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Re: REQUEST: close-up photograph of an image on a grave in Montreal QC Canada #photographs #canada

Mike Coleman
 

Have you posted a request on Findagrave?

https://www.findagrave.com/

Mike Coleman   London U.K.

 


Translating Document from Norwegian to English #translation

FamilySearchPoland
 

World Wind Story.  We had a family member move from Bialystok, Poland to the UK with his Wife and Children. He abandoned them, went to the USA, and then "vanished".  His family though he died in WWI.  Not even close.  To say this man was a "philanderer", womanizer, and Lady's man is putting it mildly.

1. Wife from Poland and he had 5 Children he Abandoned.
2. In Norway he proceeded to knock up 4 different women and had at least 6 more kids.  We keep finding new ones.....

Finally settling down with one of those four women, he had two children. His youngest son and youngest son's daughter (granddaughter) were always suspicious of his story. Youngest son is now deceased.  His oldest son is 95 and still living, but refused to spill whatever he knew.  So the youngest son (while alive) and his daughter undertook the mission on their own.

Who was this man and why didn't his story add up.  Well all came to light with DNA.  He was in fact our relative. Instead of dying in WWI, he went AWOL, fled to Norway, changed his Name, got baptized, and hid his Jewish Heritage. Never contacting his Mother, Siblings, or Polish Wife ever Again.  Then,  Proceeding to philander his way around Norway having illegitimate kids.  Out of the 6 children in Norway, 2 died in 1918 (probably of the Spanish Flu), and 4 lived to adulthood. Assuming no more children are located.

The woman who started this whole project wrote an article about her journey that got published in Norwegian.  As It's in Norwegian and I need it translated so we can also read her work. Unfortunately, the woman who did all the research has been very busy in life and not had the opportunity to translate the document.  So I am reaching out for help so we can read her Article about our Jewish Family Member who hid his identity and left children all around the world.

Couldn't make this up if we tried!

Sophia Sherman


Re: Translation Hungarian to English #translation

stephen@...
 

 A link to the actual page would be more helpful. I haven't seen crosses on Jewish records. The marking is the diacritic above the a. Also they wouldn't be noting the father's death on a birth record. It refers to Jozsef dying Dec 1891, but it could also refer to Eliasz. You need to find the death record to make sure.
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Stephen Schmideg
Melbourne, Australia
stephen@...


Re: Employment in the old country? #general #belarus #romania #ukraine

Joel weiner
 

Many City Directories are online at genealogyindexer.org. Although they don’t indicate an individual’s religion, you could use first and/or last names to make a logical guess, then see their occupation.
Joel Weiner


Re: Translation Hungarian to English #translation

Marianna Toth
 

I think that Hermán is corrected to Herman, and that + does not show a death of Herman, just a comma crossed out.
You should seek the death record of Jozsef in Nagyida, 1891, 14th December.
best
Marianna Toth


Re: nad Dneper info for Belarus? #belarus #general

Sherri Bobish
 

Brianna,

Have you searched at The JewishGen Belarus database?
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Belarus/
I see lots of people named Briker there.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish


Re: Canada immigration records? #canada

Diane Jacobs
 

To find Canadian Border Crossings and Canadians Passenger Manifests first start with
stevemorse.org

Diane Jacobs


On May 5, 2021, at 2:40 AM, brianna.knoppow@... wrote:

Hi,
I just logged in to Familysearch. I'm looking in the Canada collection but I do not see the passenger manifests. What was your search process there? Thank you for your time.

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Brianna Knoppow
Washington DC (from Michigan)

Searching for BRIKER/BRICKER, MOGILL, HIRSCH, LIFSHITS

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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Translation Hungarian to English #translation

Alex Magocsi
 

Attached is a screen grab of the birth record (25 June 1878 Nyirbator) for Jozsef GELB, son of Herman GELB and Sara Friedman.
Above Herman's name is a + which I believe is an indication that someone is deceased.
Below the entry for Jozsef is a note that has been entered at a later date and it appears to begin with meghalt (died).

Can someone please translate the note for me?  I currently assume that it pertains to Herman.

Thank you
Alex Magocsi
Hamburg Germany


REQUEST: close-up photograph of an image on a grave in Montreal QC Canada #photographs #canada

Chloe Kogan
 

Hello,

I have a special request for a photograph of an image on a grave in Montreal. The gravestone of my uncle Mortimor (may his memory be for a blessing) has his photograph set into it, and it's the only photo of him that's still in existence that I'm aware of.

My request is for a close-up, head-on photograph just of Morty's photograph on the gravestone -- as high a quality as possible.

My plan is to print out the photo you take and frame it and give it as a gift to my aunt, who has been without a photo of her beloved late brother her entire adult life. I'm including the info for the grave's location below, as well as a link to its profile on JOWBR. Thank you so much in advance for your help.

https://jowbr.org/record.cgi?dir=br/SZ/&loc=SZ_11_9_

Cemetery: Back River Cemetery - Memorial Gardens
Section: Shaare Zion Congregation
Address: Corner Berri and Sauve, Montreal, Quebec
Location: Line 11 Grave 9
Map 1: https://jowbr.org/br/Maps/SZ.pdf
Map 2: https://barondehirsch.com/images/maps/122/Large.122.A2.jpg
Name: Mortimor KOGAN

Again, thank you so much in case you can help with this request.


Be well,
--
Chloë Kogan
Arizona, USA
Email: 802ben@...

Researching:
  • KOGAN & BERCOVICI: Moldova (Kaushany), Ukraine (Akkerman)
  • FISHER / FISERIS & MARGOLIS: Lithuania (Anyksciai, Kupiskis, Skapiskis, Utena)
  • Many emigrated to Canada (Montreal) & the U.S. (Massachusetts)


Bayside cemetery Queens, NY #usa

Richard Gilbert
 

You said in your post yesterday that 
 
"My mother told me that the reason Max was buried in what she referred to as Brooklyn was that religious rules or customs mandated he be buried across water from where the death took place.
 
I think what your mother may have been referring to is the Jewish practice of locating cemeteries on the outskirts of the communities where they live.  This is because whilst the rituals surrounding death are very important in Judaism, life and the enjoyment of life is even more so.  
 
This comes from Deuteronomy (Devarim) chapter 30 verse 19 where Moses tells the Jewish people:
 
"I have put before you life and death, blessing and curse. Choose life …" 
 
As a consequence of which, Jews have historically not sought to have man’s immortality staring at them as they go about their daily lives.  Life if you like, is for the living.  As a consequence it is rare to find a Jewish cemetery within the confines of towns and cities at least when they are first opened, unlike grave yards attached to parish churches.
 
In London, where I am from, most of the cemeteries currently in use are to be found around the M25 or just within the green belt just outside Greater London.  
 
Bushey, the town I live in, was in the countryside just on the outskirts of Greater London.  When I was a child the town was only known in Jewish circles for its cemetery which opened in 1946. But 50 years ago a community was established from the handful of families who had moved there because house prices were cheaper.  Now, it is the second largest community in the UK. The cemetery has grown but remains on the outskirts of our community. Bushey is built along the lines of several hills.  The cemetery is at the bottom of one those hills.  For this reason, when I am asked about the Bushey Jewish community I refer to it as being “alive & kicking at the top of the hill”.
 
Of course, there are always exceptions. The Jewish cemetery in Prague is next to the  Altneuschul and in Ramsgate, Kent, The Montefiore Synagogue has the mausoleums of Sir Moses and Lady Judith Montefiore right next door.
 
Good luck with your research.
 
Richard Gilbert
Bushey Heath, Hertfordshire, UK
 


Marik & Sieyoma Rudman sons of Grisha Zvi Rudman and Sonya Sura nee Lulkin #ukraine #general

Rose Feldman
 

 
I am looking for Marik born 1940 Tashkent and Sieyoma born 1950 possibly in Vinnista Ukraine or their descendants. They both had children born in the 1970s. They are in my family tree in MyHeritage. Any information on them or how to contact them or their family members would be appreciated.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Rose Feldman
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year
Israel Genealogy Research Association 
genealogy.org.il
Help us index more records at http://igra.csindexing.com
 
Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl

 


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Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
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Re: nad Dneper info for Belarus? #belarus #general

mvayser@...
 

There are 2 cities named Mogilev, one on the river Dnieper, the other on the river Dniester.  The correct name is either Mogilev or Mogilev-na-Dniepre (literally Mogilev on Dnieper).  The other was called Mogilev or Mogilev-na-Dniestre (Mogilev on Dniester), in 1920's it was officially renamed to Mogilev-Podolsky (Mogilev in Podolia).
The former and the one you are interested in was the capital of the eponymous governorate and is part of Belarus now.  The difference in spelling is due to transliteration from different languages.
There is quite a bit of information online about history of the city.  You can also check Wikipedia articles in different languages, besides English, such as Russian, Belarus, Ukrainian, etc, while using Chrome or similar browser to translate the page.

Did you check Yad Vashem site, there are multiple people with this last name that come up in the search: https://yvng.yadvashem.org/index.html?s_lastName=briker&s_place=mogilev.

Mike Vayser


Re: Bayside cemetery Queens, NY #usa

David Lewin
 

At 18:36 04/05/2021, A. E. Jordan wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: David Lewin <david@...>
I have transcribed the burial records to a spreadsheet after  Florence Marmor z"l died,  Florence used me as a back-up for years The data is still waiting for a permanent home.  There are 32,300 entries


I would think JewishGen should be / would be happy to host that list if you offered it.

Does it have location information by society name and gate numbers?

Allan Jordan


Yes - Death certificates, gates, societies and comments are recorded for very many of the records.
I have never tested the information on Jewishgen.  The problem there is - if the material is available - that only a single record is shown at a tine which to my mind rather looses its completeness.

David Lewin


Re: Bayside cemetery Queens, NY #usa

David Lewin
 

I will check with Nolan Altman

David Lewin


At 17:50 04/05/2021, Diane Jacobs wrote:
If theyhave not been out on JOWBR they should be.
Diane Jacobs


On May 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, David Lewin <david@...> wrote:

 I have transcribed the burial records to a spreadsheet after  Florence Marmor z"l died,  Florence used me as a back-up for years The data is still waiting for a permanent home.  There are 32,300 entries

David Lewin
London



At 14:31 04/05/2021, A. E. Jordan via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:



-----Original Message-----
From: Nana Redell <nane7012@...>


I recently found out that my grandfather Max LEFKOWITZ who was living in Newark, NJ was buried in the Bayside Cemetery, in Queens, NY.
Nana(nayna) Redell

I am not sure what the current status of Bayside is. There was an effort (the last of many) maybe two years ago to clean it up. But unless they have done ongoing maintenance it would be useless.

The office was ransacked years ago and most of the onsite records lost ... I was actually there before it happened and even then the records were spotty.

I have not been to the cemetery in years and I am not sure what it hours are for visiting as I think they are limited. Also I am not sure it is the best of areas so I wold not go alone. My great grandfather is among the missing at Bayside which is a great personal frustration.

As for finding a grave there are several partial databases of Bayside burials. Check the JOWBR record here at JewishGen to start. Steve Lasky had some records but I don't know what his status is and he had the overall map of the cemetery http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/cp-maps-ny-nj.htm. You could try emailing him to see if he has the person in his records but make sure you give him the date of burial.

Like most cemeteries it is divided into mostly burial societies. You need to find the name of the society and its gate number.

The Jewish Theological Institute has the burial books and you can try emailing them and ask them to give you the data. My experiences with them were difficult and uncooperative.

Also try newspapers and see if you can find a notice for the person's burial because it might give the name of the society.

Without the society name and the gate number it is a nearly impossible search because of the size of the cemetery especially since you said you are looking for a singe grave.

There are two cemeteries bordering Bayside that are separate but in poor condition as well. A lot of people got confused with which of the three cemeteries a person was being buried in so it is not uncommon to find a record saying Bayside but the person is in one of the two adjoining cemeteries.

Wish there was more encouraging news to offer.

Allan Jordan
New York


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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: DE BEER: Naming traditions #germany #names #sephardic

beer_tom@...
 

I partly agree with Eva.  My great-great-uncle Abraham Lob Beer, born in Moravia in 1858 has Beer in the birth register entry, but is indexed as Bär in the register index.  (I hope that the umlaut shows up).

Thus I read "Jakob bar Moscheh Bar" as Jakob son of Reb Moshe Bär"

I would also be interested in how Beer is written in the Hebrew script.  My Beer ancestors use bet ayin ayin reish.

Tom Beer
Melbourne, Australia


nad Dneper info for Belarus? #belarus #general

brianna.knoppow@...
 

Hello,

I am searching for information on my family that hails from: "nad Dneper, Mogilev, Russia" / "Mogilow, Russia". JewishGen uses the name, "Mogilev-na-Dniepr." I used the JewishGen tools and typed in the given name (Briker) but could not find anything on my Briker relatives. I know from the ship manifests which relatives left Mogilow. I'd like to learn about their parents and siblings who were left behind.

I would also like to learn about Mogilow (Belarus) in general (1908). Any tips?
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Brianna Knoppow
Washington DC (from Michigan)

Searching for BRIKER/BRICKER, MOGILL, HIRSCH, LIFSHITS


Employment in the old country? #general #belarus #romania #ukraine

brianna.knoppow@...
 

Hello, I am interested in learning about the types of employment opportunities available for Jews in the Pale of Settlement. I know that in some areas Jews were not permitted to serve as civil servants with the government. I don't think these restriction were homogeneous throughout the Pale of Settlement. I thought there are merchants and tavern keepers in some places as well. Is there a Wiki on Jewish employment opportunities by city? I know that I have relatives who were tailors and carpenters. I also had relatives who were Rabbis. I'm interested in mid-late 1800s and 1900 - WWII

For now I am looking at the following,

Mogilev-na-Dniepr, Belarus
Minsk
Kozelets, Ukraine
Yasi, Romania
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Brianna Knoppow
Washington DC (from Michigan)

Searching for BRIKER/BRICKER, MOGILL, HIRSCH, LIFSHITS


Re: Canada immigration records? #canada

brianna.knoppow@...
 

Hi,
I just logged in to Familysearch. I'm looking in the Canada collection but I do not see the passenger manifests. What was your search process there? Thank you for your time.

--
Brianna Knoppow
Washington DC (from Michigan)

Searching for BRIKER/BRICKER, MOGILL, HIRSCH, LIFSHITS


Re: Bayside cemetery Queens, NY #usa

Molly Staub
 

Hi Sandy, I saw your post and noticed you're researching a Lerner family. I know it's a very common name, but I have been given material saying that my maternal gg gf Rabbi Yechiel Berenson from Ukraine had married a woman named Lerner, descended from Rabbi Menachem Mendel Lerner of an 8-generation line of rabbis in Kitaygorod, Ukraine. My DNA  matches  several proven descendants by that name. Does this make any sense to you? My Ancestry Public Tree is "ArostStaub_2019" and my email staubmolly@....  
Thanks, Molly

Molly Arost Staub
Boca Raton, FL
Researching in Ukraine:
BERENSON, GROFFMAN, MENDELSON


Re: DE BEER: Naming traditions #germany #names #sephardic

Eva Lawrence
 

This is just a suggestion, but perhaps there was an unnoticed umlaut (two dots) over the a in bar. It would then be pronounced in the same way as Beer, and  the signature could be taken as: Jacob Beer Mosche Beer, i.e., Jacob son of Mosche.  
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Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

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