STERN family of Malsch, Landkreis Karlsruhe #germany

Ralph Baer

Is anyone researching or have information about the STERN family of Malsch in the present-day Landkreis (County of) Karlsruhe, Baden-Württemberg, Germany? 
I recently found out that the STERN name adopter Joseph Isaak (about 1751 – 19 February 1816 Malsch) was a stepbrother of Marx Nathan, my ancestor who, along with his brother Abraham Nathan, adopted the family name BÄR (BAER) in 1809 in Malsch. It would not surprise me if Joseph was also their first cousin, perhaps a son of their maternal uncle Isaac Abraham who apparently disappeared from Malsch records after being denied Schutz (rights of residence, marry, etc.) in 1745.
A member if the STERN family of Malsch was the historian Selma STERN-TÄUBLER who was born in Kippenheim.
Ralph N. Baer        RalphNBaer@...       Washington, DC

Re: Hebrew Cemetery, Asbury Park NJ #usa

Laurie Sosna

Hi everyone,

First and always, I thank you all for your help. You're so generous with your time and I am so grateful.

Getting a death certificate would be the best way to track him, but he died in 1933. Elena's flowchart (an excellent resource!) stops at 1930.

The death notice doesn't provide many details: Asbury Park Press, April 27 1933:
"Meyer Levitz, 61, a shoemaker at 807 1/2 Main street, Bradley Beach, died last night. He is survived by his widow, four sons and a daughter. Funeral services are being held this afternoon at 3 o'clock at the late home. Interment will be made in the Hebrew cemetery by Funeral Director Harry J. Bodine."
His widow was his second wife, Ida. She lived in Asbury Park until her death in 1945.
His first wife, Lena, divorced him in 1917.
He married Ida in Brooklyn in 1919.
He and Ida moved to Asbury Park in 1920, he's in the city directories.
None of his children lived in NJ. His eldest son Nathan Levitz, lived in Brooklyn until about 1945 and may have been in contact with Meyer, I can't verify that.
By 1922, Lena and his other children, Louis, Sam, Fannie and Abraham lived in California.

I emailed the Ely Funeral Home yesterday, I received a reply this morning, they did not purchase Bodine.
Bloomfield Cooper is now owned by Dignity Memorials, a subsidiary of Service Corporation International (SCI), the largest funeral provider in the U.S.
They are not known for keeping records that far back.
SCI also owns the Neptune Society and the Trident Society.
I'm going to contact the other congregations, maybe they can help. Thank you for sharing those leads.

We'll see where it takes me.

Laurie Sosna
San Francisco, CA

Family from Kalwarija #poland

neville silverston

My paternal grandfather, Meir Neitan Silverstone (?Zylberstein) married Clara Rogovski in Kalwarija (? Poland or Lithuania) on 15th October, 1881. Their first child, my Aunt Jessie, was born at 5 West Place, Edinburgh, Scotland on 5th March, 1883.  They moved to Manchester, Lancashire, and had nine further children. My father was the eighth.  The 1891 Census shows that his brother, Isaac, and fiancee, Clara Rosenfeld, were living with them and they married in September, 1891.

From then on I have the full history of both families but I have not been able to find any records of the three families in Kalwarija, Lithuania. Meir and Isaac's, father, Jacob, was described as a Rabbi on Isaac's Marriage Certificate.

I assume that Meir and Clara crossed the North Sea and arrived in the Port of Leith and that Clara was pregnant at the time so settled in Edinburgh to have the baby.  I have always assumed that they came from Lithuania as my Mother's brother whose family came from Latvia, told me shortly before he passed, that they almost went into mourning when my mother declared that she was about to marry a Litvak!

Is anyone reading these abbreviated details able to fill in some of the  blanks on the origins of my grandfather and great uncle and their wives?  I would be very grateful.

Neville Silverston
Cambridge. UK
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Re: does anyone know this Yiddish expression? #yiddish


From: Rafael Manory, PhD

Thanks Yitschok Margaretn for the detailed explanation. I was going to write that it is a Hebrew proverb, not an Yiddish one, and I also was aware of its  Talmudic origin. I am not aware of an English equivalent other than the direct translation. In Israel the expression is commonly used and  is traced to Pirkei Avot, as indicated.

Rafael Manory, PhD

Re: requests for translations #translation


I have doing such transllations for years and never asked for payment, even though I am now a professional editor and translator.

Best regards

Rafael Manory, PhD

Re: Hebrew Cemetery, Asbury Park NJ #usa

Elana Broch <elanabroch@...>

I'd suggest contacting Regina Fitzpatrick  We have been working on a presentation on finding your dead relatives in NJ. I can send you her handy dandy cheat sheet, but I wasn't sure I could post an image on this website.   I ordered a death record months ago, but the archives are very much shut down.  

Elana Broch
Lawrenceville, NJ

In the Danzig addresses of the PERLBACH family there is Zugangsingel 5 which may have been a house of ill repute, was it and did the street name later on become Jopengasse? #gdansk


Among the various addresses for Joseph Levin PERLBACH I see Judengasse as the first one and later on different numbers at Jopengasse which may have been a matter of renumbering or not. Jopengasse Number 54 was acquired from the Schopenhauer family, they seemed far better premises than those of the one in the photo of Jopengasse 55 (ul. Piwna) which I found in an other file.
Can someone enlighten me?
Ron Peeters (NL)

Old Disease Names Frequently Found on Death Certificates: What Would They be Called Today? #names #general

Phil Goldfarb

The following came from Dick Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter today and might be useful to JewishGen Discussion Group members. As a 4th generation pharmacist and researcher for 35+ years, I did not know many of these!

Old Disease Names Frequently Found on Death Certificates: What Would They be Called Today?
  If you find a death certificate for great-great-grandma and it lists the cause of death as "Hectical Complaint," you probably will ask, "What's that?" Luckily, there is a one-page "dictionary" on USGenNet that can be a very useful tool for any genealogist who is reading old documents. It shows old medical terminology and then shows the modern-day name for each. You can find Old Disease Names Frequently found on Death Certificates at

Phil Goldfarb
President, JGS of Tulsa

Hebrew translation volunteer for cemetery project #usa #translation

A. E. Jordan

I have photographed a few cemetery plots which are entirely in Hebrew. Unfortunately it is beyond my time and Hebrew skills to translate the entire plot so what I was hoping is that someone might work with me so that the plot could be translated and put into a database. Ultimately it can get into the burial database so people can find the stones.
The first plot I have is 124 photos although some might be duplicates, unreadable, etc. I actually have a few such plots sitting on my computer waiting for attention beyond this one too.
What I am thinking is that I can upload the raw photos to someone along with the data from the cemetery either in a Word or spreadsheet document. Then it requires going through each photo and translating it and matching it to the listing and entering the Hebrew translated data to form the database. So you need Hebrew skills and some computer skills and available time. I appreciate everyone's enthusiasm to help but this requires good Hebrew skills as it is not really something to be practice on.
If anyone is interested email me off the list at aejordan at aol dot com and we can discuss what is involved.
Thank you.
Allan Jordan
New York

Re: What would be the correct Bar Mitzvah date in 1961 #general

David Ziants

A lot of details have been given on this thread concerning the orthodox and traditional way of doing things, and I want to add some more insights regarding this.

A) As someone correctly pointed out, also within orthodox Judaism, the concept of having a big party and the bar mitzva boy reading from the Torah and/or being called up for maphtir (i.e saying the haphtara) is relatively recent - maybe a few hundred years. Also among some  Eastern Sephardi communities (Aidot HaMizrach), a child from the age of nine or ten is already allowed to be called up for maphtir and say the haphtara, so this would not be a great deal with respect to Bar Mitzva which is age of 13, and the honors for a bar-mitzva boy in these communities is more towards reading from the Torah or leading the prayers.  

B) With regards to the party, then among the very orthodox and now-a-days this is becoming more main-stream, it has become common place to make the main party on the Hebrew birthday date itself. Then the first call up, might be the next Monday or Thursday depending on the day of the week (or Rosh Hodesh) as has already been mentioned - and with this maybe a small celebration.

C) During the last Corona year with the uncertainties involved, I have seen a few bar-mitzva boys from "Rabbinical" families, make do with a simple call up on Shabbat so they should not spend hours learning to read the parsha from the Torah only to find the Health regulations, when the day arrives, not allowing to have a minyan (quorum of ten men).

D) On a personal note - I was brought up in a household that kind of defined itself as "semi-traditional". So, the issues that bothered my parents, in the early 1970s in London,UK,  were:-

1) I was born on what is last day of Pesach in the diaspora. The issue was that the Rabbi's son was born a day or so after me, and my parent's realized that I would be completely out shadowed if I was called up on the next Shabbat.

2) It was expected that the main celebration would be on the Sunday following the Shabbat that I was being called up, since there were people coming from out of town and would be staying a few nights in London.

3) In England, it is the primary custom to keep the semi-mourning period of the Omer starting from the first day of Iyar, with a break on the semi-festival of lag ba'omer (33rd day of the Counting of the Omer). This would mean, that the main celebration (which to a certain extent had to conform to the religious issues) could not take place on this delayed date, as they wanted a band because that is what "everyone else" does. 

4) So in the end, I was called up on the Shabbat preceding lag ba'omer and the main party was on lag ba'omer which was a Sunday that year.

Although, from my parents' point of view they wanted to give as much honor to the situation as they could, if I was in charge as a parent as I am now, I would have made the flow a whole lot simpler, regardless of with whom a bar-mitzva shabbat might be shared or how to schedule the party. I was at a bar-mitzva party once, that was during the mourning period of the Omer, and instead of a band, there were "Swingle Singers" who enhanced the occasion.
David Ziants

Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel

JGASGP Meeting May 23rd #announcements #records #ukraine

Marilyn Golden

The Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society is inviting you to our next meeting on:
Date:  May 23, 2021
  1:00 PM EDT check in, chat, and schmooze

           Official program starts promptly at 1:30

Guest Speaker: Alex Krakovsky: Referred to by FamilySearch as “one of the most influential figures in modern Jewish genealogy”

Alex Krakovsky, a Jewish Ukrainian, is using freedom of information laws and the court system in Ukraine to force archives to allow him to scan their records and post them on a public website. 


Alex was born in Kyiv in 1982 and graduated Kyiv Polytechnic Institute in 2005. He started his own genealogy with a trip in 2011. Since then, he became involved in various Ukrainian archive projects. Most notable is Jewish towns (use Google’s Chrome browser and it’s translate function to view in English) with the goal to digitize and publish online all of the Jewish records in Ukraine. Alex spent years in Ukrainian archives finding various unknown Jewish lists and putting them online. He won many lawsuits with Ukrainian archives to make records open and available to everyone.


Topic: Tracing Jewish Ancestors from Ukraine: Why Many Researchers Fail and How to Succeed.
The Internet is full of typical questions like "my Rabinovich ancestors came to the US from Berdychiv in the early XX century but I can't find any records". People struggle for years and most eventually fail to find anything and give up. The key to success is it just doesn't work this way. It's not hard to find records you need. Genealogy is not rocket science. But you need to understand fundamental principles of how it all really works. And then you might find much more than you expected.

Our meetings are open to paid members only.  Please visit our website for membership and future meeting information.  We have a great Getting Started in Jewish Genealogy guide (Under our publications tab).  Full membership is required for full access to our site. We are a friendly group that welcomes questions on our active Facebook page. Check us out.

Marilyn Mazer Golden
Membership VP

Re: boats Constanta (Romania) - Jaffa (Palestine) #romania

Sherri Bobish


A Google search found that a publication called
"The Palestine Bulletin"
(Available online: 12 January 1925 - 30 December 1932)
had listings of ships.  It is searchable online, and browseable, at:

It appears that Constanta is also referred to as Constanza (as it was known in Italian.)

There are listings of movements of ships, arrival of immigrants, and advertisements that show ships and the ports they visit.

Hope this helps,

Sherri Bobish

Re: Hebrew Cemetery, Asbury Park NJ #usa

jef barnett

Thank you to those members responding with the history of the local synagogues of Asbury Park and Bradley Beach, and their connections with the local cemeteries. My Grossman ( and Gassman) family from Asbury Park are buried in Chesed Shel Emes Cemetery, which we try to visit annually. The Synagogue connections are helpful knowledge.
Jef Barnett

Skerniewitz-Rawa association #unitedkingdom #poland #general

J Antrich

My grandparents Shloime and Ruchl Lemel came to the West End of London at the beginning of the 20th century from the Skerniewitz-Rawa area of Poland. They belonged to some kind of friendship or support association connected with these towns, on one occasion (late 1950s?) receiving an award for their services (a VHF radio). Does anyone have any information about this association, and has it left any records?
Thanks in anticipation.
Jeremy Antrich (Surbiton, England)

Viewmate Translation Request -- Romanian #romania #records #translation


I request a translation of the Yiddish text on this vital record. It is on ViewMate at the following address

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Thank you so much; I appreciate all of you who take the time to help those of us who cannot read these languages.

Stay safe,

-- Joe Kraus

Joe Kraus

Re: Seeking Assistant to Determine if a Rabbi Moses Eichenstein of Schodnica (late 19th Century) is A Member of Galician Rabbinic Dynasties #rabbinic #ukraine #galicia


Most excellent information and thank you.  I will seek to refine the connections.  There is a very large family tree I've accessed through MyHeritage I've sought to use as a research source.  This information varies significantly.  
Indy Crowley
Redmond, Washington USA

Re: Hebrew Cemetery, Asbury Park NJ #usa


Can you publish the obituary that you have or at least the names of other relatives mentioned. They may still be living in this area and I could query a Facebook page for Ocean Township and the Nextdoor page for Eatontown to Wall that I am a member of to see if any names ring any bells.

Paul Mayerowitz
Ocean, NJ

boats Constanta (Romania) - Jaffa (Palestine) #romania

Isak Gath

I am looking for the names of the boats that sailed regularly from the port of Constanta (Romania) to Jaffa (mandatory Palestine) during the period 1931-1932. Any information would be gratefully accepted.

Prof. Isak Gath
Haifa, Israel

Re: Tracing Family Members Conscripted into the Russian Imperial Army - Possible? #russia #records


Hello David,
Russian State War Historical Archive is offering genealogical and biographical research: 
They mention that the lists are not complete.
For the period from the XVIII century to 1917, they ask to proved full name, rank, year of service, location, and regimen or military unit.
Prices are here (you can use Google translate): http://xn--80adcv1b.xn--p1ai/polzovatelyam/preiskurant-platnykh-rabot-i-uslug.shtml
Their contact email: 

I have also read that there are Russia Military Records on FamilySearch, but I could not find this section.

Elena Boldyreva,
Toronto, Canada
Researching: Meer Rogovin from Volozhin, Minsk; Sarah Paley from Shatsk. 

Re: What is this: Signed Document with Names in Yiddish (Hebrew Characters) in1816 Russian Revision List #records #russia #translation


Hello David,
This is a power of attorney issued by the Jewish cahal to some members of the kagal for submission to the Minsk State Chamber (Kazjonnaya palata) in connection with the new russian census. If I understand correctly, the Cahal of the city of Nesvizh authorizes three members of the cahal to conduct a new russian census.

Ilya Limone

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