Looking for Family of Sam Zigler #ukraine #unitedkingdom

I'm looking for information about the family of origin of my maternal grandfather, Sam ZIGLER (or maybe ZIGLIN or ZIGLINE), born 1885 in Königsberg, Prussia (now Kaliningrad, Russia). He married my grandmother, Rose Kabakoff, somewhere near Kiev, Ukraine, and they emigrated to the U.S. in 1923. Family lore has it that Sam had a brother who emigrated to England, but I have never found another Zigler/Ziglin/Zigline anywhere.
Toby Troffkin
Lexington, Kentucky

DNA matches with descendants of enslaved African Americans. #usa #general

Brad Fanta

Has anyone with antebellum Southern Jewish ancestry encountered DNA matches with descendants of enslaved African Americans?  I have, and I suspect I am not alone. 


The fact that these matches occur in both lines of my family who had been slave holders (never more than 2 or 3 enslaved people at a time) is sobering and brings the brutality of this institution into greater light. My Southern Jewish ancestors were no different than others at that time:  they immigrated to the US in the 1840/50s and found access to economic and social freedom unknown to them in Europe. They were merchants and some held enslaved African Americans, a mark of middle class establishment at the time. Many of these men and their descendants became pillars of society. Only because of recent events has the Southern Jewish Historical Society finally decided to focus on systematic racism and how southern Jews fit into the larger racial landscape. However, the hagiography of southern Jewish lives, coupled with the Lost Cause narratives  and Southern Pride, continues to buttress a wall of silence around this issue and obscure the evidence that southern Jews were also perpetrators of the worst violence agains African Americans. At the very least, I would like to break this silence.  


Just knowing who is out there with similar discoveries will be helpful.  


Brad Fanta

Austin, Texas


Slave-holding ancestors:

LOUPE (originally LAUPHEIMER) in Dover and Yell counties, Arkansas

HAAS in St. Landry and Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana 

ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland #translation

David Rosenbaum

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much,
David Rosenbaum

Viewmate Polish translation request #translation

Christine Lassiege

Hello everyone,

I've posted 5 vital records about ROZANSKA family in Polish for which I’d like extracts as much vital data (names, dates, spouse, ages, place, job, name of the witness and family.. ).  

All are from the city of Minsk Mazowiecki, Poland.  They are on ViewMate at the following addresses...

1)     93113 Chaim ROZANSKA Akt 19, born in 1835  


2)     93114 Chaim ROZANSKA Akt 19 dead in 1853


3)     93112 Herzeck ROZANSKA Akt 33 registered in 1848, born in 1834   


4)     93111 Michel Rozanska Akt 16, dead in 1826  


5)     93110 Michel Rozanska Akt 16, born in 1828  

Thank you very much for your help

Christine LASSIEGE


Re: Published Jewish Family Histories #general


The digital collections of Yad Vashem as well as Digibaeck- the digital collections at Leo Back Institute,  are both valuable sources of Jewish family histories.

Avi Zucker

Re: Records of Landsleitschaften in New York City #records #usa

David Oseas

The book is also available in many public libraries (for example: Thousand Oaks, California).

The JGS of NY has captured the Landsmanshaftn data from the WPA study and make it available on their website:

David Oseas

HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York;  KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles
Hungary > New York;  OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
SCHECHTER/SHEKTER: Kishinev, Bessarabia > New York;  SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles
STRUL:  Iasi, Romania > Haifa, Israel;  WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles

Dubin, David M. MD

The Shach’s ancestry has been worked out brilliantly by Rabbi Rakov of London using a comment in a published letter and its connection to the Frankfurt am Main records recorded in Ettlinger’s Ele Toldot. 

The Shach’s mother was daughter of Nochum LOKWER (source unclear)
Father was Rabbi Meir, contributor to the book Chelkat Mechokek. His parents were Rabbi Moshe (died 1594) and Gela (died 1585). 

Gela was dtr of Majer (d 1559 son of Moshe BINGEN)
and Gutte (d 1552 dtr of Efraim?). 

Rabbi Moshe was son of Rajtse (d1574, dtr of Jakob) and Gompel (d 1560).  There’s more. Go to Ele Toldot available at the Leo Baeck institute website. 

good luck. 

david Dubin
teaneck, nj 

Romania: Join our new Facebook Group #romania

Michael Moritz

The JewishGen Romania Research Division has started a Facebook group.  I will be sharing updates on our progress (and requests for volunteers) there.  We're looking forward to good commentary, mutual assistance, sharing historical records and information, translation help, and new connections on Romanian Jewish genealogy.  You can join here:

Michael Moritz
Director, Romania Research Division

Re: Charmatz family from Lithuania #lithuania


Have you taken a DNA test?

Ellen Jacobs
Livingston, NJ

Re: Charmatz family from Lithuania #lithuania


I too, along with Katherine Block, are researching Itta Charmatz, married to Jerushim Zwiebel. Is Itta part of your tree?

Ellen Jacobs
Livingston, NJ

Re: Published Jewish Family Histories #general

Rick Zeckel

The Indiana Jewish Historical Society publishes a book or more annually that contain, as one might suspect, stories about Jewish history in the state of Indiana. These stories often center of Jewish Family histories. I suspect that other such Jewish Historical organizations do the same.
Rick Zeckel

Esther Swimmer Naturalization Search in Chester, Delaware County, Pennsylvania, USA #usa #records

Moishe Miller

Dear group,
I am searching for the  Naturalization of Esther Swimmer  of Chester, Delaware County, Pennsylvania, USA. She was widowed in 1906 and raised her children, Sadie (Kaplan), Jacob, Maurice and Benjamin. I have the census records for them from 1900 - 1940.

I suspect that Esthet's late husband, Avrum / Adolf / Abraham, with surname SWIMMER, was really a Schwimmer, born in Munkacz to Israel Schwimmer and Shaindel Forkas in 1869. Avrum was orphaned from his mother at the age of 2. Avrum's tombstone does show his father to be Yisroel (Israel). My aunt's large DNA match to Avrum's grandson further suggests our Schwimmer connection. 

Now I am trying to follow the paper trail to bolster my hunch. The naturalization record should offer a lot of detail, l where and when Avrum was born and married. Based on Avrum's find-a-grave at
I have not found his death record which might give his mother's name. The Hebrew date on the tombstone translates to March 4 or 5, 1906.

I would appreciate feedback and suggestions.

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
JGFF #3391

Georges Szlamowicz, Records from the 1920s, Paris #france #records

David Seldner

Dear All,


Since I have never done genealogy in France I am seeking for advice.


My Grandfather’s brother Jeruchim (Georges) SZLAMOWICZ was born in Lodz, Poland, on Sept 18, 1894. My mother told me many years ago that the agreement was for the family to meet “in Paris at Uncle Georges’” when the Shoa is over.


This is all I knew (except for the JRI Poland birth entry and the Lodz Registration Card), then I found an entry in the Feb 8, 1924 issue of  “L’Univers Israélite Galicia” stating the he got married at Tournelles:


Dimanche 10 février 1h ½


M. Jeruchin Georges Szlamowicz, 7 Rue de Trévise,

Mlle Rebecca Goldstein, 1 rue Sainte-Claude

Dimanche 10 février 2h ¼


Since I have not been able to find any more information on him or his wife, neither at JewishGen, MyHeritage or by simply looking via Google, I am asking for advice – where to find for example civil records Any help is appreciated.


Thank a lot in advance,


David SELDNER, Karlsruhe, Germany.

David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany

Re: Looking for Mordke & Ester JALAS, arrived in USA/Canada 1914 #poland #usa #canada #general

Diane Jacobs

When searching a name that begins with J ,
I would also try I and Y due to pronunciation and spelling.
This is certainly true in the Lithuanian databases on Jewishgen. Casting a wide net , collects a lot of fishes.

Diane Jacobs

On Apr 18, 2021, at 3:22 AM, Yossi Jalas <yjj321@...> wrote:


Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

Re: Marriage license needed: Brooklyn, 1926 #records #usa


If you are on facebook join the  New York City Genealogy group.  Its a fabulous group.  You then have two options.  1)  if you have a FHC close to you then look for instructions in the announcements on how to access the wifi from your local FHC with your laptop and you can get the record yourself.  I want to say that FS has a glitch and Manhattan records don't show up in the search. The other option is to request a "parking lot angel"  to retrieve the record for you.  It usually takes a few days and there is no charge.  either way.... look for the announcements and the threads where you should post your request.   They post a new thread every few days for regular records and then a separate one for Manhattan records.   I have gotten many records over the last 9 months.   Good luck.

Katherine Block
Canton, GA

Re: Looking for Mordke & Ester JALAS, arrived in USA/Canada 1914 #poland #usa #canada #general


If I am correct, you are looking  for records regarding only Mordke and not his wife Ester? 
Giannis Daropoulos 


Re: Mukachevo area births, 1871-1880 #records


Also recommend Mr Baruch Huber.

All the best 

Mark Friedman

Jill Whitehead

My cousin has an early 19th century parchment family tree in Hebrew showing the family's descent from the esteemed 17th century rabbi The Shack who was born in Ambistowo in Lithuania and died in Holeslov or Holescahu in Moravia where his tomb is a tourist attraction. I got this translated about 10 years.

His descendants returned to Lithuania, and they included a long line of Rabbis of what is now Vistytis in Lithuania, but which was Wiesteniec in Poland in 19th century, and was known as Vishtinetz in Yiddish.

The family ancestor was a daughter (Teyle or Talia) of a late 18th century Rabbi of Vishtinetz, and her grandchildren emigrated to Edinburgh, Scotland in 1870.  The family tree has a very detailed line of descent with the same occuring names of Jacob (there were a lot of Rabbi Jacob Ha Kohen's of Vishtinetz and elsewhere in the family tree), Gershon Joseph and Dinah which continued in Scotland, with Jacob becoming Julius and Gershon becoming George.

Teyle's sons (my great great grandparents) were Jacob Brin (after her father Rabbi Jacob) and Gershon Joseph Brin, and Brin later became Brown in Scotland with Jacob and Gershon's children. 

Jacob Brin's sons were Benjamin (my great grandfather), Lewis and Philip who all went to Scotland and his daughters were Fanny and Sheina (later Janet), and Janet also went to Scotland and also Fanny's daughter another Sheina, or Jeanie.

Benjamin's wife was Sheina (later Janet) his 1st cousin and daughter of Gershon Joseph Brin. This Sheina's siblings in Edinburgh were Arthur and Bessie Leah Brin or Brown. Bessie Leah married a Cohen and emigrated to Capetown in S. Africa in 1906. 

I tried looking at the Geni site for descendants of The Shakh but did not find this very helpful. There are people on this site who think they are related to him but have no written evidence for this, only oral stories.

Is there any documentation on the descent for Rabbi The Shack beyond the family's Hebrew family tree and which is more reliable than Geni? I would be interested in any sources especially rabbinical. I am interested in linking the family's early 19th family tree going back to the Shack in the 17th century to other sources, including the line of Rabbi Jacob's who were Rabbis of Vishintetz in the 18th century. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

Tracing descendants and relatives of my aunt Hannah Weiss - Denver, Colorado #usa #general

Cynthia Hollinsworth

I am trying to trace descendants of my aunt Hannah Weiss (who was married to my Uncle Wolf (William) who perished in the Holocaust) or descendants of other members of the Weiss family who I believe lived in Denver, Colorado
Cynthia Hollinsworth

Re: A new book on the Holocaust - "The Towns of Death: The Pogroms of Jews by Their Neighbors" #poland #holocaust

Ian Charles

I'd also recommend anyone following this subject "Our People - Discovering Lithuania's Hidden Holocaust",  describing a journey of discovery in 1915 through Lithuania by a respected non-Jewish Lithuanian investigative journalist Rūte Vanagaitē who discovered some of her family were involved in the murder of Jews in WW2, teamed up with a Nazi Hunter Efraim Zuroff.  Initially suspicious of each other, they ended up producing a quite remarkable book. Rūte it seems was made unwelcome in her own country after the publication and now lives in Jerusalem. It was one of the highlights of the recent Jewish Book Week. Extremely harrowing but totally compelling. It was published in 2016 but I think only translated to English last year

Ian Charles
London, UK

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