Why Did Jews Marry Christians? #general

Cliff Karchmer

Hello.  A colleague with a Jewish ancestor told me she heard that her Jewish grandmother from Lvov married a Christian (Russian Orthodox) to preserve wealthy family assets.  Could that have been a legitimate reason for intermarriage in the 19th century?  If so, what were the advantages that could compel a Jew to protect assets in such an extreme way?  thanks for your advice. Feel free to reply to me directly:  ckarchmer@...
Cliff Karchmer

JewishGen Talks: What You Need to Know About Jewish Given Names #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll

We invite you to attend the next presentation in our series of JewishGen Talks webinars:
What Jewish Genealogists Need to Know about Jewish Given Names
Speaker: Dr. Sallyann Amdur Sack 
Tuesday, April 13, 2021 @ 2:00 PM Eastern Time
Registration is free with a suggested donation.
About the Talk
All genealogy research starts with names. Though that statement seems simple enough, in the world of our ancestors, names and the issues governing them, could be quite complex. Among other topics, this talk will cover how Jews got their names, what names were chosen, amuletic names, diminutives and spelling, and what happened to names after emigration from Eastern and Central Europe. A case study will demonstrate how understanding all of the above demolished a long-standing brick wall and carried the Amdur family tree back to the early 1700s.
About the Speaker
Founding chair of the International Institute for Jewish Genealogy; past president of IAJGS and recipient of its Lifetime Achievement Award; editor and co-owner of AVOTAYNU the International Review of Jewish Genealogy; founder of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington, author or co-author of seven genealogy books; chair or co-chair of seven IAJGS conferences.
Registration is free with a suggested donation.
Please click here to register now! After registering, you will receive a confirmation email about how to join the webinar.
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Re: Does DNA prove that Jews are a race? #dna

Erika Gottfried

"By Jewish law, tradition and practice, a Jew is a Jew is a Jew, whether their nearer relations lived in Ethiopia or China or Brooklyn or Aleppo.  We are all one people (Yes, there are distinctions, divisions, biases and social advantages / disadvantages within the Jewish world but for our purposes I'm just addressing whether someone is or isn't a Jew.) “  
Like everything else in this extended discussion, this is more slippery and less simple than it seems.  Who decides what is Jewish law, tradition and practice? The complexity of this question is well-illustrated by some of the problems encountered by Ethiopian immigrants to Israel, who certainly saw themselves as Jews, but whose claims to this identity were rejected by state religious authorities in many cases.   A good examination of this particular story (as well as a pretty wrenching personal narrative) is a documentary called “400 Miles” ( ).
Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey

Yom Hashoah Global Commemoration #education #announcements

Eli Rabinowitz


Yom HaShoah 2021 Global Commemoration

7 April 2021
The WE ARE HERE! Foundation and our partners HAMEC are proud to present a live streamed event for Yom HaShoah.
The “Yom HaShoah Global Commemoration,” features students and educators from nine schools in six countries - US, South Africa, Australia, Moldova, Bulgaria and Russia. 
Holocaust survivors presenting testimony of experiences include Miriam Lichterman and HAMEC speakers Daniel Goldsmith and Ruth Hartz.
Students present their perspectives of what this legacy means to them!
We present the brand new recording of Zog Nit Keynmol in Yiddish from Sholem Aleichem College of Melbourne, Australia.
Special thanks to:
Jewish Partisans’ Educational Foundation, San Francisco, USA
World ORT, London, USA
The event will be available on YouTube from Thursday, April 8th at 11pm AEST, 9pm WST, 2pm in London, 9am EDT, and 6am PST.
Maximise video to Full Screen.
No pre registration is required.
Updated news of our Global Yom HaShoah program can also be found on our WE ARE HERE! Foundation website:
Sholem Aleichem College's new Yiddish version:
Thank you and regards
Eli Rabinowitz
CEO WE ARE HERE! Foundation
e. eli@...

Re: pronounciation of name #names #poland


Sheryl:  J is pronounced as Y,  and W is pronounced as V. 
This is on

Pronunciation Guide

c = ts
ch,h = kh
ć,cz,ci = ch
ś,sz,si = sh
ż,zi,rz = zh
ą = om, on
ę = em, en
j = y
dz = j
ł = w
w = v

David Rosen
Boston MA

On 4/7/2021 8:35 AM, Sheryl Prenzlau wrote:
How would one pronounce Wajsman from old Polish records? Waxman or Weissman? 
Sheryl Prenzlau

Re: Does DNA prove that Jews are a race? #dna

Sarah L Meyer

Even taking into consideration the fact that we are not a definable subspecies biologically - and neither are Blacks or Latino/as or Asians - a much kinder term than race, the DNA can't bring into consideration conversion INTO Judaism and the halachic considerations.   So we have a AJ mother who marries a Jewish man who went through an Orthodox conversion (or vice-versa), their children are fully Jewish halachically but DNA will show only 50% AJ.   Furthermore some of us are Sephardic or Mizrachi- but many of us do have some evidence in our DNA of something other than AJ.   We are an ethnic minority - and while I answer caucasian for race, I do put Jewish for ethnicity.

Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

Re: Genealogy in Belgium #general


If you use I see many Bochner names all listed in the Antwerp Foreign Register, born in Poland. Just click on the first name listed and then go through all the rest using the "Next Result" button. There are several Chaim (possibly Herman), and one Hermann death record listed (died in France). 

Deborah Shindell
Trumbull, CT
researching: Beserglik, Lederhendler, Goldberg (all in Poland) and Szmukler (Ukraine)

Re: pronounciation of name #names #poland

Odeda Zlotnick

Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

Vienna Austria genealogist #austria-czech

Lynn Weisberg

-- Does anyone know a genealogist in Vienna, Austria?
I am searching for members of the Morgenstern and Zeiger family
Lynn Weisberg
Baltimore, Maryland

Re: Birth record from The Netherlands #records


Neilan, on the website that Ron Peeters mentioned, it is stated that Birth records will only be added after 100 years. I could not find it yet. On this website (sorry, in Dutch) you can ask for a copy of the not yet published certificate.    ]

You are looking for a Geboorteakte.

However, it is also possible that she is not registered at all, because she was born on a ship in transit. I mean, are you sure that somebody bothered to go to the Town Hall and register the baby? Good luck, Sylvia Stawski


Re: Copying Hebrew text from a PDF into a Translation tool - OCR (Optical Character Recognition) Help Request #general


Hi All,
Another  solution: Open the PDF in Adobe Acrobat Reader (a free program) and under the "File" menu - "save as text"
Meir Razy
Kisfajn / Sfard / Rothenberg / Ruttenberg / Rojtenberg in Rovno,Volhynia
Ross in Dubno,Volhynia

Re: Tomorrow's Forum for Dialogue Zoom: Krakow Holocaust Survivor Tells Her Story #announcements #holocaust

Mark Halpern

All those who were part of the Forum's program yesterday should have received a follow up email with links to many sites of interest to Janet Applefield's story. The part of that email is reproduced below. 

Mark Halpern

For those of you who would like to read more about Janet Applefield's history, you can consult Janet's personal website and her biography on Facing History and Ourselves webpage. The most recent chapter in Janet's relationship with Poland is described in the article in the Boston Globe: her meeting with Karolina Panz, a scholar and activist from Nowy Targ, and Janet's visits to Poland. Karolina published an academic paper on the issue of post-war anti-Jewish violence in Podhale region that Janet and other survivors were exposed to. You can also refer to Lena Kuchler-Silberman's book My Hundred Children describing her role in taking care of Jewish orphans after the Second World War. 

On 2021-04-07 8:01 am, tony allan wrote:

Fascinating talk but does anyone know the book that was mentioned.
Tony Allan

Re: pronounciation of name #names #poland

Mark Stone

For: Sheryl Prenzlau or anyone who is interested.


Wajman, maybe I am wrong without the s, is family, probably from Radom or Warsaw.


Any interest!


Mark Paul Stone (Lichtenstein)


P.S. I do not know the pronounciation!


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Subject: [] pronounciation of name #names #poland


How would one pronounce Wajsman from old Polish records? Waxman or Weissman? 
Sheryl Prenzlau

pronounciation of name #names #poland

Sheryl Prenzlau

How would one pronounce Wajsman from old Polish records? Waxman or Weissman? 
Sheryl Prenzlau

Geographic references from 1945, near Mizoch, Warsaw, Treblinka. #yizkorbooks #warsaw #poland #ukraine

Laurence Broun

I am providing a map to accompany the translation of an essay in the Yizkor Book of Mizoch about the story of a partisan. Several of the geographic references are obscure, some being small hamlets, and others just too much of a leap to find on current Polish and Ukrainian maps from the translated Yiddish name. If anyone is familiar with these towns, hamlets, or neighborhoods, you help would be appreciated.
  1. Oyezdtse, a town with a Czech population … when it became dangerous to go through Aynsbrukh near Mitlen. These three places are near Mizoch (then Poland, present day Ukraine.)
  2. Tseglov. Is it present day Tsehiv? (It is in proximity of Kovel.)
  3. Podlias territory (near Lublin region. )
  4. Radzim (near Siedlce, Sokolov Podlaski  and Treblinka.)
  5. The hamlet Karchov,   (20 km from Sokolov)
  6. Yablone. (Is it Jabłoń  ?)
  7. Lionke  (by Warsaw.)
  8. Siski, on the Vistula river, probably an area in Warsaw, the front line January 1945.
Larry (Itzik Leib) Broun
Washington, DC | USA
e-mail: Laurencebroun@...

Re: Copying Hebrew text from a PDF into a Translation tool - OCR (Optical Character Recognition) Help Request #general


I think that Gary Binetter’s solution is a very practical solution. 

However, I tested it on my psalm book , with printed characters. The Hebrew is read with a medium accuracy of about 80%. This causes the translation to be very poor, almost illegible. 

Depending upon the original document quality, the result is unpredictable, but very much worth trying. 

If we are dealing with a manuscript, it’s a lost game.

Daniel Ewenczyk
Paris, France
Searching Evenchi(c)k, Ewenczyk (Minsk, Belarus) / Receptor, Retzepter (Luboml, Ukraine).

Re: Tomorrow's Forum for Dialogue Zoom: Krakow Holocaust Survivor Tells Her Story #announcements #holocaust

tony allan

Fascinating talk but does anyone know the book that was mentioned.
Tony Allan

cemetery photos #photographs #poland

ירוחם צבי קינסטליך

hello everybody.i am planning a trip to poland.i want to volunteer by take photos from cemetery's.with who in Jewish gen I have to talk about it?
thanks a lot

Re: Seeking Norwegian birth record for Joseph Albert KOLIN #records


I also tried to search in records of births in Flekkefjord and elsewhere in Norway, without any success for the name Kolin. I have also looked up the name Kolin in Oskar Mendelsohn's exhaustive two-volume compilation of Jewish history in Norway, where he mentioned and listed every known Jewish person who lived in Norway up to the dates of publication (1969 and 1986), and the name Kolin does not appear. This might indicate that he and his family used a different surname. Where did you get your information about his name and year and place of birth?

Shari Nilsen, Oslo

Re: Seeking Norwegian birth record for Joseph Albert KOLIN #records


I tried a search at the National Archive of Norway, but no success:

Kind regards,
Rolf Cohn,
Oslo, Norway

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