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Re: does anyone know this Yiddish expression? #yiddish

Rafael.Manory@...
 

From: Rafael Manory, PhD

Thanks Yitschok Margaretn for the detailed explanation. I was going to write that it is a Hebrew proverb, not an Yiddish one, and I also was aware of its  Talmudic origin. I am not aware of an English equivalent other than the direct translation. In Israel the expression is commonly used and  is traced to Pirkei Avot, as indicated.

Rafael Manory, PhD


Re: requests for translations #translation

Rafael.Manory@...
 

I have doing such transllations for years and never asked for payment, even though I am now a professional editor and translator.

Best regards

Rafael Manory, PhD


Re: Hebrew Cemetery, Asbury Park NJ #usa

Elana Broch
 

I'd suggest contacting Regina Fitzpatrick rfitzpatrick@njstatelib.org.  We have been working on a presentation on finding your dead relatives in NJ. I can send you her handy dandy cheat sheet, but I wasn't sure I could post an image on this website.   I ordered a death record months ago, but the archives are very much shut down.  


--
Elana Broch
Lawrenceville, NJ
elanabroch@...


In the Danzig addresses of the PERLBACH family there is Zugangsingel 5 which may have been a house of ill repute, was it and did the street name later on become Jopengasse? #gdansk

r.peeters
 

Among the various addresses for Joseph Levin PERLBACH I see Judengasse as the first one and later on different numbers at Jopengasse which may have been a matter of renumbering or not. Jopengasse Number 54 was acquired from the Schopenhauer family, they seemed far better premises than those of the one in the photo of Jopengasse 55 (ul. Piwna) which I found in an other file.
Can someone enlighten me?
Ron Peeters (NL)


Old Disease Names Frequently Found on Death Certificates: What Would They be Called Today? #names #general

Phil Goldfarb
 

The following came from Dick Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter today and might be useful to JewishGen Discussion Group members. As a 4th generation pharmacist and researcher for 35+ years, I did not know many of these!

Old Disease Names Frequently Found on Death Certificates: What Would They be Called Today?
  If you find a death certificate for great-great-grandma and it lists the cause of death as "Hectical Complaint," you probably will ask, "What's that?" Luckily, there is a one-page "dictionary" on USGenNet that can be a very useful tool for any genealogist who is reading old documents. It shows old medical terminology and then shows the modern-day name for each. You can find Old Disease Names Frequently found on Death Certificates at http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ar/county/greene/olddiseases1.htm


Phil Goldfarb
phil.goldfarb@...
President, JGS of Tulsa


Hebrew translation volunteer for cemetery project #usa #translation

A. E. Jordan
 

Hi
 
I have photographed a few cemetery plots which are entirely in Hebrew. Unfortunately it is beyond my time and Hebrew skills to translate the entire plot so what I was hoping is that someone might work with me so that the plot could be translated and put into a database. Ultimately it can get into the burial database so people can find the stones.
 
The first plot I have is 124 photos although some might be duplicates, unreadable, etc. I actually have a few such plots sitting on my computer waiting for attention beyond this one too.
 
What I am thinking is that I can upload the raw photos to someone along with the data from the cemetery either in a Word or spreadsheet document. Then it requires going through each photo and translating it and matching it to the listing and entering the Hebrew translated data to form the database. So you need Hebrew skills and some computer skills and available time. I appreciate everyone's enthusiasm to help but this requires good Hebrew skills as it is not really something to be practice on.
 
If anyone is interested email me off the list at aejordan at aol dot com and we can discuss what is involved.
 
Thank you.
 
Allan Jordan
New York
 


Re: What would be the correct Bar Mitzvah date in 1961 #general

David Ziants
 

A lot of details have been given on this thread concerning the orthodox and traditional way of doing things, and I want to add some more insights regarding this.

A) As someone correctly pointed out, also within orthodox Judaism, the concept of having a big party and the bar mitzva boy reading from the Torah and/or being called up for maphtir (i.e saying the haphtara) is relatively recent - maybe a few hundred years. Also among some  Eastern Sephardi communities (Aidot HaMizrach), a child from the age of nine or ten is already allowed to be called up for maphtir and say the haphtara, so this would not be a great deal with respect to Bar Mitzva which is age of 13, and the honors for a bar-mitzva boy in these communities is more towards reading from the Torah or leading the prayers.  

B) With regards to the party, then among the very orthodox and now-a-days this is becoming more main-stream, it has become common place to make the main party on the Hebrew birthday date itself. Then the first call up, might be the next Monday or Thursday depending on the day of the week (or Rosh Hodesh) as has already been mentioned - and with this maybe a small celebration.

C) During the last Corona year with the uncertainties involved, I have seen a few bar-mitzva boys from "Rabbinical" families, make do with a simple call up on Shabbat so they should not spend hours learning to read the parsha from the Torah only to find the Health regulations, when the day arrives, not allowing to have a minyan (quorum of ten men).

D) On a personal note - I was brought up in a household that kind of defined itself as "semi-traditional". So, the issues that bothered my parents, in the early 1970s in London,UK,  were:-

1) I was born on what is last day of Pesach in the diaspora. The issue was that the Rabbi's son was born a day or so after me, and my parent's realized that I would be completely out shadowed if I was called up on the next Shabbat.

2) It was expected that the main celebration would be on the Sunday following the Shabbat that I was being called up, since there were people coming from out of town and would be staying a few nights in London.

3) In England, it is the primary custom to keep the semi-mourning period of the Omer starting from the first day of Iyar, with a break on the semi-festival of lag ba'omer (33rd day of the Counting of the Omer). This would mean, that the main celebration (which to a certain extent had to conform to the religious issues) could not take place on this delayed date, as they wanted a band because that is what "everyone else" does. 

4) So in the end, I was called up on the Shabbat preceding lag ba'omer and the main party was on lag ba'omer which was a Sunday that year.

Although, from my parents' point of view they wanted to give as much honor to the situation as they could, if I was in charge as a parent as I am now, I would have made the flow a whole lot simpler, regardless of with whom a bar-mitzva shabbat might be shared or how to schedule the party. I was at a bar-mitzva party once, that was during the mourning period of the Omer, and instead of a band, there were "Swingle Singers" who enhanced the occasion.
 
--
David Ziants

Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel


JGASGP Meeting May 23rd #announcements #records #ukraine

Marilyn Golden
 

The Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society is inviting you to our next meeting on:
 
Date:  May 23, 2021
Time:
  1:00 PM EDT check in, chat, and schmooze

           Official program starts promptly at 1:30

Guest Speaker: Alex Krakovsky: Referred to by FamilySearch as “one of the most influential figures in modern Jewish genealogy”

Alex Krakovsky, a Jewish Ukrainian, is using freedom of information laws and the court system in Ukraine to force archives to allow him to scan their records and post them on a public website. 

 

Alex was born in Kyiv in 1982 and graduated Kyiv Polytechnic Institute in 2005. He started his own genealogy with a trip in 2011. Since then, he became involved in various Ukrainian archive projects. Most notable is Jewish towns (use Google’s Chrome browser and it’s translate function to view in English) with the goal to digitize and publish online all of the Jewish records in Ukraine. Alex spent years in Ukrainian archives finding various unknown Jewish lists and putting them online. He won many lawsuits with Ukrainian archives to make records open and available to everyone.

 

Topic: Tracing Jewish Ancestors from Ukraine: Why Many Researchers Fail and How to Succeed.
The Internet is full of typical questions like "my Rabinovich ancestors came to the US from Berdychiv in the early XX century but I can't find any records". People struggle for years and most eventually fail to find anything and give up. The key to success is it just doesn't work this way. It's not hard to find records you need. Genealogy is not rocket science. But you need to understand fundamental principles of how it all really works. And then you might find much more than you expected.

Our meetings are open to paid members only.  Please visit our website for membership and future meeting information.  We have a great Getting Started in Jewish Genealogy guide (Under our publications tab).  Full membership is required for full access to our site. We are a friendly group that welcomes questions on our active Facebook page. Check us out.

Marilyn Mazer Golden
Membership VP
membership@...
www.jgasgp.org




Re: boats Constanta (Romania) - Jaffa (Palestine) #romania

Sherri Bobish
 

Isak,

A Google search found that a publication called
"The Palestine Bulletin"
(Available online: 12 January 1925 - 30 December 1932)
had listings of ships.  It is searchable online, and browseable, at:
https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/plb

It appears that Constanta is also referred to as Constanza (as it was known in Italian.)

There are listings of movements of ships, arrival of immigrants, and advertisements that show ships and the ports they visit.

Hope this helps,

Sherri Bobish


Re: Hebrew Cemetery, Asbury Park NJ #usa

jef barnett
 

Thank you to those members responding with the history of the local synagogues of Asbury Park and Bradley Beach, and their connections with the local cemeteries. My Grossman ( and Gassman) family from Asbury Park are buried in Chesed Shel Emes Cemetery, which we try to visit annually. The Synagogue connections are helpful knowledge.
Jef Barnett


Skerniewitz-Rawa association #unitedkingdom #poland #general

J Antrich
 

My grandparents Shloime and Ruchl Lemel came to the West End of London at the beginning of the 20th century from the Skerniewitz-Rawa area of Poland. They belonged to some kind of friendship or support association connected with these towns, on one occasion (late 1950s?) receiving an award for their services (a VHF radio). Does anyone have any information about this association, and has it left any records?
Thanks in anticipation.
Jeremy Antrich (Surbiton, England)


Viewmate Translation Request -- Romanian #romania #records #translation

krausj2@...
 

I request a translation of the Yiddish text on this vital record. It is on ViewMate at the following address

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=93597

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Thank you so much; I appreciate all of you who take the time to help those of us who cannot read these languages.

Stay safe,

-- Joe Kraus



--
Joe Kraus
krausj2@...


Re: Seeking Assistant to Determine if a Rabbi Moses Eichenstein of Schodnica (late 19th Century) is A Member of Galician Rabbinic Dynasties #rabbinic #ukraine #galicia

indy.crowley@...
 

Most excellent information and thank you.  I will seek to refine the connections.  There is a very large family tree I've accessed through MyHeritage I've sought to use as a research source.  This information varies significantly.  
--
Indy Crowley
Redmond, Washington USA
indy.crowley@...
Gottlieb
Eichenstein
Eisenstein
Allit
Olisky


Re: Hebrew Cemetery, Asbury Park NJ #usa

pmayerowitz@...
 

Can you publish the obituary that you have or at least the names of other relatives mentioned. They may still be living in this area and I could query a Facebook page for Ocean Township and the Nextdoor page for Eatontown to Wall that I am a member of to see if any names ring any bells.

Paul Mayerowitz
Ocean, NJ


boats Constanta (Romania) - Jaffa (Palestine) #romania

Isak Gath
 

I am looking for the names of the boats that sailed regularly from the port of Constanta (Romania) to Jaffa (mandatory Palestine) during the period 1931-1932. Any information would be gratefully accepted.

Prof. Isak Gath
Haifa, Israel


Re: Tracing Family Members Conscripted into the Russian Imperial Army - Possible? #russia #records

elena-boldyreva@...
 

Hello David,
Russian State War Historical Archive is offering genealogical and biographical research: 
http://xn--80adcv1b.xn--p1ai/polzovatelyam/genealogicheskie-i-biograficheskie-issledovaniya.shtml
They mention that the lists are not complete.
For the period from the XVIII century to 1917, they ask to proved full name, rank, year of service, location, and regimen or military unit.
Prices are here (you can use Google translate): http://xn--80adcv1b.xn--p1ai/polzovatelyam/preiskurant-platnykh-rabot-i-uslug.shtml
Their contact email: 
info@...

I have also read that there are Russia Military Records on FamilySearch, but I could not find this section.

Regards,
Elena Boldyreva,
Toronto, Canada
Researching: Meer Rogovin from Volozhin, Minsk; Sarah Paley from Shatsk. 


Re: What is this: Signed Document with Names in Yiddish (Hebrew Characters) in1816 Russian Revision List #records #russia #translation

limone_il@...
 

Hello David,
This is a power of attorney issued by the Jewish cahal to some members of the kagal for submission to the Minsk State Chamber (Kazjonnaya palata) in connection with the new russian census. If I understand correctly, the Cahal of the city of Nesvizh authorizes three members of the cahal to conduct a new russian census.

Ilya Limone


Russian translation #translation

Laufer, Shmuel
 

A need Russian translation for 5 certificates of families .

I don't need word-for-word but details such as names, dates, locations, occupations, and so on are very helpful.

 

A marriage certificate of Nosen Gersz Blenkitny and Baila Tova Nowogrod from Wyskow for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM93624

 

 A death certificate of Faiga Wiatrak from Przasnysz for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

 https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM93625

 

A birth certificate of Ester Malka Majufes  from Przasnysz for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address .... 

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM93626

 

 A birth certificate of Michla Warszawski  from Sarnaki for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ....

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM93628

 

A death certificate of Ruchla Rybak from Przasnysz for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ....

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM93629

  Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

 Thanks in advance

  

Shmuel Laufer

Rehovot -Israel

 Research: Laufer (Przasnysz, Poland); Domb (Pultusk, Poland); Bruckman (Sarnaki, Poland); Zelazo (Sarnaki, Poland); Preschel (Berhomet, Chernivets'ka, Ukraine), Leder (Berhomet, Chernivets'ka, Ukraine); Schnap (Berhomet, Chernivets'ka, Ukraine); Mitelman (Chelm, Poland); Tenerman (Dubienka, Poland)


Re: Hebrew Cemetery, Asbury Park NJ #usa

pmayerowitz@...
 

Meyer is not buried at either the Agudath Achim or Chesed Shel Emes Cemetery.  Both cemeteries are near me and I walked both of them.  The Burial Secretary at Agudath also has no record of him being buried there.  The Agudath Cemetery was first established in the 1950's. The Chesed Shel Emes is much older but he is not buried there either.  Congregation Sons of Israel, formerly of Asbury Park and now Ocean, is much older but to the best of my knowledge most of the members of this synagogue formed the core of the chartering members of the Chesed Shel Emes. I was a member of this synagogue and there was never a mention of a synagogue cemetery other than the Chesed Shel Emes..  My father was secretary of the Chevra for over forty years.  Temple Beth El, formerly of Asbury Park, now Ocean, has a cemetery in Farmingdale which predates the 1930's also.  The synagogue merged with Temple Beth Torah and is now called Torat El on Monmouth Road. You might call them to see if their burial records go that far back.  Congregation Brothers of Israel is in Long Branch but I doubt anyone from Bradley Beach would have been buried in their cemetery.

Bodine Funeral Home was in Asbury Park.  It was bought out by Bloomfield Copper Chapels in Ocean.  It also was bought out by a large funeral chain but still operates under the name of Bloomfield-Cooper.  They did not have any details on a Hebrew Cemetery as per the press obit.

Paul Mayerowitz
Ocean, New Jersey


Jewish Genealogical Society New York May 23 Meeting #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Phyllis Rosner
 

Jewish Genealogical Society NY Meeting
Sunday May 23, 2020 at 2 p.m. EDT
Zoom Webinar

Researching US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Records

Speaker: Marian Smith

Marian Smith will present an overview of three historical eras (1820-Present) of US immigration and naturalization records, illustrated with documents of Jewish immigrants. Using a timeline tool (included in the handout), she will demonstrate how plotting an immigrant’s life events can pinpoint which records may exist for that particular immigrant and where these records can be found. A question and answer session will follow the presentation.    

Marian Smith retired in 2018 after thirty years as a historian for the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), later US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). She now speaks to groups on US immigration and nationality records and leads the I&N Records fortnightly study group.


All are welcome; attendance is free, but registration is required:

Click here to register at our website

Submitted by:
Phyllis Rosner jgsny.org
JGSNY VP Communications
New York, NY

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