Translation Request Hungarian? Slovak? #translation

Levi Berger

I have 2 documents from the 1920 census in Verkhnii Bystryi (Oberbistra) Ukraine. I’m not sure if they are written in Hungarian or Slovak. I tried to post them on viewmate but the resolution wasn’t clear enough. Here is a link to both documents, I can make out the names, dates and places but I would greatly appreciate it if someone could translate the rest.


 thanks so much,

Levi Berger 

Re: Discounts on DNA tests thru Mother's Day #dna

Robert Hanna


I meant to say you cannot transfer to Ancestry or 23 and me.

Robert Hanna

Re: Advice On How to Begin Bridging a Gap in Research #dna

Robert Hanna

My understanding (and I'm no expert) is that mitochondrial DNA does not mutate very often, so searching for specifics through mitochondrial DNA is difficult.  You would probably do better tracing through family DNA.  Even better, if you have close male relatives, Y-DNA is possibly more accurate.

Robert Hanna


Re: How to find tax records? #general

Deb(orah) Cohen Skolnik

My experience is that these tax records are in archives (if they exist at all) in the countries from which your ancestor came.  I think there are some in Jewishgen's records from those regions, but most seem to be accessible only if you have someone helping you search in those archives.  Unless you have a friend or relative who will search at not cost to you, this usually means paying for assistance.  Again, this was my experience.

Brianna, I have LIPSHITS in my family tree, too.  If your LIPSHITS family is from the Vitebsk region, I would love to talk with you privately to see if we can uncover a relationship.  

Deb(orah) Cohen Skolnik
Near Asheville, NC (but from Washington DC)


Re: What would be the correct Bar Mitzvah date in 1961 #general


You didn't say where that cousin lived and how observant that family was.  That's important.
For example, in metro NYC at the time, the date could hinge upon the availability of the synagogue as there might be other boys with similar birthdays. These children were from the BabyBoom.  A family might not wanted to share a date with other boys.

More observant families would more likely have the service the week of the birthday.

I never saw a bar mitzvah announced in a New York paper.  

Things would be different in each area.

Jessica Schein

LAZARUS Family, London 1840's #unitedkingdom

Scooby Doo

I know this is a shot in the dark, but am hoping I may have some luck by posting this.
David Woolf KING, born 1819 in Poland and whose family settled in Bristol in the 1820's, married Sarah LAZARUS born c.1822 in Poland, on 20 July 1842 in London.
I am part of the King and have traced that line but I am trying to find out more about Sara Lazarus and maybe find other members of her family.
According to "Marriage Records of the Great Synagogue London, 1791-1885- Harold & Miriam Lewin, Page 174":
Her Hebrew name was Reina bat Tuvia
Her father was noted as Goodman Lazarus
Address on 20 July 1842 was: Ebenezer Square, Aldgate, London, UK
David and Sarah had 11 children and the family landed up in the Indiana/Missouri region.
David & Sarah appear to have divorced 7 October 1875 
David and his 2 youngest sons are buried in Indianapolis
I have not been succesful in finding out what happened to Sarah King after their divorce.
Their eldest son, William born c.1843 in Bristol, and appears on the 1851 England Census, just "disappears" and 
I also haven't been able to trace what became of their son, Michael "Mike" King after the 1860 US Census, otherwise, all other kids accounted for.
Thank you for any any help
Dr Joel Levy
London, UK

Jewish records in Vienna #austria-czech

Jessica Skippon


A good source for records in Austria, especially Vienna, is the free

There are categories for Jewish resignations 1868-1945, Jewish converts, Jewish divorces 1870-1942, Waring cemetery, other Jewish cemeteries, an index of Jewish records and many, many non-Jewish general listings on the site.

 There is a listing for an index, Proselyten:

"The Index Proselyten, created by Univ.Doz. Dr. Anna Staudacher, refers to the double volume recently published by Publishing House Peter Lang: Proselyten und Rückkehr (Proselyten und Rückkehr - der Übertritt zum Judentum in Wien 1868-1914, Peter Lang Edition, ISBN 978-3-631-60683-4) - an inventory, the date of birth was added for the more detailed identification of the persons.

Part 1 - 569 pages - contains introductions to the sources and the topic in German and English as well as a marriage list of those who converted with the date of conversion (pages 217 - 563).

Part 2 - 827 pages - contains the data of the proselyte protocols in editorial form with a multitude of supplemental sources to the spouses, parents with their occupations and children, to rescissions, now and then also to changes of names - with a bilingual user guide."

Created and run by volunteers, all free.


Jessica Skippon

London, England

Researching SCHANZER, BORGER, BIRN, JACHZEL in Andrychow, Wadowice and Bielsko Biala in Galicia,


Re: article about Viennese Jews who escaped to U.K. via Manchester Guardian advertisements #austria-czech #unitedkingdom #holocaust

Alan Kolnik

This article shone an interesting light on some mysteries in my wife’s
family history

We have often wondered how my wife's aunt Gerda Neurath escaped from Austria
to a position as a maid for Miss Cohen, a magistrate, at 34 Manor Road,
Birmingham in 1939, and this article may provide the explanation.
Unfortunately, we will never know for sure.

Gerda’s cousin Rita Geiringer worked for a Mr. Lewinski at 73 Hamilton Ave
or 5 Portland Road and may also have been someone saved by one of these
advertisements in the Guardian.

I wonder if it was as a result of an advertisement in the Guardian like

Another relative, Max Hacker, whose father Isador Hacker married into the
Geiringer family, made it to Manila , possibly already married to Frieda
Vaisman or possibly they met in Manila. After the war they made it to
Chicago in the USA. He and his wife had a daughter Angelica who was born in
Manila, and this article finally provides us with an explanation of how this
may have happened.

Alan Kolnik
North Bethesda, MD, USA

Book search #poland #ukraine

Belinda Dishon

Does anyone have a copy of Benjamin Meirtchak. Jews-Officers in the Polish Armed Forces 1939-1945. Printed in Israel by SHLOMO LEVY Ltd please?

Belinda Dishon
Melbourne Australia

Re: Request for translation of message (written in Yiddish) on back of photo postcard #translation #yiddish


Our beloved uncle Mendel and dear aunt Sara Emtana¹


Your niece and nephew


Leitshe² and Avrohom


Ostrowetz³ ________* , 4 January 1938 _____*



1. Unclear what this last word on the 1st line means

2. May be a diminutive of Leah

3. There are more than 50 towns in several countries in Eastern Europe which has “Ostrow” as a part of its name. The illegible word following “Ostrowetz” may contain an indication as to what specific town is referred to here.

* Illegible

Seth Jacobson

Request for translation of message (written in Yiddish) on back of photo postcard #translation #yiddish


Dear Genners,

I'd be grateful for a translation of the message on this postcard (scans of front and back attached).

With appreciation, 

Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey

(Ottoman Empire) Lists of Young Jewish Men Exemptions #announcements #records

Jan Meisels Allen


The Jewish Telegraphic Agency combined lists of Jewish surnames from the cities of Baghdad, Damascus, Cairo and Alexandria with more to come.  They made the lists into a searchable database:

Originally the four lists were first published by the website Avotaynu Online


In the late 1800’s the Ottoman Empire was looking to conscript men into its army including young Jewish men from the city of Baghdad.  The Jewish community did not like this idea so it arranged to pay authorities for exemptions.  Rabbi Shlomo Bekhor Husin of Baghdad documented the exemptions, carefully jotting each down name in medieval Rashi script.  The lists survived and are now in the National Library of Israel in Jerusalem on microfilm.


Retired Israeli diplomat-- he served as Israel’s ambassador to Jordan from 2006 to 2009-- and independent researcher-- Jacob Rosen-Koenigsbuch has read and translated every single one of the nearly 3,500 names on Husin’s lists.  Rosen-Koenigsbuch published the list of Jewish surnames from the aforementioned four cities..the cities of Basra, Mosul and Erbil are up next.


To read more see:


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Searching for Hermann Levi, composer and conductor #germany


On the score repository there are two of his published opuses:  a set of 6 Lieder and a piano concerto. I don’t know this cantata, but I’m quite curious. I teach a course in the spring on Jewish composers.  If you email me I do have a book that discusses his music in one chapter (at least, that is my recollection; it’s been a year since  I taught the course and we had to go online suddenly, so that part got cut, so it’s been a while since I taught this (though I am again next year).  I think I have the book at home. Jeanne Swack

Bayside cemeteries Mokkom Shalom #usa #records

David Lewin

The late Florence Marmor headed a project collecting the burial data and the associated death certificates of the Makkom Shalom cemeteries in Bayside, NY.   I have collated that data into an Excel spreadsheet with 32,303 entries and would like to place it as a permanently accessible data set and memorial to Florence on the World Wide Web.

I know that David Gevertzman, David Priever and   Maurice Kessler plus "other volunteers" were instrumental in collecting this data for Florence, and would like to hear from anyone who knows about these individuals.

Is anyone continuing this project today?

Please write directly to me at  david@...

David Lewin

JGS Toronto. Free Virtual Meeting. Sharing Data on Genealogical Websites: Uses and Abuses. Henry Blumberg. Wednesday, 26 May 2021, 7:30 p.m.. ET. #events

Jerry Scherer


Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto


Sharing Data on Genealogical Websites: Uses and Abuses


Speaker: Henry Blumberg

Virtual meeting: View from home

Wednesday, 26 May 2021, 7:30 p.m. ET.


In an age of burgeoning technology, genealogists have concerns that relate to genealogy websites, their uses and possible abuses. These include issues of privacy, user agreements, facial recognition, data mining, ownership of data, sharing DNA information with testing companies, surveillance capitalism, and genealogical manipulation and fraud.
Henry Blumberg is a barrister in Toronto. He is on the Board of JGS Toronto, has served three terms as convener of the Latvia SIG, and two terms on the Board of Governors of JewishGen. He has presented at twelve IAJGS conferences and was a speaker in Riga at the “Names and Fates Project” in June 2008, as well as at International Conferences on “Jews in a Changing World” in 2011 and in 2014.

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In Advance of Shavuot: Salad Recipes from Sarina’s Sephardic Cuisine #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll

We invite you to attend the next presentation in our series of JewishGen Talks webinars:
In Advance of Shavuot: Salad Recipes from Sarina’s Sephardic Cuisine
Speaker: Sarina Roffé
Tuesday, May 11, 2021 @ 2:00 PM Eastern Time
Registration is free with a suggested donation.
About the Talk
Cookbook author Sarina Roffé will use recipes from her cookbook to demonstrate the art of mezze, typically served before a meal in the Middle East, or before the Sabbath lunch meal. A proper mezze table will have at least four to six salads, served on small plates. Sarina will demonstrate how to make several salads and show us how to set the mezze table. Sarina Roffé is a career journalist and holds a BA in journalism, an MA in Jewish Studies and an MBA. She is the editor of Dorot for JGS of NY, the author of Branching Out from Sepharad, Backyard Kitchen: Mediterranean Salads, and Backyard Kitchen: The Main Course. Sarina speaks often at genealogy ad historical conferences and has written hundreds of articles. She has researched numerous genealogies and is considered an expert in Syrian Jewry. She is a former member of the IAJGS board, Chair of the JewishGen Sephardic Research Division, co-chair of the Brooklyn Jewish Historical Initiative and founder of the Sephardic Heritage Project. Sarina presents often at IAJGS and historical conferences and has completed over a dozen genealogies, through her genealogy consulting business, Sephardic Genealogical Journeys.
Registration is free with a suggested donation.
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Ataki, Mogilev-Podolskiy, Mogilevskie Ataki #bessarabia #ukraine

Yefim Kogan

Hello everybody,

You may remember I wrote a post where listed new records found, and one from Mogilevskie Ataki.  I assumed that this is Ataki close to Mogilev-Podolskiy, because there is also another town named Ataki, not far from Khotin.  Also both towns where in Khotin uezd until middle of 19c, after the Ataki accross Mogilev-Podolskiy became part of Soroki uezd.

In the Revision list we found  it is written "mestechko Mogilevskie Ataki". I tried to search in English and Russian a place named Mogillevskie Ataki,  but nothing found.  Records are from 1835, and it was in Khotin uezd at that time.

Here I found an interesting site you can easily translate into English using Chrome, maybe other browsers too.  It tells how these two towns Ataki and Mogilev-Podolskiy connected, and how people easily go from one country to another...

Hope to start working on the records soon...

Let me know if you have any questions.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia Group Leader and Coordinator

Re: Looking for the street in Warsaw #warsaw #general


The whole of the Jewish section of Warsaw was flattened and obliterated after the Warsaw uprising. Photos at the Polin Museum show the thorough destruction of this area. My mother and her family lived on Ul. Pavia which was one very long street. When I visited Warsaw in 2018 I found that Ul. Pavia was rebuilt to include crossroads and possibly with houses renumbered. 

Geoff Ackerman 

Re: Translation Hungarian to English #translation


Hello Mr Magocsi,                                                                                                           8th May 2021

looking at your request: 
In my assertion there  are three different birth records:
11.--Sali--might be short for Rosalia -in Hungarian--Jewish name -Baby Suri/Sara --lany/girl  born 3rd June 1878   Torvenyes--meaning /legal/ within Wedlock

12. Jozsef--Jewish Name Josef/Josuf--born 25th June 1878--torvenyes/legal  --  born within wedlock//meaning parents were married  prior to the baby was born.
                    Fiu/ boy--  father's name Gelb Herman--( Family name GELB--first name Herman--in Hungarian at times the letter 'a' had a dash --leading  to the pronunciation of the letter 'a' without the 'dash' being slightly different 
Sadly, in my understanding Baby Jozsef passed away_- in 'Nagy-Ida'--I wonder?  on the 12th or 14th of Teves??

---On a different note: interestingly--My late father-in law's  mother was    ;Nee  Pepi--GELB--( GELB Pepi )  around 1870??

13: baby Eliaz  --born 1878--  fiu/boy  Jewish name -- Sruli? I wonder  short for Yisroel?  Torvanyes /Baby was born also within wedlock

Best wishes to evrybody
Veronika Pachtinger
London UK

Re: Looking for the street in Warsaw #warsaw #general


I believe it was Gęsia street (ulica) which was located near the Jewish cemetery. The street’s name, as well as the city’s name were misspelled (most likely by a foreigner). 

Dr. Joanna Zimmerman 

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