hi Jeff, 

I am a professional translator for German-to-English translation and I specialize in history, including Jewish history. I would love to take a look at the article.  

Any other JewishGeners looking for a translator should also feel free to call or email. 

Sincerely, 
Abby Huber 

I would like to make contact with descendants of ABRAHAM SULTAN who died in Moldova during the 1820's.

Herbert Danziger
hkdcfd@...

First line illegible.
The modest woman 2-3 illegible words
Rashe daughter of mo"h Yehoshua z"l
Emdin died Wednesday 
Rosh chodes Sivan 5616
May his soul bound in the bond of life

1 Sivan 5616 was Wednesday from sunset 12-May 1895 to sunset 13-May1895

mo"h - morenu harav, our teacher the rabbi, used as a title to people with religious law education.
z"l - zichrono livracha, bless his memory

Jacob Shayzaf
Israel

Try to find his passenger manifest to NY

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VM92857 and VM928578 is the same.

n Russian:

 

#133

Состоялось в городе Коло 18-го декабря 1889 года в 11 часов утра.  Явился Жеремия (возможно) Хoбно, пекарь, 36-и лет, житель города Турека, временно проживающий в городе Коло, в присутстсвии свидетелей Абрама Паталевского, 44-х лет и Герша Наймана, 58-и лет, оба религиозные служители, жителей города Коло и предъявили нам младенца -мальчика, объявляя, что он родился в здешнем городе (не ясно) 11-го декабря текущего года в 10 часов вечера от законной жены Таубы, урожденной Злотницкой, 38-и лет.  Младенцу этому при обрезании дано имя Шляма.  Акт сей по прочтении ими и нами подписан. Объявляющий заявил, что он писать не умеет.

Абрам Паталевский

Герт Найман

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Translated into English:

 

# 133

It took place in the city of Kolo on December 18, 1889 at 11 o'clock in the morning. Appeared Jeremiah (possibly) Khobno, a baker, 36 years old, a resident of the city of Turek, temporarily residing in the city of Kolo, in the presence of witnesses Abram Patalevsky, 44 years old, and Gersh Naiman, 58 years old, both religious clerks, residents of the city of Kolo and showed us a baby boy, announcing that he was born in the local city (not clear) on December 11 of this year at 10 pm from the legal wife Tauba, nee Zlotnitskaya, 38 years old. When circumcised, this baby was given the name Shlyama. After reading this act, they and we signed it. The announcer declared that he could not write.

 

Abram Patalevsky

 

Gersh Nyman

 

Containing acts of civil status Signature

 

In Russian:

 

#16

Состоялось в городе Коло 20-го февраля 1891 года в 11 часов утра.  Явился Ицек Рубин, 28-и лет, торговец и Герш Найман, 63-х лет, религиозный служитель, жители города Коло и объявили, что вчера, в 7 часов вечера умер Жеремия (возможно) Хобно, 37-и лет, булочник, (не ясно), сын Шлямы и Зельды, урожденной Шамкантор (возможно), жители города Турека, временно проживающие в городе Коло.  По настоящему удостоверяю о кончине  Жеремия (возможно) Хобно.  Акт сей по прочтении ими и нами подписан.

 

Ицек Рубин

Герт Найман

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Translated into English:

 #16

It took place in the city of Kolo on February 20, 1891 at 11 o'clock in the morning. Itsek Rubin, 28 years old, a merchant and Gersh Naiman, 63 years old, a religious minister, residents of the city of Kolo appeared and announced that Jeremiah (possibly) Hobno, 37 years old, a baker, had died yesterday, at 7 p.m. not clear), the son of Shlyama and Zelda, nee Shamkantor (possibly), residents of the city of Turek, temporarily living in the city of Kolo. I truly certify the death of Jeremiah (possibly) Hobno. After reading this act, they and we signed it.

Itsek Rubin

Gert Nyman

Containing acts of civil status Signature

Translated by Michael Ryabinky
Columbus, OH

Erica: I'm also interested. Others will be far more knowledgeable but I have the understanding that when Poland was absorbed into Russia and the Austro-Hungarian Empire before reacquiring statehood after WW1, things get a little complicated. I was informed that Poland wasn't very interested that my grandfather was born in Krakow in 1884, but the Austrians weren't interested either in citizens born in parts of the empire that disappeared in 1919! I did complete a quick survey for one of the firms claiming to offer assistance and they got back saying no-go. They may have been mistaken but at least it was an honest reply because my greater fear was they would take money when there was no chance of success. I think the EU passport thing has some appeal, but I also like the idea of reclaiming something that was taken away from my family, even if in practical terms it doesn't make any real difference to my life

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London, UK

Hello all and Happy Passover

I’m stuck at a dead end and hopefully I can get some suggestions here. I never knew my grandparents and my mother never spoke much about their roots, I am trying to find my maternal grandfather’s origins, his name was Morris Friedman, born c. 1880 in “Russia-Poland” and emigrated to the States (Cleveland Ohio) circa 1900. On his marriage certificate it’s written that his parents were Harry Friedman and Anna Dekhtar. He died in August 1925. I found his headstone and his Hebrew name was Moshe. I’ve looked scrupulously at the jewishgen databases in Poland Belarus and Lithuania but I can’t seem to find any trace of him. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Anne Bagon Steiner
Arad, Israel
researching Bokshitsky (Bakshikis), Kirschner, Bagon, Sandler, Friedman, Klein, Dekhtar