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Re: ABRAMOWITZ of Novarodok-19th cent. #names

kdomeshek@...
 

There are four translated revision lists for Nesvizh (60 km away), spanning 1834 to 1879.  If revision lists exist for Nesvizh, it seems plausible that they also exist for other shtetls in the region, like Nowogrudek (Novaradok). 

The Yizkor book for Nowogrudek includes about 30 perished Jews named Abramowitz.  The name index is at the back of the book.  The book also includes an equally long list of Abramowitz who lived in Nowogrudek and another list of Abramowitz citizens in Korelitz.  The century is not entirely correct for your search, but some of these people would have been born in the 19th century.

Korelitz (Karelichy, 15 km away) had many Abramowitz.  Korelitz survivor Yaakov Abramowitz's (z'l) daughter in Israel has personal records, including photographs, one of which included my great uncle.  I reached Yaakov's daughter through researcher Ann Belinsky in Israel, who edited the Yizkor book for Korelitz.  (The Korelitz Yizkor book does not have a list of names...the Korelitz names are listed in the Nowogrudek Yizkor book.)

Nowogrudek is known for the tunnel that Jews dug to escape the ghetto.  Most of those who survived this daring escape joined the Bielski Partisans.  Commemorating this, there is a Jewish Resistance Museum in Nowogrudek.  The museum director is Tamara Vershitskaya.  Tamara surprises me with the information that she has collected.  She found the abandoned farm where my grandmother was born.  Maybe Tamara has a surprise for you?  If there are Abramowitz descendants from Nowogrudek, Tamara may know them.

Jack Kagan (z'l) was a survivor of Nowogrudek and he was instrumental in preserving records for Nowogrudek.  This included authoring a book about Nowogrudek.  I corresponded with his daughter a year or two ago.  She may be another search venue for you.

If you need help contacting these people, let me know privately.  I am reluctant to post personal contact information in a public forum.

Ken Domeshek - Houston

Damesek - Nesvizh
Braverman - Nesvizh
Kartorzynski - Korelitz, Nowogrudek, Negnewicze
Sinienski - Negnewicze, Wsielub, Lyubcha
Simonowitz - Negnewicze


Re: Preferred naming conventions/approaches for family trees #records #general

sharon yampell
 

I have found numerous variations of certain last names that run through my tree.  What I do, even for those so far back who really did not have last names, I put what I knew was the original last name once someone had one and then put each descendant with the version they chose to use…

 

For example, if the oldest ancestor is your ?x great grandfather, then he would be ?x great grandfather Schwartz but if later descendants use Schwarz or Shwartz, then I put those as their last name…I put the original last name for the oldest family member for consistency and to so those looking at my tree, will know where the variations may have originated.

 

Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, New Jersey

 

From: Kenneth Ryesky
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 6:59 AM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Preferred naming conventions/approaches for family trees #general #records

 

Never mind marriages!  In my family tree I have name changes by adoption.  But never mind them, either; I also have court-approved gender changes in my family tree (judges are not necessarily biologists, and do not necessarily conform to biological laws).
--
Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@... 

Researching:
RAISKY/REISKY, ARONOV, SHKOLNIK(OV), AEROV; Gomel, Belarus
GERTZIG, BRODSKY; Yelizavetgrad, Ukraine
BRODSKY, VASILESKY; Odessa, Ukraine
IZRAELSON, ARSHENOV; Yevpatoriya, Ukraine (Crimea)

 


Free access to UK census records this weekend #records

N. Summers
 

Just learned about this free offer from FindMyPast:


All UK census records are free this weekend

All of Findmypast’s British census records (1841-1911) are completely
free to access from 10:00 (BST) on 30 April until 3 May. Amazing
snapshots of the past, census records can help you trace your family
tree, generation by generation.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/page/free-access?utm_source=fmp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=FREEACCESS-ANNOUNCEMENT&utm_content=UK+CAMPAIGN+LOAD-TEST-FREE-ACCESS-Email1-280421&utm_term=410375710&M_BT=87310996367852

As I have no relatives in the UK, I have not tried it, but it seems like
a good resource. Happy Hunting!

*FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKENIK, LUSMAN, GOLDINER*(_Radziwillow,
Wolyn_, Russia _>Radzyliv_, Ukraine; _Ostroh_, Rivne, Poland>_Ostrog_,
_Rovno_, Ukraine; _Wolinsky_, Russia> _Ostrog_, _Volyn_,
Ukraine).*SAGORODER/ZAGORODER *(_Radziwillow_, Belarus/Ukraine; _Tel
Aviv_, Palestine / Israel).*LISS > ALPER*(_Motol_, _Vilyna_, _Pinsk_,
_Minsk, _Russia/Belarus)
--

Nancy Summers

Maryland, USA

 

FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKOENIG, LUSMAN, GOLDINER, SAGORODER/ZAGORODER (Radziwillow, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Poland/Belarus; Warsaw, Poland; Wolinsky, Russia/Ukraine)

LISS / ALPER  (Motol, Russia/Belarus)

LEAF / LIFSCHITZ ( Rechitsa, Belarus)


Re: Help deciphering a town name on passenger Manifest #records #ukraine

gorbulev@...
 

"Jekatronoslaw" = Ekaterinoslav
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnipro


Best regards,
Stanislav Gorbulev
Mainz, Germany


Re: Idel Weingarten - Scotland - buried in Glenduffhill Cemetery #unitedkingdom #general

rv Kaplan
 

Dear Ronit

The Scottish Jewish Archives Centre in Glasgow can help you with enquiries like this.  We have records of most Jews who have lived in Scotland.

You can contact us at:



best wishes

Harvey Kaplan
Director
Scottish Jewish Archives Centre

Ronnit Kessler rkessler831@... via groups.jewishgen.org 

12:52 (15 minutes ago)
to main
Hello,
 
My name is Ronnit Kessler.  I recently learned from my father, a Holocaust survivor that he had an uncle, from his mother's side, who lived in Scotland.  By googling his name I found the following:
 
 
I would love to find any of his living relatives.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Ronnit Kessler
_._,_._,_


Re: List of Victims of Babi Yar? #ukraine #holocaust

elena-boldyreva@...
 

Hi David,

The lists can be found here:
http://www.kby.kiev.ua/komitet/ru/membook/memory-book-baby-yar/203.html
http://babynyar.gov.ua/ru/victims_list
http://www.kby.kiev.ua/komitet/ru/names/

It is mentioned that the lists may not be complete.
What are the first/last names that you are looking for?


Regards,
Elena Boldyreva,
Toronto, Canada,
Searching for Rogovins from Shatsk, Minsk


Re: Need Help to Understand the Lodz Ghetto List #poland

Harry Kleinbourg
 

Bonjour Bernard (I live in Levallois so not very far away from Paris) !

I continue in english as we are in a worldwilde mailing list.

I just wanted to thank for your reply and all the info.

I understood that a lot of people had been deportated from Lodz ghuetto to Chemlo and directly murdered by gaz there.

It seems that Auschwitz was another deportation destination.

Do you know whether any other death camp were used as a deportation destination from Lodz Guetto?
And is there any chance to find any documents about prisonners in Auschwitz who had been deported in 1942?

Best Regards,

Harry Kleinbourg


Re: "first name known, unknown last name in New Jersey"--Update #usa

marlene finkelstein
 

My google search found William & Judith Goldberg in NJ Federal Bankruptcy court with the last update 7/30/2020. They are probably not in any state of mind to respond to you. 
Marlene Finkelstein


Idel Weingarten - Scotland - buried in Glenduffhill Cemetery #unitedkingdom #general

Ronnit Kessler
 

Hello,
 
My name is Ronnit Kessler.  I recently learned from my father, a Holocaust survivor that he had an uncle, from his mother's side, who lived in Scotland.  By googling his name I found the following:
 
 
I would love to find any of his living relatives.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Ronnit Kessler


JGSIG May meeting is on Tues May 11, 2021 at 10-11:30 am EDT on Zoom RSVP. #announcements #education #events

Arthur Sissman
 

Hi JewishGenners!

 

The Jewish Genealogy SIG May meeting is on Tues May 11, 2021 at 10-11:30 am EDT on Zoom.  

The topics will include: Manipulating the SteveMorse.org website, Handling Google alerts, Following "your people" on Family Search, and using Member Connect feature at Ancestry.com.  Sorta like - letting other people do the work!

Send an email to genresearch13@... to join the fun.  You will get a response to your RSVP.

If you request a Zoom link for the above meeting, please answer the questions below:

 

  • How did you find out about the meeting?
  • Where are you located?
  • Do you have a family tree?
  • Have you DNA Tested?
  • Research interest or what question are you trying to answer - not too much detail please?
--
Arthur Sissman
Jewish Genealogy SIG of Collier/Lee Co FL
genresearch13@...

Join our FB page at Jewish Genealogy SIG

TimeZoneConverter. https://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/ 


Re: Travel from Grajewo or Augustowo Poland to the Port of Rotterdam May 1917 #general

Jill Whitehead
 

Hi Esther,

Grajewo (in Lomza gubernia) and Augustow (in Suwalki gubernia) were right on the border with Konigsberg in East Prussia, a major Baltic port. A lot of people smuggling took place in the last quarter of the 19th century in this way. In WW1 this area was overrun by the German Army and it was part of the WW1 front line (same in WW2 as well). So it is likely your ancestor found their way to Konigsberg Port.

All my great grandparents came from this area to UK between 1865 and 1875.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Re: Preferred naming conventions/approaches for family trees #records #general

Kenneth Ryesky
 

Never mind marriages!  In my family tree I have name changes by adoption.  But never mind them, either; I also have court-approved gender changes in my family tree (judges are not necessarily biologists, and do not necessarily conform to biological laws).
--
Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@... 

Researching:
RAISKY/REISKY, ARONOV, SHKOLNIK(OV), AEROV; Gomel, Belarus
GERTZIG, BRODSKY; Yelizavetgrad, Ukraine
BRODSKY, VASILESKY; Odessa, Ukraine
IZRAELSON, ARSHENOV; Yevpatoriya, Ukraine (Crimea)


JGS Libraries Birds of a Feather Session #jgs-iajgs

Michelle Sandler
 

Last year I led a Birds of a Feather session at the IAJGS Convention
on JGS Libraries. Does anyone want the session to be repeated this
year? If so is anyone willing to help moderate the session and help
come up with an agenda for the session. I do not want to be the only
person running this session. It is too stressful for me.

Michelle Sandler MLS
Orange County California Jewish Genealogy Society
Librarian
Westminster, California


Re: Preferred naming conventions/approaches for family trees #records #general

Michael Herzlich
 

For Q2: How do you deal with name changes and alternate/variant spellings in family trees?
 
For both Family Tree Maker and Ancestry you can specify more than one name.  You just "add fact"-Name then either specify which one is "preferred" or default to let it remain with the previous preferred name.

There is also another Fact you can add for both, "Also Known As".  I like to use this for Family Tree Maker as this name is listed in the Names Index on the left part of the screen making it easy to visually see both the Preferred Name and the AKA Name.  Alternate names do not show up in the index. 

If you do not see AKA in the main view of Family Tree Maker, open Options, select the Names/Dates/Places tab and add the check mark to "Use AKA if available as an additional entry"  You can then use the "Customize View" button on the the bottom right of the main screen to organize where AKA is displayed.

In Ancestry the Alternate names are not displayed unless you expand the names field.
In Ancestry the AKA name is displayed towards the bottom of the Facts Tab.
--
Michael Herzlich
Delray Beach, Florida USA

Belarus - EPSTEIN, HELFAND, POLLACK
Galicia (Poland, Ukraine) - HERZLICH, TREIBER


Zloczow (Zolochive) Yizkor Book #yizkorbooks

Nehama and Moshe Kutten
 

Dear coordinator,

 

The following is a note for the Jewishgen discussion group newsletter

Thank you

Moshe Kutten

 

 

 

I am translating the Zloczow (Zolochiv) Yizkor Book to English for the Jewishgen site. Page 127 / 128 is missing on the digital copy of the book located on  the New York Library website. I would appreciate if I can receive a copy of the page from anybody who owns the original Hebrew book

 

Moshe Kutten


Re: What was the purpose of this document issued in Czarist Russia? #russia

jbonline1111@...
 

I have a copy of a Russian passport from the 1890s, when my paternal great grandfather traveled to the USA with some of his minor children.  The children's names are included on it.  Because it is written in Russian, French and English, I always assumed it was an international passport. Now I wonder. 
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


List of Victims of Babi Yar? #ukraine #holocaust

David Levine
 

Hi everyone

I've been searching for lists of victims killed at Babi Yar but have not been successful. Does this exist? 
In general, it has been hard to find names of my family members who died by the holocaust by bullets as far less records were kept of these mass murders.
Thanks

--
Best Regards,
David Levine
San Francisco, CA, USA
davidelevine@...
Researching: 
Weinstein -> Solotwina, Galicia | Frisch, Hilman, Jungerman, Schindler -> Rozniatow, Galicia | Golanski, Kramerofsky/Kromerovsky -> Kiev | Lefkowitz -> Petrikov, Belarus | Shub, Rosen Hlusk, Belarus | Levine, Weiner, Zamoshkin -> Slutsk, Belarus 
 


Travel from Grajewo or Augustowo Poland to the Port of Rotterdam May 1917 #general

Esther Brill
 

Has any been able to discover how, in 1917,    someone  would  travel from Graewo or Augostowo  to the Port of Rotterdam to board s ship to NYC

 

Similarly, in 1911 to travel from GraJewo Poland to Bremen Germany to board a ship there.

Thank you

Esther Levine Brill

 

 

 


CORRECTION Re: Help deciphering a town name on passenger Manifest #records #ukraine

David Levine
 

I sent a screenshot of the wrong line item (these manifests are confusing!)
Correct: Line 19
(link below and upload are corrected)


I need some help figuring out the town name for this relative from a 1903 passenger manifest
The town is most likely somewhere south of Kiev
Below is a screenshot of the word
The entire sheet is attached to this email for viewing
Or, the link on Ancestry is here: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7488/images/NYT715_326-0131?pId=4001809269
Date 1903 Mar 01 SS Pennsylvania sailing Hamburg -> New York
Row 19 of page 62 of 83
--
Best Regards,
David Levine
San Francisco, CA, USA
davidelevine@...
Researching: 
Weinstein -> Solotwina, Galicia | Frisch, Hilman, Jungerman, Schindler -> Rozniatow, Galicia | Golanski, Kramerofsky/Kromerovsky -> Kiev | Lefkowitz -> Petrikov, Belarus | Shub, Rosen Hlusk, Belarus | Levine, Weiner, Zamoshkin -> Slutsk, Belarus 


Re: Preferred naming conventions/approaches for family trees #records #general

Max Heffler
 

Geni has a maiden name field and the name shows up in parentheses. There is an “also known as” field and all variants in the maiden name and AKA field are found in searches. I normally use the surname field as the final name used, frequently on headstones.

 

Max Heffler

Houston, TX

 

From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of Sally Bruckheimer via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 2:59 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Preferred naming conventions/approaches for family trees #general #records

 

Women's name change with marriage, so generally the norm is to record a woman by her maiden name. Every online genealogy program, EXCEPT Geni, follows this. Since women often married 3 or 4 times in Europe (men too, but they didn't change their surname), I don't know how Geni handles that.

Spelling varied too. Schwartz and Szwarc are the same name - the Soundex systems try to account for this, but you can use wild cards and  'Starts with' option.
Vowels varied often, as immigrants changed their name's spelling to a different alphabet (Yiddish or Russian to English), so Birzon and Berzon are cousins.

Online searches can be easier, if you edit the surname to the one you want: if you want to find out what happened after she was married, used her married name in a search; if you want to find her as a girl with her parents use her maiden name.

The more you search, the more 'helps' you will discover.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


--

Max Heffler
Houston, TX
max@...
HEFFLER(Ukraine)/TIRAS(Poland)/WASSEMAN(Lithuania)/MOORE(Poland)/ZLOT(Lithuania)
GORENSTEIN(Ukraine)/FLEISCHMAN(Latvia)/GOLDEN(Lithuania)

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