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Re: Luzow? - Poland town name #poland

Max Heffler
 

I found a Jezow near there in case it was a misread of a few letters,

 

Max Heffler

Houston, TX

 

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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Luzow? - Poland town name #poland

 

I checked around Pabianice and there are no towns with that name near by. There is a Lukow near the Belarus border, where many Jews were transported to during the 2nd WW.
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Angel Kosfiszer

Richardson, Texas


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Max Heffler
Houston, TX
max@...
HEFFLER(Ukraine)/TIRAS(Poland)/WASSEMAN(Lithuania)/MOORE(Poland)/ZLOT(Lithuania)
GORENSTEIN(Ukraine)/FLEISCHMAN(Latvia)/GOLDEN(Lithuania)


Re: Does DNA prove that Jews are a race? #dna

Robert Hanna
 

I am 100% Ashkenazi.  On any form that asks for race, I check other and write in "Semitic."  This is probably going to start a whole new discussion on this topic but, what the heck.

Robert Hanna
NYC

CHANAN, HANAN, BLUMENBLAT (Poland)
KARASIK, THOMASHOW, COHEN (Babruysk, Belarus)
RUBINSTEIN, BUNDEROFF, PASTILNIK, NEMOYTEN, DISKIN (Minsk, Belarus)


Re: Does DNA prove that Jews are a race? #dna

Adam Cherson
 

The Ancestry DNA results show that there is a sub-population of Jews (Ashkenazim) who share certain identifiable genotypical patterns. I would go one step further to say that these genotypical patterns include a commonly shared Near Eastern ancestry (however, it is important to note that this Near Eastern ancestry is not the only phylogeographic ancestry shared by Ashkenazim). Since no population is 100% homogeneous genetically, the facts presented by DNA evidence don't mesh well with socio-political concepts such as race, nationality, and minority status-- when speaking about genetic genealogy I avoid any of these terms.

--Adam Cherson


How to recreate previously found Jewishgen census record UK 1851 #records

r.peeters
 

Following record found before. Today accessing Unified Search : on town name Islington not found; on town name London 1 found different person ID 22406; UK census 9 records found all from Leeds; tried  JCR files past week,and today again no succes. 
What did I do wrong?
 Ron Peeters (NL)


Re: JRI Poland Success with JRI surname list! Wladyslawow = Wloclawek? #poland

Jill Whitehead
 

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 07:24 AM, J.R. Silver wrote:
Wladyslawow was in my ancestral area of Suwalki, NE Poland during 19th century, but it went into Lithuania in 1919 after WW1 Peace settlement.
Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Re: Freud's neighbor #austria-czech

Jill Whitehead
 

Freud lived in an apartment block in Vienna which I have visited when on holiday about 10 years ago. His home is a tourist attraction which is online. From memory, there is a fair bit of info about his neighbours in the guide books to his home. But you can also find the Vienna phone directories on Ancestry, and you could try looking these up. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Re: Paolono/Paolona and Lita, Russia? #russia #belarus

Jill Whitehead
 

Lita is in a border area. It is now part of Belarus (since 1945) but has also been part of Lithuania (1918-1945) and also Suwalki gubernia in Poland in the19th century and up to WW1. My late cousin's middle name was Lita, as some of the family came from there when it was part of Suwalki.  

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Re: Freud's neighbor #austria-czech

Andreas Schwab
 

Yes, indeed.
According to Genteam.eu, Max Gans Schiller, born 9 Feb. 1853 Lobositz, Leitmeritz, died on 4 Oct 1910 in Vienna. He is buried in the Central Cemetery, gate T1, 
group 053B, row 14, tomb no 22. He was living at Berggasse 8 in the 9th borough.
https://www.genteam.eu/index.php?option=com_db53&id=397034&limitstart=0&n=gans&v=max&view=detail&lang=en

https://www.genteam.eu/index.php?option=com_friedhof_ikg&id=104284&limitstart=0&view=detail&lang=en
(you have first to register for free and log in)

Freud was living at Berggasse 19, about a block away.
https://www.freud-museum.at/en/

For more details you can request a registration record at the City of Vienna. Details are explained here:

https://www.wien.gv.at/english/e-government/culture/archives/research/residence-registration-records.html

There is an online request form in English.
I did not find an entry for Eugenie.

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Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada


Re: Does DNA prove that Jews are a race? #dna

rroth@...
 

Protections? I am not clear on what those might be.
Given the history of the 20th century, I am not about to fill in a box marked "race" on any form.
I have always lived in the US and have felt fairly safe here, but I understand so did our people in Germany once.

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Robert Roth
Kingston, NY
rroth@...


Re: Luzow? - Poland town name #poland

kosfiszer8@...
 

I checked around Pabianice and there are no towns with that name near by. There is a Lukow near the Belarus border, where many Jews were transported to during the 2nd WW.
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Angel Kosfiszer

Richardson, Texas


Re: Freud's neighbor #austria-czech

alexander.burstein@...
 

Hi Rick,

Those things can be check in the "Adoph Lehmann's allgemeiner Wohnungs-Anzeiger (Adoph Lehmann's general appartment directory) at https://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/wbrobv/periodical/titleinfo/5311
I checked 1908 (https://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/wbrobv/periodical/titleinfo/229444), Volume 2 for you. Page 377 you find Max Gans-Schiller, however, it is not clear if this is the address of an appartment, his shop, or both. Anyway the address is Porzellangasse 16 which is 300m away from Berggasse 19 where Sigmund Freud lived. It could be that somebody mixed "near to the house of Dr. Freud" with "in the house of Dr. Freud. Or the given address was just the shop and the Glas-Schiller family did not want to make their private address public.

Kindest regards,

Alexander Burstein BA
Historian


Re: Does DNA prove that Jews are a race? #dna

Steven Usdansky
 

My response to the race question is "Human"

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Steven Usdansky
usdanskys@...
researching Usdansky, Turetzky, Sinienski, Sigler, Namenwirth


Re: Surname query Romania/Hungary #romania #hungary

Cheryl
 

My maiden name is Hantz and I was told that it could have been spelled Hanz. My GG family was from Hungary/Czechoslovakia. My family is Jewish and we always thought that our last name sounded German and not Hungarian. I heard stories that my Great Grandfather's family may have originally been from Austria. I have hit so many road blocks trying to find info on this side of my family. Good luck with your search.

Cheryl Hantz-Tanenbaum
Florida


Origin of the word 'Peruvian' to describe jewws on the doamond nad goldfields #southafrica #general

geraldine.auerbach@...
 

I am wondering is anyone knows the origin of the term 'Peruvian' used by other Jews and those outside the community to describe in a derogatory way some of the Jews newly arrived on the diamond of goldfields in South Africa at the turn of the last century 1870 – 1930? Some have suggested it was short for a ‘Polish and Russian Union – a club that originated in Kimberley. But I don’t know of any refence to such a club or union. Has anyone any ideas?

Geraldine Auerbach


Re: Paolono/Paolona and Lita, Russia? #russia #belarus

pathetiq1@...
 

Hi Amy, 

According to his declaration, Joseph sailed from Trieste and arrived in may 1908.  His real surname was given as Gorenzivit.
There is a Josef Gorencziwitt  (b.1885) that sailed from Trieste in May1909 (not 1908). His destination was nyc to a friend named Sorin and his contact in Russia was his father Aron. 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXBQ-528

The problem is that this man was born in Zhitomir and not Paolona (maybe he meant Poland?), and his last residence was a place called Solomios/Solomiec/Soloniec(?). Perhaps it was this place
https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1052957

Regarding Lita (Sadie's birthplace) it may be Lida, as you write,  or perhaps Litin, a place close to Zhitomir. 
https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1044884

--
Giannis Daropoulos 

Greece


Searching for Marriage certificate Israel Jacker to Beile Prager #records #galicia

Belinda Dishon
 

Looking for Gologary/Gologory Marriage certificate from 26.9.1906 L46, Document from the 1st Volume, page 193, number 10 

This information was
found through JRI-Poland and then AGAD (Fond 300 AGAD Archives). The details are in my Grandmother's birth record on the Zloczow PSA AGAD Births 1905-1908, 10-15 Marriages 1898-1912 Deaths 1904-1914 AKTA 69 Klara. Her father Israel/Jsrael Jacker (Tarnopol Wojewodztwo) & the document details are listed in her father's details.

I have tried name and town searches but it has been unsuccessful so far. Can anyone suggest where I might find this document please?

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Belinda Dishon
Melbourne Australia
bdishon1@...
PECZENIK JACKER PRAGER KATZ KURZER


Re: Paolono/Paolona and Lita, Russia? #russia #belarus

Alan Shuchat
 

There is a town in Ukraine called Polonne. Lita is Lithuania.
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Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


Re: NYC Cemeteries - Offering Mt Hebron #photographs #usa

David Lewin
 

When there is no snow you can use some tracing paper and a soft lead
pencil. you cover the sheet as evenly as possible with the
lead. The sharp edges of the inscription letters will stand out more
than the background.

This is a technique learned from tracing heraldic inscriptions in old churches

David Lewin
London


At 14:26 02/04/2021, David Jacobowitz wrote:
I am going to write to Allan with a substantial list of graves to
photograph -- and a check.

I saw a useful hint for getting inscriptions when there is snow on
the ground. Smear some snow over the inscription and scrape away the
surface. The letters will be more legible in white. The snow will
melt and clean the crevices.

David Jacobowitz


Re: Does DNA prove that Jews are a race? #dna

JoAnne Goldberg
 

Race is an artificial construct, though obviously many people have a
strong ethnic identity.

Vis a vis our endogamous population: you can search "are Jews white?" to
get a whole range of opinions. My own observation/experience as a
lifelong resident of the United States: POC see most Jews as white;
white people with origins in northern Europe/UK -- ie most "white"
Americans -- see Jews are "other" -- not quite white, not POC. I'd be
interested to know if Jews living in other countries have had similar
experiences.

When I got my census form a year ago, I didn't hesitate to mark my race
as "other" and write in "Jewish." I was fascinated to learn that most of
my Jewish friends -- without any of us discussing it -- had done
something similar! No one seemed to feel comfortable checking any of the
standard race boxes.

JoAnne
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JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535
BLOCH, SEGAL, FRIDMAN, KAMINSKY, PLOTNIK/KIN -- LIthuania
GOLDSCHMIDT, HAMMERSCHLAG,HEILBRUNN, REIS(S), EDELMUTH, ROTHSCHILD, SPEI(Y)ER -- Hesse, Germany
COHEN, KAMP, HARFF, FLECK, FRÖHLICH, HAUSMANN,  DANIEL  -- Rhineland, Germany

 


Help in translating birth record #translation #poland

Belinda Dishon
 

hi thank you for any help offered. I need help translating the in between bits of this birth record. I have successfully worked out most of the record however it is severl words in the part that has me stumped.
I believe the beginning of this part of a birth record says 'Beile Jacker nee Prager from Snowicz'. Then there are several words I can't make out??? Followed by '??? daughter of Leib and Sary/Sara? Prager from ??? (possibly Remizowce?) and the last few words are challenging.



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Belinda Dishon
Melbourne Australia
bdishon1@...
PECZENIK JACKER PRAGER KATZ KURZER

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