RECHT family of Poland research #poland

Colleen Knol

Hi, thanks for accepting my application to join.  I am researching  my RECHT family, from Poland, specifically, Jack (Jakob Gedalia), and his father, Yechiel Altar RECHT.  Jack changed his surname to Rich when he immigrated to the U.S. I've been trying to find birth certificates for them, but can't find anywhere. I'm wondering if someone can help me with info on this?  Thank you, Colleen Knol
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

database of Hungarian-speaking Jews in Europe during World War II #hungary

John Hoenig

I would like to call your attention to a new, searchable database of interest to those with Hungarian-speaking relatives in Europe during World War II. 


In 1944, three non-governmental organizations in New York, the World Jewish Congress, the Zionist Organization of America, and the International Rescue and Relief Committee, compiled lists of people in Hungary and Hungarian-speaking lands that wanted to immigrate to Palestine. The lists are comprised of nearly 9,400 people in about 2600 families from Hungarian-speaking lands in present-day Hungary, Romania, Ukraine, Slovakia and Serbia. About a third of the people lived in Budapest, a third in the rest of present-day Hungary, and a third in territory occupied by Hungary.

The lists identify families and contain names, ages, and towns. In many cases, they also contain detailed descriptions of extended families (cousins, in-laws, etc.) and street addresses. Early lists were sent directly to the Jewish Agency for Palestine. After the creation of the US Government’s War Refugee Board, the lists were sent to the Board for forwarding to the representative of the Jewish Agency in Istanbul. The lists are in the records of the War Refugee Board at the F.D. Roosevelt Presidential Library in Hyde Park, New York, and appear online in three pdf files as follows: (folder 1) (folder 2) (folder 3). 


The database is described in a recent article available at:  


and It can be searched online at 


If you request a copy of the original document, you will receive one of the three pdf files listed above. Note that the pdfs are searchable so, if the typing in the original is clear, you should be able to find the record of interest easily. Otherwise, the online database gives the page number and you can flip through the file to the appropriate page.  


I had wanted to donate this database to JewishGen but, for reasons that are unfathomable to me, JewishGen was uninterested. The next issue of AVOTAYNU will contain an article in which I describe the holdings of additional relief agency archives which contain Holocaust-related records of interest to genealogists and family historians. Unfortunately, most of those records are not indexed. 


John Hoenig, Williamsburg, VA 

Searching HONIG/HONIG (Transylvania), PELLER (Jablonow, Kolomea, Stanislaw), FITZER (Radauti, Stanislaw, Brzezany) 


John M. Hoenig

Professor of Marine Science | Department of Fisheries Science

Virginia Institute of Marine Science | PO Box 1346 (1375 Greate Rd), Gloucester Pt., VA 23062


my webpage:    

pdf's of my papers:

Google Scholar profile:

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Re: Jews with Christian names #names

Max Heffler

I do not think Berman is goyish. All Berman's I have known were Jewish.

Max Heffler
Houston, TX

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Subject: Re: [] Jews with Christian names #names #general
I can think offhand of three famous-ish Jews named Christopher. You can’t get more goyish than that. Christopher Berman, Christopher Wallace and Christopher Guest.


Max Heffler
Houston, TX

Re: Jews with Christian names #names

Emily Olson

I can think offhand of three famous-ish Jews named Christopher. You can’t get more goyish than that. Christopher Berman, Christopher Wallace and Christopher Guest.

Re: August 1882 Prienai Pogrom: Any Documents from the Trial? #lithuania #poland


Thank you for posting this. It’s the first I heard of it. My mother’s maternal grandparents were from Prienai (moved to Kovno, but some family remained).  Bass and Kaufman.  What is there to read on this altogether? I’d be interested in seeing it. 
Jeanne Swack

Re: Are "Muni" and "Munya" nicknames? For what name? #names

Jerry Scherer

Here's my father's story. There are some similarities to Paul Gottlieb's father.

My father was born in 1909 in Kuty, Galicia. He lived and went to school in Vienna, Austria from 1920 until 1930. From 1930 to !941, he worked as an accountant in Stanislawow, Poland, In 1941, he was sent to Siberia by the Red Army. He worked there in the forced labor camps and in the munition factory until 1946. From 1946 to1949, we were in the DP camp in Hofgeismar, Germany. 

My father's Yiddish/Hebrew name was Moishe. Other names and nicknames used were Maurycy, Munya, Misha and Morris. He was always called by family and friends as Munya and Misha.

Jerry Scherer
Toronto, Canada

View Mate Translation Request – Russian - Osman #translation

Alice Klein

I've posted a record on ViewMate for the birth of my mother Frances Osman in Poland in about 1913. A complete translation would be appreciated.

It is on ViewMate at the following address:

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much,
Alice Klein
La Vista, NE




Re: "The Destruction of Jewish Cemeteries" -- new book by Krzysztof Bielawski #poland #general

tony hausner

Thanks for posting.  The problems also exist in Ukraine.  

Tony Hausner
Silver Spring, MD 

Re: Andre Laniado #general #unitedkingdom

Lisa Steinberg

Just yesterday (11 APR) someone posted about the Laniado family. Her name is Karen Lukerman.
If you scroll to the bottom of the email that came today with your question, you'll see hers from yesterday and you can connect. 
I do not think it is such a common name. There was an author called Lucette Lagnado who was from Cairo and wrote "The Man in the White Sharkskin Suit" about her dad.
Good Luck!
Lisa Steinberg, Riverdale The Bronx New York
SHATZMAN (Medzhybizh, Kamieniets Podolsk, Ukraine/Russia)
ROSENTHAL (Parchomowzy (Parhomowce/Parkhomivtsi), Khmelnytskyi, Khmelnytskyi, Ukraine)
SEGAL (Neshchiz, Kovel, Wolin, Ukraine)
ACKERMAN (Brichany, Khotin, Bessarabia) And Yedintz
KUPERMAN/COOPERMAN (Brichany, Khotin, Bessarabia) And Yedintz
CHAYET (Pasvalys, Kovno, Lithuania)
MEYEROWITZ (Kovno, Lithuania)

Re: Translation from Hungarian to English #translation


Dear Everyone                                                   12th April 2021

My apology, but I am a bit puzzled of the content material of the translation from the Hungarian handwriting--
Or I wonder, is my Hungarian ;rusty'?

I am not perceiving--its content material as relating to birth? etc.

My interpretation:
Ref 3857--as a reference to an 'official entry'
Dated 11th January  (-January)- 1894

" The dated -Order by the judgement of the Chief Servant---                                       Keltezett foszolga  Biroi rendelete  folyaman --
In retrospect--(entered0 14th June 1894                                                                      Utolagosan --Junius 14-en 1894 Jegyezkedettbe 
The textiles  which were left -empty                                                                             Az uresen maradt szovetek-  meaning cloth )( I read it with a 'T'  szovetek  and                                                                                                                                     due to missing data (pattern)                                                                                      it seems whoever translated it read it with a' letter 'Gszovegek--mondatok (sentences).
 could not be  followed/relied upon                                                                               Elegendo anyagok hianyaban  nem kovethetok voltak

My apology if I am the one who misread, misunderstood the Hungarian

Best wishes
Veronika Pachtinger

Translate from Hungarian to English #translation

SZ <2745715@...>

Can someone please translate the document from Hungarian to English that is posted here


Re: Unknown grandfather #unitedkingdom

Sarah L Meyer

Have you done a DNA test?  Your matches could be a key here, especially since it appears that you have one Jewish grandparent.   The common recommendations when searching for an unknown parent/grandparent are to test at Ancestry and 23 and me and then download your raw data and upload it to FamilyTreeDNA, MyHeritage, Gedmatch and LivingDNA (especially since you apparently are from the UK)
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

Re: Are "Muni" and "Munya" nicknames? For what name? #names

Paul Gottlieb

My father was born in 1901. His home was in Kuty, Galicia, Austro-Hungary at the time, later Poland, now Ukraine.
His first name was Moses, probably Moishe. At some point, his nickname became Munio.
Perhaps revealingly, after he moved to Vienna and became a successful businessman, he formerly
changed his first name (in the mid-1930's) to Maximilian, the first name of a former Austro-Hungarian emperor. 
But his nickname always remained Munio, even after he came to America.
Happy to hear any thoughts about this or similar stories.

Paul Gottlieb
New York City

Re: Trying to Locate Shmerman (Sherman) family Members from Novi Velidnyky, Ukraine (Veledniki) #general #ukraine

Sherri Bobish


Found this on Ancestry.  Riva SHMERMAN's father is listed as Sam SHMERMAN.  Riva born Vilednick in 1914.
Social Security Applications and Claims Index
Name: Riva Shmerman[Riva Samoilovna]
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1914
Birth Place: Vilednick, Soviet Union
Death Date: Oct 1989
Father: Sam Shmerman
Mother: Charlotte Crane
SSN: 386781459
Type of Claim: Evidence other than birth record submitted; U.S. citizen or alien allowed to work.
Relationship of Signature: Not signed, SSA prepared.
Notes: 04 Nov 1976: Name listed as RIVA SHMERMAN
And, in California, U.S., Death Index
Here the name of Riva's mother is different from that on The Soc. Sec. application.
Name: Riva Shmerman
[Riva Sherman] 
Social Security #: 386781459
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1914
Birth Place: Other Country
Death Date: 25 Oct 1989
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Kravetz
Father's Surname: Sherman
Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Re: Are "Muni" and "Munya" nicknames? For what name? #names


My father Samuel had two brothers : Osher / Oscar and Emmanuel. Their family lived not far from Minsk.
Their parent called them Sioma (Samuel), Ossia (Osher / Oscar) and Monia (Emmanuel).
So, Emmanuel is a possibility for Munia. 

Daniel Ewenczyk 
Paris, France
Searching Ewenczyk / Evenczyk (Bélarus), Rezepter (Ukraine), Elie (Romania)

Jews with Christian names #names

Yonatan Ben-Ari

Someone wrote that "jews do not give their children names". I know several Orthodox families who gave their children names such as Peter or Paul. True that one of these families were of German jewish stock where i presume the phenomenon was more prevelant than by eastern european jews.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

Andre Laniado #general #unitedkingdom

Beryl & Gabi Otvos

My husband was a classmate of Andre Laniado in the French Lycee, London from 1958 to 1961. At that time they both lived in London. Does anyone have any information about Andre?
Beryl Otvos
Researching: BOTSTEIN, Ukraine
GOLDSTEIN, Lomza, Poland
BERGER, Austria, Hungary

Re: Unknown grandfather #unitedkingdom

Jill Whitehead

Hi Val,

In terms of both second name changes, Baum is a common name in Manchester - one of my Abrahams/Abrams relations married a female Baum or Boam (interchangeable) in Manchester in the late 19th century. 

I have heard of Berens becoming Brown, Brand or similar. 

In terms of first name changes, in my family Harris or Hirsch often became Harry. Aaron also became Harry.

Commonly families reverted from their surnames to their patronyms. My great great grandfather was Mordecai/Mortchel, and this was the family patronym for my father's family so some members of the family changed their surname from Servian/Serwianski to Max, Marks or Maxwell after Mordecai . This was in both UK in Liverpool and in USA in Chicago.

My Abrahams/Abrams family was called Ceglarski in the old country but reverted back to the patronym of Abram/Abraham in Manchester.

But occupations could also be used. One Servian became Silverman as he silvered mirrors, but he also later became a Maxwell.

Another Servian borrowed a neighbour's name, unrelated to the family and became Lynam.

So you need to think outside the box and examine census and BMD records for clues. It took me ten years to find out some of the above, but the clues were there in the records.  

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Re: Translation from Hungarian to English #translation

Marianna Toth

the last sentence says that the empty headings were left out in the lack of relevant data
Marianna Toth

Seeking male descendants of Jean GOLDKETTE #dna #unitedkingdom

David Ziants

I want to try and reach out to any descendant down the male line of:-

One can see in the article that it states that his father is unknown.

It is is told in the family that his mother Angeline GOLDKETTE (who is a third cousin of a second great uncle of mine) spent the night with the King of the Greeks, Constantine I (1868-1923) and John Jean was conceived from that relationship. It seems that there are those who refute this story. Angeline was a court musician and was performing for these royals. The GOLDKETTE family are known to be a family of performers going back many generations.

One way to prove or refute this story is by finding a male descendent who has done or is willing to do a Y-Chromosome DNA test and share the results.

The Y-DNA of Prince Phillip (Duke of Edinburgh) who died last week is  R1b

So, please feel free to PM me if you can help, or if there are general tips am sure it will be allowed to share them with the group.


My family connection to Angeline:

MyselfSandra Valerie Ziants
my late mother


Beatrice Rebbeca Gable
her mother



Joseph Riena
her father



Sarah Galler (Sasiene/Reina)
his sister



Woolf Sasiene
her husband



Rebecca Sasiene
his mother



Joseph Ruben Zwart
her father



Roosje / Reits Manus Samuel Kinsbergen
his mother



Grietje Blanus
her sister



Leentje Blanus
her daughter



Jeannette Goudsmit
her daughter

Angeline Goldkette
her daughter

David Ziants

Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel

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