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Re: SCJGS Sunday, April 18th at 1pm Pacific Standard Time- Jewish Genealogy DNA Basics and Beyond #announcements #dna #education #events

Murray Sperber
 

An L. A. Times article (https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-04-13/column-blackstone-ancestry-genetic-privacy) questions the uses DNA data bases will be used for now that Ancestry, along with 23and me, have been bought by an investment firm and pharmaceutical firm as "existing federal medical privacy laws don't apply to genealogical sites."

Murray S. Sperber
Los Angeles, CA
Re: Are "Muni" and "Munya" nicknames? For what name? #names

Susan J. Gordon
 

My interest in the name, "Moni," and variations is inspired by what I've been reading in the recently published Memorial Book of Skalat.

The stories in the book were recounted and recorded by survivors who gave their testimonies over time. I had read parts of the book online, previously, because Skalat is one of my ancestral homes, and I've been wondering about "Moni Lempert," "M. Lempert" (and other names for this man, who was a member of the Judenrat.) He, along with other "delegates, Nirler, Schoenberg," and "Zimmer: (aka "pillars of the Skalat Judenrat" met with "Muller," whom I believe was head of the Gestapo stationed in nearby Tarnopol.

My concern is... is this "Lempert" a relative of mine (even a distant one)? In 1942, when he was "responsible for the Labor office," he was instructed by the Gestapo to round up a certain number of Jews, and he "received a cash payment from the Judenrat for being the first to bring in all the people on his list: 100%.

My immediate family - maternal great grandparents, their 6 children - including my grandmother - all had left Galicia by the end of the 19th century. Their name, "Lempert," was soon changed to "Lambert." 

I have visited my great grandparents' graves in the "Skalater Section" of Mt. Zion cemetery in Maspeth, New York, and have confirmed that other Lemperts (and Lamberts) are buried there, too. But none has a name that begins with "M."

M. Lempert had been responsible for the deaths of other Jews, even though it's likely that he did not have a choice. He and other Judenrat members had been leaders in the ghetto, and in various testimonies, they are remembered as ones who "gained infamy by their evil acts."

What happened to him? Did he die in a camp? Did he survive the Holocaust and come to the US?...

How do we, as researchers and chroniclers of our families' pasts, handle this? Have other Jewish Genners run into this problem?

Thanks, already, for so many great responses. 

Susan Gordon
PS: you can read about my search for Muller online, in "'Hunting a Dead Nazi,' Susan J. Gordon."
sjgwed@...
www.becauseofeva.com
LEMPERT, SCHOENHAUT - Skalat, Lvov
BIALAZURKER - Zbaraz, Budapest
Re: Jews with Christian names #names

Paul King
 

Your brief remarks on first name acquisition in Prussia prior to 1850 raise some critical questions. Did the state give names or were parents free to choose names? Naming a child after a monarch was common in some European countries such as Bohemia and would be in the spirit of honorific surnames such Baron, Prinz or Graf. Biblical names from the New Testament were also common, often drawn from restrictive name lists. Some choices such as Mary Magdalena, however, do appear astonishing, especially when the father was a community slaughterer well-versed in Jewish ritual. Did other German principalities follow the first name regulations of Prussia?

Paul King
Jerusalem 
Re: ZIMBLER - Lazarus (Eliezer) and Rose/Rosie (Raizel) - London 1911 #lithuania #latvia #unitedkingdom

Diane Jacobs
 

I would suggest that you try to find their marriage record either in London or in Kovna
(Kaunas). Using the All Lithuania Database on
Jewishgen, looking for a Zimbler (search
Phonetically) marrying a Rose unknown by
Looking for various first names like Reizal,
Rukhla , Roza, Rachel, etc.; also by her age she is in the census and having been married just 2 years . You will need UK vital records indexes which are online and possibly ancestry and family search.

I have had wonderful luck on all 4 over the years. Good luck!

Diane Jacobs



On Apr 13, 2021, at 2:50 PM, simon <sgz-groups.jewishgen@...> wrote:



Eliezer and Raizel are my great great grandparents on my father's side. They were living in Mount Street, Whitechapel, London in 1911 with their 10-month old daughter Rebecca (Sarah). Eliezer may have died in 1936, but in any case they were bombed out of Whitechapel during WWII and ended up in Leicester, where Rose (as she was then known) opened a deli in Highfields Street.

But that's all we know. The 1911 census states that Raizel came from Kovno, Lithiania, but we don't have her maiden name. Eliezer also came from Russia, but it's hard to decipher the census writing. Looks like it could be Tucham or Iuchan?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Simon Zimbler



<Cencus 1911 Lazarus Rose Rebecca.jpg>
 

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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey
Re: ZIMBLER - Lazarus (Eliezer) and Rose/Rosie (Raizel) - London 1911 #lithuania #latvia #unitedkingdom

pathetiq1@...
 

Re: ZIMBLER - Lazarus (Eliezer) and Rose/Rosie (Raizel) - London 1911 #lithuania #latvia #unitedkingdom

Barbara Kenzer
 


I can not find my Great Grandparents Jacob Simon, Annie Simon (Goldman), Celia Schuster (Nathan) (Nechowitz), Morris Schuster, Harris Block, and Sarah Block.
I can not find where they all lived. I have been searching for years. Getting very discouraging.
Thank you 
Barbara Kenzer

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 1:50 PM simon <sgz-groups.jewishgen@...> wrote:

Eliezer and Raizel are my great great grandparents on my father's side. They were living in Mount Street, Whitechapel, London in 1911 with their 10-month old daughter Rebecca (Sarah). Eliezer may have died in 1936, but in any case they were bombed out of Whitechapel during WWII and ended up in Leicester, where Rose (as she was then known) opened a deli in Highfields Street.

But that's all we know. The 1911 census states that Raizel came from Kovno, Lithiania, but we don't have her maiden name. Eliezer also came from Russia, but it's hard to decipher the census writing. Looks like it could be Tucham or Iuchan?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Simon Zimbler



 
Ancestry World Explorer subscription #general

Robert Hanna
 

I've just received an offer for 20% off a World Explorer subscription on Ancestry.  The price is $119 for 6 months.  My family is from Babruysk & Minsk in Belarus and Warsaw in Poland.  I already have a US subscription.  Has anybody had this subscription and found that they got any information from it that they could not get just as easily some other way?

Robert Hanna
NYC

Researching:
CHANAN/HANAN, BLUMENBLAT (Warsaw); KARASIK, THOMASHOW, COHEN (Babruysk); RUBINSTEIN, BUNDEROFF, PASTILNIK, NEMOYTEN, DISKIN (Minsk)
Looking for information( tlf number, email address) of Mr.Shraga Tzevi Levi ( Israel) #hungary #romania

Andres Carciente
 

I am looking for information ( email address and/or phone number of Mr. Shraga Tzevi Levi who was living in Jerusalem in the Torat Chesed Street.
He wrote a book about a Din Torah ( Galanta) and I would be interested to contact  him.I wrote him a l postal etter but received no answer.

Thanks


Joel Carciente
Budapest
Help in translation of gravestone #translation

Enid Rose
 

Help requested to translate Hebrew on family gravestone.
 
Enid Rose
Paramus, NJ
JGSGM April 18 at 10:30 AM ET Lisa Cooper: Live from Great Britain #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Paulette Bronstein
 

Dear Friends,
The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Miami in collaboration with Temple Beth Am Library's Sunday Salon invites you to join us for our April 18th event at 10:30 AM ET.
Warm regards,
Paulette Bronstein
President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Miami
 
Sunday, April 18 at 10:30 a.m.
To join us by Zoom, contact to get a link:
jgsgm.vpprogramming@...
Lisa Cooper: Live from Great Britain.
A Forgotten Land: Growing up in the Jewish
Pale.
 
Lisa Cooper is a British writer, journalist,
and artist. She studied Russian at Edinburgh
University and spent a year in the Soviet
Union as a student. Armed with an address
dating from the 1960s and a family tree, she contacted
cousins in Kiev, then part of Soviet Ukraine, who
introduced her to a web of relatives she knew nothing
about. The experience helped breed an interest in both
family history and Ukrainian Jewish history.
Re: Help in translation of gravestone #translation

SLeaf
 

The first six Hebrew lines read as follows:

Here lies
our dear father
an upright man pursuing righteousness [tzedakah] and lovingkindness [chesed]
the rabbi Mordechai son of Mr. Yechiel may his memory be a blessing
Michailover
Died on Purim [5]671 [1911] at the age of 67

The last Hebrew line is the standard Hebrew abbreviation for "May his soul be wrapped in the bundle [bonds] of life."

Between those initial and final lines, there is a wonderful acrostic poem, the initial letters of which form "Mordechai son of Yechiel."  Each line ends with the syllable "cha."

Why were you taken before your days were completed[?]
You did much [great things] for all who sought your aid
You trod the path of lovingkindness [chesed] all the days of your life
For your heart was full of mercy and pity [hearkening]
May you be repaid according to your deeds and your [deserved] recompense
When you come to seek refuge in the shade of your Creator
You will rest in peace on your resting place [bed, grave]
Will be remembered for the good to all who know your name
[for] the life and lovingkindness [chesed] that you did [wrought] in your earthly existence
Your years were 67 but your deeds were many
You are happy [worthy] that you ascended with your kind deeds
Those who fear God and all [others] turn to [await] your redemption

There's a strong sense that he died before his time, despite his relatively advanced years.

Shalom Leaf
NYC
Reminder: April 18 Ken Bravo 1:00-2:30 PM MNJGS zoom event-- You’ve Done Your DNA – Now What? #events #dna #announcements

casson123@...
 

Many of us have sent our DNA off to a firm, curious about what we might find. We receive an ethnicity estimate followed often by a long list of matches ranging from 2nd cousins to more distant ones.  Sometimes we are contacted by people on the list of matches who are trying to decipher the relationship. Who are these people? And how do we make sense of their relationship to us?  

 

Ken Bravo will help you create a strategy for reviewing and prioritizing that list to determine who these people are and what their relationship is to you. Bravo's presentation will cover his process, developed over many years, of working in traditional genealogy and with DNA matches. Ken demonstrates the process he uses to cull through spurious relatives due to endogamy and "real" relatives. He works with family trees before all else and then looks for linkages in the matches, often looking for common surnames. Ken will explain how people who have tested with multiple DNA providers can get different ethnicity results. Using examples from his own large Lithuanian family, he will demonstrate how he has identified new branches of his family tree through DNA analysis. Ken will also explain the Gedmatch tool and share examples to illustrate how he has used it to further his family research. 

 

Speaker Bio:

Ken Bravo is President of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) and Past President of the JGS Cleveland. and is a frequent lecturer on a variety of genealogy subjects.  He has been searching his own roots since the mid-1970s and, in more recent years, has added the families of the spouses of his four children to his research.  He is a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists and has his own business, The Nuts & Bolts of Jewish Genealogy, to assist others in researching their family histories.

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For more information and to RSVP go to https://www.mnjgs.org/events/mnjgs-event-youve-done-your-dna-now-what

 

Members are free, a $5 donation is requested of nonmembers. 

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Liba Casson-Nudell
Minneapolis, MN
Re: Help in translation of gravestone #translation

binyaminkerman@...
 

Here is buried our dear father, a man who chased righteousness and kindness, the Rabbi Mordechai son of Reb Yechiel of blessed memory MICHALOVER. Died Purim 5671 at 67 years.
Why were you taken before you filled your days,
You did much for all downtrodden who sought your help,
You went on the path of kindness all the days of your life,
For mercy and graciousness filled your heart,
G-d should pay you your wages and according to your deeds,
When you come to shelter in the shade of your creator,
Rest in peace where you were laid down,
All who know your name will remember you for good,
The life and kindness you did in your life,
The days of your years were 67 but you did much,
You are fortunate you ascended to heaven with your good deeds,
To the G-dfearing and all who turned to your salvation.
May his soul be bound in the bonds of life.


The title Rabbi and Reb are used for Honor and do not mean he was necessarily a Rabbi. The holiday of Purim is the 14th of Adar. The epitaph spells out Mordechai son of Yechiel.

 Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD

Researching:
KERMAN Pinsk 
SPIELER Lodz, Zloczew, Belchatow
SEGALL, SCHWARTZ Piatra Neamt
Re: Tiktin Family of Rabbis #poland

Jeremy Lichtman
 

The pamphlet "The Oldest Jewish Families in Czestochowa" by Janusz Spyra contains numerous references to the Tiktin family that may be of use.

From the footnotes there, there are references to individuals in the family in the book "Biographisches Handbuch der Rabbiner",
ed. Michael Brocke and Julius Carlebach, Munich 2009 (BHR) I/2.

Specifically: "Biographical entries for Abraham (dec’d. 1820), Salomon (dec’d. 1843) and Gedalia (dec’d. 1886) Tiktin in BHR I/2, pp.
856–859."

The Gedalia mentioned above is the son of Abraham, born circa 1808 in Czestochowa, and evidently named after his grandfather.

It appears that the Lewkowicz > Kohn family of Czestochowa may be renamed Tiktins as well, as several members of that family occasionally used the name on documents.

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Jeremy Lichtman
Toronto, Canada
Re: Jews with Christian names #names

David Harrison <djh_119@...>
 

The usage of "Christian Name" for "Given Name" was normal in Britain but started to die in about 1975.  Round about that year official documents started to change from the one to the other when asking for the given names for passports or for candidates to be elected to public Office and later on for Clubs and societies.  I remember a friend of my wife  (her husband was the Dean of one of our three Cathedrals) asked me "Mr Harrison what is your Christian Name?"  To which I replied "I have not got one, Ruth, but my first name is David.' likewise in about1995 a Skiing Instructor made a similar request and at the end of that course handed me a course completion certificate which stated Christian Name David; I handed it back saying "i told you that I am Jewish and do not have a Christian Name"  That summer I met him again and he told me that the awarding club had discussed this at their AGM and were not making any change to their certificates.  I therefore reported this to the SYHA who had organised that course. I do not think that any religion has as much as 50% of the population of Birmingham, we have many sorts of Christians at least 4 types of Jew, a variety of different versions of Islam, Sikhs, Hindus and Buddhists, Humanists and my old University has had a Pagan Chaplain for a couple of years.
David Harrison, Birmingham, England
( The three Cathedrals are Protestant, Catholic and Greek Orthodox)

From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of Sarah L Meyer <sarahlmeyer@...>
Sent: 13 April 2021 14:13
To: main@... <main@...>
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Jews with Christian names #names
 
I believe that the quote was taken out of context.  The original comment was made by a non-Jewish woman who referred to first names or given names as "Christian names" and the comment was that we do not use "Christian names", we do use first names or given names.  The discussion was not which first/given names are "Christian", in the original post the reference was to all  given names.
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com

Re: Begging translation of my newly found Grandmother's resting place FANNY LEVY #translation

miriam delorie
 

Good afternoon,

Please would it be possible for someone to translate this Head Stone belonging to my Paternal Grandmother who was buried by my late Father. [FANNY LEVENE [LEVY]

After searching for over 20 years it has only just been found.

Thanking you in advance with much appreciation,

Miriam Delorie (ex Coleman{Levy})

 

 

 

 


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Re: Tiktin Family of Rabbis #poland

Irwin Keller
 

To Sydney Levine and other researchrs––

Beloved Rabbi Max Ticktin died nearly 5 years ago. This obituary gives the names of his daughters. You could try reaching out to them to see if they have any family history or lore in hand.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/rabbi-max-ticktin-yiddish-and-hebrew-literature-professor-at-gwu-dies-at-94/2016/07/06/198fe5ce-42f0-11e6-8856-f26de2537a9d_story.html

Irwin Keller
Penngrove, CA
Re: Looking for relatives of Isaac Schneirow #general #usa

Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock
 

My son in law Benjamin Sanderson has one DNA match on Ancestry with surname Schneirow.
Do you know the town of origin?

We know Sanderson was an adopted English form. The original surname is not known. But the place Isaac Sanderson son of Abraham Moses came from was Polish speaking and I have wondered about Pultusk.
We know his gt grandfather Isaac Sanderson had a brother who passed through Liverpool on the way to Chicago shortly before Edith was born, that is 1912. So that date dosnt fit with yours.

Evelyn Wilcock
London SW15 6PF
eandcw@...
Sanderson, Lucas
Re: Andre Laniado #general #unitedkingdom

Karen Lukeman
 

Hi, 

There was actually another person asking about the Laniado family (from Livorno Italy, I believe). My only comment is that there were Laniados from Syria (Sam Laniado from Brooklyn NY sent a congratulations via telegram to my parents when they got married in 1951). 

So sorry that I can't be of help. 
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Karen Calmon Lukeman
KALMANOWITZ (Lyubcha and towns near Grodno, Vilna and Minsk)
GOLDSMITH (Bakshty and Ivje)
NASSER (Damascus)
BENBAJI (Damascus)
BALLAS (Damascus)
ZIMBLER - Lazarus (Eliezer) and Rose/Rosie (Raizel) - London 1911 #lithuania #latvia #unitedkingdom

simon
 

Eliezer and Raizel are my great great grandparents on my father's side. They were living in Mount Street, Whitechapel, London in 1911 with their 10-month old daughter Rebecca (Sarah). Eliezer may have died in 1936, but in any case they were bombed out of Whitechapel during WWII and ended up in Leicester, where Rose (as she was then known) opened a deli in Highfields Street.

But that's all we know. The 1911 census states that Raizel came from Kovno, Lithiania, but we don't have her maiden name. Eliezer also came from Russia, but it's hard to decipher the census writing. Looks like it could be Tucham or Iuchan?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Simon Zimbler



 
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