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Re: DNA matches with descendants of enslaved African Americans. #usa #general

Judith Elam
 

Hi Brad

I do not have southern USA relatives.  BUT, my 5th great-grandmother, who lived and died in Spandau (now part of Berlin), was married twice. Her name was Lane. I descend from the first husband, Joachim Aron.  Her second husband was Joseph Abraham of Spandau.  Lane and Joseph Abraham had at least 3 more children. One of their grandsons ended up in Jamaica.  He was born in Spandau in 1799 and died in Jamaica.  He went to Jamaica and changed his name from Raphael Levin to Rudolph Lewis.  Rudolph Lewis has hundreds of descendants, all born in Jamaica, although some died in Canada. A good many of them were slave owners.  Here is a record on Ancestry showing slave ownership:  https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/1129/images/CSUK1817_133588-00135?pId=8388519.  I also found many records on Familysearch.org.  

Not sure if the above is of interest to you, but apparently the Lewis family of Manchester, Jamaica, is pretty well known.

So I am related to the Lewis family of Jamaica.  

Judith Elam
Kihei, HI


Re: DNA matches with descendants of enslaved African Americans. #usa #general

Judith Elam
 

Hi Brad

I do not have southern USA relatives.  BUT, my 5th great-grandmother, who lived and died in Spandau (now part of Berlin), was married twice. Her name was Lane. I descend from the first husband, Joachim Aron.  Her second husband was Joseph Abraham of Spandau.  Lane and Joseph Abraham had at least 3 more children. One of their grandsons ended up in Jamaica.  He was born in Spandau in 1799 and died in Jamaica.  He went to Jamaica and changed his name from Raphael Levin to Rudolph Lewis.  Rudolph Lewis has hundreds of descendants, all born in Jamaica, although some died in Canada. A good many of them were slave owners.  Here is a record on Ancestry showing slave ownership:  https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/1129/images/CSUK1817_133588-00135?pId=8388519.  I also found many records on Familysearch.org.  

Not sure if the above is of interest to you, but apparently the Lewis family of Manchester, Jamaica, is pretty well known.

So I am related to the Lewis family of Jamaica.  

Judith Elam
Kihei, HI


Re: Requesting translations from German #germany #translation

Edith Goldman <phal4gal@...>
 

Thank you for your comment but I don't think that's possible, as both my grandparents were German and I don't think either of them spoke Dutch.
Edith Goldman


More translations from German #germany #translation

Edith Goldman <phal4gal@...>
 

I've attached several more of my grandparents' letters, would appreciate if anyone could translate.

Thank you,
Edith Goldman


Translation from German #germany #translation

Edith Goldman <phal4gal@...>
 

My grandfather wrote poetry and skits, usually for a specific or special occasion. Could anyone tell me what this is about? Based on the date I'm assuming it was written to celebrate New Years - I think in Germany it's called Sylvester?

Thank you,
Edith Goldman


Tiktin #general

KAREN SAUNDERS
 

I am going around in circles trying to ascertain which line of the Landau family to follow. My gggrandmother Rosalie Tiktin married Anton Wallerstein from Dresden and her mother Rachel Landau married Chief Rabbi Salomon Abraham Tiktin. It seems Rachel’s father was Wolff Landau born in 1749. Can anyone confirm this with any accuracy as there are so many persons named Wolff Landau. 
I would appreciate your assistance.
Kind regards,

Karen Saunders
Melbourne, Australia
(researching Tiktin/Landau/Wallerstein family line)

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Re: Wrong people on family trees on genealogy sites #general

KAREN SAUNDERS
 

As I have mentioned, it is often impossible to confirm definitively if the data/assumptions are correct. Sometimes one needs a lead to pursue. I am probably one of these people who review/copy data believing it to be true based on info. to date but add “?” . I would hope anyone who knows the info. is questionable would contact me but I have never heard to this effect.
Karen Saunders
Melbourne, Australia
(Researching: Frank, Wallerstein, Stern, Horowitz, Davidoff, Tiktin)

On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 at 10:23, Linda Higgins via groups.jewishgen.org <lghiggins=yahoo.com@...> wrote:
On several genealogy websites there are people who have my parents, myself and my brother in their family tree.  I have tried to make contact.  Most did not reply.  They see a name they are looking for and don't don anyinvestigation whatsoever.  They assume it's the person they are looking for and add them to their tree.  A few who responded to me said they had no idea how that information got into their family trees.  If  they made the tree, they  added the information.  It is absolutely imperative that you know for sure you have the right person before you add them.

Linda Gordon Higgins
Spring, TX


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Hello. I would like to join to research info about my 4 x g grandfather Abraham ben Gedaliah Tiktin 1764 - 1820. With thx.


Looking for Helena Kotzin in Moscow #russia

Ted Kotzin
 


Seeking descendants of Zawelowicz/Zavelovich family in Philadelphia and Chicago #usa #belarus

jdthcohen@yahoo.com
 

Zawelowicz family immigrated from Koidanov, Minsk, Russia in early 1900s to U.S. After arrival their name was changed to Cohen. They settled mainly in Philadelphia and Chicago. Can give first names if you think you are related.
Thank you,
Judy Cohen
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Re: Wrong people on family trees on genealogy sites #general

Linda Higgins
 

On several genealogy websites there are people who have my parents, myself and my brother in their family tree.  I have tried to make contact.  Most did not reply.  They see a name they are looking for and don't don anyinvestigation whatsoever.  They assume it's the person they are looking for and add them to their tree.  A few who responded to me said they had no idea how that information got into their family trees.  If  they made the tree, they  added the information.  It is absolutely imperative that you know for sure you have the right person before you add them.

Linda Gordon Higgins
Spring, TX


Marriage of Fredrick George Schneeberg to Wilhelmina "Minnie" Maack on 29 April 1891, in New York #germany #usa

phmkhunt@...
 

I have obtained a copy of the marriage certificate for Frederick and Wilhelmina (see attached).  The celebrant was a Leo Koenig, and the Official Station looks like "Louth Tarbor" or "South Tarbor"; maybe this is an abbreviation for South Tabernacle?  The certificate shows that Frederick was born in Schiffdorf, Cuxhaven, Lower Saxony, Germany.  I should be grateful if anyone could be able to confirm the definite words/abbreviation shown against Official Station and, if that is a Jewish location in New York, any information about the Schneebergs of the late 19th century, at that location. Going back further, I would also welcome any information, which people may be able to share, regarding the Schneebergs of Schiffdorf, Cuxhaven, Lower Saxony, Germany.

With thanks in anticipation

Philip Mark Hunt

Bendigo, Victoria, Australia


Travel with infants #general

Molly Staub
 

Re travel with infants

 

The answer is — with great difficulty. My Russian grandmother Fanny, who had married and had 3 children in London, traveled with them (aged 4, 3, and 2) to the U.S. in 1909. They had bought her nephew a passenger ticket so he could help, but he “found himself a girlfriend aboard ship” and was little help. I believe there were agencies
 and volunteers at Ellis Island in New York which helped with arrangements. 

Also, a great deal of travel in Europe and America was done by train, where records are not available. The steamship lines made those arrangements. 

Molly Staub

 

 

 

 

Molly Staub

E-mail staubmolly@...

 


Re: Wrong people on family trees on genealogy sites #general

Michele Lock
 

I have only contacted two people about my Lippman great great grandfather. All over Ancestry, people have him married to two different women simultaneously, fathering children with each in alternate years. I did get this corrected, but otherwise, I leave it alone.

On the other hand, I have found mistakes in other trees to sometimes give clues that are worth exploring. For instance, all over Ancestry, there are trees that say my Lock clan comes from Gruzdiske, Lithuania. I've had relatives tell me we come from Zagare, 60 miles away. When I went looking for a town that sounds like Gruzdiske but is near Zagare, up popped Gruzdziai, which records show is the correct town.

Another incorrect but useful factoid - All over Ancestry there are trees that show a certain Alex/Elias Lak/Locke was born in Riga, Latvia. His own census records say he was born in either Germany, Estonia, or Russia. But I figured maybe it is worth checking to see if there are any Lak records in Riga. And up pops several records showing a known great uncle Jacob Lak/Locke living there for several years before immigrating with his family to Boston, US. This was something we never knew about. Checking the naturalization papers for his children, shows them saying they were born in Riga. So, the trees have the wrong Lak/Locke born in Riga, but checking this out led to other correct Lockes. As it turns out, Alex/Elias Lak/Locke was born in Telsiai, Lithuania. HIs family moved to Estonia for several years, prior to immigrating to Chicago.

So, others' mistakes can be useful. However, I don't much bother trying to clean up these useful mistakes, since I figure the tree owners won't much care. It's a free country, and they can do as they please.

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Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


Re: Emigration from Russian Empire to Canada #courland #lithuania #belarus #ukraine #russia

Victor Weisskopf
 

Visited Pier 21 in 2019. Did not find relatives there, but did find a picture of a Holland Amerika Line ship I'd ridden in the early 60's that was heavily used also to bring immigrants from Holland to Halifax.  Brought back nice memories to see the "SS Waterman".  
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Vic Weisskopf
Deerfield, IL USA
Weisskopf, Kober, Marx, Lazarus
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Re: Use of the term "Color" in late 19th century and Early 20th century NYC Birth Records #records

Sherri Bobish
 

Steve,

Any time I have seen "color" as a category on a birth (and sometimes marriage) record it does refer to race.

I've seen forms that asked for description of complexion, however that is different from "color."  Complexion might be described as ruddy or fair, etc.

Many births were attended by midwifes, and many were barely literate and/or their English was limited.  It may be that the midwife did not understand the question. 

I do not know if most NYC birth certs were written out by the midwife, or by a clerk.  That would be an interesting thing to find out.

It may be that a clerk just made an error, or misunderstood what the midwife said, or the midwife simply did not understand the question.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: Looking for information/documents on Abuliak and Ber families #records #bessarabia #ukraine #romania

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello Alberto,  thanks for your post.

Do you know who was Yitsik Ber in Khotin?  was he a carpenter?  We have a record from Bessarabia Business Directory of 1924 where BER, Itsko from Khotin is listed as a carpenter.
I would suggest for you to do a search for all Surname "BER" in Bessarabia, and look into every record.
There are also many records for surname BER or similar, but for some other towns in Bessarabia. I would suggest to check them out.
For example two Birth records from town of Novoselitsa, which is in Khotin uezd, not far from Khotin... also there are number of Revision list records too.

There are also several other researchers looking for family name BER, BEER, BEHR (these are likely the same family name).  Maybe you could connect with them using Family Finder.

Have a question to you... how do you know that the surname was BER ?  do you have it written down somewhere?

All the best,
Shabbat Shalom
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia Group Leader and Coordinator


Hungary Jewish records #hungary

Dubin, David M. MD
 

Hi all,
would anyone have access to 

Magyar-Zsidó Oklevéltár XVI, 1974? An ancestor is mentioned on page 318, and I’d appreciate a copy. 

thank you. 

David Dubin
Teaneck, NJ


Re: DNA matches with descendants of enslaved African Americans. #usa #general

LLevine2@...
 

Hello Brad,

Thank you for your important letter. My maternal family also came to the US  before the Civil War from small cities of southwestern Germany. Some went to Kingston, North Carolina and were merchants. Some went to Wheeling, West Virginia. Some were known as pioneers of the Jewish community of Cleveland, Ohio. Three of the Cleveland relatives fought in the Civil War for the Union. I was contacted by a descendant of a slave  because our DNA matched. He was already a good genealogist and had a name for the father of his slave ancestor from a death certificate, but the name was butchered. Using good old fashioned genealogy methods we followed the paper trail. It took us three years to discover that the name of our common Jewish ancestor was Joseph Sondheimer. He was not a slave owner but a peddler in Kentucky. He arrived in this country from Sennfeld, Baden in 1850 at 18 years of age. The story is a different narrative than one you describe. The paths of this Jewish peddler named Joseph Sondheimer crossed with a woman named Caroline, enslaved on a farm in Mt. Sterling, Kentucky. When peddlers had to find a place to sleep, they were not invited into the house with the farmer and probably had to choose between the barn and  slave houses.  Identical twin boys were born to Joseph Sondheimer and the enslaved Caroline Chambers in 1856.  The boys were born into slavery on the Chambers farm. The African American descendants of Joseph and Caroline assumed that the farmer, Mr. Chambers was their white ancestor until DNA revealed a different truth.  We think that Joseph acknowledged his fatherhood and was involved in the children's lives in some manner because of family stories passed down in the black family.  The peddler, Joseph, also fathered another boy in 1859 with a free woman of color. After freedom, these children went on to became known as some of the most successful blacks in Montgomery County, Kentucky!

Joseph went on to marry a Jewish woman named Caroline Goodman and had a legal family of nine children! When Joseph died, he and his wife, were buried in Willet Cemetery, the first  Jewish cemetery in Cleveland, Ohio. I presented a talk about this story at the  IAJGS conference in Cleveland two summers ago. Feel free to contact me for more details.


Linda Levine
Cambridge, Massachusetts
LLevine2@...


Kitchener Camps Sandwich #unitedkingdom

richard.holder@...
 

Hello,
I am researching my wife's family background.  Her father, together with his brother were part of the 4000 or so young men sent to a Kitchener Camp in Sandwich, Kent, UK in 1939 as part of an agreement between the UK Government and the Nazi regime (AFAIK).
The rest of her father's family, mother, father, younger brother were all murdered in a concentration camp near Minsk in 1942.

What I am trying to do is find out the brother's pathway from arrest (presumably) and onward journey to the UK.   I have searched every database that I can find and there's no sign of:

Franz Oscar Mandl, born 19th May 1913,
Wilhelm Mandl, born 28 April 1908,  

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Kind Regards
Richard Holder

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