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Re: Contacting National Archives of Belarus? #belarus

mvayser@...
 

Brianna,
Archives in the former Soviet Union have a hierarchical 3-part identification of specific documents.  Fond might have hundreds or thousands of "opis".  Each opis might have hundreds or thousands of "delo" (the actual documents).  These documents in turn could be anywhere from a handful to thousands of pages.  When you request documents from the archives, you need to be precise in what you ask, if you expect to get a quick and exact turnaround.  This request is almost an equivalent of writing a letter to your city's central library and asking them "I understand that you have books that start with a letter M and someone once borrowed one of these books and translated it into another language.  How can I take a look at these books?"

If you found some lists online with the census information, most likely they will contain a reference to the actual archival documents and might look like "NHAB 2151-444-13".  They should also have a name of the archive, most often an acronym - NHAB (National Historical Archive of Belarus), or NHAB Grodno (National Historical Archive of Belarus at Grodno), or LVIA (Lithuanian State Historical Archive), etc.  Think of that name as a city, fond - street, opis - building number, delo - apartment or office.
From what I understand, Belarus archives will not send you the entire census/vital records book (unless you are onsite in their reading room), only scans of the specific pages, records, or families in the document.  You will need to specify who you are looking for in the document.

If you do not have exact ID of the document, try to be exact with what you are looking for and skip any information that is not going to be relevant to the archivist - it's not relevant to them what the relationships are, where these people lived after they left the area, etc. You will need to know their names as they used them in the old country, if the names changed after they came to the US, that's not going too be helpful to the archivist.  Specify that you looking for a person named X Y, who lived in town Z in years 18## to 18## and they were of Jewish faith.  You are looking for census and metrical (vital) records that might contain information about this person.  List other family members if necessary.  Having precise dates or at least a range of dates will help them look for the specifics or identify which records might be missing, that would have information about the person.

I have not dealt with Belarus archives myself, but from what I understand, they are easy to work with.

Mike Vayser

P.S. as far as I know, RAGAS is Russian-American Genealogical Archive Service.


Re: nad Dneper info for Belarus? #belarus #general

Diane Jacobs
 

Try Yad Vashem database for testimonies submitted a land list of those murdered or sent to other places in the Soviet Union .

I found there which of my great grandfathers siblings and descendants either emigrated,
survived, or were murdered this way.

Diane  Jacobs


On May 7, 2021, at 2:23 AM, brianna.knoppow@... wrote:

Thank you - yes - I have his surname from his marriage certificate from a Belarus database. Alas, I have not found him on any other sources and I think likely he did not immigrate. The marriage certificate also lists his father's name. I'm trying to find out 1) what happened to him and his wife; 2) the name of his brothers.

The JewishGen Belarus database is throwing me off a little bit. It has a lot of good info that I am reviewing, however it also has a lot of the results show a list of what's technically available, but not up on JewishGen and translated. For example, https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Belarus/mogilevb.htm. It states that to access the records I must "LDS microfilms, or at the National Historical Archives of Belarus in Minsk." Am I missing something?

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Brianna Knoppow
Washington DC (from Michigan)

Searching for BRIKER/BRICKER, MOGILL, HIRSCH, LIFSHITS

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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Synagogue in Vienna #austria-czech #general

Robert Fraser
 

Hi Friends -

I recently discovered, from different sources, that a great-uncle was married in Vienna in 1921 in a synagogue in the Fifth bezirk/district; Margareten. The only synagogue I can discover that existed in this district was at Siebenbrunnengasse 1a.

The bride was not Jewish and I don't know if she converted. I am therefore assuming that the synagogue was Liberal/Reform, if such existed in Vienna at the time. Can anyone confirm this please?

I assume that this synagogue no longer exists.

Shalom

Robert W Fraser
Perth, Western Australia
Researcher 6342
girof@...


IGRA webinar with Gil Bardige May 23 #dna #events

Garri Regev
 

IGRA invites you to join us as we host Gil Bardige in our 2021 Webinar Series. The Zoom Webinar is at 7 pm Israel time - noon EST.
 
Gil's topic is: "Help! I Just Got My DNA Results and I'm Confused". For anyone needing a clear explanation of how to evaluate all of the DNA results - this lecture is for you. Learn to prioritize your match lists, get organized and thus reduce the stress and confusion. 
 
The webinar is free however advance registration is required: https://zoom.us/meeting/register/tJMvdO2gqT0qGNJkuq0WvoQgiMjpKxlNReA0
 
Garri Regev
President, IGRA
 


Re: Employment in the old country? #general #belarus #romania #ukraine

brianna.knoppow@...
 

Thank you! Very interesting! Where do you look for bank records?
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Brianna Knoppow
Washington DC (from Michigan)

Searching for BRIKER/BRICKER, MOGILL, HIRSCH, LIFSHITS


Contacting National Archives of Belarus? #belarus

brianna.knoppow@...
 

Hello,

I wrote the following message to the "National Historical Archives of Belarus". Their response, Google Translate told me, was a link to a request form and a link to info on their 'reading room' hours. Anyone traveling to Belarus? Has anyone placed an order with the National Historical Archives of Belarus by chance? If so, I may ask you which link I should click on. The options are not in English.


Hello,
I am seeking information about my family who lived in Belarus long ago. I have heard that there is an item, Collection #2151 of the
Mogilev Treasury that includes Revision (census) lists and alphabetical lists of Jewish Town dwellers in a number of gubernia, districts, towns, and
shtetls.
 
I was also told that there is Collection #330 of the Minsk City Government for Town Dwellers and it contains a
family list of Jewish townsdwellers of Minsk in 1894 (884 families). These names were translated >from Russian to English and appeared
in the RAGAS Report. I have no idea what the RAGAS report is. Anyway, could you please assist me in having the opportunity to view the two collections that I included in this email? I would be very grateful.





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Brianna Knoppow
Washington DC (from Michigan)

Searching for BRIKER/BRICKER, MOGILL, HIRSCH, LIFSHITS


Re: nad Dneper info for Belarus? #belarus #general

brianna.knoppow@...
 

Thank you - yes - I have his surname from his marriage certificate from a Belarus database. Alas, I have not found him on any other sources and I think likely he did not immigrate. The marriage certificate also lists his father's name. I'm trying to find out 1) what happened to him and his wife; 2) the name of his brothers.

The JewishGen Belarus database is throwing me off a little bit. It has a lot of good info that I am reviewing, however it also has a lot of the results show a list of what's technically available, but not up on JewishGen and translated. For example, https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Belarus/mogilevb.htm. It states that to access the records I must "LDS microfilms, or at the National Historical Archives of Belarus in Minsk." Am I missing something?

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Brianna Knoppow
Washington DC (from Michigan)

Searching for BRIKER/BRICKER, MOGILL, HIRSCH, LIFSHITS


Re: Burial records #general #records

mvayser@...
 

They regularly add Jewish cemeteries in the former Soviet Union to their database and have a large genealogy-focused Facebook group.  I personally haven't used their commercial services, but perhaps someone else here has.
You can check their news page to see the cadence of updates to the database: https://mitzvatemet.com/en/all-news

Mike Vayser


Re: CORRECTION: Help with notations on 1930 Census record (reposting from yesterday with correction) #records

Susan&David
 

If you follow the census page by page you will see that 198 Bronx Place has a number of apartments. They may have been visited by the enumerator continuously, but they were not recorded in order on the census pages. You can find entries for 198 Bronx Place on census sheet 7B, 8B, 10A, 10B, and 11B.   Similar markings on four of those pages seem to tell you where to find the other entries for that address.   There are also marking of the same type for line 67 on sheet 2B and line 4 on sheet 11A for other addresses.

David Rosen
Boston, MA



On 5/6/2021 5:02 PM, Deborah Barr via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
I am most grateful to all the kind people who responded to the question I posted yesterday. Unfortunately, I said rightmost when I meant leftmost!

I meant to ask about the leftmost few columns for house number, etc., which were only filled in for the first person in the family and normally would be blank for the other family members.

In this case, something has been written in columns 2-4. Next to Bernard it looks something like "(illegible) 2 els". Next to Edith it looks like "F see 68 & 99".

I have never seen anything like this before. I thought maybe the "99" referred to line 99, which is Bernard. But Line 68 is for a child of another family unconnected to this one as far as I know. I don't have much hope of figuring this out but thought maybe someone might have an idea.

Again, thank you all who responded yesterday and my apologies for my error.

Deborah Barr
San Francisco, CA


Re: Announcing the publication of the Yizkor Book of ZINKOV #ukraine

Susan Rosin
 

The Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project is proud to announce its 123rd title:
Zinkov Memorial Book (Zinkiv, Ukraine).
The original book was Published in Tel Aviv and New York in 1966.
Project Coordinators: Susan and Shawn Dilles
Cover Design: Rachel Kolokoff-Hopper
Layout and Name Indexing: Jonathan Wind
Hard Cover, 8.5" by 11", 276 pages with all original illustrations and
photographs.
The book is available from JewishGen for $29

The Yizkor Book captures the history of Zinkov in good times and bad, of
vibrant life in the town, and of the efforts by some to make aliyah to
Israel or to depart for the west. Describing the living town of Zinkov -
however briefly - brings into focus what was lost during the nightmare years
when the Jews in Zinkov were systematically murdered, bringing over 300
years of history to an end. The Zinkov Committee understood that it is
imperative for personal accounts of this dark period be documented,
remembered and recounted, and this is why the book was written - and why we,
the project coordinators undertook to translate it.

This Yizkor book contains many first-hand accounts and personal remembrances
of the survivors and immigrants from the town and serves as a fitting
memorial to this destroyed Jewish community and in addition bears witness to
its destruction.

For the researchers, this book contains a wealth of both genealogical and
cultural information that can provide a picture of the environment of our
ancestors.

Consider this book as a gift for a family member or a friend.

For all our publications see: https://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/ybip.html

For ordering information see:
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Zinkov.html

Susan Rosin
Yizkor Books In Print


CORRECTION: Help with notations on 1930 Census record (reposting from yesterday with correction) #records

Deborah Barr
 

I am most grateful to all the kind people who responded to the question I posted yesterday. Unfortunately, I said rightmost when I meant leftmost!

I meant to ask about the leftmost few columns for house number, etc., which were only filled in for the first person in the family and normally would be blank for the other family members.

In this case, something has been written in columns 2-4. Next to Bernard it looks something like "(illegible) 2 els". Next to Edith it looks like "F see 68 & 99".

I have never seen anything like this before. I thought maybe the "99" referred to line 99, which is Bernard. But Line 68 is for a child of another family unconnected to this one as far as I know. I don't have much hope of figuring this out but thought maybe someone might have an idea.

Again, thank you all who responded yesterday and my apologies for my error.

Deborah Barr
San Francisco, CA


100 Year old Birth Certificate #records

neilan1
 

On  March 31th, of this year, my mother-in-law celebrated her 100th birthday. She had been born in Rotterdam, as her family, exiting their former lives in Russia, were on their way to  America.  One hundred years later, I placed a request, on this website, asking if anyone knew how I could obtain a copy of her original birth certificate, which she never had. By the following day, I had several wonderful suggestions on how to proceed. Piet Hoekstra, who was monitoring this site, and Mr. Freddy Walhof, of the Dutch Genealogical Society, combined to assist me in reaching the necessary municipal office, which is sending the Birth Certificate, even as I write. 
Thank you to all who participated and sent your suggestions. You helped to make a 100 year old lady, (and her family), very happy.

Neilan Stern

searching:  Stern, Pistrong, Holland Stieglitz - Radomysl Wielki Poland; Aronovsky, Cohen- Vilijampole Lithuania; Black, Schwarz, Lapin, Bezner - Nesvizh, Minsk Belarus


Caution: malicious email claiming to come from Alexandre Beider #general

Peter Cohen
 

An email (in French) is circulating, claiming to come from Alexander Beider. It is not from him (although hackers appear to have gotten his address book). DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK.
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Peter Cohen
California


Extraordinary Cemetery Cleanup in Lyubar, Ukraine Happening Now #ukraine

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt
 

Please contact me offline if you would like updates to the extraordinary Jewish cemetery cleanup project happening now in Lyubar, Ukraine. A team headed by Viktor Vahofsky of Novograd-Volynsk is commuting daily to Lyubar with chainsaws, machetes, shovels, and a professional photographer to clear the overgrowth and trees, upright the stones, and clean them for photographing. On the first day, over 500 digital images and videos for about 50 stones were loaded to a shared drive. It is estimated, there are 300-400 stones total to record. This is a truly a Herculean task. I visited Lyubar two years ago and these hundreds of stones were literally covered by a jungle of full grown trees and undergrowth that made them invisible from the perimeter fence. Join our Lyubar Town group and keep up to date on progress.

Last year, this same team did a similar project in Pulin, Ukraine and will likely be headed to another nearby town in the future. Stay tuned as we progress through this area of what was once part of the administrative district of Novograd-Volynsk in Volhynia Guberniya. We are very excited for this opportunity!

--
Ellen Shindelman Kowitt
Director, US Research Division
Colorado
ekowitt@...


Re: nad Dneper info for Belarus? #belarus #general

Gerald and Margaret
 

You might want to contact The Together Plan, a Jewish charity based  in London and Minsk that is helping Jews there become more self sufficient.  One of their projects is doing genealogical research for people with family connections in Belarus.  They have the huge advantage of knowing all the relevant languages, as well as being very familiar with local bureaucracies

www.thetogetherplan.com

Happy hunting,
Margaret Levin 
London UK


Sholem Aleichem: An Evening of Celebration #announcements #yiddish #russia #ukraine

Michael Rubin
 

In Sholem Aleichem's will, he stipulated that friends and family convene every year to commemorate the anniversary of his death. In that spirit, Dartmouth is meeting online on Sunday, May 9th to celebrate his legacy and discuss his significance with a panel discussion, video clips of his work in performance, and a recitation of his final testament in Yiddish and in English.

Michael Rubin
Boston, MA


crew records for Russian Jewish merchant seamen Asia-Pacific 1910-20 #general

Ron Henkoff
 

My paternal grandfather emigrated from Grodek, Poland to the US in 1909; then served as a merchant seamen in Asia-Pacific from about 1915 to 1920. He lived for a time in Japan and Australia. On Ancestry.com I have found just two ship's manifests with his name: Tokyo-Sydney in 1917 and Sydney-San Francisco in 1920. He settled in the US permanently in 1920 Does anyone have any suggestions on where to look for shipping records from Asia-Pacific during this era. Or for records of Russian Jews living in Japan and/or Australia during that period?
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Ron Henkoff
Westport, Connecticut, USA


Burial records #general #records

Shelley Mitchell
 

 
Can anyone tell me whether this organization is known to anyone to be legitimate?
 
Thank you, Shelley Mitchell
shemit@...
 
Searching for TERNER, KONIGSBERG, GOLDSCHEIN, MOLDAUER, Galicia, primarily Kolomea,
                        TOPF, possibly Radautz, PLATZ, Delaytn.

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Shelley Mitchell, NYC    shemit@...
Searching for TERNER, GOLDSCHEIN, KONIGSBERG, SCHONFELD, in Kolomyya; PLATZ, in Delaytn; and TOPF, in Radautz and Kolomea.


Request Info on Chevra Anshei Shalom Khaidenev #usa

finejeffy@...
 

Two of my great grandparents, Julius Schiller and Rebecca Chanovitz Schiller are buried at the Mount Judah Cemetery in Queens, NY, in the landmanschaft area of the Chevra Anshei Shalom Khaidenev. I hope I have transliterated the name correctly. I haven't been able to find out much about this group. I don't think it still exists or maybe there are some members still in Israel. I am attaching a photo of the entrance to that area of the cemetery.

Thanks,

Jeff Fine
Montclair, NJ, USA
finejeffy@...
Family names/towns
Sekuran, Bessarabia (Shecter, Eisenberg)
Igumen, Minsk, Belarus (Ekelchik, Sussman)
Minsk(?) (Fine, Z(w)erlin)
Chason, Chasen, Chanovitz
Ulanow, Poland (Hassenfeld, Laufer, Reich, Ölbaum)


Denenberg, Norway #scandinavia

seth@...
 

No person with the name Denenberg appears in the index of the two volumes on Jews in Norway. Based on his story that may not be surprising.

Good luck,

Seth Jacobson

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