Request for translation of message (written in Yiddish) on back of photo postcard #translation #yiddish


Dear Genners,

I'd be grateful for a translation of the message on this postcard (scans of front and back attached).

With appreciation, 

Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey

(Ottoman Empire) Lists of Young Jewish Men Exemptions #announcements #records

Jan Meisels Allen


The Jewish Telegraphic Agency combined lists of Jewish surnames from the cities of Baghdad, Damascus, Cairo and Alexandria with more to come.  They made the lists into a searchable database:

Originally the four lists were first published by the website Avotaynu Online


In the late 1800’s the Ottoman Empire was looking to conscript men into its army including young Jewish men from the city of Baghdad.  The Jewish community did not like this idea so it arranged to pay authorities for exemptions.  Rabbi Shlomo Bekhor Husin of Baghdad documented the exemptions, carefully jotting each down name in medieval Rashi script.  The lists survived and are now in the National Library of Israel in Jerusalem on microfilm.


Retired Israeli diplomat-- he served as Israel’s ambassador to Jordan from 2006 to 2009-- and independent researcher-- Jacob Rosen-Koenigsbuch has read and translated every single one of the nearly 3,500 names on Husin’s lists.  Rosen-Koenigsbuch published the list of Jewish surnames from the aforementioned four cities..the cities of Basra, Mosul and Erbil are up next.


To read more see:


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Searching for Hermann Levi, composer and conductor #germany


On the score repository there are two of his published opuses:  a set of 6 Lieder and a piano concerto. I don’t know this cantata, but I’m quite curious. I teach a course in the spring on Jewish composers.  If you email me I do have a book that discusses his music in one chapter (at least, that is my recollection; it’s been a year since  I taught the course and we had to go online suddenly, so that part got cut, so it’s been a while since I taught this (though I am again next year).  I think I have the book at home. Jeanne Swack

Bayside cemeteries Mokkom Shalom #usa #records

David Lewin

The late Florence Marmor headed a project collecting the burial data and the associated death certificates of the Makkom Shalom cemeteries in Bayside, NY.   I have collated that data into an Excel spreadsheet with 32,303 entries and would like to place it as a permanently accessible data set and memorial to Florence on the World Wide Web.

I know that David Gevertzman, David Priever and   Maurice Kessler plus "other volunteers" were instrumental in collecting this data for Florence, and would like to hear from anyone who knows about these individuals.

Is anyone continuing this project today?

Please write directly to me at  david@...

David Lewin

JGS Toronto. Free Virtual Meeting. Sharing Data on Genealogical Websites: Uses and Abuses. Henry Blumberg. Wednesday, 26 May 2021, 7:30 p.m.. ET. #events

Jerry Scherer


Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto


Sharing Data on Genealogical Websites: Uses and Abuses


Speaker: Henry Blumberg

Virtual meeting: View from home

Wednesday, 26 May 2021, 7:30 p.m. ET.


In an age of burgeoning technology, genealogists have concerns that relate to genealogy websites, their uses and possible abuses. These include issues of privacy, user agreements, facial recognition, data mining, ownership of data, sharing DNA information with testing companies, surveillance capitalism, and genealogical manipulation and fraud.
Henry Blumberg is a barrister in Toronto. He is on the Board of JGS Toronto, has served three terms as convener of the Latvia SIG, and two terms on the Board of Governors of JewishGen. He has presented at twelve IAJGS conferences and was a speaker in Riga at the “Names and Fates Project” in June 2008, as well as at International Conferences on “Jews in a Changing World” in 2011 and in 2014.

To register, please go to


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Jerry Scherer

Vice President, Communications





In Advance of Shavuot: Salad Recipes from Sarina’s Sephardic Cuisine #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll

We invite you to attend the next presentation in our series of JewishGen Talks webinars:
In Advance of Shavuot: Salad Recipes from Sarina’s Sephardic Cuisine
Speaker: Sarina Roffé
Tuesday, May 11, 2021 @ 2:00 PM Eastern Time
Registration is free with a suggested donation.
About the Talk
Cookbook author Sarina Roffé will use recipes from her cookbook to demonstrate the art of mezze, typically served before a meal in the Middle East, or before the Sabbath lunch meal. A proper mezze table will have at least four to six salads, served on small plates. Sarina will demonstrate how to make several salads and show us how to set the mezze table. Sarina Roffé is a career journalist and holds a BA in journalism, an MA in Jewish Studies and an MBA. She is the editor of Dorot for JGS of NY, the author of Branching Out from Sepharad, Backyard Kitchen: Mediterranean Salads, and Backyard Kitchen: The Main Course. Sarina speaks often at genealogy ad historical conferences and has written hundreds of articles. She has researched numerous genealogies and is considered an expert in Syrian Jewry. She is a former member of the IAJGS board, Chair of the JewishGen Sephardic Research Division, co-chair of the Brooklyn Jewish Historical Initiative and founder of the Sephardic Heritage Project. Sarina presents often at IAJGS and historical conferences and has completed over a dozen genealogies, through her genealogy consulting business, Sephardic Genealogical Journeys.
Registration is free with a suggested donation.
Please click here to register now! After registering, you will receive a confirmation email about how to join the webinar.
Please click here

Ataki, Mogilev-Podolskiy, Mogilevskie Ataki #bessarabia #ukraine

Yefim Kogan

Hello everybody,

You may remember I wrote a post where listed new records found, and one from Mogilevskie Ataki.  I assumed that this is Ataki close to Mogilev-Podolskiy, because there is also another town named Ataki, not far from Khotin.  Also both towns where in Khotin uezd until middle of 19c, after the Ataki accross Mogilev-Podolskiy became part of Soroki uezd.

In the Revision list we found  it is written "mestechko Mogilevskie Ataki". I tried to search in English and Russian a place named Mogillevskie Ataki,  but nothing found.  Records are from 1835, and it was in Khotin uezd at that time.

Here I found an interesting site you can easily translate into English using Chrome, maybe other browsers too.  It tells how these two towns Ataki and Mogilev-Podolskiy connected, and how people easily go from one country to another...

Hope to start working on the records soon...

Let me know if you have any questions.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia Group Leader and Coordinator

Re: Looking for the street in Warsaw #warsaw #general


The whole of the Jewish section of Warsaw was flattened and obliterated after the Warsaw uprising. Photos at the Polin Museum show the thorough destruction of this area. My mother and her family lived on Ul. Pavia which was one very long street. When I visited Warsaw in 2018 I found that Ul. Pavia was rebuilt to include crossroads and possibly with houses renumbered. 

Geoff Ackerman 

Re: Translation Hungarian to English #translation


Hello Mr Magocsi,                                                                                                           8th May 2021

looking at your request: 
In my assertion there  are three different birth records:
11.--Sali--might be short for Rosalia -in Hungarian--Jewish name -Baby Suri/Sara --lany/girl  born 3rd June 1878   Torvenyes--meaning /legal/ within Wedlock

12. Jozsef--Jewish Name Josef/Josuf--born 25th June 1878--torvenyes/legal  --  born within wedlock//meaning parents were married  prior to the baby was born.
                    Fiu/ boy--  father's name Gelb Herman--( Family name GELB--first name Herman--in Hungarian at times the letter 'a' had a dash --leading  to the pronunciation of the letter 'a' without the 'dash' being slightly different 
Sadly, in my understanding Baby Jozsef passed away_- in 'Nagy-Ida'--I wonder?  on the 12th or 14th of Teves??

---On a different note: interestingly--My late father-in law's  mother was    ;Nee  Pepi--GELB--( GELB Pepi )  around 1870??

13: baby Eliaz  --born 1878--  fiu/boy  Jewish name -- Sruli? I wonder  short for Yisroel?  Torvanyes /Baby was born also within wedlock

Best wishes to evrybody
Veronika Pachtinger
London UK

Re: Looking for the street in Warsaw #warsaw #general


I believe it was Gęsia street (ulica) which was located near the Jewish cemetery. The street’s name, as well as the city’s name were misspelled (most likely by a foreigner). 

Dr. Joanna Zimmerman 

How to find tax records? #general


I have read some of your posts where many of you reference learning about your family's occupations via reading tax records. Where does a person find tax records from the old country? (Belarus, Minsk, Mogilev, Kozelets, Ukraine, Yasi, etc.)

Brianna Knoppow
Washington DC (from Michigan)


Re: Synagogue in Vienna #austria-czech #general

Andreas Schwab

The Jewish BMD registers for all Jewish Kehilot in Austria are kept at the V
ienna Kenilllah. See: has Indices from Jewish births, marriages since 1826, deaths since 1866, all up to 1910.
(You have first to register for free and login.)
For records after 1910 I think you have to contact the arhcives directly or find somebody in Vienna to go to the archives in person, but the archives are currently closed to the general public due to COVID-19. 
Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada

Re: Synagogue in Vienna #austria-czech #general

E. Randol Schoenberg

Elizabeth Horen-Cotter wrote: 
> Armed with this historical snippet, you, like me, will understand why the Jewish records from approximately 94 synagogues > (amount of synagogues in 1938) are hard to find.
I am sure much was lost, but copies of the birth, marriage and death record books still exist for the outlying districts as well as the Stadttempel in Vienna.  The indices are searchable on
Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA

jewish fighter from UNNA in the war 1870/71 #germany

Mike Redel

Dear gersigs,

I know that 8 jewish persons from Unna fight in war 1870/71. One of
them was woundet an the other was an Unteroffizier at the end.

Where can I find their names and more infos about the 8 persons.


Mike Redel - Unna - Germany

Re: What would be the correct Bar Mitzvah date in 1961 #general

Stephen Weinstein

Mine was about 3 months after my birthday because we didn't schedule them for winter due to the risk of snow.

On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 06:28 AM, sharon yampell wrote:

my son was born on December 15th and his Bar Mitzvah was not until January… this was what was available AFTER he turned 13…


Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, New Jersey

MODERATOR NOTE: I had the same issue. I was born December 21 and my Bar Mitzvah was not until January 3

Stephen Weinstein
Camarillo, California, USA

Re: What would be the correct Bar Mitzvah date in 1961 #general

Jx. Gx.

I received the Chabad calendar link from Jeri Freidman and from three other people who generously responded to me directly. Fortunately, one person did the calculation for me at and gave me the correct date of July 29,1961 for my cousin's bar mitzvah. I was doing something wrong and kept getting an incorrect date.  The Chabad calendar calculations fell short by a couple of days. The same thing happened when I used it for my own DOB/bar mitzvah. It incorrectly said my bar mitzvah date was Thursday, Jan 21.  But when I moved that weekday to the next shabbat it was correct, Jan. 23.  I did the same thing with my cousin's data.  Chabad calculated his bar mitzvah as Tues, July 25.  Move it up to the next shabbat and there it was the correct date of July 29.

Jeffrey Gee
Arizona, USA  

Netherlands Family Cards 1919-1939 Are Available Online #announcements #records

Jan Meisels Allen




Friesland is a province of the Netherlands knowns a Fresia, located in the northern part of the country.  The West-Fries Archief has made the family cards 1919-1939 available on online—again.  They had been removed in 2018 due advice of  the Society of Municipalities in the Netherlands- to remove the family cards of 1921-1940 to limit availability of the records for 110 years  as they contain information on religious denominations and some persons in the cards were still living.  This was a reaction to  the then new privacy regulations  (General Data Protection Regulation-GDPR) disallowed publication of cards containing living people. Volunteers have entered the birth dates of the people on the cards so the website can automatically detect which cards contain people who were born less than 100 years ago.


To visit the WestFries Archives for the list of names go to:  It is in Dutch add English.  You can click on the person’s name and it will provide a link to records for that person.


Having information of where people lived at the beginning of World War ll, 1939, is important when tracing back. They were part of the registration process. In 1920, the address-based registration was converted into a family-based registration. For each family, their information was collected on a family card. If the family moved, the card went with them. The system was changed into a personal registration in 1938 with the introduction of the personal index card.


Personal record cards were introduced in 1938 to replace the old family-based registration. The municipalities kept personal record cards for every inhabitant. If a person moved to another municipality, his index card was forwarded there. It can be thought of as an ‘administrative twin’ that follows you around your entire life.


The personal record cards from 1938 onward are not public to protect the privacy of living people. After a person dies, his or her card or record from the municipal basic administration is sent for processing to the Central Bureau of Statistics. When they are done with it, it is sent on to the Central Bureau for Genealogy (CBG) . Usually, it takes around two years for the cards to become available at the CBG.  Photocopies can be ordered from the CBG for a fee by filling in the application form and sending it to pkpl@.... See the CBG webpage (in Dutch and English)  about the current fees in Euros.


Photocopies can be ordered from the CBG for a fee by filling in the application form and sending it to pkpl@.... See the CBG webpage (in Dutch) about the current fees. Also see:


Thank you to Yvette Hoitink’s Dutch Genealogy News- April 2021 for sharing this information.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

“Meri-Leje Sapockaite’s Personal Journey” #announcements

Walter Rosenthal

On Wednesday May 12 at 1PM, The Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Beach County will offer “Meri-Leje Sapockaite’s Personal Journey” presented by Michael Herzlich. This story begins with a Cousin’s Club ­— one that surprisingly has a bound book of 20 years of Minutes!. It was one of Michael’s cousins, who said he had something for Michael from Miriam. “My mind raced to figure out who he was talking about. Miriam?”  This cousin was just a name until used his superb detective skills to unravel many little clues that led to discovering a cousin and her extended family, one of whom was the Rabbi who married Miriam and her husband.


His sources will include Arsolen Archives, Yad Vashem, Jewishgen resources of Viewmate, the Litvak Sig database and even Facebook. Open to members of JGSPBCI. Contact: waltrose864@...

Walter Rosenthal

Advice On How to Begin Bridging a Gap in Research #dna


I am looking for advice on how to bridge a very large gap between my Sicilian relatives and their Ashkenazi/Sephardic ancestors. I took a full sequence mtDNA test and it appears to confirm my hunches regarding the Jewish heritage of my ancestors as well as a separate mtDNA analysis that I had done previously. My problem: I can't get my research past the early 1700's where, at that point, they are in Sicily and appear to be true converts to the Catholic faith (but I can't be certain of anything). I did get an invitation to a tree today from a Russian match on FTDNA with pictures including their families maintaining their Jewish faith. I was so delighted!

So, as my first step, I contacted many matches at various levels from many different countries.  What else can I be doing? I know which countries that I still have at least one living relative in from the way that FTDNA does their matches. Other than that, without names, it's like looking for needles in haystacks!

Does anyone have any other suggestions on how to bridge this gap?

Thank you so much!
Connie Derosier Carter
Kissimmee, FL, Leominster, MA

Re: Zhitomir name #ukraine

Sherri Bobish


Here are a few ways you might find the maiden name of Sam Berenson's mother Riva:

If Sam married in The U.S. than his marriage record may contain his mother's maiden name.

Sam's death certificate may contain his mother's maiden name, but keep in mind that the info on a death cert is second-hand information.

If Sam was living in the mid-1930's than his original Social Security application (SS5) should contain his mother's maiden name.  Note that obtaining the SS5 is not free.
"You can make a request for a copy of a deceased person’s original Application for a Social Security Card (SS-5) and/or Numident record (a computer extract of the SS-5) in two ways: Hope this helps,

Sherri Bobish

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