help reading Ukraine letter #translation #ukraine

David Syner

received a Letter back from State Archives of Dnipropetrovsk Region. But for some reason this time. Google translate isn't able to let me know what it says in English.
Any help!?

David Syner
Los Angeles, CA


Family website

SINER / ZINNER / ZINER New YorkBialystok

SCHMALTZ / SCHMALZ/SZMALZ New York, Luna, Grodno, Stoll, Rudman, Carbella ;Russia ( Grodno is now Hrodna, Belarus ) SCHULTZ TENN, AVES, Russia  POUSNER / POSNER, New York,Russia BERLIN Detroit BELENKY / BIELINKA / BELLINSKY Libau, Latvia , Mohilew  NEWMAN Detroit NEIMAN / NUONAW/ PENICA / PENITZ Krasosielc, Poland, Warshaw  MELTZERDetroit, Katrinslove or Poltavia or Gatrinslove (sp), Russia, or Yekahnislaw or Ekaterinoslau (Ekaterinoslav is now Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine) DEITCH, Russia   RACHATAN/RACHIDSON /RUSICHAU / RUSICHAN / KrasechanDwinsk,Russia( Dwinsk is Daugavpils, Latvia) BELIAK/ BIELAK / BELAK Toronta, CanadaBreslaw, Slobotka,  Riga, Dwinsk

Re: Koschmin, Posen, Prussia, Germany-Is there a group or site that specializes in this town? #germany #poland


Yes there is. Look to a project on Geni that is for Krotoschin or Krotoszyn for more information. 

Dan Brockman
JewishGen member 50584
622 Shoreline Road
Barrington, IL

Re: conscription #lithuania


My name is Tim Sherrod.
My father, John Sherrod (aka Jake Schatz) had seven uncles. They all changed
their names and one was Kotler.
 They all came from Postov (Pastavy). Please see the attached family history
for more information.
Feel free to contact me. We are probably cousins.

I can be reached by phone at 970-420-2415 or email at tsherrod001@....

Headstone Translation #translation

Laurie Sosna

I'm hoping someone can help with a translation for the Hebrew on this gravestone.

Thank you,
Laurie Sosna
San Francisco, CA

Re: Why Did Jews Marry Christians? #general

Jules Levin


On 4/8/2021 12:41 PM, Sarah L Meyer wrote:
In the 19th century Jews married Christians either for marriage or to
protect their family from antisemitism or for economic reasons - to
get a "good" job, enter college, etc.

A granduncle born in St. Petersburg c. 1880, married an Irish girl in
Chicago around 1902.  The family was devastated.  But they were
consoled by a little bundle of joy arriving about 6 or 7 months after
the wedding.  (This was found by researchers thru Jewishgen; the
generations of my family coming after that date never knew about it.) 
  Another example: *Oscar Venceslas De Lubicz-Milosz*, 1877–1939),
French poet, mystical writer, and diplomat. Milosz, who was born in
Chereya, Belorussia to a Lithuanian nobleman and the baptized daughter
of a Warsaw Hebrew tIeacher....
In the introduction to his poetry in Lithuanian I read that his father a
Polish cavalry officer in the Russian service, rode through  a village,
and his eyes met the eyes of a beautiful Jewish maiden. He swept her off
her feet and rode off with her.  Let us not forget eros as a motivation
for intermarriage!

Jules Levin

Los Angeles

Re: Replying in private - no need to publish your email #guidelines


If I think anything I say may have wider usefulness, I will continue to share publicly.  I'm sure moderators can determine if I am mistaken.
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Assistance Needed to translate the Hebrew on Family Gravestones #translation

Aimee Smythe

I am interested in getting your  help to  translate the Hebrew on these family gravestones . Ancestors  are thought to be from Lemberg, Austria emigrating to US in 1880s, buried in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Thank you,
Amelia Bartel Smythe
Tucson, Arizona

Looking for Family of Rut Sokol - Brooklyn NY #usa

Steven Granek

I am trying to locate relatives of a Rut (Ruth?) Sokol who lived (by her Yad Vashem testimonies) in Brooklyn NY in 1993. Rut is/was my newly discovered 2nd cousin from a part of my family whose existence I am just uncovering. Her father was Daniel Ecksztajn and grandmother Freyda Eksztajn (nee Orum), the latter my Great Aunt (who no one ever had told me about). While Damiel and Freyda apparently dies in the Holocaust, Rut apparently made it to the US and was married. And I believe she had children who are my relatives. All help appreciated.

Steve Granek
Columbia, MD USA

Re: Are "Muni" and "Munya" nicknames? For what name? #names

Chana Bonn

The only Munya I ever knew was also an Emanuel. 

Chana Bonn, Philadelphia 

Re: Viewmate translation Russian - surname for bride, no surname for groom? #lithuania #records


the name is listed as Yankel Efroimovich, which might mean either "Yankel son Efroim" or "Yankel Efroimovich" (as in someone's last name).  In this case, I think they didn't list his patronymic, just like record #14 - Toder Freynk (а 73 y.o., who married a 43 y.o. and gave 300 (!) rubles, as opposed to others on the same page, who only gave 42 or 84 rubles)
Shulke's father's name is Eliash.

Here is a twofer for you :)
Her brother is listed in the record above, #16 - a widower, Abram son of Eliash Ordman, but I can't make out name of his bride.  It starts with letters "RA", her father's name is Meyer.

Mike Vayser

Re: Why Did Jews Marry Christians? #general

Janet Furba

On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 11:55 AM, Cliff Karchmer wrote:
The intermarriages were not forbidden. But one of the two had to change his or her confession because there were then only religious marriages recognized by the State.
Janet Furba, Germany

Re: Why Did Jews Marry Christians? #general

Sarah L Meyer

In the 19th century Jews married Christians either for marriage or to protect their family from antisemitism or for economic reasons - to get a "good" job, enter college, etc.

Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

Viewmate translation Russian - surname for bride, no surname for groom? #lithuania #records

Michele Lock

On Jewishgen, I found the probable 1854 marriage record for the brother of my great great grandfather Aron Lak, from the town of Telsiai, Lithuania. The brother's name is Jankel Lak, son of Efroim, according to his own gravestone. From his family's Hamburg ship passenger list, his wife's name was Shula (short for Shulamit, I imagine).

The Jewishgen record is for a Jankel son of Efroim, but there is no groom's surname indexed. For the bride, she is listed as Shulke Ordman; this corresponds to a US birth record, where her maiden surname was given as Ortman. 

For the original image below on Viewmate (Record #17), I'd like a translation from the Russian to confirm there is nothing written for the groom's surname, and to confirm her surname and father's name. Anything else of note about the either person would also be of interest. For some unknown reason, the Hebrew side of the record was not filled out.

Has anyone come across this type of situation before, where no groom's surname was given? I suspect this Jankel Lak did not have his birth recorded, so when he married, they had a problem with how to write the marriage record.
Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai and in Plunge/Telsiai, Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus

Re: Why Did Jews Marry Christians? #general

Sherri Bobish

Hi Cliff,

I found you question interesting, and while searching for some info on the subject I found this book (I have not read it.)
Confessions of the Shtetl. Converts from Judaism in Imperial Russia, 1817-1906 by Ellie R. Schainker
This site has a detailed commentary on the book, which on its own is interesting.

Hope this helps,

Sherri Bobish

Searching for relatives of Harold Goel LERNER and Rosalie (FINE) LERNER #general #names #usa


I am searching for relatives of Harold Goel Lerner and Rosalie (Fine) Lerner who I believe are related to me. They are both buried alongside other Fine relatives of mine in the Mount Lebanon Cemetery in Queens, NY.

They lived in Ft. Lee, NJ. Children: Joseph and Susan.

Harold Goel Lerner was born in Providence, RI (5 Jun 1926) and died NJ (19 Jun 2006)
Rosalie (Fine) Lerner was born in NYC, (19 Jun 1926) and died NJ (14 Sep 1998)

I believe Harold and Rosalie were married in the Bronx in 1954.


Jeff Fine
Montclair, NJ, USA

Galician Military Records #galicia

Barbara Ellman

I came across this posting from American Ancestors regarding military records for Galicia (1865-1918):

This is the first such record that I've seen.  Looks like a local researcher would be required.

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland

New York City Death Record Questions #general #records #usa


I am trying to request the death certificates for some likely distant cousins, Julius Fine and Samuel H. Fine, who are buried near other of my Fine relatives in the Mount Lebanon Cemetery in Queens. They died in the 1954 and 1956.
Currently NYC Death records after 1949 are available only from the Department of Health and only to certain relatives:
  1. The following relations to the deceased may request both a death certificate and the confidential cause of death medical report: Spouse, Domestic partner, Parent, Child, Sibling. Grandparent, Grandchild, Informant listed on the certificate, Person in control of disposition.
  2. The following relations may only request a death certificate, not the cause of death: Niece/Nephew, Aunt/Uncle, Great grandchild and great-great grandchildGrandniece/Grandnephew
1. It seems like there are specific exceptions to the specific relatives listed above for specific legal purposes. Are there any exceptions for genealogical purposes? 
2. I have read in previous posts that after 50 years, the records move to the "genealogical" group. Is that correct? We are already 72 years past 1949.
Jeff Fine
Montclair, NJ, USA

Re: Are "Muni" and "Munya" nicknames? For what name? #names

Trudy Greener

My Russian first cousin was Munya, and I understood that it was short for Emanuel... 

Trudy (Litt) Greener, Jerusalem  (Litvak and Naiman families from Chimerovitz, Ukraine)

Re: Are "Muni" and "Munya" nicknames? For what name? #names

Linda Cantor

I had the opportunity at a genealogy conference years ago to ask the late Shmuel Gorr (author of Jewish Personal Names) about Manes, my grandfather's name.  He told me that it was a nickname or  diminutive for Menachem.

Linda Cantor

Re: Copying Hebrew text from a PDF into a Translation tool - OCR (Optical Character Recognition) Help Request #general

H Duboff


Have you tried uploading it to Google Translate?

Toward the top there is a choice of text or document.  You may be able to upload the PDF.

Mequon, Wisconsin

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