Re: Immigration research strategies when you only have old world data #records #usa

Adam Turner

Here are the search parameters and top search result of a search I did in Ancestry. I find wildcards tend to be really useful in these cases (for a man with the name Moshe, I'll start with "Mor*" for "Morris" and so forth, then try "Mos*" to turn up everyone with the English name Moses, Mose, and so forth).

The family in that top result in the 1900 census looks like it could potentially be a fit, especially if we think "Sire" is actually "Cire" on the manifest. (I wouldn't be suprised if a Cire - likely a Tsirel - took the name Celia in the US.) The main part that gives me pause is that the age of the daughters is shifted about 3 years from what is on the manifest. But maybe this is a decent jumping-off point.

Adam Turner

What would be the correct Bar Mitzvah date in 1961 #general

Jx. Gx.

Can someone please tell me what would be the correct bar mitzvah date for a cousin who was born on August 17, 1948 or point me to a website that can calculate the correct date?  I have two likely dates, but I'm not sure which is the correct one: July 22 or July 29, 1961.  Thank you.

Jeffrey Gee

Immigration research strategies when you only have old world data #records #usa

David Levine

Hi everyone,

The researchers I am working with in Belarus (JHRG) identified a line of my family I never knew about.
One of the families in that in that line immigrated to the U.S. via NY in 1897-1899

It was a couple with two daughter. The husband (Moische Zamostchar) came first
The wife (Beile Zamostcher) with the girls (Sire, Dine) in 1899 (youngest was 2 so that helps date the father's arrival)
I found the manifest for the wife and 2 daughters in 1899 and it says they are going to the Husband (attached)
The last name appears in Ancestry's and Steve Morse's database for the wife's manifest
However the name is in the database for the husband's arrival nor for anything else at Ancestry, MyHeritage and Family Search

This is the opposite of the usual problem where I know their American names and are trying to find when they immigrated, where they from / going, and their old world names
Does anyone have and advice on searching "forward" in time in the U.S.?
They must be there. My initial searches on names, ages, similar names, has found nothing
Being the opposite of the usual search (I know their old world data and have a manifest for three of four but no other U.S. records), I am not sure how to proceed.

Thanks in advance

Best Regards,
David Levine
San Francisco, CA, USA
Weinstein -> Solotwina, Galicia | Frisch, Hilman, Jungerman, Schindler -> Rozniatow, Galicia | Golanski, Kramerofsky/Kromerovsky -> Kiev | Lefkowitz -> Petrikov, Belarus | Shub, Rosen Hlusk, Belarus | Levine, Weiner, Zamoshkin -> Slutsk, Belarus 

Re: Synagogue in Vienna #austria-czech #general

Neil Kominsky

If, in fact, the marriage took place in the synagogue, you may safely assume that the bride converted.  Liberal European rabbis did not--generally, still don't--officiate at marriages unless both partners are Jewish as of the time of the wedding.
Neil Kominsky
Brookline, MA, USA

article about Viennese Jews who escaped to U.K. via Manchester Guardian advertisements #austria-czech #unitedkingdom #holocaust


Julian Borger, World Affairs Editor for The Guardian, wrote a very interesting article about Viennese Jews who escaped to the United Kingdom in 1938 and 1939 via classified ads placed in the Manchester Guardian.  This appeared in a special 200th anniversary edition of the newspaper.

Martin Tompa
Seattle, WA, USA

Searching for Hermann Levi, composer and conductor #germany

Yvonne Stern

A friend of mine is looking for data about her great-great  uncle, the conductor and composer 
Hermann Levi. (born 1839, in Giessen, and died 1900, in Muenchen). He was  the son of a Rabbi. and is  considered one of the 
very best conductors of his timeAmong his few compositions stands out a  Cantata performed at the inauguration of the Mannheim   Synagogue 
on 29th Aug. 1855. entitled  " Oh, wie schoen sind deine Zelte, Jakob"
 (Oh, how goodly are thy tents, Jacob.).   While the text  of this Cantata is known,  the score  is missing. Any idea of the whereabouts  of  the score of this Cantata is  highly appreciated.
Yvonne Stern
Rio de Janeiro

Re: HECKSCHER in Hamburg #germany

Allan Goldstein

I thought it may be of interest that in Suffolk County, New York there are two parks named for August Heckscher who i believe was born in Hamburg, Germany.   He was a well known philanthropist on Long Island in the early twentieth century.  
Allan Goldstein

Samuel and/orRaizel HOSHLAND, maybe from latvia? #latvia

Ancestry Mail

Trying to locate any information about the husband and wife "Samuel Hoshland" and "Raizel Hoshland".
(The surname "Hoshland" may not be correct.)
-  They may be from Latvia.
- They might have been born between 1830 and 1953.
-  Raizel's maiden name might be "Levitt."

Ella Mullens

The 1938 Annual Report of the Ashkenazi Community in Cairo #general # sephardic #general #names

Abuwasta Abuwasta

The 1938 Annual Report of the Ashkenazi Community in Cairo was posted in the files of the Hebrew Facebook Group "The Exodus From Egypt And Back" It is the most recent document there. It is in French and contains invaluable information. From page 15 onwards one may find most of the names of the members of that community. I received it from Mr. Didier Frenkel From Paris Here is the link
It is recommended to read it from a computer and not a cellular phone.

Jacob Rosen


Zhitomir name #ukraine

Molly Staub



Dear Genners, I've been searching for my maternal great grandmother's maiden name for decades, with no results. She was known in the family as Riva the Booba (meaning midwife). She married my ggf Yishea/Ovshiy Berensohn and they then lived in Krasnoye, Podolia Gubernia. Their son, my gf Shmuel/Sam Berenson, was born there in 1880. I know she delivered Harry Loigman(1892), Ida Loigman (1893), and Victor Loigman (1904) in Krasnoye. Now, there was a large group in Philadelphia, the Gershman family, who attended all our family functions. I never knew how we were related. They came from Zhitomir and the farthest back I've gotten was Leib Gershman. In Pennsylvania, my aunt Rive/Rebecca Berenson was born in 1915, so I assume she was named after my ggm Riva --who presumably died between 1905 (when an older sibling was born) and my aunt's birth. Does anyone who is researching Zhitomir find any of this familiar?
Many thanks, Molly Arost Staub 

BERENSON (Krasnoye, Ukraine)
SHTOFMAN (Bessarabia)



Molly Arost Staub

Boca Raton, FL

E-mail staubmolly@...


Re: descendants of Cecilia SOLOMON (or SLOMAN) #unitedkingdom #general

Sherri Bobish


Have you seen Cecilia SOLOMON / SOLOMAN on the 1881 UK census?
Born 1871 in London.
Parents: Morris Joseph Soloman &
Lucy Soloman
Siblings:  Lucy, Morris, Charles Joseph, George, Ada.
Brother-in-law living with them:  Frederick ELLIOTT

You may want to do further research to prove / disprove if this is the Lucy SOLOMON that you seek.


Sherri Bobish

Re: Request Info on Chevra Anshei Shalom Khaidenev #usa

Sherri Bobish


"Khaidenev" (Koidenav in Yiddish) = Dzyarzhynsk, Belarus

"Traditional/Orthodox Chevrah Anshe Sholom Koidonov (1920-5) at 33 Jefferson Street "

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

The surname RAPPEL #poland

Peter Pichler

My grandmother, born in 1864, came from Rzeszow in (now) Poland.  Her maiden name was RAPPEL.  Does anyone know the origin of the surname?


Peter Pichler



Discounts on DNA tests thru Mother's Day #dna

Erica Fox Zabusky

Last month I attended a webinar about DNA testing, and we learned that many companies would be offering a discount for National DNA Day on April 25th. I missed that deadline, but learned that companies offer a Mother's Day discount through Sunday, May 9th. The companies I found with offers are: 
1. Ancestry - $60 (down from $100); 
2. Family Tree DNA - $60 (down from $80), with option to add mtDNA for $140 (down from $160); and 
3. My Heritage - $60 (down from $80). 
It was suggested we get 2 tests done - one with Ancestry and one with 23andMe, as they don't allow transfer of data between the two. I'm curious about Family Tree, as they are affiliated with JewishGen, but have a much smaller database (with likely a higher percentage of Jews in it than the others), and My Heritage, which is a newer company. Should I spring for 2 tests, one with Ancestry and another one? Or just start Ancestry and wait for the next holiday discount to purchase another test?

Erica Fox Zabusky

FRYDMAN - Sochaczew

GELBSTEIN – Sochaczew, New York

ZABUSKI – Bedzin, Czestochowa, Sochaczew

BRAUN, PANKOWSKI - Czestochowa

FIKSEL - Slavuta, Izyaslav / Zaslav, Kharkov

RUDMAN - Slavuta, Izyaslav / Zaslav, Odessa

FOX (FIKSEL) – Boston, St. Louis
Erica Fox Zabusky
5871 Aylesboro Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15217
cell: 267.258.6640

Erica Fox Zabusky
ZABUSKI - Czestochowa, Sochaczew
FRYDMANN - Sochaczew
BRAUN, PANKOWSKI - Czestochowa
FIKSEL, RUDMAN - Izaslav, Slavuta, Odessa, Kharkov
POLISZUK, GOLDMAN - Izaslav, Slavuta

UJGS Meeting - Monday May 10th #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Banai Lynn Feldstein

The next UJGS Meeting is on Monday, May 10th, at 6:30pm MDT.

We will have Angie Bush speaking about "Endogamy and Your DNA Matches".

All are welcome to join.

If you find value in our webinars, and attend many, consider joining
our society to help support it.

Banai Lynn Feldstein
Utah JGS Webmaster
Banai Lynn Feldstein
Professional Genealogist
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Denenberg, Norway #scandinavia

Peter Lobbenberg

Seth, the context of your posting is unclear - entering Denenberg in the search box gives no hits.  Can you explain?  And what is "his story" to which you refer?

Meanwhile however, for what it's worth, I have found on a Sidney Dean or Denenberg, son of Lazarus Denenberg of Bialystok, who died on 5 July 1942 in Lørenskog in Norway aged 48 (born 21 May 1894) and lies buried in the local cemetery.

Best wishes
Peter Lobbenberg, London, UK

This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #JewishGenUpdates

Bruce Drake

“Letters from Dotnuva” in Lithuania is not a Yizkor book but is part of JewishGen’s Yizkor book collection. They provide a unique and very personal account of an extended family, some of whom remained in Dutnova, some who immigrated to New York and others that made Aliyah to Israel and recounted what they faced there.
The central character is Freida Shapira who went to live with a beloved aunt in Forest Hills, N.Y. in the mid-1930s. In 1998, after Freida's death in New-York, her son Norman Danzig found a collection of letters that had been sent to her; more than half were written in Yiddish and the rest in Hebrew. (If you follow the links on each letter, you will see photocopies of the originals). Most of the letters are from family members to Frieda, beseeching her to write more about how she is and what she’s doing, worrying about her health and grieving with her after her aunt died.
But I’ll start this excerpt with a letter Freida wrote two weeks after arriving with New York in 1935.
“Last Sunday we drove with our uncle many hours to see the city,” she wrote.” I lifted my head up to see the height of the tall buildings, but it's hard to see the end of them. There are long streets which belong to Rockefeller. One building, they say, has eighty stories. I started counting, but I couldn't hold my head up for so long.”
But she was also thinking of home and family.
“What about you? How do you feel? I can imagine you waking up at 5 in the morning where it's cold and dark, but what there is to do? Do you wear the warm coat? Do you have warm socks? What do you hear from the family at home? Write the truth to me about the home and family and everything that is happening to you. Oh how much I want to know about everything.”

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel

Re: Synagogue in Vienna #austria-czech #general


Hi Robert,

You are right, this synagogue in the Siebenbrunnengasse does not exist anymore. By chance, a friend of mine, of Jewish descent, lives in the house which was built instead on this ground. He did not know and only when doing research on Jewish roots in the 5th Viennese district he found this out. I have a book on the Jewish heritage of this district and will have a look. I let you know what I find out.

Best regards,

Alexander Burstein

Re: Contacting National Archives of Belarus? #belarus


Archives in the former Soviet Union have a hierarchical 3-part identification of specific documents.  Fond might have hundreds or thousands of "opis".  Each opis might have hundreds or thousands of "delo" (the actual documents).  These documents in turn could be anywhere from a handful to thousands of pages.  When you request documents from the archives, you need to be precise in what you ask, if you expect to get a quick and exact turnaround.  This request is almost an equivalent of writing a letter to your city's central library and asking them "I understand that you have books that start with a letter M and someone once borrowed one of these books and translated it into another language.  How can I take a look at these books?"

If you found some lists online with the census information, most likely they will contain a reference to the actual archival documents and might look like "NHAB 2151-444-13".  They should also have a name of the archive, most often an acronym - NHAB (National Historical Archive of Belarus), or NHAB Grodno (National Historical Archive of Belarus at Grodno), or LVIA (Lithuanian State Historical Archive), etc.  Think of that name as a city, fond - street, opis - building number, delo - apartment or office.
From what I understand, Belarus archives will not send you the entire census/vital records book (unless you are onsite in their reading room), only scans of the specific pages, records, or families in the document.  You will need to specify who you are looking for in the document.

If you do not have exact ID of the document, try to be exact with what you are looking for and skip any information that is not going to be relevant to the archivist - it's not relevant to them what the relationships are, where these people lived after they left the area, etc. You will need to know their names as they used them in the old country, if the names changed after they came to the US, that's not going too be helpful to the archivist.  Specify that you looking for a person named X Y, who lived in town Z in years 18## to 18## and they were of Jewish faith.  You are looking for census and metrical (vital) records that might contain information about this person.  List other family members if necessary.  Having precise dates or at least a range of dates will help them look for the specifics or identify which records might be missing, that would have information about the person.

I have not dealt with Belarus archives myself, but from what I understand, they are easy to work with.

Mike Vayser

P.S. as far as I know, RAGAS is Russian-American Genealogical Archive Service.

Re: nad Dneper info for Belarus? #belarus #general

Diane Jacobs

Try Yad Vashem database for testimonies submitted a land list of those murdered or sent to other places in the Soviet Union .

I found there which of my great grandfathers siblings and descendants either emigrated,
survived, or were murdered this way.

Diane  Jacobs

On May 7, 2021, at 2:23 AM, brianna.knoppow@... wrote:

Thank you - yes - I have his surname from his marriage certificate from a Belarus database. Alas, I have not found him on any other sources and I think likely he did not immigrate. The marriage certificate also lists his father's name. I'm trying to find out 1) what happened to him and his wife; 2) the name of his brothers.

The JewishGen Belarus database is throwing me off a little bit. It has a lot of good info that I am reviewing, however it also has a lot of the results show a list of what's technically available, but not up on JewishGen and translated. For example, It states that to access the records I must "LDS microfilms, or at the National Historical Archives of Belarus in Minsk." Am I missing something?

Brianna Knoppow
Washington DC (from Michigan)


Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

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